Since re-engaging with the Jazz in trade talks, the Knicks have made an offer for guard Donovan Mitchell that includes Evan Fournier, Obi Toppin, and five first-round picks, according to Shams Charania and Tony Jones of The Athletic.
According to The Athletic’s duo, two of the five first-round picks the Knicks offered were unprotected. Those two picks would have to be New York’s own, since all the extra first-rounders the team has acquired from other clubs have some form of protections on them.
Charania and Jones also report that New York’s offer included “additional salary.” The Knicks would have to add at least one player to Fournier and Toppin in order to match Mitchell’s $30.35MM cap hit — Miles McBride and Cam Reddish are perhaps the most likely candidates to be that additional player.
A report in mid-July, when the Jazz and Knicks first engaged in serious discussions about Mitchell, indicated that Utah was seeking six first-round picks, plus young players like Quentin Grimes and Immanuel Quickley, in exchange for the All-Star guard.
New York appears to have moved toward closing that gap, but Utah will presumably continue to haggle over the protections on the picks as well as the young Knicks players included in the return. The Jazz would probably also rather acquire Derrick Rose and his expiring contract for salary-matching purposes than Fournier and his multiyear deal, but could relent on that point if most of the rest of their asking price is met.
Mitchell remains under contract for at least three more seasons with a player option for 2025/26 and reportedly hasn’t made a trade request, so Utah has conveyed no urgency to move him. However, if the Jazz can secure a return that matches or exceeds the one they got for Rudy Gobert earlier this summer, the expectation is that they’ll pull the trigger.
That’s way too much for Mitchell! The Knicks are outbidding themselves again! We’re giving up Toppin now? Just give ‘em Rose, Grimes, Quickley, and Reddish and 3#1’s for DM or forget it! The Jazz are not taking Randle or Fournier. Would you? Smh
Ok Knicks fan
I have zero desire for Mitchell on the Knicks. I hope the Jazz decide to keep him.
Amazing that Ainge thinks he can do better!
It’s not a good offer. Fournier has negative value. Toppin is a asset but small and highly protected 1st rounders can have little value.
Two of the picks mentioned are unprotected and if you’ve seen Toppin play, he isn’t small. Fournier is negative value, but if money is going along in the deal, the negative aspect has been reduced.
You’re nuts, five first round picks is a bad trade, Toppin is a 6’9 power forward who can score, shoot, rebound and play defense, why the hell would you trade for a combo guard when you have RJ Barrett? Mitchell was the primary and secondary option in Utah, with Barrett in the lineup he is the second option and if he is not running point guard his numbers will be down across the board, he isn’t a defensive specialist and will not be happy if he isn’t getting his shots, coming from Utah where he was counted on to be the primary scorer. It’s a bad fit.
Better to build around Barrett, Toppin, Fournier and Sims. If the Knicks were going to trade five firsts they would go after Zion, and that is still a bad trade because Toppin is legitimately nearly as good of a player.
@bwmiller Barrett (not a combo guard) being the number one option over Mitchell and Toppin (not a good defender) being nearly as good as Zion are easily the two worst takes I’ve seen today. Maybe ever.
Zion is a weird fit on any team, yet to be seen how he fits with the Pelicans because they were pretty good without him.
Toppin is a better wing defender who can score it, and that potentially makes him a better fit on a lot of teams.
Ain’t nobody more delusional then Ainge. I think “Trader Danny” lives in a bubble.
One of those 1sts is to dump Fournier. So its Toppin and 4 1sts + a salary filler for DM. Seems pretty fair tbh.
Why dump Fournier he shoots close to 40 percent from three over his career? He is clearly a three point specialist who can play defense.
And he is accustomed to his role as a secondary option, so he can play alongside RJ Barrett without any drama.
The Knicks should run with what they got, if anything they need another wing defender who can shoot or some depth in the middle.
Fournier is a perfect fit at the two.
Fournier is arguably the worst defender on our team and while I agree he has value, it’s in a Kyle Korver type role.
Fournier has good length, which translates to better perimeter defense as opposed to Mitchell who is more of a traditional point guard.
That was my point I guess, Brunson and Fournier looks better defensively than Brunson and Mitchell.
Robinson, Hartenstein and Sims are very solid depth in the middle, in my opinion. All locked up for at least the next two seasons. Thibs likes Sims but I don’t see a rotation spot for him unless one of the others gets hurt.
Would be nice if Reddish could be that wing defender who could shoot, but he doesn’t look like it currently and Thibs does not seem like a fan.
Just to be clear though, Fournier is and always has been a serious liability on defense by any metric, including just watching their games.
Jazz would demand 3 unprotected Firsts form Knicks
Knicks keep all Firsts from other clubs
My sense is that the Knicks should develop their young guys, Obi, Grimes & IQ. Donovan is great but he’s too short. Celtics have moved to all tall guys, almost, and that height helped them in last season’s playoffs. Planning your future on short guards makes no sense to me. Lots of tall talent taking over the NBA.
Yeah, because the Celtics lost to an even bigger team with giants such as Curry and Green.
I mean, obi ain’t that good that your counter is double the players. Grimes, Quick and Reddish have hi level productivity potential on ko chance at playing Tom “tutu” Thibodeau, wait, forget tutu throw in the worst insult you can give Tibs and give him 3 weeks to play more than 7 37 year old players the whole game.
All Knicks fans don’t understand this
Knicks expectation is as sky high as Lakers
Both teams want to win championships now AND next 2 seasons
It takes two years Warriors went from the worst team to championships
Championships are needed asap, Knicks and Lakers fans
Not a good comparison at all. The dubs were only down due to injury, then dudes came back, and in the meantime they had two very high lottery picks. They didn’t rebuild a team in 2 years lol, they already were a championship team. The knicks are not angling for a championship anytime soon. They drafted young players and built up assets, now they’re on to the next phase, looking for available trades and playoff contention.
Just include McBride and get it over with
Is it too late to NOT be a Knicks fan anymore? I’ve had enough! I’m really pist off! Nobody will offer up more then 3#1’s for the one dimensional Mitchell, expect for the Knicks! Smh
Hahaha they haven’t won a ship since Bernard King!
King never came close to a title in his career lol. Last knicks title was 72-73.
Nope. You can jump off the wagon anytime.
It’ll be good practice for when the Jays thump the Yankees in the playoffs and Judge signs with SD or Boston
@Jaysfan1981- I was obviously just joking around. I shouldn’t have to explain that to you, but since your just another delusional Blue Jays fan out there it’s all ok. No worries. Go back to sleep. I’m staying dummy.
Just LOL.
Someone’s a little sensitive
I think Judge will end up in San Francisco or Texas.
Too funny — they could have had Mitchell for nothing but drafted Frank Ntilikina instead, and now are offering 5 first rounders for him. Maybe they realize they’ll just f’ up the 5 picks anyway.
Lol I said the same thing. They should just build with what they have than to give up all of that. Smh.
I mean if they drafted Spider and the Jazz drafted Ntilikina we very well may still be having this conversation but reverse the names. Part of the issue isn’t just finding the right players but the development side as well. Knicks just haven’t been able to develop their lotto picks and that’s not 100% on the player they selected…
It also doesn’t help that they’ve had technically 6 head coaches since 2016… how can a player develop when there’s a new voice every year?
@orlandospurs- absolutely not! They can take Grimes. Deuce stays! Wth!
@Richie Rich- please stop! Don’t remind us. It’s better to just always try to forget, being a fan of this “cursed franchise”
I’m so upset and angry right now. Probably got to just take a sick day!
I believe the issue appears be the picks quality…Ainge wants unpro picks.
Not sure why the Knicks can’t trade Randle and Fournier for Westbrook and a future #1, then trade that #1 and 3#1’s of their own in a Mitchell package??? Toppin needs to stay! Help me out here, please!
Hahaha they really believe that they can contend with Mitchell, Randle, Brunson and no bench! This will turn out to be a bad trade just like the Carmelo one.
They should’ve pulled the trigger on CJ as he was more affordable, experienced and taller. They can also consider trading for Beal, thrown in 2 first round picks and Barrett.
Their starting lineup will be:
Brunson
Beal
Fournier
Randle
Robinson
Beal just reupped and literally can’t be moved til March.
This trade isn’t just about this year as Mitchell, randle, brunson, Robinson, hartenstein are all back for 2023 as well and Barrett will be restricted. All those guys will still be on the right side of 30.
No I’d rather have Mitchell then Beal. Beal is better? No CJ!
Cap: I’ve been saying that all along! NY should deal with LAL..get their picks from LAL, move Randle and Fournier in the process, then they have cap space AND PICKS, for a loaded ’23 Draft!
Then circle back to Utah, and we’ll tell Danny,what WE want to give him, not other way around!
What are we talking about with 5 or 6 first round picks PLUS multiple players (with upside) for one asset??? If Mitchell gets hurt then there’s no return on investment for the Knicks…. The NBA is a joke.
Also if I’m Utah, you have to say yes to that right?
Two unprotected at a minimum, plus Toppin and Reddish have more to give… they’re only a couple seasons into their careers as top picks themselves so that’s like 7-8 first round picks for one guy.
The NBA is not a joke. The Minnesota Timberwolves are a joke.
The Wolves aren’t stupid they went all in. Sometimes teams have to take chances. If all goes well and this team comes together they should be very good.
They have a great looking starting five in Russell, Edwards, Anderson, KAT and Gobert. They also have a very competent bench with McLaughlin, Forbes, McDaniels and Prince.
All respect to you as a Timberwolves fan. Just hate they gave up so much. Probably had no choice but wow that’s a lot. Hope they come out this year and make a playoff run.
I’m not a Timberwolves fan. (Well maybe a little bit as they now have Gobert) They did win 46 without Anderson and Gobert though and Beverly and Vanderbilt are the only major contributors from last season they gave up in the trade.
Brain fart by me. I know you’re a jazz fan. Sorry.
If I’m utah I want all the picks if I’m taking on Fournier too.
@DT Knick’ chester- ok, then we’re on the same page then bro! Your the new Knicks GM. You are on the clock, boss!
Obi IS a lottery pick! Not sure Ainge sees that! Look if they want Obi, we should ask for J. Vanderbilt to help mitigate his loss. He’s 6’9 and athletic defender at power forward, only 25yr old?
Lol Cap!!
CAP: save your sick days…you gonna need them later as this drags on! :)
@DT Knick’chester- As you probably know already, rooting for this team everyday is considered a sick day. Lol.
Time for the Knicks to move on. Mitchell is a nice player but he is not Michael Jordan. Ainge is simply trying to see if he can get a “stupid” offer from the Knicks for a player that doesn’t really warrant it. I don’t blame him because that is what any GM would do. If they haven’t done so already, Knicks should just say this is my best offer or offers and take it or leave it. Utah can go get the better offer or just ride with Mitchell.
For the future of these kinds of Trades I surely hope the Knicks aren’t Timberwolves stupid.
Danny Ainge took advantage of the Nets a few years back. Learn from that. Don’t let him now take advantage of the other NY team.
Better to home-grow your team and the Knicks are on the way … unless they fall for the bait.
Once a player becomes a star, leave him be, wherever he is.
Go HomeGrown Celtics!
If the rumors are true about it costing them Rose, 7 picks and youth I’m not sure what the holdup is on the Knicks part.
If They acquire Mitchell now. They can create around $27 million in cap space next off season. Fournier would be an expiring so someone with cap space would take him off their hands for a 2nd rounder. That would give $45 million in cap space, plenty of room for a max contract.
The free agent market for the Knicks isn’t deep next year as Harden or Irving would be redundant with Mitchell and Brunson. Wiggins or Turner might be available though. They could also go full circle and bring back Porzingas!
I don’t know where you getting that. Brunson, Mitchell, randle, Robinson and rjs cap hold is like 120 mil. That’s basically cap right there. (It is with quickly and hartenstein).
I’m no cap expert but these guys are
link to spotrac.com
Scroll down: practical projected cap space= $27 million
7 picks IS the hold up lol
I know that historically the Knicks unprotected picks were usually lotto, or near, picks. But we need to know that those picks have more value for other teams than the Knicks themselves. They are known for making mistakes on judging, drafting and developing prospects.
So in the end, they should trade for D. Mitchell. That offer seems like fair value IMO, i have read, not sure, that those other picks from other teams are highly protected and unlikely to convert.
With all the trades they’ve made it’s hard to keep track but I know they picked up Washington’s protected top 14 for 2023 and Detroit’s protected top 18 for 2023 and Milwaukee’s top 4 protected in 2025 on draft day. I believe Dallas still owes them a pick from the Porzingas trade. They still have several of their own which shouldn’t be all that great as they should be at least a playoff caliber team if they make the trade.
Thanks for the recap, so yeah they are probably really mediocre picks, and with the addition of Donovan they can easily turn into a playoff team.
IMO draft picks are kinda overrated, even more when those teams have a bad record drafting. Utah probably will ask for more, but the Knicks should keep the offer around something like this.
IMO draft picks are the way to go in today’s NBA. Build your team with young, lower-price, new, taller & better talent! Then when the team is almost there, fill in w proven vets.
These days it’s maybe harder than ever to build through free agency, so I agree the draft is definitely important. Being able to essentially control players for their first 7 years is huge, plus it’s more cap-friendly than star free agents.
What does Thibs want? A veteran core. He’d probably rather keep Randle than Toppin. And including Cam seems like an obvious choice given the lack of PT.
Leaves them 3 tradeable 1sts. Just do it.
Robinson, Randle, RJ, DM, Brunson. They will need to find depth at PF and the Wing.
And maybe they make a push for another piece down the road.
Basketball isnt my thing but hear me out.
Utah doesnt want randle or Fournier why not add a 3rd team?
Knicks mitchell
Lakers randle or Fournier
Utah westbrooks expiring contract 2 firsts from lakers, 2 of toppin grimes quickly and 4 firsts from knicks (including 2 unprotected)
Apparently, the Lakers don’t wanna trade Westbrook for Randle and Fournier now. I really wish I had what they we’re smoking.
I can’t understand why the Knicks would give up such a high price for a player that would not guarantee that they would be able to get past the first round of the playoffs they would be better off if they hold on to their picks and see what happens doing the season
I think the reasoning is that if they can turno the franchise into a playoff lock a couple of seasons in a row, they can hope to attract other stars in free agency to land there and then becoming into a contender.
I respect that and maybe is the only way for them to be relevant at least.
@adam2029- I can’t tell you how much I agree with you truthfully. If we trade 5#1’s we might as well just try to trade for the 34 year old KD instead of 26 year old Donovan Mitchell.
That doesn’t make sense though when there’s more steps to be made. Even Durant wouldn’t put the knicks close to a title, so why go with the aging star when you want the younger one here for the duration of his prime? And he wants to be here. KD is demanding a trade with several years left on his deal.
The issue is the brunson signing. They could have just used those expiring contracts in this deal. I don’t know why they didn’t get it done then.
Right. It’s like when JJ Barea had a nice couple years in Dallas so the wolves gave him a nice contract to be their guy at the point. He kind of floundered and didn’t live up to the expectations. Went back to Dallas and he was good again.
Do you feel like if they tried to utilize Reddish or the other bench guys they had a bit more, the Brunson signing would make more sense? Like Brunson could be okay but he isn’t, reddish has shit to offer but they will never play him and think he’s got trade value by ignoring red
I dunno maybe someone should tell knick3r AL to answer my qs, unless he’s too busy being sorry he’s smarter than us all.
I think Mitchell is a good player but 5 picks and players . The Gobert trade has messed up trades for everyone else. High expectations. Now if the Knicks do it , Danny Ainge would be a genius trading 2 players for all the picks and players in return . I think Mitchell starts the year out with the jazz and see what they do . Unless the Knicks say we will give you what you want , which they just might do they are desperate to be relative again . If I was Knicks I would not make the deal
I’ll trash the Knicks all day til they get better, I’m a Celtics guy, then raps (canadian), then pacers….
Straight up side? Clip/Heat final wouldn’t be impossible, but orobsble
*******so autocorrect is fine changing my typo of “probable” to “orobsle” (yeah no typo) but not letting me finish typing a paragraph that is honest about how the Knicks have multiple players under contract they straight up refuse to play.
It’s OK, except for the unprotected part on the NYK picks. Top 4 protection at least, but that protection could go away after 2 years in each case. Both picks would vest at some point.
If Fournier is viewed as requiring one of those 1st round picks (which I doubt), then UTH would have no problem giving it back if we keep Fournier. We can easily send them some expiring dead money in place of his number. Plenty of places to find it. Fournier has a 2+1 at this point, and his salary isn’t out of line for his production.
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Boston – Smart/Jalen
Nets – Kyrie/Seth Curry
Heat – Lowry/Herron?
Hawks – Trae/Dejonte
Milw – Jrue/?
Chic – Lonzo/ Caruso
Toronto – VanVleet/?
Philly Harden/Maxey
[Up and coming:
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So us as Knicks fans & PT GMs need to ask is: Giving up multiple pics to have a backcourt of Brunson/Mitchell…is it worth it?? Can we match up against contending teams guard play, as well as the upcoming guards tandems in the East.
THAT’S REALLY THE QUESTION!!
(Apologies for missing a few teams and guards) :)
Mitchell’s worth it.
Then the Jazz can keep him.
He ain’t!!! That’s for sure!
Would rather have rose than Fournier
You can have em’ both.
It’s not the worst i say 5 1st round picks what is this nba 2k
Utah…please keep Mitchell.
So reading between the lines NYK is slowing winning this game of tug of war with time
Not a hard concept to understand
Now Danny doesn’t have to break and NYK doesn’t have to bend in the end but there’s a game within the game if you look closely
* My bigger take- Knicks fan should be happy, The old regime would just say come in, take anything you want, and have my first born daughter as well. So even if this doesnt go down Knicks fans should still feel good about the direction the front office is heading (or at today). In a sense this is probably more important than Dononvan Mitchell for the future
*slowly
Time for the Lakers to join the party.
Jazz would rather expiring deals sweet they can help with that
Jazz: Russell Westbrook, Obi Toppin, Quickly, Christie and 6 first round picks
Knicks: Donovan Mitchell
Lakers: Evan Fouriner, Jordan Clarkson and Bojan Bogdanovic
Lakers throw in a first, give you a massive expiring contract in Russ and you also get Max Christie.
Knicks get what they want but have to throw in IQ. Lakers take back Clarkson and Fouriner who both have 2 years deals and then Bojan.
Lakers then line up
Bron Fouriner Bojan AD *Tristan Thompson*
Clarkson THT JTA Johnson Bryant
Knicks have a messy roster and line up small most likely Brunson Mitchell Barrett Randle Robinson but they atleast have the talent.
Jazz most likely buy out Russ, then a lot of the other older vets look for trades such as Beverly, Beasley, Conley etc. I’d actually probably keep Conley to act as a leader and teacher for this young team. He’s not going to win you that many games but will go along way to helping guys
Yes yes yes turn the music UP
Seriously tho I see some good legs with Utah/Lal/Nyk to get together on a 3 team trade
Danny gets what he wants
Lakers prolly need to do something to appease LBJ and KI seems unlikelier by the day
Knicks – Get DM
Utah is the perfect landing pad for RW’s expiring contract
I love how people just casually throw in Clarkson and Bojan to these silly trade ideas. You’ve seen what they’re asking for Donovan, right?
The Jazz would have to REALLY like Max Christie to offer essentially Bojan and Clarkson for him and take on Westbrook’s huge contract. They’ll need much more than that.
Lakers and Laker fans are notoriously cheap, once again! Lol
According to reports Clarkson has would have a fry market and Bojan is a 34 year old on an expiring deal. Not like they are some amazing assets. As for Russ’s huge contract it’s an expiring deal and the total money owed to him is roughly what is owed to Evan Fouriner who is on a 2 year deal.
Then because the Jazz are only giving up Donovan Mitchell in the deal and taking back multiple players they would have to cut guys in order to make the deal offical and get back under the 15 full contract maximum amount a team can have.
So really taking on Russ on an expiring deal instead of Fouriner is actually more favourable cause it means they can also offload guys to the Lakers and not have to waive anyone which also saves themselves money. Max Christie is just a through in for the rebuild to sweeten the deal.
You see taking back Russ, Toppin, IQ and Christie equals idk 60mil first year then 8mil second year cause Russ would be off the books. Whereas getting Fouriner, Toppin plus whoever else to salary matching equals 35mil year 1, and then the same year 2. Plus you have to pay out guys on guaranteed deals to get under the 15 player max.
So as I said it saves them money and it’s another young player. Lakers would be doing them a favour but also it would be a move to help build around LeBron.
Think Evan Fouriner would be a perfect fit, really smart, can create for himself or others, can hit open shots, isn’t a complete liability on defence. Jordan Clarkson is perfect for bench impact, gives them a go to scorer. Then Bojan is great for his versatility can line up at the 3 or 4. Which fits well with Bron at either the 1 or the 3/4, and AD as the 4 or 5.
The whole point of Utah cleaning house. Is ALL ABOUT THE DRAFT ……..
It’s all about finishing in worst three in the league. Only way you have a shot at
Victor Wembanyama ……. who is projected to be better than Rudy. Even a top three pick in next yrs draft. Means a future star. So the longer Danny waits. The less chance he has of finishing in top three of draft.
Now in season a player can go down. Then Knicks would have competition for DM. As of now no one has a better offer than Knicks. So waiting too long. Will work against Utah. Knicks should just wait it out now. Even better wait till Jan 15 and go for another player. F$&? Danny …….
I mean, I’m with you on the draft. I would love the Jazz to tank for 2-3 years and get some MVP level talent, essentially. The Jazz just don’t know how to do that. They end up winning too much. It’s fun but also a curse. The Knicks should put together a training course on how to lose. The Kings could contribute as well. =). Just messin’. Lol
I would want the Jazz to tank. I just think it’s going to be hard with so many vets still on the roster. That’s why I don’t think the Jazz really want to trade Donovan.
In todays NBA. There are stars that come in league every yr. I believe Donovan was a 13th pick. So I agree tank for two yrs.
Knicks don’t know how to Freakin tank. Just bad enough to never get a good lottery pick. This two yr regime now has done the best so far.
I’m Utah I take the picks and tank for two yrs. Next yrs draft is loaded.
@ Cap and @ Simmons-Russ:
I appreciate both of those takes. We’re all just trying to make sense of this debacle. But one of my key points is: Leverage. We are doing the “begging and the push-n-pull here (dating myself saying that :)
Anyway, Leverage is a key factor in negotiations, albeit not the most important. IF the Knicks do the LAL WESTBROOK deal FIRST (just btwn them), then
A) they move off Randle, Cam, Fournier contract
B) they take on a 47k expiring contract for cap space in ’23
C) We take Pippin Jr/Stanley Johnson for youth and a big wing to guard Boston and Miami big wings in playoffs. Plus ask for Thom Bryant, a 26 yr old stretch big/shot blocker and rebounder and energy forward.
D) We take LAL 1st rd ’23 prot pick, and both ’23 2nd rd pics.
E) We also giv LAL our ’24 pick( protect or not)
When the smoke clears, we have 3 more picks on ’23 draft that’s SUPER ( we can use those picks on draft day to make sure we get one of the highly touted Thompson Twins (super talented wings!)
Then when we knock on Mr Ainge FRONT DOOR and say to him as follows:
We GIVING YOU (cause we have Leverage now)
-25/27/29 unpro picks + pick swap + a’23 unpro
-Obi/Rose/Mcbride, not Fournier!
Now…Danny can’t say, oh…its too much salary to take back (Rose only has this yr left @ 14k, next year is a team option, which Danny won’t do!)
-Also we ask for J. Vanderbilt
-No more 1st rounders!! Giv 2 2nd rds if needed.
Everyone wins here. I see this as clear as day! It works because you can’t have a one-sided negotiation. There’s a name for that….)
It all hinges on where those picks are projected?
All these talks about Donovan Mitchell shows how hard it is to pry a star from another team. It’s because they’re very hard to find in the first place.
The only reason to trade Donovan now is if they think they can end up with a top pick. If not, then there’s no guarantee a team with a top pick will want to make a trade.
Based on what Ainge has been asking for, I’m not sure he’d go for that. Vanderbilt alone can be traded for more than a couple second round picks. Many teams have inquired about him.
However, I believe he’s one of the players that can’t be traded before September 1st? I know Pat Bev is one of those. Has to be 60 days from when the trade was made official.
Nice idea but I doubt the Knicks would do that and I’m sure it would just be simplistic for a standard 3 way deal. The power is with the Jazz as they have the best player, Knicks have the picks and the young talent the Jazz want so the deal should be easy and Lakers are just there to help the Jazz with an expiring deal and take whatever off cuts they can in return in hope of making a better roster. Jazz would be fine with that cause it’s a bunch of old guys going to an old team and they are rebuilding. Two completely different time lines.
Knicks if they had Russ would have a good expiring contract, young talent and picks everything the Jazz want in return but at the same time they have the be best player and can easily just hold onto him as he recently signed an extension or look to trade him somewhere else. The power will always be with Ainge so it’s better to compromise
We All Set Up For Year 23!! That’s our year to make real seismic moves (whether FreeAg, cap room, draft and STILL have picks!!)
LOADED @K’bocjerAL! Absolutely loaded. Im of the view to let the DM chase go at this point. Just move unwanted salary, play the utes:) and keep the hard-at-work culture going…and play (1) home game @ Rucker Park or West 4th St ! :):)
Gotcha Simmm-Russ! So it seems you would rather do a 3-way deal first, than just the LAL-NYK first?