The Warriors are considered the heavy favorite to sign veteran big man Al Horford if he doesn’t retire. However, ESPN’s Marc J. Spears reports that a couple of Eastern Conference teams are interested in his services (hat tip to Brian Robb of Masslive.com).
The Bucks and Hawks, along with the Lakers, have looked into signing the Celtics free agent. Atlanta could hold some intrigue for Horford, since he has a home there.
“Golden State obviously expected him to sign last week, he didn’t [sign],” Spears said on ESPN’s NBA Today. “Lakers, Milwaukee, and Atlanta, I believe are also interested in a nearly 40-year-old guy who also has retirement on the table. He’s still considering retiring, he’s not in any hurry. He’s got a sixth kid coming on the way, he lives in Atlanta and Boston in the offseason. I’m hearing that whether it’s Golden State and a lesser extent to the Lakers, being away from the family that far isn’t going to be in that decision.”
Celtics president of basketball operations Brad Stevens said earlier this month that it’s “unlikely” Horford returns to Boston, though Stevens did say the team made offers to both him and Luke Kornet (who signed with San Antonio).
Milwaukee’s reported interest is somewhat surprising, considering it has landed Myles Turner in free agency and re-signed big men Bobby Portis and Jericho Sims.
Atlanta would make more sense, considering the offseason departures of Clint Capela and Larry Nance Jr. The Hawks traded for Kristaps Porzingis, but would be relying on youngsters like first-round pick Asa Newell and Mouhamed Gueye for depth purposes behind Porzingis and Onyeka Okongwu in the frontcourt.
I understand Holford value if he’s much younger. However, he’s near the end. I guess GS is trying one more chance to win with Steph.
As long as they don’t burn him out, he’ll be great in the fourth quarter of a playoff game. He’ll hit the shot, play great defense, exemplify winning basketball.
What you get during the regular season and how often.., I’m really not sure.
I’m fine with signing older players, as long as there are healthy backups who do a decent job in their absence.
With Looney gone, I believe we’ll need to add yet another C in addition to Horford. Expect Horford to miss 25 games. TJD and Post are still too raw to hold down the position on their own when Horford is out. Richaun Holmes, anyone?
Also a reflection of the current state of the center market. If you miss out on him it’s scraps.
He’s near forty, he can help but a championship out west is way out there. I don’t suspect he’s shooting percentages will be increasing with more court time at this point. Let’s be honest, Kerr will play him to death until he’s a shell of himself if even available come playoffs. Big difference between full and tax payers MLE too. All worth considering. As is location, I mean unless it’s the Warriors or Lakers apparently, lols. Warriors need a higher seed in my opinion. Don’t think Horford at his age does that. The top five or six in the west got better. Quite a bit better. Can the Warriors keep Kuminga and sign Al? Might need those young legs of Kuminga. Seems pretty unlikely cap wise.
Great points as usual Nrg82. I think I’m doing a lot of hoping and wishing.
But who else is out there? Again the Warriors have waited too long to pick up a decent big man unless they have someone up their sleeves as they unload Kuminga?
I don’t even know what they’re doing right now. The roster as it stands today sucks.
Dunleavy better have some kind of a plan. Putting all your eggs in fragile Melton and grandpa Al Horford don’t seem like championship moves.
I’ve been quiet lately on this site because I am seething with all these guys signing elsewhere.
They can always sign and trade Kuminga for Vuc, but they seem to have a crazy value attached to him.
Been saying that two seasons now.
To sign and trade for Kuminga, the Bulls would have to offer JK at least $45 million. That would mean no money for Giddey.
Who would they sign? How could they afford them?
Don’t worry, I’m sure Warriors will make a significant move or 2 before trade deadline, if not before.
hawks have okonwgu off the bench. is risacher really not gonna start?
okongwu is basically a 6’7″ non-shooting center off the bench… not a lot of depth there for atlanta.
Okongwu starts. We got Porzingis off the bench.
A healthy Porzingis doesn’t come off the bench. Youre delusional
In Atl he does
If they’re playing to win , he starts no brainer.
But will he ever be healthy again?
Warr yerz done deal hand shake wink wink.
Sheesh, no one wants to play under Kerr huh?
Return to Atlanta would be nice
Does or will Atlanta have access to the full MLE?
They used most of it ($11MM) on Kennard. Still have the full BAE.
Kuminga is sure ruining the warriors off season. At this point I hoppe he leaves because he will have a bad attitude since he is not getting his big pay day. So his only motivation is money.
He will get paid lol. Only way Warriors get real value for him during season.
arc, you mean disrupting the locker room? I got raked over the coals for suggesting that two weeks ago.
Warriors have known this for over a year now. He’s a RFA and doing what a RFA does.
Whne you have a player that is thinking himself first because of wanting more money means he will be making choices so his stats goes up. instead of passing the ball he will shoot. More worried about offensive side of the ball than defensive side.
Why do all of you cry so much. Most af you are more like Davey J than you think. Development and PT is dictated by the team. All RFA have a right to look out fir themselves. Warriors are here today cause of their actions not Kuminga’s. Stop the crying and look forwatd. It’s all Kumingas fault noe move on. Concentrate on messing up his trade. I’m sure then you will blame him for that too.
i am not crying but saying the warriors need to accept the fact Kuminga will be gone soon and just sign players. They are not doing teh team favors by watching the few good free agents sign else where. They are too worried about needing to match his money but if he does get that large contract let him walk.
Al, “The Warriors are here because of their actions not Jonathan Kuminga’s?”
There’s a chance Jonathan Kuminga could be an exception, but the overall rule of life and work and performance and sports is that success depends upon YOU, the individual.
100% of it.
The crime of many of today’s modern day youth is that “it’s the coaches fault, he didn’t play me, he didn’t like me,” whatever.
You hear it all the time. It’s horrible how we’ve become accustomed to that kind of language.
I love this quote and I use it all the time in business. It applies to sports as well. I think it’s from an old time actor who made it happen for himself and didn’t blame others….
“Be so good they can’t ignore you.”
Even when Kuminga got those minutes in the playoffs after Curry got hurt the warriors still didn’t win. He is not a #1 option guy just a 3rd option guy on the warriors. His rebounding and assist were below average. He can score but needs to do more on the court to be a star.
@arc89
While it’s a fact that the Warriors lost after Curry went down, Butler and Podz were also injured.
21 ppg on 54%/42%/74% splits when rusty due to Kerr’s benching him is legit.
moody was injured too and had surgery after the playoffs. Problem is Kuminga’s rebounds and assist were down.
With all the injuries it’s an invalid take, he’s not expected to pass the ball when the team needs scoring and his rebounding wasn’t that poor considering the wolves’ huge front line.
That’s incredible ignorance. Did you watch the games against Minnesota with the sound off? BecausE the national broadcasters were asking why Kerr kept taking Kuminga out of the game and didn’t start him when he was obviously their best player because Curry was injured.
If you want somebody to be a #1 scorer, give him the minutes! Look at the box scores against Timber wolves Kerr should have been playing Kuminga 40+ minutes per game like Butler. Not 30 minutes per game like Kuminga played. Kuminga was scoring like a #1 option.
Kerr kept on taking out Kuminga to put in GP2 towards the end of those games. Brain dead.
Dude you are still crying …..
Kuminga just turned 22. OMG his life is over. Warriors didn’t have to come here. Kerr stop playing Kuminga two yrs ago. Instead of handling his value and moving on. He killed it. Then was forced by management to play him to bring his value up. I been saying this for years. Now finally the media has caught up to me. Its real simple. You don’t believe in him. Then move him and move on. Why procrastinate. You should be thankful teams still like Kuminga. Wa wa wa weeee waaaahhh
isn’t that what I am saying warriors should move on? unfortunately the owner loves Kuminga for some reason. He has said it in previous interviews he wants Kuminga to be a warrior for a long time.
Come on arc. Now you have no choice. Most all Warriors fans on here. Have always blamed Kuminga. All I have ever said. Is take responsibility and move on. Lol Horford is a great pickup for Warriors. But you can’t just give away Kuminga.
Heat seems like best option. They have young players that can fit Warriors offense better.
Jaquez, Jovic, future #1 pick, plus Horford OK
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I been saying teh heat has good young players that they could trade for Kuminga. If they ofgfered Jovic and Jaquez the warriors should do it in a heart beat. Kuminga problem is his agent is telling him he is a max guy when he is not even close. So any deal he signs he will think he is being under paid. I do think Lacob is pulling the strings not to trade him. Kuminga a few weeks ago was sitting next to Lacob at a WNBA game.
@arc89 Horford not signing last week had nothing to do with Kuminga or anybody else not signing
Mark Spears reported today that the Warriors had thought they had final terms with Horford, but he didn’t want to sign. In other words, Horford was expected to sign before Kuminga, not after.
Every modern pro sports team is going to have several players unhappy with their contract or role. We learned this week that Kevon Looney had been unhappy for a couple of seasons. Klay and Draymond have been unhappy. As was Moody. Etc, etc. it’s unavoidable.
Ari I think the deal is done. Horford is coming. It’s already been decided. Perhaps the same thing with Melton too?
Media just doesn’t know it yet so they’re scrambling for reasons why he hasn’t signed yet. There’s no reason.., he’s on vacation and he’s already decided where he’s going.
Gary, I really hope you are right. I thought so too, until I saw Mark Spears talk about it yesterday. I believe Spears when he said the W’s had expected Horford to sign last week.
I believe this much: Horford and GSW have agreed on terms. But I think Horford is wavering for some reason.
On Melton, agree, he wants to be a Warrior because he knows he’ll get minutes here, his best shot at rebuilding his value. He can wait for the Kuminga stuff to resolve because he’s got offers for the minimum from other teams that won’t go away.
He’s heavily contemplating retirement. If he just wanted to play another season he would stay in Boston. If he plays he wants a legit chance at a title. With or without horford the warriors are probably going as far in the west as Boston in the east
> He’s heavily contemplating retirement.
That would certainly make sense out of the recent events.
If Atlanta wants him he might choose the hawks, given he lives there.
Kuminga needs to see as of now no team thinks he is a super star. Not 1 team has steped up to offer him money or the warriors players in trade for him. So the scouts are not saying he can be a future for their team. Not even bad teams are saying he could be our future.
> Not 1 team has steped up to offer him money or the
> warriors players in trade for him.
Arc89, You’ve said these things many times before over the past few weeks, so I’m assuming you don’t understand what’s going on.
The absence of a deal of any kind has little to do with Kuminga ( as with Josh Giddey, Quentin Grimes, and Cam Thomas), and everything to do with the fact that teams have no money to spend under the CBA rules at this point.
Only one team, Brooklyn, could have made an offer to any of these, and it would have been limited to $20M. None of these players and their agents will sign until or unless they can get fair value.
Similarly, Chicago and GSW can’t trade these players for equal value until December 15.
GUARANTEED: by the end of this year’s trade deadline, all 4 of those players will have contracts paying them what they are worth.
Looney unhappy? The dude has no game. Can’t believe he got the contract that he did.
Can’t shoot, not tall, has no offense whatsoever, but he’s strong, unselfish, and is a smart player. That gets you nowhere today you gotta have some skills. Kevon Looney has no skills. Zero.
The only thing you may count on his résumé is offensive rebounding.
With a regular role, that’s maybe four per game. Enough to say he’s a good player? Absolutely not.
Was Looney a critical piece of the Warriors championship era? Yes he definitely was. He got the ball and threw it to another guy and instead of shooting it himself.
He played great pick and roll defense because he was pretty mobile on the perimeter. He knew where to go. He knew what to do and he was a perfect teammate. Not a great teammate, but a perfect teammate.
But at this stage he’sdone. Bad contract, bad player, finished.
After the coach passed away in front of Looney he was never the same after that. Last year he was inconsistent. He did need a fresh start because the death of his coach had a big impact on his mental readiness.
Yes arc, that is true. That will definitely take a hit on your psyche and thus your performance.
Then losing such an ally on the coaching Staff would be difficult as well, especially if Kerr etc. have soured on your on the floor performance the last year or two.
Another thing I’ll give him as a reflection of character is that he lost a bunch of weight going in to last season.
He was a little bit too heavy previously, and he lightened up at the suggestion of the coaching staff in order to be more mobile and stay healthier.
As I mentioned, he’s the perfect teammate, but he just can’t play anymore.
I mean, I’d rather have the guy I just beat up in the other article, Brook Lopez, at this same dollar amount because Lopez can shoot and block shots lol.
Looney does none of that and is about as immobile as Lopez.
I don’t blame him for complaining about minutes because he should have received more playing time. many times I said why not get Looney ion there they are getting killed on the boards. Kerr does make many mistakes with playing small ball too much and thinking Green can play teh center position.
Gary, I’m 100% with you on Looney’s value at this stage of his career.
I mentioned Looney’s statements from this weekend that he’d been unhappy in the context of arc89’s (understandable) concern over unhappy players in the clubhouse. My point: fans don’t know just how many more pro athletes are unhappy about their roles. To Looney’s credit, he never let on publicly.
The PR narrative with Looney was that he was the happiest and most grateful Warrior — blissfully content as the selfless backup… completely supporting the head coach’s never-ending and unpredictable rotation changes. Now we know the truth: it frustrated the heck out of him. IMO, it’s all part of being a pro athlete.
Even the fans gets frustrated with Kerr’s rotations because some make no sense playing small ball against bigger teams.
arc89, If you loved small-ball in the past, get ready for Steve Kerr’s favorite roster ever. “The mother of all small ball.”
With or without Horford, this will be the smallest starting lineup in the NBA. It’s also the oldest starting lineup in the NBA. Because when you go small, you should also go slow.
Let’s drill down. First, the good:
– Looney is now gone. Post and TJD remain as normal-sized backup C’s.
Next, holding steady:
– good news that Kerr’s favorite Power Forward and small-baller, GP2, hasn’t been re-signed, but the local media reports GP2 is still waiting in the wings, as the rest of the NBA looks away. GP2’s playoff performance should make him a bridge too far, but Kerr remains optimistic.
– DeAnthony Melton still on-hold. He’s an undersized SG, but at least Kerr won’t play him at the 4
Bad news:
– Draymond is only starting caliber C on roster; Horford signing odds, seemingly, heading south
– The PF position is scarily undersized, esp with Draymond at C. Kuminga is being pushed out the door. Playing Butler at the 4 reduces his effectiveness. Kerr’s favorite PF’s, Moody and Santos, are too small.
– No big wings. With Wiggins and, soon, JK gone, we’ll have the smallest wing defenders in the league: Podz, Hield and Moody.
If warriors go without picking up a center to go along with Post its going to be a very long season. You are not going to beat the much bigger teams in the league. One of the reasons they should never trade any of their 1st round picks because all could be lottery picks in the future. they better not bring back GP2 with Melton they have their back up for Curry.
arc89, IMO, the Center position is not the biggest of their small-ball problems. In the modern NBA, long and athletic wings are more important.
The value of long, athletic wings like Wiggins, Kuminga, Camara, Nesmith, Anunoby, JBrown, HJones, etc can be difficult to see in the numbers, but without them guys like Anthony Edwards, Kahwi Leonard, LeBron, Durant, etc will kill you.
In the event Kuminga goes, the only Warrior left to defend guys like Edwards, Kahwi and KD is Butler, but Kerr has determined not to use Jimmy’s energy up that way.
What is frustrating is there are 6 8 guys still out there that can defend so why not sign them. Instead we have teh team waiting on Kuminga. Forget him just sign players and assume he is leaving. I don’t blame MD but i blame Lacob because he is teh one that loves Kuminga the most.
arc89, Look at it this way: it’s not about who “loves Kuminga the most”, but about Lacob’s & Dunleavey’s professional responsibilities VS. Kerr’s.
Kerr has a planning horizon of 1 year. He’s a “lame duck”. It makes sense that he won’t play developing players, and would want to see JK replaced by an older, experienced player with no future.
Lacob and Dunleavey have a planning horizon of at least 4 years. They need to be thinking of how the Warriors sell seats in 20 months, when the Steph, Jimmy, and Draymond are gone. Without any young players (along with the CBA making superstar free agency a thing of the past), GSW is a 15th place team, ticket prices plunge, season ticket holders walk. And, the Warriors will go back to spending under the salary cap.
To be fair to Kuminga, he has not been a disruptive element is a sense that he didn’t try to stink up the dressing room, didn’t have his agent make harmful comments etc.
He said he wants to play more and be a star, which is what all young players say. It would entail getting a star-level salary, ofc.
It was said that Whitmore was stirring it up behind the scenes in Houston, for example.
The day the regular season ended, probably even before that, GS knew that this is how it was going to go.
GS stated that they want a promising young player and a frp in a potential Kuminga trade. On a karmic level, they don’t deserve anything else than a roleplayer, because that’s what they’ve been trying to turn Kuminga into.
That’s a good assessment of the Kuminga situation.
Blame Kuminga as you please for not being a good player, being slow to learn, taking bad shots, etc
But it’s unfair to call him selfish or disruptive. If he believes he can be more than his current coach thinks he can, it’s completely reasonable for him to ask for a trade or become an unrestricted free agent.
I just thought that Jonathan Kuminga would be a disruption if they signed him to a deal, but it was very clear that when eligible, the Warriors would trade him to get full value of his contract.
When everyone knows a player has 1 foot out the door there’s the possibility it could be a disruptive locker room.
That’s all I’m suggesting.
These guys are professionals, including JK.
He’s not going to be in fights or cause drama, but possibly JK looking for his own a few too many times during a game could be disruptive.
Gary, the problem will continue that JK, as reinforced by Dunleavey and Lakob believes he should be a featured player in an NBA offense to be paid his full value, whereas Kerr wants him to be GP2 until Kerr retires.
It’s been that way for the last 2 seasons, and it will continue. Kerr will be trying to push JK out the door while Lakob and Dunleavey are trying to retain JK until after Kerr leaves. And it’ll likely continue to play out in the media, just as it has been since the playoffs ended, with these 3 guys making contradictory statements about JK.
The case of the Slippery Nipples affair continues.
There are anywhere from 8 to 14 players with one foot out the door on every NBA team roster at all times.
It’s a stretch to call it disruptive when players are looking for their shot. Everybody does it, to some extent.
All GS had to do was just use Kuminga according to his strengths. In the first 3 years of his career, he was an efficient scorer when initiating from the wing (actually more efficient than Wagner, who’s so praised for it). He’s an excellent defender when picking the opponent’s dribbler in their half, I’d say better than Nesmith. He has shown it many times, and not just against Edwards in that Minnesota series. He’s an absolutely adequate rebounder. I have no idea what Kerr is babbling about him not rebounding. For a SF, who often defends on the perimeter, his rebounding is quite good – he got the same rebounds per 100 possessions as McDaniels, Kuzma, KPJ this season. Only 10% less Draymond.
He can legit score when the team is a bit out of ideas as he doesn’t really need sets and clever ways to remove opponents’ center from under the rim – he can drive and score even against good defenders much better than average. This is one of the things that goes against Kerr’s nature as a coach. He always tries to be more clever. And sometimes you don’t have to be more clever, sometimes you’re just better. Some players have the capacity to score effectively against the likes of Gobert and Mobley under the basket. Kuminga is one of them.
Kuminga is actually quite good at breaking zone defences – I’ve seen him have good moments against different types of zones. Probably because he doesn’t overthink like Podz and the rest, and doesn’t wait for a timeout to listen to Kerr. He drives and penetrates early in the clock, which are things that break the zone.
Kuminga is excellent on the fast break.
That’s already a lot. Why not use it? Why try to make him something that he isn’t?
A lot has been made out of him being out of rotation after the injury. I don’t watch that much GS basketball, but what I noticed was how differently Kuminga was used at the start of this season compared to the 2nd half of 23-24. in 23-24 Kuminga was getting starts, was getting almost 30 mins a night, was in rhythm, was scoring well, was drawing fouls at a decent rate and was making FTs at almost 80%, wasn’t asked to shoot 3s, looked engaged. So what happened at the start of 24-25? He didn’t start, he was put in the corner, he was shooting 3s, which I can only imagine he was told to. What was that all about?
It is pretty obvious. It doesn’t take a lot to figure that out.
And why is that?
Why wouldn’t he be motivated by anything but money and opportunity It’s not the Warriors have done him any favors.
I guess Al deserves the most money he can get. So that midlevel at 5 mill sounds about right. If you look at the teams that want him. I’m surprised Knicks aren’t one of them. Like only FA Knicks aren’t going after. Which is strange. Cause he is actually believable.
I’d say it has to be a contender playoff team. Can offer him that midlevel. Warriors look like the best fit for him. They can give him consistent mins. And he brings a lot of what they need. Especially with Looney gone.
He’s not going to GSW idk why they keep pushing it. Dudes almost 40 and has young kids with another on the way. If he doesn’t retire he’ll be playing for Boston.
He’s not going to play a one year in Boston as his last year in the league.
They’re trying to cut money so there would be a minimum for Horford.
He’s not going to take that to finish out of the playoffs. He’s gonna take some kind of mid-level Thing with the Warriors and make one last run with the core warrior group.
Boston has already said they don’t want him. And if he wanted to retire. He would have. Al is not Bron a headlines monger. Search the web. All things point to him waiting out the Warriors. Kuminga money is holding this up.
All things point to him not wanting to be with the warriors. They offered him a contract and expected him to sign and he didn’t. He’ll be on the east coast. Boston on a 2 year deal. Maybe a 1 piece in Atlanta? But he’s not going west. I don’t care how many times they write about it.
Look up the word search lol …..
Only so much teaching I can do …..
You do understand what rumors mean. And what media dies with it …?????
Al Horford hasn’t signed with the Warriors yet primarily due to the ongoing uncertainty surrounding Jonathan Kuminga’s restricted free agency. The Warriors are waiting to finalize Kuminga’s situation (whether he signs an offer sheet elsewhere, is involved in a sign-and-trade, or returns to Golden State) before making further moves, including signing Horford.
link to google.com
The kuminga thing would only make sense if they didn’t already offer al a contract?
Tuna, tell me exactly what the contract was that the Warriors offered Al Horford? I’m curious.
I don’t know any details. But according to reports they thought Horford would sign last week and he didn’t. But the latest is the warriors are trying to pry Allen from the Cavs. Google is ya friend.
It also appears that the warriors were not waiting on Kuminga, but rather Horford was waiting to get other teams involved. He wants more than the warriors are offering. He won’t be signing with GSW
Al Horford is not shopping himself anymore. That’s why these other teams have signed the other players especially the other centers !!
Horford and the Warriors have a rock solid commitment. The media will not announce that because they don’t know it.
I’m only asking because you said the Warriors offered him a contract.
I thought you knew something by that statement.
Yes Google is my friend, but I don’t always believe what they say. I don’t always believe the “reports.”
I think the Warriors not only offered Horford a contract, but they are in agreement to sign at the appropriate time.
He’s coming it’s already decided.
They did offer a contract and it wasn’t signed and Nah they would have announced that they always do even if the signing happens later. There’s no announcement because he has not committed.
Tuna, there’s no announcement because if the Warriors sign Horford, their hands are tied with Jonathan Kuminga. I thought you knew that? I thought everyone knew that?
Yeah but that’s incorrect.
The Warriors can offer Horford the TPMLE so long as they stay under the second apron, which they are currently more than $30M under. Kuminga’s cap hold is well below that, so it’s not a concern at all.
He just doesn’t want to play for the warriors and it’s obvious.
Tuna ok if they’re more than 30 million under, but if they sign Horford now, their hands are tied for any other transaction. They’re done.
How could they go after Allen of the Cavs? They can’t do that with what you said.
They would have to trade first then sign Horford. Or if I don’t understand that correctly, let me know. But isn’t JK‘s cap hold what he would sign for, which is say 25 or 30, but his trade value would only be 12 or whatever?
You are wrong Tuna. The Warriors have the full Non Taxpayer MLE. They also have the BAE. They can’t pay Kuminga more than $25 million. They can then use the NTPMLE on Horford and probably Melton.
If the Kings offer for Kuminga is indicative of how teams value him, he ain’t getting anywhere close to what he wants, and what the Warriors will accept. He needs to do some serious soul searching.
Giants74 what you talking about. The cap is 154m and the warriors have 170m in committed salaries. They can offer the TPMLE.
“I don’t know any details?” Then Tuna, why would you state that the Warriors offered him a contract?
You don’t know.
Apparently, you don’t know what you’re talking about, and I do know what I’m talking about.
You don’t know what you’re talking about either dude. There’s no commitment from Horford. It would be plastered on the news especially since his TPMLE contract would have nothing to do with Kumingas situation.
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for all the information.
Same to you bud. Can’t wait to see which of was is right. Either way I’m looking forward to an I told you so! Hahah
There’s many different ways to fry crow. Olive oil helps the bird be a little more palatable. Trust me, I know.
By the way, I cheat. I know people. You can concede now and save pain later.
Jokes on you bro, I AM Al Horford.
Best comment of the day. Very good.
Or Atlanta where Al has a home. Just terrible Al has to leave Boston because Tatum got hurt & there’s not enough money left as the new owners hedge fund the team. Would have been right for Al to play another year or two with the Celts competing for a title then become a Celtics big man coach. Now he has to scramble.
Yes, I agree. Atlanta is a possibility. Family man owns a home there and in Boston. I really don’t expect him to go anywhere else.
It would be homecoming for him to return to Atlanta where his career started
SIX kids???
No pull out game lol
Ha!
Sigh. Kuminga has the potential to be a great a player, all the tools. But, he’s immature and doesn’t play for the team, he plays for himself. The warriors haven’t been trying to turn him into a role player or anything else. Kuminga makes bad decisions and is really a lot like Klay the year before he left. The team is worse with him out there, even though he has the skill set to excel.
Horford, Thomas Bryant, Boucher all still available.
I wonder if Kuminga would make sense in Milwaukee? Front line of Turner, Giannis, Kuminga? Probably have to be a 3 team trade because idt bucks have any players GS would want
Sounds good, but no shooting. Would never work.
Turner can hit some shots from the five spot but he’s about equal value for his position. May be a little bit better.
Giannis and JK don’t shoot well at all and would be massive negatives.
That would clog the lane and Giannis and JK would be less effective in their strengths as a result too.
JK’s shooting numbers after Curry went down (54%.42%.74%) disagree, and Giannis thanks to his paint scoring is at 60.1%.
Giannis not a shooter. Everyone on the planet knows that. Paint scoring is in the paint. They don’t call post guys “shooters.”
Secondly, are you saying that Jonathan Kuminga is a good three-point shooter? Just asking.
Again the Turner Giannis, JK front court would be a very, very bad fit. No shooting.
NBA is OK, well you made me go look it up.
But once again, your opinion is wrong here.
Giannis three-point percentage last year 22%.
Jonathan Kuminga three-point shooting percentage last year 31%.
I really don’t understand your motives aside from trying to find any little crevice or crack you can try to maneuver in and to Discredit my opinion?
Are you still upset about Mac McClung not becoming an NBA player? He’s not an NBA player no matter what you say or think of him or any stat to give. He’s not good enough.
You just don’t like it. I’ve called you out on it every single October. I’ve said you’re wrong and you’ve been wrong.
You’re wrong on him and you’re wrong here and I’m sure you’re wrong many other times but I leave you alone.
I have respect for you as a basketball fan who’s opinions matter just as much as mine.
So stop looking for cracks and crevices and come in with real facts if you’re going to try to challenge. Small sample sizes don’t work with guys have been in the league four years.
Usually your attempts fail. But usually I take the high road.
Yes this is a rant because you’ve done this for years. There’s nothing wrong with affirming or liking my opinions is there? Why don’t you come aboard sometimes?
I like your comments all the time out of respect and olive branch stuff. It’s a good feeling you should try it.
I apologize for apparently having offended you, it certainly wasn’t my intention. If I didn’t respect you I wouldn’t bother to argue my opinions with yours. At my age (old enough to have seen the Russell Celtics thanksgiving weekend 1965 in the old Gahden when I was 9), I guess being grumpy grampa is pretty typical in my comments.
But I did post facts about JK and Giannis that weren’t wrong. IMO if JK can shoot 42% from 3 in the 2nd rd vs the wolves, he likely could do even better in the reg season if he had a coach that played him consistently. A 4 game sample size can certainly end up being deceptive, but the wolves made the wcf 2 straight seasons and are a good perimeter defensive team, so 42% was impressive.
Anyway, I’ll try to argue less and support you more
NBA is OK, I appreciate your kind words. Your sentiment is well received and a rare offering in today’s world. Thank you.
I just thought Giannas 60% from the field had nothing to do with the “shooting” from the perimeter I was referring to.
Then I thought a 6 or 7 game series in the playoffs really doesn’t translate to a guy like Kuminga’s shooting profile.
It was like, why is this guy picking me apart again and using stats that don’t really apply? So I just went for it.
Again, thank you for your grace and thank you for stepping forward first with the kind words.
That says a lot about a person and I hope you don’t hold my rant against me for long.
There is a problem with saying that Kuminga shot 42% from 3 in the final series of the season. Kerr challenged all the players to be better at shooting 3s before training camp opened up. Curry said the young guys have to step up. For the season, the Warriors were 16th in 3 point shooting percentage. They were 17th in points per game. He should have been doing it all season long.
Kerr misused Kuminga his whole career. He started him early last season for 3 games but barely played him (he avgd 20 min/gm despite 2 blowouts). Warriors were 2-1 with a loss to the Clippers where Kuminga was the 3rd leading scorer with 12 pts, and he shot poorly (4-10/1-6), tied Dray with 5 reb to lead the starters, had 1 ast and team high 3 stl, with a +/- of 0 in 22 min.
But Hield played 6 more minutes and was notably worse, just 8 pts (3-14/1-9) 6 reb 2 ast 4 TOs -7, and Podz played 2 more minutes and was 2-8/0-5 5 reb 4 ast -2
The next game JK was benched and Hield and Podz started. Talk about sending a negative message!
JK only started in 7 more games all season, and didn’t even start in the wolves series with Steph out.
The Warriors are also dealing with Jonathan Kuminga’s restricted free agency, which affects their cap space and ability to finalize deals.
This is what is holding the deal up. Warriors can’t sign anyone till Kuminga is gone or on the books. If they sign Al they could loose Kuminga for nothing. Teams know the Warriors situation lols. They are not going to accommodate them. Teams are also waiting them out to get a better deal on Kuminga.
So for all the cry babies here. Warriors can’t sign anyone .So then just sign Kuminga and move on. Sign Al for what they can, the minimum. Then take care of him next year. They can even cut a player to sign him. Its Warriors mismanagement like always ……
Suns bought out Beal to move on. Bucks bought out Dame to move on. Warriors can’t sign anyone till they cut 4-5 mill off their books to move on. If they want to. There is always a way. They let Kuminga situation get here not Kuminga.
Oh gawd Al…Would you stop it with your incessant whining about Kuminga. Kerr is such a terrible head coach because he trying to win games. Winning games is his job. It is not catering to one player.
Kuminga had $30 million on the table. He felt he deserved more. He went on to have his worse shooting season of his career. You can’t say it is because of Kerr. Moody and Podz started the season in slumps and finished strong.
If the Kings offer for Kuminga is to be believed, he is not receiving a lot of strong interest around the league.
Al, I think the Warriors have cut out a lot of salary already. They let Looney go, they let Gary Payton go.., that should free up a chunk of change for their intended purposes?
It would be nice to see him come home and play for the Pistons. He’s from the Lansing area. I get the connection to the Bucks. His dad Tito played for them. I think his presence will be huge for the young Pistons team.