There has been “renewed” dialogue between the Warriors and Jonathan Kuminga‘s camp during the last week as the two sides continue to propose contract concepts, ESPN’s Anthony Slater said during a Friday appearance on NBA Today (YouTube link).
As he has reported previously, Slater says that Kuminga and his representatives are seeking a contract that positions him to be more of a building block than simply a trade chip.
“The word I’ve heard used from the Kuminga side is ‘pawn,'” Slater said. “He doesn’t want to sign this two-year, $45MM deal with a team option where he is clearly just being used to be traded mid-season. That’s not something he wants to sign up for.
“Now if you’re talking about a three-year deal, if you’re talking about something with a player option that shows him a little bit more commitment, that’s something he’d be interested in. But as of now, the Warriors have been hesitant to do that, and because of that, Kuminga is signaling to those around him that he’s very willing – and prefers – (to sign) the qualifying offer over the two-year, $45MM deal. That’s dangerous for the Warriors. They can try to call his bluff, but right now, it seems to be trending toward the qualifying offer.”
A handful of Warriors free agent targets – including big man Al Horford – are awaiting resolution on the Kuminga situation before they can potentially finalize deals with Golden State. However, with training camps not scheduled to start until the end of September and no crucial dates coming up for restricted free agents until the October 1 deadline to accept a qualifying offer, Slater wouldn’t be surprised if the standoff extends into September.
“August is a lot easier for people to just be like, ‘OK, we’ll get to you when we get to you,'” Slater said. “September’s where it starts to get a little bit more uncomfortable. I don’t know if there will be movement or a little bit more angst on the Warriors’ or Kuminga’s side, but September is where this could get a little bit dicier.”
As Slater acknowledges, it would be somewhat surprising if Kuminga gives up $14MM in 2025/26 salary and signs his $8MM qualifying offer instead of taking a two-year, $45MM offer from Golden State. But accepting the QO would put him in a better position to dictate his future, since it comes with a no-trade clause for ’25/26 and the ability to reach unrestricted free agency next summer.
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“You talk to people around him and he’s pretty dug in,” Slater said. “If two for $45MM with the team option is going to be the best offer, he will see them in training camp on an ($8MM) expiring qualifying offer which includes a no-trade clause. Because he wants either to be viewed as more of a building block or he wants his freedom, his control of his future. And the qualifying offer, while less money, gives him control of his future.”
Good for him
Are we still in fantasy mode about Kuminga. ….lols
“The Golden State Warriors offered Jonathan Kuminga a two-year, $45 million contract that includes a team option for the second year and requires him to waive his no-trade clause, which is tied to his Bird rights. Kuminga has reportedly declined the offer, primarily due to the no-trade clause stipulation. This situation highlights a power struggle between the Warriors and Kuminga, with the Warriors seeking to maximize their leverage in potential trades, while Kuminga seeks more control over his future. “
This isn’t an offer. It’s a way to sign the FAs they want to sign. Kuminga will never give up his Bird rights……..
No agent will ever let his sign Anything. That makes him give up his Bird rights. Cause he can’t get a max extension afterwards. So this isn’t an offer. Cause NO PLAYER is giving up his chance at a max extension. The Warriors want Kuminga to sign his QO so they can sign the FAs who are waiting to sign …….
“ Losing his Bird Rights would have significant implications for Jonathan Kuminga’s ability to secure a maximum extension and negotiate his future in the NBA. ”
I dont understand, are you agreeing or disagreeing with me lol
Im sharing more information to support Kuminga. Warriors aren’t being truthful now. And frankly have never been about Kuminga. I guess I am agreeing then..
Clearly the Warriors have the leverage, as all teams do when they have a RFA in a dead market.
Slater being the mouthpiece for Kuminga saying he’ll take the QO, lose both all those millions AND his Bird rights doesn’t mean Kuminga is actually that dumb.
If Kuminga takes the 45mil, it is guaranteed money that will be on his bank account. Maybe not as much as he wanted but still a lot of money.
If he takes the QO and lets say Kerr doesnt play him as much next year, he might have to sign a 1 year deal to “prove himself” on another team, but he risks never even getting back to that 45 million.
I feel like Kuminga has some leverage because he is the only trade asset the Warriors have, but it’s a risky move for him
Except only $22.5 mil is guaranteed, since the 2nd year is a team option.
Makes sense, I think overall the point still stands. He is making a risky move and betting on himself, it could workout amazing but it could also end his career.
I am all for him screwing the Warriors over though, they screwed him for years
Qualifying offer…sore back, bad Hamstring. Tweaked ankle taking a hell of a lot of time to heal. Going through the motions in practice. Working out mainly away from the team with his own trainers. Benched and a distraction in the locker room. Ouch, my back again. Buy me out please, I’m done with you. Bye. Not to mention the media circus. This could get real ugly for the Warriors and all for nothing.
Nothing is uglier than Green criminally assaulting Poole and getting away with it. Stop the hyperbole.
If anything it would be uglier for Kuminga whose risking some good money just to satisfy his pride and ego
Honestly…it’s August 15. This whole situation has been blown out of proportion. Why is everyone so impatient to get rosters settled in August? That always happens in September.
You can pretty much assume all current FA’s left have had GSW reach out to them at this point. Literally all of them are waiting on this. We will see way more minor trades than signings until the “big 4” sign.
I was hoping arc89 was gonna take a day off from the comments section. He’s already been here though, Davey J. But hey, I’ve done pretty well not mentioning this particular NBA player for a while – for fear of irking arc89 – but I’m curious: do you think it’s even remotely possible Giannis and the Bucks continue to wait patiently for Kuminga to cave and sign the 2-year deal (the team option on year #2) with the Dubs so that either…..
(a) Kuminga gets moved to Milwaukee THIS OFFSEASON, along with Draymond (heck YES, I’d do it) and Moody and probably TJD (and draft capital), for Giannis and maybe AJ Green?
or
(b) scenario ‘A’ happens, but not until February 2026?
Why would Draymond be in the Giannis package, when Jimmy is the better money match and talent? I’m scratching my head at that part.
Jimmy was never in the Warriors plans, KD was. Jimmy was the runner up prize, but neither he nor the Warriors made each other their first pick – so why act like Jimmy is a cemented member of this team – ahead of Draymond?
We cannot have Steph, Giannis and Jimmy on the same team, that’s THREE $50+ million guys! The bench would be all 2way talent! lol never happening.
Steph, Giannis and Dray are who I feel MDJ and Lacob are targeting to have together, that said, maybe GSW would move on from Dray to free up his money to get a deeper bench, if Dray is being stupid again. But he wasn’t being bad Draymond last season.
Weird how Draymond being in the trade is so important to you, honestly. Its totally not a match or anything, Jimmy is the guy who will be in the deal. That said, I can see the Bucks flipping Giannis + their vets for GSW’s youth to match salary, it won’t be just Giannis going to GSW.
Wait WAIT! Liiiisten to me, Davey J: this is Mike freakin’ Dunleavy’s team and vision now – NOT Bob Myers’. Did you notice a pattern from my LONGSTANDING trade proposal with the main 3 Dubs players leaving, excluding TJD? They’re all Myers’ guys. Jimmy is Dunleavy’s guy…..am I right? Now…..picture, if you will, an offense anchored by Steph, Jimmy, and Giannis. What’s the first thing that comes to mind during this EPIC visualization? Allow me to first tell you what I am visualizing. I’m visualizing THE greatest perimeter shooter EVER…teaming up with one of THE most athletic interior presences the game has ever seen…teaming up with PROBABLY one of THE best fits for Steph and Giannis’ games….a freaking mid-range SHOWMAN! Let me recap for you: the best outside threat in today’s game, yesterday’s game, the year before that’s game….CHECK. One of the best interior threats in today’s game, yesterday’s game, the year before that’s game…..CHECK!….AND a mid-range wizard to help connect it all and who can STILL score better (and in more ways) than Draymond? This wouldn’t be fair for the rest of the league!! This would be as good or better than the Steph-KD-Klay conglomeration ever was!!
Ok, but you literally cannot have three $50+M guys on the team. Case closed.
It’s possible if after about spot #9 you have all scrubs. Case ajar just a tad. Go Dubs.
Wrong, its after spot #7. 2018-19 Warriors proved you cant win by being top heavy.
I want either Steph/Giannis/deep bench or Steph/Giannis/Dray. Hope that clears things up!
@Davey J
Any deal for Giannis is a ofc merely a fantasy.
@ The Chosen
Giannis loves Milwaukee, the East is weaker than in years – he’s not going to ask for a trade this season.
See both sides he’s delusional in thinking warriors should run offense through him frequently but I understand him not wanting to sign a deal that’s mostly to be used as the main piece in a trade for Giannis or any other star
He should’ve played way more minutes in the second half of the season. Kerr had to play his hustle white guys though
Warriors didn’t have a white guy at Kuminga’s position all year
He was hurt the entire 2nd half until the last like 7 games when he came back rusty played terrible on both sides the ball and cost them like 3 games till he was benched.
> he cost them like 3 games till he was benched.
Chap, I can’t find the evidence of JK costing the Warriors 3 games over the stretch. And, he was benched only for the last game against the Clippers, which the Warriors lost.
The key is that there isn’t enough information to make these determinations about his late-season play because of Butler’s arrival. Kerr announced publicly before JK returned from injury that all of the offense that the Warriors had run through Kuminga before his injury would be run through Butler, so Kuminga would have a diminished role. (He was asked to play the same role as GP2 does, which is to stand in the corner.)
It’s this simple:
– If you don’t want to give Kuminga the ball on the wing, and want to position him in the corner, we have 3 years of stats that show it’s not worth playing him at all.
– If you want to benefit from Kuminga offensively, give him the ball on the wing where he has space to take defender’s off the bounce, and then attack the rim or dish. He’s been outstanding at this for 2 years, most recently in the Minnesota playoff.
Kerr has said since the season ended that, one, the Warriors made no effort to integrate Kuminga into their offense with Butler because there wasn’t enough time, and that, two, if Kuminga did return, they’d work out how to integrate him. To me, that’ll be the time when we can make an informed decision on how he’ll fit (or not).
> he’s delusional in thinking warriors should run offense
> through him frequently
He’s been extremely careful not to say that, or to be critical of the team in any way. What he has said is that if he’s given a chance with a team that believes in him, he can develop into an All-Star, and that in the future he’ll only play for a team that gives him a chance.
He basically craves the opportunity cam Thomas had last year even it it means sub 25 win seasons! Cam loved averaging 25 ppg but nets and other teams. Aren’t that interested in investing in it !
If I was his agent I’d tell Kuminga to embrace a OG like role ! OG makes 40 million off the back of his defense and a complimentary role On offense. Hes also slowly earned more on ball opportunities due to his defense efforts
Cam Thomas, Anfernee Simons, Tyler Herro, CJ McCollum, Jordan Poole and others are not who Kuminga should be compared with, because they’re all undersized guards who are not special athletically.
Kuminga is a super athletic wing with good size. If he was averaging 25 on good efficiency, teams would be a lot more interested in him than in Cam Thomas.
I can’t believe at his age he’s worried about a two year contract and where he would play.
He can’t actually be listening to advisors who tell him to take $8 million so he’s free NEXT summer.
TAKE THE 45 MILLION AND BE FREE IN 2 SUMMERS !!!
Whoever is giving him this advice is not too sharp upstairs. And if he’s the one coming up with this then.., well.., I already said it.
The only caveat is if he signs a two year deal now, does he become a RESTRICTED free agent again in 2 Summers? Is that a rule that I don’t know about?
If he signs a two year deal now, he’d be unrestricted when that deal expires. Obviously the moneybis important, but I also surmise he doesn’t want to get traded to a team that views him as a 6th guy – he wants to start and be a focal point of wherever he lands. That’s why the Sacramento situation appeals to him, because they’ve apparently given him indications that they see him in that light. The Warriors don’t, and that’s not going to change with Curry around and Butler playing the position he’s most suited to.
I don’t see much of a difference between being an unrestricted free agent and free to go to the city of his choice in 1 year or in 2 years.
The difference I DO see is almost $40 million.
It’s not a difference of $40 million though, because that offer wasn’t fully guaranteed. His year 2 would be just as tenuous as it is under the qualifying offer, except with even less leverage.
reflect, the second year is a team option.
If they don’t pick it up then he’s an unrestricted free agent after 1 year, which is his original request !!!
It just seems so obvious to me.., what am I missing?
If Kuminga takes a QO, it won’t be the last contract he signs. Next summer he’ll get a contract.
Kuminga, Giddey, Grimes compare favourably to most scrubs who took the QO over the last 10 years and who are brought up as examples of ‘QOs are bad for players.’
Giddey in particular could probably snap a bone, not play a single minute in 25-26 and still get close to 20 million from somebody next summer when there’s so much cap space around the league. Him and Kuminga are both very young, high lottery picks with a lot to be excited about.
How many players 22 and younger are there on the planet who are better than Kuminga and Giddey? Not many.
I still don’t think either of them takes a QO. They sign with their teams. But if they do, it won’t be a disaster for their careers and earnings.
Nerlens Noel
If his situation plays out like nerlens Noel warriors decline the option and he’s in the same spot. They need to at least guarantee the second year if he’s to give up the no trade clause he would apparently get if he takes their current offer
@reflect
Still a difference of $14,5 mil that he’ll never get back
Two more years with the Warriors the way they use him will kill his chances at a good contract by then. And them trading him may put him on a team not best tor him. No, he’s smart doing this.
BlackAce, you nailed it.
BlackAce, no one in their right mind sits a guy who’s productive, plays great, locks down his man on defense, does what’s asked of him and moves the ball, scores within the offense when needed, and does a good job on the boards.
Are you saying Jonathan Kuminga can’t take care of those things the next two years?
$45 million says yes he can. Maybe even a little more lol
Sometimes the type of player a guy is just won’t mesh on a certain team. With Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler in the starting lineup he will never fit. He just is not an outside shooter like that. It doesn’t mean he’s bad as a player or the final developed version is bad. It’s just not going to happen with this Warriors team.
OK, so say that’s the case. He should still take the 45 million, play his assets off for 2 years and go somewhere else where he does fit.
Another team will see the skills he has and shows.., even in limited time if that’s how the Warriors play it.
He played hard for all his years there it makes no difference either let him go free or make a commitment it’s not his job to sign a contract that only benefits the Warriors for trade purposes.
@Black Ace
Losing 14.5 million and also making it harder for him to leave via trade is the opposite of smart.
Any team willing to trade for him at $22,5 mil will want to feature him.
It is a team option for year two. He then gets traded for salary new team does not take option and he is now with no team.It is a big mess. Warriors are losing credibility as an organization.
Trade Butler, Kuminga and Toohey’s draft rights to Houston for Durant, Adams and or Capela
The Rockets think KD is the reason they will get out of the 1st rd. They would never make this trade.
That will be as far as they get with Fred VanVleet as their starting PG. Most overpaid player almost ever
VanVleet, Holiday and Sheppard yikes. Let’s see if S.l.er will help them
I can’t blame him for turning down the 2 year deal. Warriors should make the second year partial guaranted so in case of injury he still get paid.
People commenting seem to be missing the No Trade clause that comes with the qualifying offer. If he signs that, he decides where he wants to go!
If he signs the 2 year deal, the Warriors can/will likely trade him before he becomes a free agent at the end of the deal. And he doesn’t have control over where he ends up.
That no trade clause is worth a lot. Not sure how many millions, but he’s a multimillionaire either way, so maybe he just wants to play for a team he chooses!
Supposedly if he accepts their current offer it comes with a no trade but they want him to waive that and accept the second year being a team option! The compromise is one side gets one thing the other side the other thing
He’s 22 years old. One contract is either $45 million or it’s 22 1/2 million dollars.
The other choice is $8 million.
Nobody on the face of the planet can convince me that taking the qualifying offer is a reasonable alternative to taking the two year deal.
If he wants to decide where to play then he can do that in 2 years instead of 1 year.
Nobody on the face of the planet can tell me it’s worth sacrificing almost $40 million to have it 1 year earlier.
Again, he’s 22 years old he has his whole career ahead of him. To me this is just a mind blowing discussion and I really don’t get it.
For the love of God, sign the two-year deal, play your ass off, and you’re an unrestricted free agent in two years and you can go wherever you want.
It’s the biggest no-brainer in the history of mankind.
It’s $8M vs $22.5M. But he believes he’s worth $30 so that second year is $30M vs $22.5. So total would be $38M vs $45M if you believe he’s worth that.
However that $7M he’d lose is offset by
1) Free Agent in 1 Yr vs 2 Yrs
2) No Trade Clause vs Fully Tradeable and no ability to decide.
On paper it’s still an easy financial decision to make unless you really value having more control and the shortest window possible.
@Smitter
He can’t go where he’s not wanted. Add the loss of 14,5 mil to the injury risk and uncertain market in 2 seasons and it’s clearly NOT controlling where he ends up.
Gary, My wife and I launched a few children into adulthood. Our advice to all of was to “follow your dream, believe in yourself, and the rest will take care of itself”. All of them tell us that they’ll tell their kids the same.
if 22 year-old Kuminga really believes that playing for Steve Kerr for 2 more years prevents him from being great, I know what I’d tell him.
“Be so good they can’t ignore you.”
Gary RSW 8:15
I will also add this if you don’t mind Ari. Believe in yourself 100% but also listen to other trusted voices of reason around you.
$45 million? $8 million?
I know what I would tell the young man if I cared about him.
Take the money, be the best citizen you can, play your assets off, and you’re an unrestricted free agent in two years.
You’ve made more money in the last two years than many can dream of.
Now you have the rest of your career ahead of you. You’re gonna be great. Keep working hard.
Gary, that would be fine if Kuminga believed he’d be given a fair shot, but the chance of that left when Kerr announced after the season that JK didn’t fit on the team.
If Kerr had said something to the effect of what Dunleavey did (something to the effect of “JK has show the ability to adapt and it’s our job to help him get better”), it would be different. But Kerr was clear that he didn’t see Kuminga fitting in, and that Kuminga would do better elsewhere. Not surprisingly, Kuminga took it very badly.
I don’t know a parent that would advise their child to choose to play for a coach or work for a boss who talked that way about them.
Fair enough ari.
Gary, you made a great case for the other path. I’m not saying it’s an easy choice.
@aristotle
Yeah, Kerr’s ego is a problem that clearly hurt the warriors’ chances to trade JK.
That doesn’t mean Kuminga has to throw away $14.5 mil AND his Bird rights to prove a point.
Sure, but why, then, would a midseason trade be of concern? So long as there would be a handshake agreement in place in the form of “I’ll accept this deal, but if you trade me it has to be somewhere where I’ll get plenty of playing time”, I don’t see why that would be a sticking point specifically. Or why not go the partial no-trade clause route and eliminate the undesirable teams? The only issue I could see on that front is, of course, if the Warriors don’t want to play ball.
To me, as you sort of alluded to, it’s more about not wanting to play for the Warriors under Kerr unless he and his camp would encounter an offer too good to pass up. That much I could understand.
Shea, I’d been guessing you were a lawyer, but now I think I was mistaken :–) Do you think there’s enough mutual trust in this negotiation to do anything by hand-shake or verbal agreement? I don’t.
If I’m Kuminga, the only path that gives me comfort that I’ll land at an acceptable team is the QO. I’m going to lose a $15M this season and probably another $10M the next, but, after the last 4 years, it’ll be worth it.
Haha I appreciate the (former) sentiment. I do understand that lack of trust at face value and don’t blame Kuminga nor his agent for drawing a line in the sand, but if the Warriors did renege on such an agreement the damage wouldn’t be limited to their relationship with him. Word would get around in league circles that the Warriors can’t be trusted to keep their word, which could hurt future FA pursuits and trade negotiations. Don’t think they’d want to put themselves in that position but crazier things have happened.
In any event, it’s only August 15th so there’s absolutely no sense for either side to capitulate at this stage, but I wouldn’t completely write off the 2/45 even without ironclad assurances (although I’d push for more money to make up for that).
Then again, there’s also the risk the Warriors don’t trade him at all, and between that and the non-zero risk of any trade assurances going out the window, that of course makes the QO potentially worth it.
Shea, You’ll probably think I’m a crank for saying this, but the Warriors already have a reputation for not being straight with players. ( I’m reluctant to get into it because it’ll start a firestorm on this site, but the narrative HAS been all over the ex-NBA player podcast world. Marcus Thompson wrote about it in his book about KD.) In case you didn’t notice, we don’t do well attracting free agents, at any level. That may surprise because Steph is obviously super-virtuous. But the narrative is that if you’re not Draymond or Steph, you don’t matter very much.
Yes, the organization itself is professionally run and cares for players. But the locker-room is another story.
No, that’s fair. You’re obviously more knowledge on that subject and the Warriors in general than I am. I’ll take your word for it, in which case that QO starts to look a whole lot better, especially since I doubt the team would give Kuminga a good enough partial no-trade clause (if one at all).
I guess I’m a bit spoiled as a Spurs fan, as the Spurs generally pride themselves on doing right by their guys. No idea if that’ll change once Pop is gone, though. Hope not.
Ah, a Spurs fan! That explains a lot.
The study in contrast between the Popovich-Spurs and Kerr- Warriors stories fascinates me. IMO, both teams owe their extended succces (obviously, the Spurs went longer) to a small number of people with exceptional character. But the dynamics of the organizations (players-coach-ownership) are completely different. That would be a very fun conversation…
I am sure there is other examples however has any team mismanaged their young players worse than the Warriors over this run?
Kuminga has been mismanaged but that is one case. Who else have they mismanaged? Wiseman was terrible. Moody is just a guy. The Poole mess was not really of their making and they had to chose Draymond over Poole to keep Steph happy.
@Graymond, IMO, it’s not so much “mismanage” as it is a reflection of the way the team has chosen to operate. More than any team in the league, the Warrios have invest a disproportionate number of resources (on the court and in salary) into a small number of players — Steph, KD (when he was here), Butler, and Draymond.
It’s not just the young players that take a distant back seat. It’s also the role players and free agents. If you look over the last 12 years, you’ll see we have the highest “turnover” year-to-year, and have usually struggled mightily to land free-agents.
Start with the money. Salary-wise, Steph is the #1, highest-paid the league, Butler is 4th. Steph, Butler, and Draymond will cost $145M/yr for the next 2 seasons. That doesn’t leave much for the rest of the team.
Then, think about the system. Everything goes to optimizing Steph, and, now, Jimmy, with Draymond the key enabling piece. Kerr has never liked using young players because they struggle to subordinate themselves to that reality. You can say all of our draft picks suck, but no team plays its draft picks less under any conditions.
Kerr couldn’t care less about the critics saying he “mismanages” young players so long as he wins.
We can only look at the numbers. No team has gotten less from the draft and young players than the Warriors. It’s startling.
1. From the 2013 draft onward, GSW has drafted only 2 starters: Looney (sort of) and Podziemski. Needless to say, that’s the worst in the league.
2. The average NBA 1st round pick is retained by the team that drafted him for 55 months (~5.5 years). Since 2013, excluding Looney, GSW has yet to retain a 1st round picks for more than 4 seasons.
– Brandin Podziemski: 2 seasons (to date)
– Patrick Baldwin: 12 months
– Jonathan Kuminga: 4 seasons (to date)
– Moses Moodey: 4 seasons (to date)
– James Wiseman: 28 months
– Jordan Poole: 48 months
– Jacob Evans: 12 months
– Damian Jones: 36 months
3. Since 2013, the Warriors have had only ONE 2nd round pick, Gui Santos, stay with the organization for more than 2 years. (Sorry, Alex Toohey.)
4. Since 2013, only 2 GSW players, Poole and Moody, have signed rookie extensions. No other NBA team has less than 6 over that period.
5. Since 2013, GSW has placed in the bottom 5 NBA teams in the number of minutes played by their rookie draft picks (1st and 2nd round combined).
6. Since 2013, other than Brandon Podziemski, GSW has never received a meaningful contribution from a drafted player in their first 2 seasons in the league.
GSW may not know how to pick ’em, but they also don’t like to play ’em.
…and 4 chips over that period
while passing over all-star after all-star…Steph Curry really is the GOAT. No help from Kerr or the FO.
@aristotle
Yup, Steve Kerr sure straight up does not do a competent job of an extremely important part of his job! But sure, it’s everyone else’s fault. When will we all learn Kerr is legit bad at his job? Name anything he does well? Cant keep a locker room safe or away from controversy. Mr “Half days every day”. Replace Kerr with Andre right now and Curry will win 3+ more rings.
@MichaelSaunders, “that period” ended > 3 years ago.
We’re including up to the present, and to the future.
Great franchises look forward. And so do their fans.
Kerr is the past, Andre Iguodala is the future – I WANT IGUODALA!
Davey keeps repeating Andre Iguodala as a coach in the NBA.
If you listen to Andre talk, you will know that he is anti-establishment to a certain degree. He would never work for an owner of an NBA team and he is somewhat embittered towards how the league operates as a whole.
I mean look at Kuminga and look at Andre. Same tools, same type. He is the perfect HC for this era of GSW, Kerr is a relic who deserves to be replaced for being outright bad at his job from 2023-present.
This is totally ridiculous. You always take the money.
It’s 8 million or it’s 22 1/2 million, possibly 45 million.
Anybody with a brain takes the 22 1/2 million over the 8 million.
You just be the best player you’re capable of being in either case and let the chips fall where they may.
I don’t care if I get traded to Siberia. Take the money every time. You’ll be a free agent in two summers. You’re fighting to be a free agent next summer with the 8 million and you’re worried about waiting one extra year and giving up almost $40 million?
Even if it’s not a situation or coach where you think you can succeed…, there’s plenty of guys where the talent is recognized yet under utilized and other teams see this.
Either a player is great or he isn’t. Sure there’s teams that aren’t able to cash in on a certain player’s strengths but the word on the street is league wide. He’s a player or he’s not.
Gary, did you have an extra coffee this morning? Maybe we should focus on the Sox for a few weeks? I’m liking their chances this season. Also, do you follow the NFL? Peace be with you.
Sox are looking good. They just need to win two out of three against the good teams as well.
NFL? No thanks.
The coffee is very strong here in Montreal. Had 2 cups this morning !!
Have fun. Montreal is awesome. They know how to enjoy life, don’t they?
How can Davey read my comment, and reply to my comment, and then quickly mute me again, so I can’t reply to him?
Very Strange fellow, I would say.
Hi Gary, I have not had you muted all week. My posts are taking hours to show up on here. No idea why. Aristotle and I have always had this odd issue where neither of us muted each other but we cannot reply to each other. I unmuted almost everyone on my mute list (although I did re-add the clowns who can never reply to me without abusing, that isn’t you though – you are currently not muted by me)
OK Davey sounds good. Thanks for un-muting me lol.
But I still can’t reply to you. But that’s fine no big deal.., mute, unmute, whatever you choose.
I show as “muted” right now. I guess it’s not so easily rescinded or retracted.
Anyone with a brain can see as long as Kuminga is playing under that hack Steve Kerr, he will not get the development he needs and deserves after showing some elite tools (quick first step, driving the lane etc). Kerr will play Toohey over Kuminga if Kuminga takes the 2 years, and Kuminga wants to reach his ceiling as fast as possible.
Kerr has been nothing but a hindrance to Kuminga’s development. You simply do not play Anthony Lamb over Jonathan Kuminga for any reason at all. Fire Steve Kerr.