The Lakers have discussed trade concepts involving Knicks wings Cam Reddish and Evan Fournier, sources tell Shams Charania of The Athletic. Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported last week that the Lakers and Knicks discussed a potential three-team deal, so perhaps Fournier, who’s out of New York’s rotation and owed $36.86MM through 2023/24 (with a $19MM club option in ’24/25), could have been heading to the unknown team in that scenario.
Reddish was also removed from Knicks’ rotation recently and is in the final year of his rookie contract, which will pay him $5.95MM this season. He’ll be a restricted free agent in 2023 if he’s issued an $8.1MM qualifying offer.
Here are some more trade rumors from around the NBA:
- Following up on the Lakers/Knicks reports, sources tell Kurt Helin of NBC Sports that Russell Westbrook‘s $47.1MM expiring salary is unlikely to be dealt due to the assets the Lakers would have to attach to move him.
- Charania wrote earlier today that L.A. remains in pursuit of forward Bojan Bogdanovic, and are offering a protected first-round pick and salary-matching contracts. Marc Stein reports in his latest Substack article (subscriber link) that the Pistons are “insisting on a fully unprotected future first from the Lakers to seriously entertain” dealing the veteran sharpshooter.
- Though they’re considered a less likely seller than the Bulls, rival teams are keeping a close eye on the Raptors ahead of the February 9 trade deadline, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report. “The timeline of their players don’t match,” one source said. “They have good players, but it will be interesting to see how they navigate with OG [Anunoby] and Fred [VanVleet].” VanVleet will likely decline his $22.8MM player option for ’23/24 in search of a longer-term deal, while Anunoby will almost certainly decline his own option in ’24/25, so Toronto has more time to decide what to do with him. According to Pincus’ sources, the Magic and other rebuilding clubs with cap space next summer might be worth keeping an eye on for VanVleet, who has struggled mightily with his shot this season (.360/.326/.846 splits through 21 games).
- Perhaps the most available player amongst the Raptors‘ rotation regulars could be shooting guard Gary Trent Jr., who can also become a free agent if he declines his $18.8MM player option for ’23/24. “I don’t think they want to keep Trent,” one source told Pincus. Toronto is just 2-5 in its last seven games, including two straight losses at Orlando, and currently holds a 13-14 record.
- Pincus suggests the Jazz might be more of a buyer than a seller after their 15-14 start to the season. He also mentions that teams are eyeing the Hornets as a seller after injuries and off-court issues ravaged the roster. According to Pincus, Terry Rozier, Kelly Oubre, Mason Plumlee and P.J. Washington are among the players worth watching. Washington, in particular, is reportedly seeking more money than Charlotte might be willing to offer in restricted free agency, per Pincus.
Raptors would be crazy to trade there only shooter(Trent jr). Think they’re learning the hard way that playing 4 PFs(who are none shooters) doesn’t work in todays NBA. ALSO if they cared about Barnes they would have him sit til he’s 100%. Its pathetic seeing that young man limping all over the floor. NN is turning into a new age thibs.
Absolutely. He is Thibs 2.0. Why play a limping player when there are health people on the bench.
Trading Trent is one of the worst ideas rumored. Nurse moved him to the bench for dumb reasons??, but the bench was lacking scoring, so I think that was the objective, but Banton, and Flynn deserve, and need to be playing.
Looks like Barnes might always be hurt.
Knicks get Westbrook plus some 1 or 2 2nds
Lakers get Fournier, Reddish, Randle 1 or 2 1sts.
Not doable. Nor would the Knicks make that deal.
Lol lakers get rid of Westbrook and acquire 1sts?
For clearing the rest of Fournier contract off the Knicks books? Yeah, at least 1 1st rounder will be required.
Lakers not taking on long term money just in case there’s an outside chance they can get kyrie next off season
I doubt kyrie will join LA after leSellout sold him out in the media.
Kuzma to the Raptors would be interesting.
Not really. Poeltl would be interesting
Westbrook for Rose, Fournier and Reddish. It works and the Knicks get Fournier off the books. Lakers get the PG and outside shooter they need, along with Reddish who they want.
As a Knicks fan, sign me up.
Trade concepts for Fournier is 2 1st round picks included, or a swap for Bertans in Dallas.
Bertans makes zero sense from a Knicks perspective. They’re both bums making around $18 million a year, but Fournier only has one year remaining while Bertans has two.
Sucks to be your opinion of the Knicks perspective then. Get out your 2 1sts to rid Fournier or take on bad salary. Does this ever go down another way, in your opinion of the knicks perspective?
What in the world are you talking about? You suggested Fournier for Bertans straight up. That makes zero sense for the Knicks. I said nothing about the 1sts.
Fournier has one more year left at $19 million and sucks. Bertans has two more years left at $18 million and sucks. Please explain how it makes any sense at all for the Knicks to trade Fournier for Bertans.
What in the world are you talking about? Defending Fournier like this is a lost cause. Just ask the Orlando & Celtics fans. There was no insult intended to anyone but the knicks front office for signing Fournier to such a large contract. You should find other things to get excited about, and insults that are more blatant. This wasn’t a long thought out precise valuation, but it got the point across on how awful Fournier is. Thats all it was, I really don’t care about Fournier’s precise value. Its not coming out of my account.
Before any meaningful LAL trade can happen, LAL have to decide that they’re willing to (for the right deal) forego the 30 mm or so in cap space they project to have this summer. They indicated throughout the off season that they were not. Expiring deals for expiring deals will yield them nothing.
I suspect the LAL FO floated all the recent rumors, but I also suspect their audience may not be the potential trade partners, but the stars on the current team and/or elements of the fanbase that expect them to go all in. Regardless, the standings generally determine whether a win now trade makes sense. As of now, I think they pass.
That’s what I thought before the year started. The Lakers would have to bite the bullet and play this year out and burn a year of lebron. No Way Around It.
You can’t shoot yourself in the foot and deal away 27 and 29 also. Next season hopefully LeBron has enough in the tank and with all the free cash available next summer hopefully they can put something together that will spell success on the floor.
I think they probably thought it before the year too. But there is virtually no constituency that wants to hear that, and its not 100%, so they’ll talk the talk and let it play out. But when the trade deadline clock runs out, if they haven’t moved up in the standings, then I think those picks will stay put.
Yes and the only wrench in the plans to be in clean this summer is if some team will give up two pretty good players that aren’t quite working out, for Westbrook’s expiring at the deadline.
In this case the Lakers would not be clean this coming off season but perhaps one or both of these new guys would be target acquisitions anyhow?
Lakers window is SHUT. All they got is Bron going for record. Father Time is banging on the door.
Knicks will do something. We will see who is available Jan 15 or by trade deadline. I rather they move sooner rather than later. (Jan 15)
LAL—> Reddish; Richardson
NYK—> Beverly; Nunn
SAS—> Fournier contract; NYK FRP (protected); LAL FRP (protected)
Not bad, but I don’t see what purpose PatBev serves on the Knicks.
rct, can’t you read? It says right there.., Nunn.
haha, Gary!
A protected FRP would be the market price to shed Fournier’s contract, but NYK wouldn’t pay that price until there’s some use for the space (like the ability to create cap space and a use for it). They might use Reddish to shed Fournier now, but not him plus a FRP. Fournier is not that important.
3 team trade LAL/DET/IND
LAL – Bogdanovich, Turner, Burks, Noel
Det – Westbrook,(Player) via IND, LAL 1st (unprotected) & LAL 2nd
IND – Beverly, Bryant, (Player) via DET, & LAL 1st (protected)
Hope this is read and for anyone else new.
You can submit trades through nba trade machine online or similar sites if you don’t know #s offhand.
Trades have many rules. Salaries must balance out (roughly) on each team. There are few exceptions.
Salaries past the current year need to be known. Some players can’t be traded until a deadline for them based on their contract. Team Cap hits must be taken into account.
Truly there is too much to know. But basics can at least begin with year 1 money.
In your scenario. (Guestimating here) The Lakers take on
$20+$20+$10+$10. in year one =$60
year 2 = $20.
Another team takes on $13+$2= $15
Another team takes on Westbrook= $47
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60, 15, 47
Some people dont learn and get mad. Some hopefully learn.
post changed. my cut and paste #s messed up. And now i look like a doofus. Salary sent out vs coming in.
A. The salaries only have to match for every team involved if all three teams are over the cap. In this case DET and IND are not over the cap, so only LAL has to match their incoming salary to their outgoing salary. That match is 125% of the outgoing contracts plus $100,000.
B. Even if they were over the cap, these salaries fit the matching rules with the inclusion of the player swap that happens between DET and IND.
LAL sends out $62M and receive $56.7M.
DET sends out ~$46M and receives ~$49M
IND sends out ~$20M and receives ~$20M
Zach to Knickerbockers ………
Personally what I’d do if I’m the raptors
1. Thad Young, Flynn and a second round pick for Wiseman and Ryan Rollins
2.
Toronto: SGA
OKC: OG, Kuzma, Hachimura and 2 unprotected first round picks (Raptors)
Washington: FVV and Darius Bazley
Line up
SGA Trent Jr Barnes Siakim Precious
Banton Otto Boucher Wiseman
Rollins Champagnie Hernagomez Koloko
Maybe add a SG from FA (Jeremy Lamb, Langston Galloway, Wayne Ellington to name a few) that’s if you don’t like Champagnie or Rollins.
Aside from that you’ve got a great starting 5, lead but two all nba level players in SGA and Siakim. Your future is set with SGA and Barnes are two perinatal all stars and hopefully you can develop Wiseman into the star he is suppose to be aswell. However right now you’d have a side built for a deep playoff run that would win a bunch of games through the year
Why on earth would the wizards trade 2 perfect complementary pieces for a ball dominant guard when they have Bradley Beal? This trade makes zero sense for the wizards not to mention OKC trading one of the best players in the league under age of 25 for 3 role players and 2 late first round picks. You are out of your mind and clearly a raptors fan