Bulls Rumors: Butler, Turner, Zipser

When Kris Dunn got past the Celtics and landed with the Timberwolves at No. 5 in Thursday night’s draft, Minnesota and Chicago engaged in trade talks involving Dunn and Jimmy Butler, per several reports. While it seemed at times like those talks were gaining momentum, the two sides ultimately didn’t make a deal, and ESPN’s Marc Stein writes today that negotiations “fizzled” out, despite the Wolves’ aggressiveness.

As Stein writes, the Bulls are big fans of Dunn, prompting the Wolves to push hard to see if the two sides could reach an agreement involving the Providence point guard. However, Chicago decided not to trade its best player just a day after moving former MVP Derrick Rose, and GM Gar Forman downplayed the discussions late last night.

According to K.C. Johnson of The Chicago Tribune (via Twitter), the Wolves offered Dunn and Ricky Rubio for Butler. If Minnesota wasn’t willing to sweeten the offer any more than that, perhaps by adding Zach LaVine or another piece, it’s no surprise the Bulls weren’t convinced to move their All-Star forward.

Here’s more out of Chicago:

  • While the Celtics would like to keep Evan Turner, and the Knicks are also expected to have interest in the free-agent-to-be, Sean Deveney of The Sporting News adds another team to the list of potential suitors for Turner, writing that the Bulls are eyeing the Chicago native.
  • Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com reported last night that 48th overall pick Paul Zipser is expected to join the Bulls for the 2016/17 season, and today Givony tweets that Zipser’s buyout is worth just $600K. The small forward has one year remaining on his contract in Germany, but Chicago shouldn’t have any issues bringing him stateside, says Givony.
  • Asked about free agency, Forman indicated that the team’s sale pitch to potential targets this summer will involve selling the city of Chicago, per Nick Friedell of ESPN.com. As Friedell points out, the city is always a selling point, but it will be even more important this offseason, with Rose no longer a Bull and Joakim Noah and Pau Gasol potentially leaving as well — there won’t be as much veteran talent on the roster that appeals to prospective signees.

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Ravens_Last_Place
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Ravens_Last_Place
3 months 4 days ago

I think everyone is unrealistic. Butler is not an elite superstar. He’s just not. But he’s a very good, young player and may develop into that someday. The Bulls are overvaluing him so much. It’s absolutely crazy.

If you want a superstar, draft and develop him. Trading for one is too costly to your franchise and signing one as a FA is a crapshoot.

sportingdissent
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3 months 4 days ago

See, that’s where you’re wrong. The advanced stats put him in the elite superstar category. He’s not flashy, but he does everything really well to elite.

Look at his advanced statistics without Rose on the court. Other than Lebron, Durant, and Curry, nobody is better than Jimmy Butler. He’s in elite company, and I’d expect going forward he’ll start to get the respect he deserves.

ChiSoxCity
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ChiSoxCity
3 months 4 days ago

Butler is worth more than a 5th pick and Ricky Rubio. You’re the one that’s crazy if you believe otherwise.

David
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David
3 months 4 days ago

I keep hearing T-Wolves “aggressively” tried to trade for Butler. That’s ludicrous! Not that they want him but to the extent they were willing to pay to get him. Rubio, Lavine, and combo(2 of these 3) Dieng, Muhammad or jones #2 and next years #1 (and that’s only mildly “aggressive”) would have satisfied this longtime bulls fan!!!

ChiSoxCity
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ChiSoxCity
3 months 4 days ago

The Bulls wanted this year’s pick to draft Dunn. All the Wolves had to agree to is something like Lavine, Dieng, 5th pick and maybe cash considerations to balance the contracts.

chris Bradley
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chris Bradley
3 months 4 days ago

maybe they will at a later time

Thronson5
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Thronson5
3 months 4 days ago

Couldn’t agree more. He isn’t an elite player. He is good. I heard all these rumors the Lakers would try to trade all these players for Butler and I about lost it. He isn’t worth all these players. He’s good but not great and he’s he can be one day but he isn’t right now. Why tear apart your team for one player.

chris Bradley
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chris Bradley
3 months 4 days ago

Zipser sucks hes 67 overall on NBA 2k16 on the euro league team he is on

slapnuts
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slapnuts
3 months 4 days ago

Best. Comment. EVER

formerlyz
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formerlyz
3 months 4 days ago

B/c I’m J E double F J A double R, E, double T…the chosen one. Got that, slap nuts (lol had to have some fun with the name. Hope it was referring to what I thought lol)

Strauss
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Strauss
3 months 4 days ago

Welcome to the wonderful front office of the Bulls. Too bad Reinsdorfs not around to clean house.

formerlyz
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formerlyz
3 months 4 days ago

Only way Minnesota even had a chance for Butler without Wiggins would be something like Dunn, Lavine, Muhammed, and a future first rounder, and that’s probably light. You also still need to match salaries. That would be something that would allow Chicago to add young depth to what they already have for a quick rebuild. Still, I think they’re probably better off keeping Butler and retooling. I never expected Butler to be traded

Chris815
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Chris815
3 months 4 days ago
Ha I have another trade that mite work. I just did number and every team could afford it and still have lots of money under cap. I know you all pan it again ,but it does work . If you all take mind out of your fandom and look at it what it could do for each team . So here it is . It’s a 6 team deal( yes know there never been 6 team deal )but it works . The trade involves Bulls , wolves, Kings, 76,s bucks, and the Wizards Here how it breaks down Wolves get… Read more »
chiefivey
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chiefivey
3 months 4 days ago

the bulls get?…

formerlyz
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formerlyz
3 months 4 days ago

Nooooo don’t feed it lol…I’m already assuming he’ll be planning on giving the wizards Demarcus cousins, giannis, middleton, mirotic, Ben simmons, covington, Noel, and draft picks….rofl

stangs30
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stangs30
3 months 4 days ago

The Wizards throw away picks for nothing in return?

Eric1966
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Eric1966
3 months 4 days ago

Bulls get garbage in this deal!

Nate
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Nate
3 months 4 days ago

This is absolute nonsense

Ron
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Ron
3 months 4 days ago

You have way to much time on your hands!

Chris815
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Chris815
3 months 4 days ago

No sorry forgot to put wizards part of deal
Wizards get
Demarcus cousins 15 million
Seth curry 3 million
And draft right to Demarcus cousin

Chris815
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Chris815
3 months 4 days ago

And also wizards would get wolves lottery 2017 1 round pick or 2018 top 16 protected

cjh815
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cjh815
3 months 4 days ago
Here is the trade again I missed up putting on here earlier It 6 team deal between Bulls, wolves , 76’s- bucks, Kings, and wizards Wolves get Jimmy butler- $17,552,209 Drew Gooden – 3,547,750 team option Which totals at 21,009,709 Kings get Greg Monroe – $ 17,145,853 Bobby Portis- $ 1,404,600 Hollis Thompson -$ 1,015,618 (rf) Miles plumlee – $3,113,316 Wizards 2017 and 20 first round picks and wizards 2019 2 rd pick Which totals to- $22,699,381 76ers get Ricky Rubio – $13,400,000 Markieff morris – $7,400,000 Jerrell Eddie -$ 980,000 Wizards 2018 1 round pick Which totals $21,761,431 Bucks… Read more »
cubsfan2489
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cubsfan2489
3 months 4 days ago

GO AWAY

bigcubsfan
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bigcubsfan
3 months 4 days ago

No way there is going to be a six team trade. It would all be too complicated for the teams involved. Also, I want to see the Bulls jeep Jimmy Butler, and have his value build up before they consider trading him.

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