After the Warriors fell below .500 on Sunday as a result of a 136-131 loss in Portland, head coach Steve Kerr took the blame for the loss and the 13-14 club’s recent struggles, writes ESPN’s Anthony Slater.
“I’m not doing my job well this year,” Kerr told reporters.
Stephen Curry scored 48 points in the loss, his second-highest total of the season. However, Golden State’s offense has struggled badly when the two-time MVP isn’t on the floor. The team has scored 118.8 points per 100 possessions when Curry is in the game, compared to just 107.1 when he’s not. The latter mark would be equivalent to the worst offense in the NBA.
As Slater notes, Kerr singled out one sequence in Sunday’s game when Curry wasn’t on the floor and star swingman Jimmy Butler didn’t touch the ball for four consecutive possessions.
“That’s on me,” Kerr said. “But that’s also on our players to understand. I can’t call a play every time. Nor do I want to. We have to find a way in collaboration to make sure we are playing through Jimmy.”
Here’s more on the Warriors:
- Nick Friedell of The Athletic suggests that the Warriors need more aggression from Butler, whose 11.4 shot attempts per game this season are well below the 14.5 per game he averaged from 2014-24. Draymond Green didn’t disagree with that sentiment, though he also suggested he needs to do more to get Butler involved in the offense. “I think I got to do a better job of knowing, paying attention to the flow of the game, when he hasn’t touched the ball.” Green said. “When he hasn’t touched the ball for multiple possessions, getting him a touch and making sure he’s in the flow. … And then, as I do a better job of that, I also need Jimmy to be more aggressive and demonstrative and go take the ball. Or come get the ball. And say exactly where he want the ball.”
- As Alex Simon of SFGate.com writes, a Warriors fan who wrote an email to Joe Lacob to express his frustrations with the team and with Golden State’s usage of Butler got a candid and near-instant response from the team owner. “You can’t be as frustrated as me,” Lacob wrote in his reply to the fan. “I am working on it. It’s complicated. Style of play. Coaches desires regarding players. League trends. Jimmy is not the problem.” Asked on Tuesday about the leaked email, Kerr indicated he wasn’t bothered by Lacob’s reference to “coaches’ desires regarding players,” according to Slater. “Not a big deal,” Kerr said. “… We’re all frustrated. Joe is frustrated. I’m frustrated. Steph and (Green), everybody’s frustrated. … Joe supports me 100 percent. I support him. We have a great connection. We’ve had so much continuity here. Our stable environment in our organization is one of our strengths.”
- Seeking more continuity, Kerr said on Tuesday that he intends to keep using his current starting lineup – Curry, Butler, Green, Moses Moody, and Quinten Post – for the foreseeable future, barring an injury, tweets Slater.
- The health issue that has sidelined Al Horford for eight of the past nine games (right sciatic nerve irritation) has healed, Kerr said on Tuesday. The veteran big man is still considered doubtful to play on Thursday vs. Phoenix, but he’s nearing a return (Twitter link via Slater).
- Two-way player Pat Spencer will miss Thursday’s game for personal reasons, as Marc Stein tweets. Spencer has been active for each of Golden State’s 27 games so far and is already more than halfway to his 50-game limit. Any game he misses will give the Warriors a little extra time later in the season to convert him to a standard contract in order to keep him active.
Curry might win the scoring title this year he’s healthy. I don’t see another person on that team averaging 20 PPG for the entire year. Passive Jimmy will show up more often than not.
These are the facts: Curry is putting up numbers very close to his 2021 season, the one he should have won MVP for. He is still right in the middle of his prime, he is not slowing down at all. He will be on the Warriors for many years to come, and none of them will be official “rebuild” years. GSW would be 20-7 right now if Kerr was not the coach. These are the facts.
@daveyj, yes, Steph is still playing like a top 10 offensive player (not top 3, he is slowing down, and he’s no longer in his prime… but that’s another discussion).
But the problem is Steph’s *availability*. At 37 he’s missing more games, and playing fewer minutes per game. And injury risk is higher (he missed the last playoff series). That makes it much harder for Dunleavey | Lacob to pull the trigger on a big move.
Nope, he’s top 3, easily. Better than Luka.
Way too high. Curry is no longer in his prime and will be retiring sooner rather later. Facts
> Nope, he’s top 3, easily. Better than Luka.
@daveyJ, Steph my favorite, a Top 10 all-time, but no way on Top 3 now because:
1. Even if Top 3 offensively, he’s now a negative defensively.
2. You can’t be a Top 3 player, much less an MVP candidate, if you miss 1/3 of your team’s games.
Check the stats of every Warriors player with Steph on-court vs off and tell me he’s not the most valuable player in the entire league. He literally makes everyone better.
1. Steph is -not- a negative defensively, its December, he gets better as the year goes on.
2. Embiid played 66 games in his MVP season.
There is only one problem
Compare
Spurs draft
Wemby
Castle
Harper
Warriors have 3 lottery picks for the past 12 years
Wiseman
Kuminga
Moody
Warriors need only one thing: Championship Material
Kuminga and Moody are good players. Not their fault Kerr is stupid and bad at his job.
Kuminga literally leads the team in rebounds. Kerr is currently DNPing him for no reason at all.
If Pelicans asking price is
Kuminga, Brandin Podziemski and an unprotected 2026 first-round pick for Murphy. ……That is what I heard
Would you do it?
what else is coming over in the trade>? If they throw in metkovic I would do it.
I think Kuminga can get Giannis or Zubac or Booker.
If those 3 aren’t available, then yeah definitely.
GSW could also fire Kerr and get all these guys ducking playing for him interested in playing alongside Curry, like Harrison Barnes and players of that ilk.
Wiseman was a need at the time, they didn’t want LaMelo bc he played the same position as Steph. Wiseman just couldn’t stay healthy. That was the issue.
Kuminga – By all accounts leading up to draft day, he was a top 5 prospect. He played G League ball, and had NBA ready size body. He was sandwiched between Giddey and Wagner. Problem is he is TJ Warren reincarnated. That’s who he was, has been and will continue to me elsewhere.
Moody – Good size and stroke, Kispert and Senguin/Trey Murphy III went the next three picks, could’ve been worse Chris Duarte was the pick before him and he’s out of the league right now.
My point is, you win some you lose some, especially when you are drafting in the mid teens. What you cannot do is miss out on a top 3 pick and expect to continue to sustain winning. Couple that with a few bad contracts that were/are on the roster and you see what has become the last legs of the steph curry era Warriors. Good enough to make playoffs, not good enough to be anything than a 1st round exit.
Middling analysis here mostly foiled by the last line: they made the 2nd round last year. They likely would have made the WCF had Curry not been injured and Kerr bothered to do his job and create non-Curry offenses, which he did not and has not.
Asking a coach to create offenses for an all time great superstar is hilarious. That’s like Phil asking Scottie or Kukoc to run the offense without MJ. Oh wait, that did actually happen in 1994.
It’s extremely complicated to run an offense without your best player who is likely an all time player, unless you have another player who can help offset his loss, which the Warriors did not last year, and they wouldn’t have beaten Wolves even if Steph was healthy.
Margin of losses against Minnesota in the Semifinals.
G2 – 24 – 117-93
G3 – 5 – 102-97 (Edwards triple double)
G4 – 7 – 117-110 (17-0 run in the 3rd quarter)
G5 – 11 – 121-110 (couldn’t stop Randle)
That’s 11.75 for margin of losses.
Let’s talk about that defense though, 115 points in 3 of those 4 losses. That’s not on the offense, that’s strictly on who was out there on the floor.
“Asking a coach to create offenses for an all time great superstar is hilarious.”
You misread my post, I said “non-Curry offenses” which is true. Kerr has never created one offense in the 2020s for when Steph is not there. Thus, they lose almost all those games he doesn’t play in.
If you can’t see that adding Curry to those Wolves playoffs games = Dubs sweeping the Wolves, I dont know what to tell you.
Is the is Kirk?
BTW, healthy Wiseman is available this very day.
Just curious, as a Bulls fan. What do you have against Jimmy.
He gave up on the team, one game he came out and blasted the Hoiberg and decided to shoot only like 4 times in 38 mins and recorded 4 points. He made it clear he is a quitter and is a front runner. After that, I never cared for him as a player or person. If you don’t believe me, look at his game log from his final year with us and how many shots he took after.
“I never cared for him as a player or person” – “Never cared for him as a person”? what did he do off the court, IRL, that makes you say that? Like, that’s the only conclusion we can come from this statement. Did he steal your girlfriend or something?
LOL I could ask you the same thing about Shai dude. I have my own personal opinion of Butler. Just because he’s a Warrior now doesn’t mean you need to defend the guy. Every single place he’s been at, he’s at problems with his coaches.
Hoiberg, Brown, Spoelstra (more Riley). The guy is a ticking time bomb, and will go after MDJ and Kerr soon enough.
Dubs have lost games just about every way possible, maybe except for the buzzer-beater heartbreak. Wait. Oh that’s riiiiiight……at Philly. What, with 0.9 seconds remaining they gave up the lead? Close enough – count it.
Dubs fired the GM, and that didn’t work. Dubs bring in star players, and that didn’t work—it seems obvious the coach is gassed and an overrated player averaging triple-single digits destroyed the dynasty.
Myers didnt get fired…..and the destroyer has 4 rings. do some research
You’r emissing the lbigger pitcure.. whatever mngt does, isn’t working for the HC. There’s a reason Kerr wasn’t asked back to Team USA and doesn’t have a contract extention.
Keep drinking milk!
Show me a ring Kerr won that did not involve him hitching his wagon to a top 10 all-timer?
they lost games that they would have easily won during their dynasty years. A championship team wins close games. Philly game they lost when letting Spencer throw the ball in. He is horrible at throwing the ball in. Kerr lost about 4 games on his bad coaching by puting in the wrong players in certain situations. Please do not throw the ball into Curry if you are trying to tie the game because he is always double and triple teamed.
Kerr playing Podz, Buddy and GP2 too much and in clutch times too. Oftentimes together at once. Small ball is dead, Kerr refuses to believe it. Just play Moses and Steph together as the guards, with Jimmy, Gui or Kuminga -only- at the 3.
DO NOT PLAY GUARDS AT THE SF POSITION, STEVE. FORWARDS ONLY!
These guys are ONLY shooting guards, they are not small forwards:
Moody, Podziemski, Payton, Seth, Buddy, Richard
The ONLY guys who should be playing point guard:
Steph, Pat, Melton – maybe Podz if there are injuries, ideally Richard would be developed as a PG too, Seth in a pinch as well. Melton and Steph can also play at SG. Pat is a pure PG.
The ONLY guys who should be playing small forward:
Jimmy, Gui, Kuminga, Green. Dray can also play as a big, so can Kuminga. Gui and Jimmy play their best as the 3.
If Kerr just keeps these as his concrete options, GSW will stop losing because a lineup with 4 shooting guards went -20 in 6 minutes. I cannot believe I have to say this out loud…it’s like, Kerr’s mind might be going, for real. This is basic, entry-level stuff that his prior title-winning teams all followed. He literally has always tried to shoehorn in smallball, but because it never plays defense he stopped. But he isn’t stopping despite it not working, he is in vacation mode.
Sounds like the warriors will not be offering Kerr an extension unless he gets the warriors deep into the playoffs. Does sound like Lacob wants to go another way with the team. A lot of inner fighting within the warriors team.
Actually, they have already offered him a contract. He just hasn’t signed it.
they might be pulling the contract back now
Thats what they said about Myers too.
Excellent observation on a lot of inner fightimg. It’s way way too much. Our culture of excellence and winning is dying out unfortunately. It’s complicated layers but for sure Kerr is having issues with young players. It doesnt matter who’s wrong or right. They are beginning to mot respond to him for some reason. There’s discommect om the team. Maybe it was the Poole punch. Poole was close to all the young players on the team like Kuminga, Moody, Rollins, Balddwin as well as vets lile Looney, Wiggins, amd Donte. There’s definitely negativity on the team. Maybe it‘s vets vs youth, but Kerr is not able to relate to high picks. That’s a sign that he might want to retire.
“It’s complicated layers but for sure Kerr is having issues with young players.”
When it came out that is was Kerr who caused Poole to say that to Dray, who then punched him – right then and there Kerr should have been fired for losing the locker room. Instead he went “Mr. Half Days” and never talked to his players and refused to schedule practices…just really incompetence is what Kerr is.
Speaking of the Warriors roster needs.., the Grizzlies spanked the Clippers hard the other night.
Hmm.., Jaren Jackson Jr, Griz “BIG MAN” went off for 31 pts, 13-18 fg, and 4-5 3pt.
Hmm…, the Clippers amazing defender and rim protector, the third Lopez brother, had his usual role…,
“DNP Lopez.”
Yes, that’s exactly the guy the Warriors should target in trade !!
Genius idea from some “who know Hoops better than crybaby Golden State fans” .., especially some who “know everything about big men.”
And people wonder why their so-called wonderful ideas are never seen in real life.
Would the Clippers take Heild for Lopez is the problem. He is the only player that has that has matching money value? Only other way is Moody for Lopez and Christie.
#1, Lopez would do nothing for the Warriors. I said it last summer, he’s done, he’s finished. It’s over.
He’s a statue on defense. He can’t move defensively in the pick and roll.
You see how Looney lost weight to be a better pick and roll defender.., can you imagine a guy 7 feet and 300 pounds?
As I mentioned above, JJ Junior went off for a bunch of points and made almost every shot he took, yet the player people think is such a great defender never got off the bench for the Clippers?
Secondly, I don’t think anyone wants Buddy Hield. He was a streak shooter for most of his career, but it seems like he’s lost the ability to get hot enough to help a team.
Moses Moody sucks.
He has negative value. He’s an end of the bench guy with the Warriors and he’ll be an end of the bench guy with any new team.
Moses Moody started every game of the 24-8 run.
Brandin Podzeimski sucks. Like, he is the worst player on the team by a million miles. Does nothing. Low ceiling. Low IQ. Moody is 100000x the player Podziemski is. This is fact. You don’t know ball if you think otherwise. No one agrees with you, Gary. You are just running this Moody hate campaign on here because I said I liked his game more than Podz. Ever since you say this idiotic crap “Moses Moody sucks.” That’s true of Podz.
Moody’s problem is he is inconsistent on offense. Also needs to rebound and be agressive on the boards.
Not disagreeing with you but that is one of teh warriors problems they have about nothing to offer up in a trade. You might get a little value out of Kuminga but the only thing left is 1st round picks but those are highly valuable in teh future of the team.
Yes, I’m also not writing to disagree. Just giving my viewpoint and two cents. It’s worth what you paid for it lol.
i think there are too many warrior fans refusing to see that this year its impossible for them to win a top 6 spot. The teams is too thin on the bench with small players and will never beat a big young athletic team.
Yes, agreed. Won’t be able to crack the top six in seeding, but practically impossible for them to miss the playoffs.
If you look at the teams after the six, most of them are tanking.
The wildcard is the Phoenix Suns. Can’t quite figure them out right now.
Are they going for it, or are they destined to tank? I’m really not sure but if you look at the roster, it says they’re going for it.
Trading for Mark Williams, giving up first round pics for back up centers, and the roster is full of veterans.
But who knows? Just another team we’ll see what happens at the trade deadline.
I think they should have the exact same plan as the Warriors. .500 means go for it, and 10 games under means sell everything and start over.
they don’t need a offensive big man or wing but somebody that can rebound and play defense. It was hard watching last game seeing Portland drive and get Post out of the key and just go around players. Green has lost a step with age. too many slow guards in Podz and Spencer letting young players fly by them.
Yeah, the roster is just completely flawed atm. Unfortunately, the FO was never able to get a decent center that was similar to Bogut (defensive minded, great passer, etc.).
And looking back, I think they should’ve traded Dray when they had a chance. As much as he brought to the franchise, his inability to score has really hamstrung the team and Kerr probably would’ve needed to tweak his system to make up for losing Dray.
That said, from the dark, dark days before they won the 4 rings, everything after has just been gravy and since they didn’t hit on their draft picks (Wiseman and JK being the huge misses), they probably will need to blow it up at some point in a year or two.
Sadly, does that mean Steph moving to another team? I really hope not since I love watching him play.
Steph is the reason why GSW is the #1 most valuable NBA franchise, there is zero scenario he plays on another team unless he retires and then comes back somewhere else, like MJ did. Steph will likely co-own the Warriors after he retires many years from now though.
This is the same team and offense since the last title. Like I been saying for over a year now. Kerr still thinks this is best offense with a star like Curry. Jimmy is a great player. He is not a shooter like Clay was that yr. He is obsessed with recreating that team. And Kuminga is just not built for that system.
The system must change and Kerr refuses and just keeps doubling down playing 4 SGs at once.
Speak the truth arc!
I blame Kuminga for being a trash can.
And moody and podz. These draft picks keep getting playing time they wouldn’t have most other places.
I keep saying it, but this has to be the plan. It just has to be.
At the trading deadline, if the Warriors are at least .500, they go for it. They must try to bring in seasoned contributors to a playoff team. Improve their chances at winning. Might be a big fish, might be two rotation guys, who knows. But they will go for it.
If the Warriors are 10 games under .500, they need to sell and sell everything.
Sell sell sell. Greymond, Butler, Horford, everyone who’s name doesn’t begin with a C.
They need to start over, get a first round pick from somewhere if they can, and or receive young bodies from somewhere.
This has to be the plan and if it’s not, I’ll be just as disappointed and negative as half the commenters here.
They have to do the necessary thing. They just have to.
I would say it’s more about where they are in the standings than anything else. At this usage rate Steph will miss more games this year. I would build that into your win/loss prediction model.
Because of the history and the names on the roster, in just about any other situation, losing to the blazers but putting up 40 plus points… people would view the team and their situation as non competitive and wholly dependent on one guy. Like booker in phx a few years ago or grimes on Philly last year. Those were bad, non-playoff teams.
Jimmy is doing exactly as he has done a minimum of 3 other times in his career, pout and refuse to shoot. Everyone outside the Warriors sandbox knew it was only a matter of when. Who wants that giant variable on their squad? Is he even worth anything in a trade? I’d say he’s neutral money in a best case scenario, worst case, you’re probably attaching assets to him.
So who else has value? Not Draymond, and no one else wants his baggage. Not Kuminga. Not Hield. Not Horford. Post is building value. Moody no. Podz sure, but only because he is on a rookie contract. Melton ok. So what does Post and Melton get you on the open market? I’d say very little. You going to attach picks from your team that’s already a sinking ship? Seems unwise.
That leaves one man left…
I would not trade Post because a big man that can hit 3s and plays good defense is hard to find. Melton is on a cheap contract so you need him to win. So as you mentioned there is nothing they can do but sink or swim. Trading draft picks should be a no answer since they will need those picks very soon.
I agree … Melton and Post are must keeps.
You make good points as usual Druu, but I’ll disagree with the return on some of the guys you mentioned.
If Dillon Brooks can bring back players of value then so can Greymond.
He can still defend 4 positions on the floor and do it very well. Plus, he’s unselfish. He doesn’t need the ball in his hands to produce.
Horford is playoff tested and valuable. You’re probably right about Butler because of his contract, but there’s only one more year on it and a team needing that guy may find him attractive for a year.
The Young guys, you have to probably package together and sell as reasonable contracts, guys with promise, hard workers, good attitudes.
Same with a couple of the vets like Payton and Melton. Good players, locker room assets, great on defense and don’t need the ball to produce on the floor.
So my bias of course tells me that if they sell, they should be able to attain some value back for these guys.
Here is the problem with many warrior fan’s thinking that they need to bring in another high price allstar. You can’t win with all high price players because you need a bench too. Warriors are getting beat because there is no size but Post or always injured Harford. They need big wings and young athletic players to win. they need to put everyone on the trading blocks but Curry.
We’ll give you Dalon Terry.
he is too short to make a difference. Warriors need 6 8 and above.
Fine, we’ll let you take Patrick Williams, for the love of what’s good in basketball and in life, please f-in take him.. Give us a signed basketball from Curry that Jerry can eventually raffle off for Bulls tickets next decade upon his induction into the HOF.
:-)
Bulls are in the same spot as the warriors needing big men that can protect the rim..
I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU ARE THE IN SAME SPOT AS US (yes caps lock was needed)….lmao
You are a good guy Arc, and enjoy speaking ball with you always but no, we’re awful lmao I’ve been a fan since “the shot” in 89 and this is as lowest as I have ever felt in terms morale and spirit. I won’t say anything positive about my team until further notice.
they are the same in the rebuild is near. I must think White is traded at the trade deadline and ciould bring back some vlaue to the Bulls. Vuc may bring back a late round 1st rounder but more like a 2nd round pick. the Bulls has cap space for next year that they should not add a long contract at trade deadline.
Bulls having cap space worries me. If a front office cannot draft wisely to start with, has $70M to play with in free agency in an average free agency class, I am petrified on who they will sign in the offseason. I’m thinking Julius Randle. God help me.
I agree with Vu bringing a late 1st rounder, looking at the order on tank, NYK Detroit would be logical fits for him. Lakers always wanted him as well. It’ll be interesting. As for White, I’m thinking they’ll resign him, and let Ayo walk. They have to choose between Ayo/Coby bc of the Jones/Giddey PG tandem on the roster. Maybe give Orlando Coby for Issac? Salaries match. Problem is we don’t have a 2nd rounder of our this year. Lmao
That is another problem for the warriors they traded away all their 2nd round picks. They should offer up TJD for a 2nd round pick and see if somebody bites.
Bulls should sign Ayo and trade White. White is poor on defense. Ayo will cost less to sign and with White you can get assets back in a trade.
Ayo will get Derrick White money. Problem is, you need a Tatum/Brown type guy on that roster to get away giving him $30M, and we don’t have that guy on this roster.
Ayo is not a 20 point a game guy so more around $15 million a year. If a team offered Ayo $30 million a year they are not a good team at building a roster.
He’s not getting $15M, He made $7.5M this year, he’s getting closer to $20-25M.
OMG a rim protector !!!!! Like 2 yrs late.
I guess I do get thru ….
You aren’t wrong, arc.
That said, I have always said on here Lacob’s dream is Giannis-Jimmy-Steph, or Giannis-Steph+depth. The Lacob/Kerr split is new, but Lacob’s dream is not. Kerr refusing to understand Post and TJD are better than Podz is what is killing this team right now. I mean Podz is getting top 4 minutes on the team, as the worst player on the team. Why.
You are not getting Giannis without getting rid of Butler’s contract. problem is finding somebody to give you players Bucks want for Butler. TJD is a waste and should trade him for anything they can like a 2nd round pick. Don’t listen to warrior’s broadcasters because TJD is awful. That is another problem warrior broadcasters are homers never saying the truth about warrior players.
Giannis and Thainsis for Kuminga, Green, Buddy and Podz and 3 FRP is what works.
Honestly if that trade happens, I’d then do Jimmy+ 2 FRP-Booker with Phoenix. Phoenix was Jimmy’s preferred destination and Booker played well under Kerr on the Olympic team.
If we are going to go top heavy, Giannis-Steph-Booker fits the style more than Steph-Jimmy-Dray-Kuminga
Doesn’t work unless Giannis signs a 2 year extension because that is way too much for a rental player.
I would assume Giannis would sign a max extension to become the face of the Warriors, along with Steph.
never assume. He is the face of the Bucks and he is unhappy this year.
Butler is sUpEreLiTe /s
He’s on pace for a 5.0 VORP season. That is superelite. You don’t know ball.
Sure on a Warriors team that has a losing record of 13-14. Facts.
It’s December 17. Kerr has been openly losing winnable games on purpose by acting like he can only play guys under 6’5″ in the 4th quarter and 4 guards at once. You understand this team is a lot better without this handicap right? The most used rotation has a +19, so Kerr benched two of those guys in Kuminga and Richard. The good lineups are there, our 71 IQ’d coach is sabotaging the team. You don’t watch the games, if you did you would not be arguing here. Jimmy is having a great year, especially on defense, not his fault Kerr is literally playing Jimmy at center with 4 undersized SGs, that’s impossible to win with. Kerr has forgotten the point of games is to win, to him its to play as many SGs at once. Podz should never be getting top 4 mins per game. You dont know ball, silence
With how VaLuAbLe and sUpEreLiTe Butler is and how Curry is still in his pRiMe they should be better than this regardless of what Kerr does based on what your evaluations on both the players and coaches are but the team is nowhere near the bottom or the top of the standings.
Facts remain and by the end of the day, the Warriors are a losing team currently at 13-14 and not 20-7 like what you, “the great Davey J who is never wrong”, has proclaimed.
Funny though how no one VaLuEs Butler inspite of his supposed numbers that you are spewing out.
It appears your caps lock is broken, making these nonsense rants you are doing right now make even less sense. Self-own some more, why don’t you?
“Superelite” = 5+ VORP. There isn’t much more to say. You severely do not know a damn thing about NBA basketball.
“Facts remain and by the end of the day, the Warriors are a losing team currently at 13-14 and not 20-7 like what you, “the great Davey J who is never wrong”, has proclaimed.”
I said the Warriors would be 20-7 if Kerr was not coach. Like, you aren’t even close to understanding what I’m saying here. You must be a small child with little knowledge and experience. And yet, you still arrogantly act like you. Sucks. Be humble, be better.
Waive Seth Curry, Cryer and Santos
Promote Spencer, sign Wiseman and sign Santos to a two way contract
Develop Richard at PG
Santos is a lot more important and good at basketball than you think. He isn’t getting demoted like that.
He would keep his full contract plus more. He would be back on a standard contract next year if everything works out. It’s just for the remaining of this season. Spencer is producing more than Santos more than you think. Santos’s minutes have been under 10 per game this season. I’m only saying this to sign Wiseman. Why is Santos important?
They need to play Jackson-Davis at PF strictly
It’s over, but we won 4 titles in less than 10 years. If you told me that would happen back when we had vonteego Cummings and bimbo coles, I would have called APS on you. Enjoying every minute of curry’s remaining time and not worried one bit about wins or losses.
I was hoping Vonteego Cummings would be something. Bimbo Coles was never starter material
Don Nelson insisting on Chris Webber playing C might be their biggest mistake to date
Not a Warriors fan truly but I didn’t think this would happen back then too.
They could win one more but need to make the right moves
Yeah I’d say Draymond not knowing his place when it came to Kevin Durant probably cost you usurping the Bulls as the greatest NBA dynasty of all time. That big 3 plus Draymond could still be together today,
It definitely cost them a championship or more maybe
It was worth a try because it could’ve worked. Webber was that strong and that good even though he was only 6-10 maybe 6-9.
Nelson did Weber right in the beginning. Traded for Rony Siekley. But that wasn’t enough.
Head strong 21 year-old whose favorite player was Magic Johnson wanted to have the ball in his hands a little more often than a normal power forward would.
My biggest “what if” is the Warriors could’ve drafted one year earlier (or was it one year later,) and had Alonso Mourning play center for them for 15 years with that run TMC lineup.
Easy to say they could’ve won several rings but Nelson never did so it’s a big what if for sure. We don’t know if the Warriors, even loaded like that, could’ve been champions with Nelson as coach.
2022 was a fluke and has been a steep decline for the Warriors since then. Its only a matter of time that they are back where they belong, in the cellar of the NBA.
Only way for the the Warriors to be relevant post Curry is when Silver orchestrates a Luka like deal for them confirming that the league is rigged. Yep, that includes the 4 championships that they won were rigged.
“2022 was a fluke”
No title is a fluke, Curry is the GOAT and put the team on his back and has been doing that ever since. Its annoying how bad you are at basketball analysis. Just say “Curry owned my fave team and im big mad about it forever” and we can all just write you off as “one of those”. Are you a Clippers fan? lmao
Best case scenario for Warriors is to get a good deal for Kuminga. He is your best trade asset. Buddy should also be moved. He is just too inconsistent. Warriors need to add shooters. Thats what this offense needs. Curry has been the only consistent shooter.
If Bulls want to dump Willians. Warriors should take him. Kuminga and Hield FOR Coby and Williams. I even give them a future #1. Williams can backup Jimmy. He plays D and rebounds. He is also a career
40% 3pt shooter. They don’t want to pay Coby. He is the ballhandler/playmaker who can start with Steph. Coby is not shooting well this year. But is a career 37% 3pt shooter. He is perfect for Kerr system.
Coby is trash
You ought to know . You live in it.
Every day Kuminga loses more value. Players succeed in different systems for a reason. Finding that devalued player on other teams. Then finding value in Kerr system is what basketball is. And how to find true value in a Kuminga trade.
California will freeze like Antartica before Warriors ever get Giannis. Lmao
You have to delete your account when Giannis is in a Warriors jersey. Period.
Trade Kuminga and Heild for a good veteran SG and veteran C
KCP, Landale and two 1sts for Kuminga and Heild?
I did say that Jimmy’s joy-meter is like a ticking time bomb.
He will pout, seemingly content to just pass the ball and not even look at the basket.
5th highest salary for the year, y’all.
All of Chicago, Minnesota and Miami said it too. Oh yeah probably Philly too.
Jimmy is still putting up elite numbers, MVP-tier. You are wishcasting on how badly you want his time on GSW to end poorly. No idea why you hate players so vehemently. Jimmy is incredible defensively this year.
Jimmy has never sniffed an MVP and will continue that streak this year. I’m not sure how a guy does the same thing to four franchises and me and everyone else saying he’ll do it again is wishcasting? He set the expectation by quitting on his teams, not me, I just watched him do it every other place he has played.
Butler has “elite, MVP tier” numbers as per Davey but has only led the team to a 13-14 record. Empty numbers guy then.
MogaDoesNotKnowBall thinks NBA basketball is a 1-on-1 league. Just a 5 year old mind in an adults body. Gross. Get away from me, mute me, stay out of my mentions and my replies. You need to be listening, not learning.
5.0 VORP is superelite and MVP-tier no matter what arbitrary boundaries you want to put on it. Sorry, not sorry. So many of you drop everything to mindlessly hate on a guy, so weird. Jimmy has been fantastic at GSW despite the moron Kerr making him play center along with 4 shooting guards. Like, cmon. Get your act together, this isn’t real analysis. You are ignoring the elephant in the room, and its not Jimmy.
His vorp is not even in the top 10 as per basketball reference. Stop spewing delulu numbers Fraudster J
His VORP is 1.4 in 23 games, extrapolated over 82 = 5.0 or really close. Being he is Jimmy Butler and not Brandin Podziemski, he likely will improve as the season goes on.
Your over-emotional hatred of Jimmy is clouding your mind, you are coming off as the dumbest poster in the history of this place due to you not being able to handle your emotions. Jimmy Butler is awesome at basketball, Lacob is correct, he is NOT the problem.
@Druuu
“You are wishcasting on how badly you want his time on GSW to end poorly.” – that’s the quote, that is what you are doing. You WANT this to happen, it does not mean it will, at all. That is what wishcasting is.
^ If 19/5/5 are elite, MVP-tier stats for a guy making $54M this year …. then good for you and all Warriors fans.
OKC, DEN, HOU better watch out.
Its called superelite /s
@HoopsRumors – add @MogaBalls to the list of people who come in here strictly to reply to me.
So when am I getting paid for driving all this traffic? Apparently I live SO rent-free in many posters heads that they come running here to drop my name and my takes.
Jimmy Butler is a top 25 guy in the NBA whether you like it or not. Its just facts. Sorry your personal emotionally-driven hatred of him gets in the way for you. Skill issue on your end tbh
He needs a ring or two. That’s his calling card not his stats.
He needs to affect winning a lot more than he has so far in his career. Putting Miami on his back is not enough at 19 – 5–5.
5.0 VORP is elite level no matter what you say. I dont care about slash lines that don’t mean anything defensively.
No one has him at 5.0. as usual, your comment only contain details that are only factual in your delusional brain
As usual, your basic lack of knowledge means you do know what basketball-reference.com is, which is a shame, as this very site links you there. Sigh, here, once again, I will do all your work for you, as you truly are this stupid:
link to basketball-reference.com
2025-26 season: 1.4 VORP in 23 games = 5-ish over 80+ games.
Warriors still a losing team with “superelite” Butler and “still in his prime”, “Top3” Curry at 13-14. Facts
Butler has how many rings again? How about MVPs? Lets move the goal posts abit for you like you always do, Top3 MVP finishes? Superelite!
You are the only one moving the goalposts here. You have no argument at all. You have to resort to nonsense requests to make your argument, therefore you have lost the argument. I have owned you in every single one of your reply guy bullcrap on here.
Please, I beg of you, hold an L for once in your pathetic life.
1.4 / 23 x 82 = 4.99
And 13-14 is a losing record for the arriors. No W’s for you but here, take the L for superelite butler and still in his prime Curry, leaders of Loldenstate Arriors, Lavey L
Jimmy Butler:
-puts up elite numbers
-is being a model teammate
-has Lacob’s full support
…but posters on here say he stinks and is an awful person. Just admit you are racist and hate his hair or whatever crap, because that’s how you are all sounding. Pathetic. Be better.
Also Jimmy Butler
– Always has drama with his previous teams and demands a trade out of it. (Coming soon to the Arriors.)
– No MVP award.
– Not Superelite.
– No rings.
Fixed it for you. BTW these are facts.
Yawn. Enjoy your time in the shadowrealm…MUTED.
Take another L for your 13-15 Larriors