Asked during a Monday media session about losing free agent big man Myles Turner to their division rivals in Milwaukee, Pacers president of basketball operations Kevin Pritchard said he had been engaged in “good-faith” negotiations with Turner’s camp and that team ownership was willing to go “deep into the tax” to hang onto Indiana’s starting center, per James Boyd of The Athletic and Dustin Dopirak of The Indianapolis Star.
“If we keep Myles at the number we were talking about — or in that ballpark, because I felt like that was still a little bit ongoing — and with the moves that we were talking about doing, we weren’t trickling into the tax,” Pritchard said (YouTube link). “We were over a second threshold.”
Pritchard clarified that the Pacers would not have operated over the second tax apron, so the “second threshold” he cited may have been a reference to the luxury tax brackets — the tax penalties get increasingly more punitive for every $5.7MM a team spends over the tax line. Indiana may also have exceeded the first apron if Turner had been re-signed.
There were conflicting reports on exactly what the Pacers’ final offer was, but most of those reports suggested the team hadn’t gone beyond a three-year bid worth about $22-23MM per year. Turner ultimately signed a four-year contract worth a total of nearly $109MM with the Bucks.
“I felt like we were working towards a deal,” Pritchard said. “But when you’re unrestricted, as soon as you hear a number that you feel like is good for you, then I think he felt like he had to take that.
“… It’s his opportunity, it’s his right to say, ‘Hey, that’s it and I’m going in a different direction.’ It was never acrimonious, it was always pleasant going back and forth. I think that there was a number he was trying to hit. I think we were in the ballpark. But that’s my opinion. It must not have been for him.”
Pritchard admitted that he learned about Turner leaving Indiana for Milwaukee the same way that most fans did.
“We would have been open on a sign-and-trade because it’s sort of mutually beneficial, but we didn’t get to that point, unfortunately,” Pritchard said. “I saw Shams (Charania) tweet it, and that’s how I knew that Myles was taking (the Bucks’ offer).
“… I was shocked, if I’m being perfectly honest. I thought we were kind of going back and forth in an open way. We’ve done big deals with that agency, and they’re great guys, and we’ll be doing more business with them. But Myles must’ve heard something in that (Bucks offer) that said, ‘I’m gonna take it right now.'”
While a sign-and-trade deal might’ve put the Pacers in position to acquire something of value in return for Turner, the Bucks were able to create the cap room unnecessary to sign him outright by completing a series of roster moves that included waiving Damian Lillard and stretching his $112.6MM in remaining salary across five seasons.
Pritchard acknowledged being surprised by Milwaukee’s aggressiveness, though he said the front office was aware of the possibility of an over-the-cap team finding a way to create cap room.
“We always say in our conference room, there’s cap teams that have cap space and there’s shadow teams that have cap space,” he said. “You can go get it, but it becomes very challenging by buying out (players) or making trades. Hat tip to Milwaukee to do that. … I can’t tell you that we were fully expecting that.”
Calling it now: Bucks will trade Turner back to the Pacers within the next 24 months.
IMO, the best idea
Pacers can overpay him, then trade him for another player to shed salary in January 2026.
Many teams can take more salaries.
Pistons
Spurs
Blazers
Nets
etc
Yeah, but also remember Turner had been on the trade block for the last 5+ seasons. He remained a Pacer so that sort of tells you how interested teams were about acquiring him. When there were rumors that other teams were interested the last few years…they were only interested if they could dump bad contracts on the Pacers. So lets not pretend that there will be a huge trade market out there. In this case, Milwaukee made a desperation move in order to keep Giannis.
Pacers can trade Obi Toppin, $45 million contract remaining . He should be a hot product on the market all season long.
Not sure how many seasons you can dangle a guy on trade market until you shouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t come back to you about matching a better competing offer or getting you something in return in a sign and trade. Turner sent a clear middle finger on his way out the door lol.
We were totally just about to make a competitive offer, we swear.
Why Only two NBA trades reported this offseason have yet to be announced?
Nuggets
Porter Jr for Cam Johnson
Saric for Big Man JV
These quotes are such BS.
Indiana never got above 3 for $60M. Sure, that $20M salary would’ve moved Indiana into the second apron, but they never made a competitive offer.
If they offered him 4 for $100, he’d still be a Pacer. Sucks for Pacers fans that the organization completely screwed up the Haliburton situation and now Turner’s contract… at least you guys will always have the 2025 Finals run to look back on.
Agreed it’s a word salad to cover for an owner cheaping out after banking a bunch of extra playoff revenue. Sad reality.
How many rebounds did Turner get in The Finals?
We all know these owners and GM’s lie. Indy is a cheap run organization so of course they wouldn’t pay the tax to keep Turner with Haliburton hurt especially. PG reminded us all when pacers had a chance to get KG and refused cause ownership said “It’s a small market team “.
No, that is incorrect. It wasn’t KG…it was AD. PG was interested in playing with AD and supposedly AD was OK with relocating to Indiana (at least that is what he told PG). However, AD was still under contract with the Pelicans so AD would have had to force a trade – the Pacers couldn’t just sign him outright. I doubt a team of PG + AD + a bunch of scrubs would get far in the playoffs.