The Hawks‘ return for a four-time All-Star like Trae Young may look awfully modest, but a scout who spoke to Sam Amick of The Athletic suggests it may be equally difficult for other teams with defensively limited point guards to extract real value for them. That group includes the Grizzlies with Ja Morant and the Hornets with LaMelo Ball.
“Ja, Trae and LaMelo don’t have that much value because the game has changed around them,” that scout said.
According to Tim Bontemps and Brian Windhorst of ESPN, rival executives have conveyed a similar sentiment, pointing to Young’s maximum-salary contract and the league-wide depth at the point guard spot as reasons why they think Atlanta made out reasonably well in the deal. Conversely, some of those execs questioned the Wizards‘ decision to trade for Young.
“I know from a value proposition why you look at it,” an Eastern Conference scout said. “But if I’m the Wizards, just keep being bad, and stuff will figure itself out. I’m not sure why they felt the need to do this.”
“Offense is so easy now,” a Western Conference executive added. “One of the worst teams in the league can still easily put up 115 points in a game. … It’s hard for these small point guards to have real value with how the game is played now.”
We have more trade notes and rumors from around the NBA:
- While the Bucks have been connected to multiple Kings players, including Zach LaVine and Malik Monk, there were no active discussions between the two teams as of earlier this week, league sources tell Amick. Amick also confirms that the Bucks are among many teams believed to have interest in Nets forward Michael Porter Jr. and that they’ve conveyed interest in Anthony Davis, though they don’t appear to have a realistic path to a deal for the Mavericks big man.
- Checking in on the Jonathan Kuminga situation, Amick writes that the Kings are still widely viewed as the frontrunner to acquire the Warriors forward, but are no longer willing to offer the protected 2030 first-round pick that was on the table during the offseason, echoing a similar report from ESPN. Additionally, since Golden State has registered no real interest in Sacramento’s veterans, a third team may be necessary to make a deal that gets Kuminga to the Kings, Amick adds.
- ESPN’s Kevin Pelton and Zach Kram suggest six hypothetical trades they think make sense for all involved parties, with cap expert Bobby Marks analyzing each proposal. Their ideas range from bigger moves like the Bucks getting Porter or the Warriors landing Trey Murphy III to more minor deals like the Raptors acquiring Brook Lopez.
Jan 15th can’t get here fast enough so there will be no more Kuminga rumors. The Kuminga drama is getting tiresome like an episode of real housewives which you want to just go away.
Warriors fans 😳🥲🥲😩😭😭 ….. on here.
much worse than any reality show. Like the Kardwarriors.
Al you have control issues because all you do is attack the warriors and their fans. Just grow up and stay on the knicks page
Yeah thats all I do ……. Kleenex are on the way.
Go look up Raynaud life story. Learn what you missed on. Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody all misses. Warriors future is as good as your responses.
Al why do you pander for attention? What is realy going on in your life?
Gee why so concerned. You think you know me cause I rag on Warriors fans. Why don’t you look at what you post about Kuminga. Or about posters who are critical of Warriors. Why is this personal for you. Posters rag on Knicks all the time. I don’t talk about their personal lives. I criticize their game on basketball. You attack personally cause you got no game. That’s what wagoneers do.
You have a problem. You are obsessed with warriors and their fans.
Yeah you got me ….. shhhhh
I don’t forget anything lol. All about balling for me.
can you not comment on teh warriors for even a day? is that possible. If not you have a huge problem. Now I set the clock….
I commend on most news of the day. Warriors are in a lot of rumors. I liked Raynaud for them. I like Al. I have always liked Kuminga since the draft. I was hoping Knicks would trade up for Kuminga.
I don’t comment on anything else. Except to your attacks and Warriors babies who can’t handle real talk. My response has always been about thise topics. Like 90%. The real question is why all you bad mouth those players. I would never be here.
I need your permission now. It’s tragic really. I only follow one team and NBA second. Yet I probably know Warriors better than you. That’s what you have taught me …
Geez…Get over it.
Don’t you keep whining that the Warriors need a rim protecting center? Raynaud is weak defensively. Post is not. He is getting better. There would have been no room for him on the roster as a weak defensive center.
If the league were in live with Kuminga as you are, why no offers? The Nets could have signed him last summer without giving up anything. Hell, they probably could of still traded for MPJ. But, they didn’t. The Kings don’t want to offer an unprotected 1st anymore.
yep that is weird somebody who hates the warriors and their fans claiming some rookie center is their golden child. Wouldn’t Raynaud be needed by the Knicks mor ethan the warriors?
Kings never offered an unprotected 1st rounder. The 1st round pick they offered was the least favorable 1st round pick between teh kings and the spurs pick. How young and top 4 the spurs will be in 2 years that would be a pick about 25th at best that year.
Really thats what you got. I have been saying a rim protector since the last title.
What does Raynaud have to do with rim protectors. You are already judging a guy who is in his first year. This is exactly my point about all of you. Don’t you care about your team. Why wouldn’t you want Raynaud. He was your pick. He is now playing like best center in draft. Why wouldn’t you want that on a team that needs size. You can’t be this foolish. What does me liking him. Have to do with what Warriors need.
The internet has many stories of Warriors passing on Raynaud. You should be thankful I called it first. He was predicting to go late first rd. He played in Warriors backyard. Any knowledgeable basketball person would question the Warriors. Yet you clowns insult me. I gave you like 20 URL to look up. Go insult them too.
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Al can you understand that Raynaud is nothing more than a back up center that doesn’t help the warriors. They need a big body center that can’t be pushed around under the basket and set screens. Post is much better center and has the same body so they get worse at center not better.
Can I understand. Cause you say it.
You really want me to answer that.
Raynaud has played 29 games a rookie …. Just say you don’t know so you don’t want him. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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He plays 23.3 mins. And has BETTER stats than any Warrior Big ………. You enjoy clowning yourself.
Amazing how y’all do this. This is how you treated Kuminga too. It’s better to stay quite than to open your mouth and show your BRILLIANCE ….
The Kings thank you. I thank you. Kuminga thanks you. And Raynaud thanks you…… merci beaucoup
Why would you care if he plays on a team that you hate? That doesn’t make sense.
Raynaud plays 23 mpg because they don’t have anyone else.
What does that even mean. He has better stats than any Warrior big. And should be in a Warriors uniform. He’s a rookie doing this. Unreal
Having both. Two players they get worse. OK.
You said over and over that the Warriors needed 7 foot tall rim protecting center. Raynaud, in his 4 years at Stanford, didn’t learn to play defense. He was considered soft coming out of college.
On the other hand, Post earned 1st team defense honors coming out of the ACC. The ACC is obviously a much tougher conference then the former PAC12. Post is continuing to get better.
So, why would they need Raynaud? What does he give them that they don’t already have in Post.
what is Al man crush on Raynaud? I watched him the other night and he was just another guy on the court. So according to Al tonight Raynaud will block 10 shots, 20 rebounds, 30 points and hit the buzzer beater at the end of the game.
Moody is definitely not a miss. Kuminga isn’t either. Kerr sabotages the Warriors, period. Any other coach simply plays both at the SG and SF. Kerr played 2way guys like Anthony Lamb over both. Malpractice that Kerr should have been fired for on the spot.
Kardwarriors.. nice one. Meanwhile you’re a Knicks fan lol gotta feel bad for you. How’s it going with KAT having basically his worst season of his career ? You’re probably coping hard. Probably kissing a poster of Brunson on your wall like please save us daddy. Too bad your 6’ point guard can’t do anything to actually make your team a contender.
No reason to panic till Feb 5. Then the playoffs. New coach new bench. Knicks still finding their way. Stay top 4 till playoffs. I’m good. All about the playoffs this year.
The new super bold orange headlines look s horrible on desktop.
Warriors fan huh
This is an NBA executive talking OK ——-
“ Offense is so easy now,” a Western Conference executive added. “One of the worst teams in the league can still easily put up 115 points in a game. … It’s hard for these small point guards to have real value with how the game is played now.”
Jalen Brunson is the most clutch guy around. He is a top closer in the NBA. This game is not about scoring pts. It’s about winning games. And we wonder WHY teams suck for so long !!!!???? Guys like this running teams lols.
Trae will make them a playoff team. Maybe not this yr. Cause Wizards still want that lottery pick, top8 protected.
I totally agree. Same could be said about Doncic. If scoring was in fact easy for all teams wouldn’t that lessen the value of a defensive pg? The statement makes no sense. If Ja Trae and Lamelo figure out how to win big games by not just scoring but improving their whole team they will get paid.
Yeas and Trae took them to East Finals. I get you may not like his D. Offense he is a top dog. Imo he will show his game in Washington.
Mitch Robinson,Tyler Kolek >>>> to Pelicans
Looney, Bey >>>> to Knickerbockers ….
Towns. Looney, OG, Bridges, Brunson starting 5 ….
Hart to bench can still play 30 mins. Looney 18-24 mins. Hukporti backup C 16-20 mins.
Trade Yabusele for shooter, if you can.
Finally, People say what I’ve been saying for forever about scoring, and about certain style guards (though Lamelo has size, and can knock down shots, and is somewhat capable defensively at certain positions if he tries), in general. That being said, I thought that Trae Young to Washington trade was an incredible deal for Atlanta for multiple reasons, and was surprised they were able to do that much with it. They always seem to end up with one of those to take them a step forward, before then making some move at some point to go backwards, but I really like their current roster, if healthy, and used right
Washington used multiple high picks on scoring only undersized guards they dont need, so naturally it makes sense to trade for 1 making $50 million
Kuminga to the Kings would need a 3rd team b/c Keegan Murray has a poison pill contract, and both teams are hardcapped, which makes it difficult to match salaries
What is he worth? Freaking mystery.