Much of the discussion following the Knicks‘ loss to the Hawks in Game 2 revolved around coach Mike Brown‘s decisions regarding lineups and timeout usage. Asked ahead of Game 3 whether he’ll stick with his usual substitution patterns, Brown says he’s open to tweaking his rotation, Andrew Crane writes for the New York Post.
“Anything’s open to discussion offensively, defensively,” Brown said. “Maybe changing this defensively. Maybe changing that offensively. I’m comfortable with all of our guys playing, no matter who the five is out there.”
The Knicks’ players themselves say they’re fully confident in Brown’s adjustments, per Kristian Winfield of the New York Daily News, noting that it’s up to them to execute the game plan their coach lays out for them. Playing with pace and physicality are two points of emphasis among the coaching staff and the players.
“We [have to] get the ball faster, run on makes and misses,” said Jalen Brunson. “Just be who we are and don’t let things are not that important in this moment — it shouldn’t mean we’re not doing the things that we’re supposed to be doing.”
We have more Knicks notes:
- Karl-Anthony Towns took 12 shots in Game 2 and only two in the fourth quarter as the lead the Knicks had built slipped away. In a feature story for ESPN, Vincent Goodwill outlines how Brown and the coaching staff have struggled all season to maximize the star big man on offense but observes that it hasn’t impacted Towns’ desire to continue being a Knick. “He so badly wants things to work here,” a source close to Towns tells ESPN. “He wants to be a Knick for life.”
- Mitchell Robinson isn’t angry about the Hawks employing intentional fouls as a way to force him off the floor. He views it as a sign of respect, Winfield writes. “I mean, yeah, I feel like they want to get me off the court, so I know I’m threatening they ass and it be like that,” Robinson said. Despite being just 2-for-6 from the line through two games, Robinson believes that the work he puts in to practice his free throws will pay off in the end. “Sometimes, it go in; sometimes, it don’t,” he said. “Confidence still high, so still ready to go.” Brown is trying to figure out how to get the defensive-minded center more minutes, but he says it’s been difficult because the two-big lineups with Towns haven’t been effective so far this series, Ian Begley of SNY notes (via Twitter).
- The Knicks have praised Landry Shamet‘s plug-and-play ability all year, but he hit a rough patch towards the end of the season and hasn’t found a way to break out of it so far in the playoffs, Jared Schwartz writes for the New York Post. Shamet shot just 1-for-7 from the field over the first two games of the series, with six of those seven attempts from beyond the arc. The Knicks have struggled to find a stable ball-handler off the bench, as both Shamet and Miles McBride are more comfortable off the ball and have difficulty breaking down defenses off the dribble. Those two were supposed to be New York’s top guard depth, but neither has been able to get going, forcing Brown to turn to Jose Alvarado instead as a source of energy and ball-handling.

I’ve got a feeling we’ll see a heavy dose of Towns. Too obvious not to go to him. Alvarado needs to step up and run the second unit, Shamet will need to hit the pine, unfortunately he’s played himself off the court for now.
If this coach inew what he was doing. We should have seen a heavy dose of Towns. They have no bigs that can handle him. So the offense should go thru him not Brunson.
Towns — 7/12 FG
Brunson — 11/23 FG
Kuminga is killing the knicks in the 1st Q – 10 pts in 4 minutes on 4-4/2-2 shooting with 2 rebs
They say, when your only tool is a hammer, you define every problem as a nail. 2k’ers think coaching is about rotations and timeouts, so that must be the issue with the NYK. Truth is that both are usually irrelevant or close to that, and certainly were Monday night. We lost an 8 point lead with the starters back in, and we lost that lead long before our last possession.
Brown’s contribution to the loss was the way he’s coached this team from the preseason. Contrary to what I had hoped, his smug attitude about this team’s lack of grit and urgency all year wasn’t due to him having some switch he could flip for the playoffs.
Man they better wake up. This three point contest isn’t going to work. These bad starts lols.
Hows the knicks doing Richard?
Brown is cementing his fate. Should’ve not been the pick for coach but I guess running out of options didn’t help. Bring on Donovan.
Good lord, no Donovan!
This is a combo thing, Brown shouldn’t be the coach of this Knicks team, and KAT can’t/doesn’t want to fit into Brown’s systems.
And this is not a new thing for KAT. He couldn’t “figure out” Thibs defence or Finch’s systems. He would be the perfect 30 point a game guy on a lottery team, but he’s not the type of guy who puts in the effort or makes the winning plays to help a contender win a Chip.
Not sure I’d say Kat is the problem regarding the system. His percentages are good, but he’s down three shots per game. He should be focused on more plays more but Brown’s system isn’t meant for this ‘team.’ They are a half court team and Brown isn’t that coach. Top it off, he’s never been able to manage a game well. His player management around timing, his use of timeouts, etc. Great assistant, but that’s where it ends. He’s good at one or two things, but not accountability for a full team.
BD is tactical. He proved it in Florida – last college coach to win back to back until Hurley did it recently. Did it in OKC. Chicago was tough – wrong mix of players/talent and injuries never provided him with consistency. GM moves were bad.
I’d love to see them get Hurley or Todd Golden.
LMAO I love the New York Knicks.
Enjoy losing the lottery :)
His favorite player DirtyDra will be with him. Best defender in NBA.. so he claims
Yeah I claimed Draymond is my favorite player lmao.
Get a load of this guy making crap up now.
Hey Bridges still has another masterpiece left in him. KFC masterpiece with 8 wings for $9.99 bc he can’t get past double digits.
No one makes up better than you lol. Go chk the lottery balls. Only balls you know or got
Enjoy losing the first round to a 6 seed.
53 years and counting. :)
Yeah ad the difference is on sjj HoopsRumors posts.
I’m always a Knicks fan. Even when I’m criticizing.
You have to be the most miserable fan in here. Trashing everything Bulls do. Trashing the players. The only player you have trashed yet is Buzelis. A d we still got time for that. You are top 5 negative poster on here. That’s you 🤡👀.
The dumbest shhh anyone can do is bring up history. I live for tmr. Plenty of criticism for todays team. Only you can’t explain it. I grew up with Ewing Knicks. I read all the time. That’s called wanting knowledge. What do you want 🤡.
When are people gonna realize how overrated Jalen Brunson is? He dominates the ball, doesn’t trust his teammates is undersized and fails as often as he succeeds in his heroics. Knicks will never win while he’s their number 1.
I hope Brown is fired once we lost in the first round after giving away the last two games and then Dolan and Rose go get Donovan.
This. And they do have interest in him but Chicago prevented them from talking to him before the season when they were looking. Can always keep Brown on as a scout or assistant.
Firing Thibs was typical Dolan Knicks-Sabotage. And the coaching in this series and all season shows how absolutely stupid a move it was. Especially replacing him with a mid at best coach in Brown.
Thibs is a mid coach himself.
No he’s not. Thibs builds a culture that this team has relied on. They had a resilience under him they don’t have now. He’s clearly a better coach than mid guys like Brown.
Thibs wasn’t a Top 10 coach at any point of his Knicks tenure. That is mid by definition.
His culture has a short shelf-life, he doesn’t manage his bench, doesn’t develop players, his offense is stale, and he’s not particularly exceptional tactically.
He also doesn’t utilize his assistants or delegate well. His coaching methods are dated compared to how a modern staff runs.
That’s word salad.
That makes no sense. The coach that took the team to the ECF’s for the first time in 25 years is not a mid coach. This team was a ton more prepared and in shape under him.
You can think that if you want but you’re wrong. He’s light years better than Brown.
“That makes no sense. The coach that took the team to the ECF’s for the first time in 25 years is not a mid coach. ”
Just because Thibs has had more success than the other sad sacks who’ve coached the Knicks in the last 25 years, doesn’t make him a top tier coach.
Mike Brown’s Knicks won just as many games as Thibs’ did. There is evidently a wee bit more to coaching than the end result.
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“You can think that if you want but you’re wrong. He’s light years better than Brown.”
You are more than welcome to rank all of last season’s coaches and see where you place Thibs. You are also more than welcome to rank all of this season’s coaches and see where you’d rank Thibs among them.
There’s a reason Thibs got fired despite his aforementioned ECF run. His weaknesses are not a secret.
I would absolutely rank Thibs in the top ten last year. He had to integrate basically three new starters on the team along with not having Mitch for most of the season, lost Brunson and Deuce for good part of the second half of the season and had a garbage bench. Shamet was also hurt a good portion of the season.
And they still made the ECF’s. Yeah. That’s a top 10 coach.
Brown should’ve had a much better record with the bench he was given compared to what Thibs had. And the fact that guys like Sochan are riding pine in these playoffs is just stupid. The fact that Mitch, an absolute beast in the playoffs, is getting less time is beyond stupid.
I guess you should start by naming your Top 10.
The Knicks had good injury luck relative to the rest of the league. No major injuries. The top 5 players played 2300 minutes.
Miles McBride played 23 fewer games this year than he did last year, yet you’re trying to use that as a feather in Thibs cap.
It’s kind of arbitrary, isn’t it? Daigneault is up there but look at how well that team is put together. Having guys like Joe and Caruso coming off the bench is a luxury most teams don’t have. They are stacked all the way to their G league team.
Rick Carlisle is up there. The job Mazzulla did this year without Tatum and the players they shipped out was impressive. Spoelstra has the championship pedigree along with Kerr.
After that group there is little daylight between Udoka, Nurse, Finch, Mitch, Bickerstaff etc and Thibs.
What Thibs does almost better than any other coach is establishes a culture.
What was the culture of the Knicks this year? Touch and spray? They had no culture. They would run out of gas often during the regular season when under Thibs that’s when they would thrive. Losing two games in a row like that? In the last seconds? That’s not what this team was. That’s what they would do to other teams.
I would bet dollars to doughnuts he will be coaching a team next season. It could be a reunion in Chicago. Washington, Sacramento, Philly or NOLA are possible landing spots. Or it could be Orlando depending on how they do this postseason. And that’s the most likely one.
And most dangerous.
He lands on any of those teams and they are going to the playoffs. He lands in a place like Orlando they will go deep in the playoffs.
He changes the culture. Very few coaches have that ability especially in today’s player dominated NBA.
The Top Tier: Spoelstra, Carlisle, Daignault, Mazzulla, Kerr, Lue. That’s 6 which are pretty much unassailable.
Finch, Atkinson, Bickerstaff have had higher highs than Thibs in terms of player development & culture.
Finch has taken his team to TWO consecutive WCFs including as a 6th seed. He’s probably elevating to that top tier if MIN as a 6 advances over DEN again. Stark difference between him as a coach and Thibs.
Jason Kidd has taken his team to an NBA Finals. Michael Malone has won a Championship. Ditto Nick Nurse. The weight that you give Thibs’ ECF is way too heavy. It is not some crowning achievement in the legacy of a coach who has regularly underperformed in the playoffs.
Losing a series in 5 games as the home court advantage team is literally called getting Thibodeau’d.
Yes he has his strengths. His weaknesses are part of the deal too. The sum of his parts is he’s an average coach.
Lue falls out of that tier after the last season. Yes he has won a chip as a rookie coach on a team with prime LeBron James.
Pretty easy to be an amazing coach when you have a top 3 player all time on your team. Same with Malone who had the best player in the league. And he was jettisoned just weeks before the playoffs. Kidd had another generational talent in Luka. Let’s see what he does without him.
Players like Josh Hart, Mitch Robinson, even I Hart and Randle and certainly Brunson all were brought into their current status under Thibs.
You’re not going to convince that guys like Finch or Bickerstaff are better coaches and culture builders than Thibs. As I said there is little daylight between them. To throw Thibs into the mid tier just makes no sense with how good he got this team with lesser parts than other teams they are competing against. Mazzulla and Bickerstaff had the two top teams in the east last year and they were both watching from Cancun when the ECF’s started.
“Lue falls out of that tier after the last season.”
You’re just very fixated on results rather than process or game management.
Spoelstra and Carlisle did not exactly rack up wins this season. Will Hardy has a career 107-226 record and I would take him over Thibs.
Thibs only coaches win-now teams and yet he doesn’t win at the highest levels. He is not someone you would ever want for a rebuild or a gap year like the one Carsisle just went through.
Lue has JVG sitting next to him taking care of the defense. Quite a nice luxury. That’s two solid head coaches in one team and they couldn’t make the playoffs. This was an enormously disappointing season for the Clips and Lue.
Carlisle is a unique coach. He’s definitely top 3.
Thibs got the culture of this team right. We saw that in 2024 run. And if they weren’t so banged up going into the semis that year he would’ve gotten further.
Then the KAT trade happens.
So instead of having I Hart and Robinson he had KAT. That was a huge change in direction from Leon’s side for what Thibs was doing.
And he still got them to the ECF’s.
I just hope he’s not coaching an Eastern Conference team next year like the Wizards or the Bulls and certainly the Magic.
“Lue has JVG sitting next to him taking care of the defense. Quite a nice luxury. ”
Whereas Thibs doesn’t utilize his assistant coaches in the slightest. This is what is meant by him not utilizing modern methods. He is coaching games 1 on 5.
Yeah. Sure. Rick Brunson and Andy Greer were mutes, right? C’mon now. That’s absurd.
“That’s absurd”
Hey Google, tom thibodeau not using assistant coaches
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Tom Thibodeau has faced criticism for running a “one-man show” and not fully utilizing his assistant coaches, with former player Jeff Teague describing his offensive style as old-fashioned and rigid. This reputation for over-relying on starters and controlling game strategy led to perceptions that he struggled to collaborate with his staff.
This video (Brian Windhorst) discusses the criticism that Tom Thibodeau is too rigid and does not work well with his assistant coaches:
link to youtu.be
“One-Man Show” Criticism: Jeff Teague indicated that Thibodeau doesn’t allow assistants to contribute heavily, suggesting he should delegate more to creative minds on the bench, particularly regarding offensive strategy.
Rigidity and Player Management: Reports suggested it was hard to negotiate changes with Thibodeau, which extended to his reluctance to adjust lineups, use his bench, or heed advice on decreasing starter minutes.
Staff Turnover: Following his departure from the Knicks in 2025, several of his longtime assistants—including Andy Greer, Dice Yoshimoto, and others—were not retained as the team pivoted, highlighting the specific nature of his coaching staff.
Contrary Evidence: Despite the “one-man show” label, the Knicks did assemble a respected staff for him, including Johnnie Bryant, Mike Woodson, and Kenny Payne. Furthermore, it was noted he began using his bench more as the 2024-25 season progressed out of necessity.
Again. Andy Greer, Rick Brunson and a myriad of players that played for Thibs would say the exact opposite. But keep putting up your straw men and nonsense arguments.
“Thibs got the culture of this team right. We saw that in 2024 run. And if they weren’t so banged up going into the semis that year he would’ve gotten further.”
I think it’s pretty clear you are taking a very Knicks-centric fan view of this rather than viewing it objectively as a fan of the league as a whole.
2024 was probably Thibs’ best coached season, but that was certainly not sustainable (especially since they had no way to keep Hartenstein)
“Then the KAT trade happens.
So instead of having I Hart and Robinson he had KAT. That was a huge change in direction from Leon’s side for what Thibs was doing.”
1. Thibs had coached KAT before.
2. Thibs was obviously consulted on the trade.
3. Sticking with Randle was not going to get the Knicks any further given the team’s construction.
“1. Thibs had coached KAT before.
2. Thibs was obviously consulted on the trade.
3. Sticking with Randle was not going to get the Knicks any further given the team’s construction.”
All BS assumptions.
No. I’m not using McBride’s time compared to last season as a feather in Thibs cap. I’m saying Thibs had a garbage bench compared to what Brown has and didn’t have Mitch till the last few weeks of the season when Brunson and McBride were missing time so he had to integrate three new starters, go the season without one of their staples in Mitch and then figure out how to bring Mitch along when the Captain and Deuce were out. He had his full playoff roster together for the first time just a few games before the playoffs started.
And he took them to the ECF.
So mid.
Please.
The irony is I think Thibs and Brown are in the same tier.
You keep calling one mid while the reality is there isn’t much in Thibs’ history (recent or otherwise) that puts him over Brown. It’s mainly just a case of recency bias. Thibs’ coaching record extends well beyond 2025. Brown’s coaching record extends well beyond 2026.
What culture does Brown build? He doesn’t even know how to use Mitch in the playoffs.
I wouldn’t even call Brown a mid coach at this point. He’s utterly clueless and an obvious downgrade from Thibs. Painfully obvious.
And that’s what makes this suck so much more. You don’t fire the guy that just got you to the ECF’s especially after the FO turned over his roster and left him with a garbage bench.
And certainly not for a journeyman like Brown.
“He doesn’t even know how to use Mitch in the playoffs.”
Using Mitchell Robinson is a wee bit more complicated against a team that essentially uses Dyson Daniels as it’s Center.
Robinson was literally a -18 in 11 minutes last game.
He was -10 in 18 minutes the game before that.
Mitch has well defined strengths & weaknesses. He isn’t a player you can just run out there 25+ minutes in any matchup. Does he dominate the glass? Yeah. There are also a ton of things he doesn’t do well.
It’s really not that complicated. It’s putting him out there in a place where he can succeed. There is no way in hell they should be keeping pace with the Knicks in the rebounding department the way they did last night for the exact reason you mentioned. Dyson fn Daniels is their center.
Brown has zero clue what he’s doing or what lineups work and what don’t. Especially in this playoff setting. He’s a massive disappointment.
“Dyson fn Daniels is their center.”
Not on defense.
“There is no way in hell they should be keeping pace with the Knicks in the rebounding department”
The Knicks are grabbing 6 more rebounds per game with Robinson playing a minor role. They don’t need a rebounder. They need someone who can matchup against a perimeter centric team.
“Brown has zero clue what he’s doing or what lineups work and what don’t.”
I don’t think you do either, despite your protests.
Pretty disingenuous leaving out the other part of this…
“There is no way in hell they should be keeping pace with the Knicks in the rebounding department the way they did last night for the exact reason you mentioned.”
I specifically was talking about the last game. And you know it. It’s a boring obnoxious way to have a discussion. Especially with someone who is trying to defend Brown’s performance in this series. Stupid.
It’s disingenuous to ignore Robinson was a -18 in game 3. Rebounds aren’t why they lost the game. Towns pulled down 17 and they can’t play both guys together in this matchup. Hart is much better suited against a frontcourt of Jalen Johnson & Dyson Daniels.
I’m not really defending Brown so much as reminding that Thibs wasn’t any better and certainly had his playoff foibles. You are out here pretending he was a perfect coach and crying about an obnoxious discussion.
An obnoxious discussion with an ignorant disingenuous person. I’m done with this stupid conversation. Bye.
The Knicks arent doing very good, someone needs to step up very quick
I think they will come back in this series.
And they know Boston enough that even with Brown’s ineptitude the players could overcome it.
It’s NBA Finals or bust for me with Brown.
Otherwise firing Thibs was incredibly stupid.
Game 3…
KAT was great again and Brunson bad again… but he keeps shooting everything possible, as I said many times NYK can only win by playing for KAT as simple as!
Brown has proven the whole season to be the worse HC in the league, not a small accomplishment, right?
Bridges 0 pts , 3 FG. That’s showing up. Why would you play him 30 mins.
Towns 7/12 FG
Brunson 11/23 FG
The Hawks actually won pts in paint 50–49. Shouldn’t happen. I know this. Thibs was here they don’t lose these two gms.
5 first rounds picks that’s the haul you gave up, plus Donte.
Horrible trade.
They traded Donte for Towns, not Bridges
Ah yes because Nolan Traore and the other four future firsts would have done more the last two years.
“Bridges 0 pts , 3 FG. That’s showing up. Why would you play him 30 mins.”
Brown played him 20 minutes.
3 pt lead with 1:03 to play. Johnson scores for the hawks, Hart airballs a 3, Brunson airballs a 2, shot clock turnover still up 1 with 16 seconds left.
CJ is clutch, Hawks up 1 with 12 seconds – and the Knicks don’t even get up a shot as Kuminga steals on a Brunson pass.
I bet Thibs would have had Hart and Brunson in the game just like Brown did – the loss was on the players, not Brown.
Oh I guess I hit the 3 instead. thanks
OG goes for 29 you think you win easy. Knicks arent playing smart. They underestimate this team. And this coach can’t get that message across. Both loses have shown two of worst Knick traits this yr. This is more coaching imo. Just irritating lol.
What NY sack thibs for again? If the knicks get rolled in this series, it’s 100% on ownership and the front office. How many picks they give up for Bridges? You’ve got to be kidding me. Maxed themselves out salary wise too.
Sometimes less is more. I don’t think much thought went into constructing this roster. OG, Hart, Bridges are treading on each other’s johnsons. Skill sets overlap. One of them gotta go and isnt Hart. Hes contract is awesome for what he brings. Or it’s Brunson or Kat gotta go.
I forgot what the Duren trade was. At the time I thought, that’s dumb. It’s even worse now.
Putting all your chips in can be extremely dangerous. Knicks are still good enough to come back from 2-1 against Atlanta though.
Brown is not prepared. He was brought in on the fly after their first, second, third, fourth etc choice turned down the job.
Thibs had a system. A culture.
Brown is copy and paste.
System works in the playoffs.
Copy and paste not so much.
And why in the f isn’t Sochan being used to shutdown CJ.
He’s clamped down players from SGA. Doncic. Brunson. Murray.
And he’s riding pine.
Complete mismanagement of resources.
But Brown runs a ‘ Freelance offense’, it’s clearly working just like he is…not. If you didn’t have a great new Coach in the bag why the hell would you fire Thibs? Someones ego was involved in that decision, not intelligence.
The stars on the Knicks are being knocked out of their rhythm…
But it’s not a coaching thing with a few of them… Its historic…
KAT has always waned in the playoffs… a 28 and 12 guy in the season and a 20 and 10 guy in the playoffs…
Your stars need to do the opposite… he needs to be a 30 and 15 in the playoffs and never has shown that ability…
Bridges hasn’t had that star bump either…
Gotta hope there is more from Brunson and OG…
raz427
April 23, 2026
LMAO I love the New York Knicks.
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having a take or opinion is just that. You don’t know Shhh about ball.