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Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 3/12/16

LSU needed a win today to keep any realistic hope of making the NCAA Tournament alive. Instead, the team suffered a 33-point loss to Texas A&M in a game that wasn’t competitive beyond the first few minutes. Ben Simmons had a double-double, accumulating 10 points and 12 rebounds, but he didn’t play with a fire that many players display while leading a team in a must-win game.

His inability to give the Tigers a shot at the Final Four, coupled with his on court demeanor, has raised questions about his ability to be a franchise player in the NBA. That leads up to tonight’s shootaround: If you were the GM of the team that wins the 2016 lottery, would you consider passing on Simmons? 

The LSU product was considered a lock for the No. 1 overall pick entering the season, but one GM told Chad Ford of that his play this year has caused some concerns.

“As the season has gone on, I think he hasn’t improved and other guys have,” the anonymous GM said to Ford.  “When guys don’t improve, I get a little nervous. I thought he’d get more comfortable with his jumper. He’d start molding this team into a cohesive unit. It’s gone the opposite direction. I still love him as a prospect, but I’ve got a lot more question marks.”

Brandon Ingram may be the only threat to take over the No. 1 spot and he will have an opportunity that Simmons does not: a chance to shine in the NCAA Tournament.

Let’s be clear. Simmons is not the reason that LSU will likely be headed to the NIT. His play this season is the only reason the team has double-digit wins, as the 2015/16 Tigers lack cohesiveness and top-level talent beyond the Australian native. While Simmons wasn’t the model of consistency, he displayed flashes of brilliance this season and showcased versatility that will be valuable in an ever-changing NBA. Is that enough to justify taking him with the No.1 overall pick regardless of how other prospects finish their seasons? Let’s us know in the comments section below. We look forward to what you have to say!

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19 thoughts on “Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 3/12/16

  1. Andrew C.

    Depends on the state of my team. If I’ve got absolutely no pieces to work with and no prominent ball-dominant players, I take him no question. However, if I already have some type of potential star power on the roster where those players need the ball to be their best, I would strongly consider Ingram over Simmons. Ingram’s shooting ability is a much better complementary skill to have and he still has the potential to be a great player. The point is that Simmons is a player you have to fully commit to building around, whereas Ingram can be inserted into a pre-existing lineup and be an important component, but not necessarily the focus, of the team.

    • Andrew C.

      If Philadelphia wins the lottery, I would definitely consider Ingram because of the team’s desperate need for spacing and Simmons’ similarity to Saric. They should only take Simmons if they can trade Saric and one of their bigs for a much needed backcourt or wings that can space the floor.

      • Chris Crouse

        Very Interesting. I would think the Sixers would be more likely to take Simmons since they don’t really have expectations to become a playoff team just yet. They are still in talent acquisition mode and they can wait to actually have the pieces fit. They could certainly trade away someone in their frontcourt if they win the lottery.

        What if the Lakers win the lottery, who is a better running mate for Russell?

        • Andrew C.

          Honestly I can see the Lakers taking either Simmons or Ingram. If I were them, I’d probably take Simmons because the setting is perfect for the immense star power that he possesses (the next Magic Johnson?). Only drawback to that is taking the ball away from Russell more often, who I think will be Harden-esque in terms of his on-ball play at some point. Then again, Russell at least has the skill set to be an extremely good off-ball threat thanks to his shooting and off-ball movement. As for Randle, maybe he can become a center if his interior defense improves. If that’s the case, a lineup of Russell, Clarkson (hopefully), a sniper, Simmons, and Randle would be a beastly lineup that should look to utilize the transition game at its fullest.

        • Gucci7383

          Russell needs the ball in his hands justben does so i would take ingram over him.
          By the way brandon ingram will become the better overall player imho

  2. Ayy-Aron

    I think the lakers, if able to, should draft Simmons and try to trade Randle to the 6ers for one of their centers.

    It works out for both teams, both get a starting center and forward.

    • Chris Crouse

      I’m not sure Randle is a fit for Philadelphia. The two big man with no range approach doesn’t appear to be a sound strategy going forward. I agree with drafting Simmons if I am running the Lakers though.

    • Andrew C.

      Maybe trade Randle to one of the following teams if that’s the case?:
      — Denver for Nurkic, Lauvergne and more
      — Knicks for Lopez and more (which they don’t have much of lol)
      — Chicago for Gibson, Snell, and more

      • Chris Crouse

        I can’t see Randle going to NY for Lopez. If Howard wants to go to the Knicks, Lopez may be available on the cheap.

        I’m a big fan of Nurkic. He’s not leaving Denver unless its for a star.

        I like the Bulls as the best destination for Randle out of these. Gibson and first-rounder for Julius sounds about right. (That is because the Lakers believe they are contenders and will likely look to add veterans again).

        • Cipher

          Are you living in your own dream? Nurkic only for a star? He is not even playing much anymore with DNP-CD. If they can get Randle for Nurkic it will almost be a jackpot. They have Jokic at the C already and getting Randle set them up at the PF too.

  3. aarongill

    It’s a concern he can’t make a jumper and doesn’t play with passion all the time. But Ingram is frail and inconsistent and hasn’t impressed me much. Now there’s dragan bender who has me very intrigued. 7’1. Can shoot, pass, rebound, block shots, defends the pick and roll. He does everything and some scouts say his skill is better than porzingas. He would be a perfect fit next to Randle assuming he gains strength as he weighs only 216.

    If Simmons comes to la, Randle will need to be trade, options for him would include Noel, caullie-stein, dieng maybe?

    I’m not sold on this draft class

  4. Just take Simmons. Let’s not over think things.

  5. If I am Philly and win the Lottery I take Simmons. Then I see if there are any takers for Okafor or Noel for a top 5 pick in the draft. Preferably I trade Okafor to grab Brown or Murray. I think Boston could be a possible trade partner as they own the Nets pick as long as that pick is in the 3-5 range. I’m not worried about Saric and Simmons having the same skill set because Simmons is better and Saric can come off the bench to start his career.

    • In case people are wondering about the part: “I think Boston could be a possible trade partner as they own the Nets pick as long as that pick is in the 3-5 range.” If Boston gets the 2nd pick, they are taking Ingram.

    • Ayy-Aron

      Okay to add what a twist, if philly does take Simmons, do the lakers trade their pick for Okafor?

      • Ayy-Aron

        Or remove the top 3 protection for Okafor.

        • aarongill

          Nope lakers won’t do it, Randle and okafor would be horrible defensively and have bad spacing. Ingram or bender would be the choice.

  6. I’m just hoping the Lakers fall to #4 in the draft… Sixers could get #1 and #4, they can take Simmons, and then Dunn/Murray. That would be great, having too many good young players is a problem any coach / gm would love to have. They can then cut the scrubs they have and bring in some solid vets.

    • Philly is sitting pretty good imo. They have the best chance to grab Simmons and have a chance at the Lakers pick at 4 or 5 to get a PG. They also have Noel or Okafor to potentially trade into a top 3-5 pick. Not to mention they have two late 1st round picks this year to sweeten a potential deal. Will 2016 be the year they finally hit gold?

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