The NBA won’t reduce or rescind the Flagrant 2 foul assessed to Warriors forward/center Draymond Green in Game 1 of the team’s series vs. Memphis on Sunday, according to Shams Charania and Anthony Slater of The Athletic (Twitter link).
Green was called for the Flagrant 2 foul and ejected from the game late in the second quarter after grabbing and pulling the jersey of Grizzlies big man Brandon Clarke as Clarke attempted a layup (video link).
As we relayed earlier today, Green expressed optimism during an episode of his podcast on Sunday night that the league would review and adjust the foul, perhaps reducing it to a Flagrant 1. However, it appears that won’t happen.
Players are given two flagrant foul points for a Flagrant 2 foul and one for a Flagrant 1 during the postseason, with four total flagrant foul points resulting in an automatic one-game suspension. Green is now halfway to that automatic suspension and would be forced to miss a game if he’s called for another Flagrant 2 or two Flagrant 1 fouls during the remainder of the playoffs.
It’s the right call. The heavy hit with the right and then the pull down with the left. Anything Green says about holding him up is not true. It’s just an immediate remorse for what he did and regret. But that remorse came two seconds after pulling him down by the Jersey and what was done was already done.
Any Podcast explanation to the contrary was an attempt to reduce to a flagrant-1. Didn’t happen, time to move on, be careful from here on out and just play solid defense.
Warriors in 5
Re watch it dude. The face hit is so light of contact it would be insane to consider it a F1 even. The pull down legit looks like he tried to grab dudes side, got jersey instead, and held on to try and keep him from face planting.
This is no nut shot from DG. I thought that before the podcast too. As soon as I saw the play I thought it was exactly what he said it was. The “face shot” you couldnt even see without the one special angle, and if Clarke was affected by it then dude is 10 ply.
The contact with his right may not have been much but it was a heck of a wind-up. Even in slow-mo his arm is moving at an intense rate.
The view from behind shows light head contact and then the arms. But the side view from the sidelines looks like a whack across the face and I’m sure they’re going with that angle to assess the severity.
No doubt Clarke did a lot of acting on the play he twice flop in the game to get calls. Even Clarke admitted he is a flopper by saying he doesn’t flop.
You have a good point
Clarke was flopping
It didnt hit at all no matter the wind up. It literally looks like he wipes his hand on dudes face not hitting it.
That was a common foul in every other playoff game, period.
So when the last 2 minute review happen will they admit the out of bounds call play was a complete miss by 3 Refs of a obvious call or when Ja Mount palmed the ball?
I saw that too !! Was that not a travel? Didn’t he take a little hesitation, carry, two steps in there somewhere? I think they swallow their whistle just like they do on fouls to end the half or game.
To be fair… Steph may have gotten away with a little travel at the end too.
The big problem was how inconsistent the whistle was. They would give out soft little touch fouls and then allow some super hard contact.
What I want to know is why they arent assigning flagrants after the fact on the multiple shots to the head Poole took. If your going to police it than police it, because Poole has taken uncalled flagrants to the head a lot including 2 in that game…
I expect that Grizzly players will be taunting and pushing Green all around the court in game 2 to get a T on him. Would not doubt they do some cheap shots on Green.
T doesnt matter though you need 7 for a suspension. I dont think they want to try baiting him into a flagrant since the only way you can really do that is just start a fight with him…
Only need 4 in the playoffs so he has 2 already.
Its completely insane that the refs are calling anything in the playoffs – they usually never do anything and let the games play out for maximum game enjoyability – something Daryl Morey is thoroughly against.
2 Flagrant points. A T is different you need 16 for a 1 game suspension regular season and 7 in the playoffs where the count resets. Its 4 flagrant points for a 1 game suspension. Luckily Dray racks up Ts with a vengeance, but doesnt get flagrants that often.
Don’t forget that Gordon went after him to get a T on purpose. So I expect a Grizzly player to do the same thing. Kerr needs to come out before the game and ask the Refs to watch other players taunting Green and trying to get a T on him.
Draymond has always been that way. Everyone already knows.
His reputation follows him. I don’t think he is dirty player but he is definitely at times wreckless. Last night was wreckless.
No Draymond is a dirty player. There’s different levels of being a dirty player though. If Rodman, Grayson Allen and Lambier we’re the top tier with Bogut and Bruce Bowens being the 2nd of dirty players Draymond is in the 3rd tier. He’s not malicious he just gets caught up in the moment.
I mean, he did kick LeBron in the nuts that time.
C-daddy if you teabag someone, it’s going down. Well, unless you’re Tyronn Lue.
Not his only nut shot, but that was a younger Dray…
Draymond is an intense player and beyond that the leader of Golden State. He plays hard. Is Chris Paul a dirty player?
Yes unequivocally yes. CP is the worst of the worst. Dude plays dirty and gets away with it, grifts fouls and gets away with it, man f*** CP every day never buying that insurance from grifty McGee!
CP and Harden are both the absolute worst since always. I would love to have a video of some of the practices as they work on the foul grifting techniques. See Harden working on hooking arms while Paul practices his flops and rip throughs(which how is it still a foul the way he does it).
Steph Curry’s arms are scarred from CP3s nails and the corrupt refs literally never calling any foul on players beating the bejesus out of him.
Interesting. Are you gentlemen part of the crowd that thinks modern stars couldn’t be as good as they are now had they been playing in the 80s/90s?
As much as we love and respect Draymond, he does embarass himself and the team occasionally. He taunted defending MVP and waved him goodbye when Jokic was ejected. Green might not be a dirty player, but he does lack sportsmanship and class. We love it because he helps W’s win but how would we feel if it was done to our players? Morris and Gordon stood up to Green in Denver series, and frankly was afraid that someone might get hurt.
Ejecting a player for a move that wasn’t made to antagonize or seriously hurt someone is MUCH more embarrassing and dirty and lacking class. That was a common foul at best and F1 at worst.
Booting Draymond unfairly helps no one, it didn’t even help the Grizzlies last night. Just a pathetic scenario all-around, it couldn’t be clearer that the NBA refs have been anti-GSW ever since Steph started outshining Lebron.
Draymond loves to generate attention, but W’s can do without all that drama. Just play ball!
Draymond has not grown or learnt anything since 2016, this proves it. Wish he’d grow up already.
Completely missed everything on this broski. Draymond in the postgame conference said he learned a lot from guarding Jokic, how exceptional of a player he is and called him the MVP. So wrong on that point.
Wtf are you even talking about Morris and Gordon stood up. Gordon was being an idiot trying to taunt Draymond into baiting him into technical fouls. And he was successful b/c of Draymond’s reputation.
Get outta here with that bs
Yes, after Warriors won the series, Draymond told Jokic how he made him play better. It’s easy to be class after you win, and draymond is usually class after games. But he is not always class during games. It doesnt mean it’s bad if that’s what it takes for him to get psyched and win. It is what I see as a fan.
It wasn’t even a flagrant foul. It was a common foul. Playoffs reffing going back to catering to scammerball. Shameful.
If we were still in the 90s yes that was a common foul.
Players grab jerseys more theses days, so in the 90s, it would not have happened. Draymond took advantage of all the “compassionate” wrap-ups that has been going on in recent years to cover up for his own antics. Very cynical.
How is that any different from other intentional fouls to prevent an easy layup?
He hit him in the head and dragged him down.
Have you guys watched nba basketball this season? The contact to the face has been called flagrant 1 all year…routinely. The jersey pull is what made it flagrant 2. And while you may not think he got his money’s worth on it….it’s an easy call.
Agreed. It’s not what the rule was 20 years ago, or heck even 5 years ago. It’s what the rule is now. Contact to the head Fl 1. Pulling him to the ground well after he made the initial contact lead to FL 2. He WAS NOT trying to help catch him from falling.
For those talking about MEM not getting one for hitting Poole in the head on the 3, GSW didn’t get them when they hit Bane & Ja one 3 pt attempts either.
Also, IDK what the refs were looking at in the final seconds, but it was out on MEM and shouldn’t have been a jump ball. Ended up not affecting anything luckily. MEM made a good comeback attempt in the last 8 minutes or so (being down by double digits I believe), but didn’t deserve to win. Their lack of effort on the boards (even when GSW had multiple guys in foul trouble, w/o their best defender & rebounder) and all the wide open shots GSW got (they didn’t make as many as usual, otherwise it would’ve been a blow out). GSW not MIN. MEM has to play all 48 minutes, win on the 50/50 balls, do a better job on defense, and knock down wide open shots more often. I had MEM in 7, but if they keep playing like this it’ll be GSW in 4 or 5.
Its your opinion. Why didn’t he let go of the jersey if he wanted to hurt him? Wouldn’t he push him down instead of trying to trying to hold him so he wouldn’t hit his back on the ground? Clarke did do the flop at the end pretending he was more hurt than he was.
Cause Dray made sure the shot won’t be a continuation play if it went in … Dray better stfu once again, refs made it clear and simple: can’t go as hard as he wants, that play was dangerous and intentional… PS W played better in the second half without him so VOILÀ that ejection gave W extra fueled to win it all
We all knows most players that is only a Flagrant 1. Clarke flopping on the ground was unnecessary but Grizzlies know they must do all they can to win because warriors are better. The refs were terrible in that game so many home town calls it was not even hiding it. 2 minute report showed they missed 2 big calls. Green just needs to tone it down to the Refs because Grizzlies will go hunting for a T like Lebron did in the finals.
What if Clarks gets injured with this type of uncontrolled play or what if it was Dray/Ja/Klay who got hard fouled ? I agree Refs set a bad tone clearly in this game with BS calls (JJJ block or the Ja hardwood ass fall) but NBA wants a clean fight to prevent stars injuries, so the pressure is on them. Players like Dray are aware of it, he plays the hard way, he gets an ejection that’s part of the game, but going all out in the media for that F2 is ridiculous … I wish Adams play some minutes and really kicks is sorry as. to show him what tuff really means.
Calling Clarke a flopper shows your homerism and lack,of regard for opponents.
It’s a fact. You hit him in the face with one hand, ok that’s FL 1 by the rules and the play is over. But if you then pull a guy down by the jersey while he is still in the air and put him in harms way that’s where the FL 2 kicks in. It was text book dangerous and excessive. Green could’ve done the smart thing and wrapped him up to make sure he doesn’t get the ball up then he gets a normal foul. Him holding his jersey until he got to the ground isn’t holding a guy Clarke’s size up. A 225lb+ man that’s in the air as high as Clarke normally gets, then coming to the ground even faster now because someone is pulling him down is not going to hit the ground much softer by someone holding his JERSEY. If he was indeed trying to hold him up he would’ve tried to go under the arm or around the back.
As for the flopper comment, Clarke is a small big with great athleticism and a good basketball IQ. He isn’t Paul Pierce flailing around out there, he is being smart and drawing charges. That isn’t flopping.
Then what ?? Warriors played better without him, 14 baskets thanks to off rebounds… Refs were bad from the beginning calling too many fools
Just heard him on Inside. Draymond doesn’t get it and just plays 1 way, his way. I don’t think he’s dirty, but he plays reckless and in today’s league, they’ve chopped it up to keep flow of game. NBA is soft sure, but it’s to uphold player safety and minimize retaliation, and make the sport more marketable. He doesn’t have to get so many techs or play reckless. He chooses that, and needs to be more mindful of his intensity. Easier said than done, but even when he’s just speaking he sounds so incoherent.
Refs should teach him a lesson again and again, he will stop that yaddi yadda, me this me that, and be the great garbage player he is…
He’s getting more like Rodman, standing up for doing what he wants, disdaining the fussiness of shooting accurately.