4:01pm: Asked by Brad Townsend of The Dallas Morning News if the report on Horford and the Mavericks is accurate, a league source replied, “Not really.” However, that source didn’t offer any further clarification, tweets Townsend.
1:40pm: Al Horford is expected to leave the Celtics for a new team in free agency, and according to Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer, league sources consider the Mavericks the favorites to land the veteran big man.
As O’Connor writes, the Lakers and Clippers are also said to have interest in Horford, but they’ll likely be setting their sights on higher-end targets such as Kawhi Leonard. The Nets have also been cited as a potential suitor for Horford.
Dallas would be an intriguing landing spot for the 33-year-old center. The Mavericks have the cap flexibility necessary to make a competitive offer to Horford without compromising their ability to extend Dwight Powell or lock up Kristaps Porzingis to a long-term contract. Those three bigs would provide balance and versatility at both ends of the floor for the Mavs.
Horford will reportedly seek a four-year contract on the open market, and one report indicated that he may even be looking to surpass $100MM on his new deal. That’d be a significant investment for a player entering his mid-30s who battled some nagging health issues last season, but the Mavs have shown in the past that they’re not shy about committing big money to second-tier free agents. They signed Wesley Matthews and Harrison Barnes to four-year, maximum-salary contracts in 2015 and 2016, respectively.
these articles are fabricated fake news – boston media already reported al’s interested in the clippers, but it wasn’t known if that was mutual. #duediligence
What
What part is fake then?
Anything his mind doesn’t comprehend or agree with.
i mentioned on a earlier thread that i would like horford in dallas but not for 4 year 100 million.
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What’s the draw on calling out a grammar nazi? Does that make you feel like a better person?
That number didn’t come from mgmt. I can’t see any team willing to offer $100 mil. Would be interesting to see. My guess is more like 3/$45 or 4/$60 range. I think he likely wanted a change of scenery and more guaranteed $$$$$.
Mavericks make perfect sense. Horford is a top 20 guy according to a few advanced metrics, and Dallas loves advanced metrics.
Besides, a 4 year $100 million deal isn’t so crazy if the last year is a team option or partially guaranteed. Skilled bigs age well, relatively speaking.
If Dallas could structure it like the deal Denver gave Milsap a couple years ago or atleast declining value each year could go great with Luka still on his deal and then expiring when he hits his second deal
Unless KP is healthy and the Mavs are gonna take the stop towards playoff contention, then it seems a waste to spend that much on an aging center
if we are gonna after a big, i rather go for cousins or trade for a big like drummond if they make him avaliable? or just resign deandre again
Horford is better than all those guys.
i feel like drummond would be a perfect pairing with KP. blake griffen and jordan played well off of each other and drummond doesnt need the ball. he scores on putbacks and can play D.. also can do pick and roll with luka
i agree horford is a better scorer but i rather sign any of those other guys to 4 years than horford. unless we made his last year like we did with dampier so many years ago #dustchip
A healthy Cousins is better than Horford. He might not be as nice of a person but he is a legit 25/10/5 guy with handles and outside shooting.
And the Pelicans were actually a better team with Mirotic instead of him. I like Mirotic more than most fans, but it’s pretty tough to like Mirotic SO much that this doesn’t look really bad for Cousins.
Cousins is a legit 25-10-5 guy, but he dominates time of possession, makes dumb plays and even had the highest TOpg season avg (also 5) of any big man in the HISTORY of the NBA in his season with the Pels.
It’s possible to put up tons of inefficient volume and have a more-or-less neutral impact or even hurt a team. Horford (who is VERY efficient) has a higher career +/- than Cousins by 1.6 (per 100 plays). Over the past three seasons, that edge goes up to 4.2. Cousins gets huge numbers, but unless you want to see huge numbers for their own sake… so what?
If you want to say the best player is the one filling up the box score, irrespective of other factors, than Cousins is clearly better. However, if the best player is the one with the most positive impact for his team, Horford is WAY better than Cousins. It’s not even close.
Horford is very good… but DMC is just great!
BTW both are great guys, in no way shape or size, in this or a parallel universe DMC is not a nice person, the guy is just great!
So you’d rather have guys who don’t win or can’t stay on the court over Horford? No, bud. Just no.
everyone in there 30s will miss games here and there. Luka missed many games. cousins would be the reach but he is a play maker and can put up triple doubles and is a player maker
*was a play maker
4 years, 100 million would be as unwise as Chris Paul getting a max contract.
Oh wait, he did…..
Hindsight is 2020. At the time everyone knew the rockets needed a guy like Paul to compete with the warriors. It doesn’t always work out.
I’m pretty sure most people said that extension would be an almost immediate disaster and I’m not sure who they were competing with
Exactly. They knew the ramifications but realised they had a small window of opportunity and Paul was their best option. Ppl forget that most ppl felt that a healthy Paul would’ve beat the GSWa year or two ago.
Lol, 4 years would be unwise BUT NOTHING could ever be as bad as that CP3 contract.
I’d rather pay an aging big guy than an older gaurd or slashing/athletic wing.
Horford is older, but he’s 2 position, 2 way, high IQ big who can still be a difference maker against the top competition. If I was a team in win now mode with 21-22 mm or so in cap space, and not set at 4/5, yeah, without a doubt, I’d go 100 mm/4 for Horford. Borrowing from the future, probably, but so what? The ultimate goal is to win championships, not avoid bad contracts.
Knicks gettinf carmelo and many bad contracts- no championship. Hawks over paying joe johnson- no championship. Nets- getting all those ageing stars and their bad contracts- no championship. Timberwolves- no championship. Rockets and cp3- no championship. Bad contracts on older players is rough and delays trying to rebulid.
Lets say horford doesnt mesh well with luka and Kp and then what? He will have a cp3 like contract which is pretty much untradeable. I rather give someone like bobby portis and max contract for 4 years then horford
The Mavs always seem to have a clear vision of who they want to be and they always seem to target good fit guys in free agency. They’re a really well run franchise.
wow…4/100…and I thought he got himself overpaid from the Celtics…if he gets that it will make CP3’s contract look easily manageable.
Seriously 4/100…wtf.
Cuban the Shark is at risk here but that’s how he likes it. Horford makes a lot of sense as a fit with the other pieces on the court, it’s just that he’s 10+ years older than they are. Western Conference will be a free-for-all this year and this signing would put Marky Mark in the mix. Horford is a good guy who’s played a lot of minutes. Tough call for everyone now that he’s a FA.
4-40 maybe 4-50 but 4-100???
He left $30m for a year on the table with the C’s. It’s going to be big money somewhere and they’ll have to watch his health and minutes. Dicey proposition but a nice fit for the Nets, Mavs, and others.
Knicks gettinf carmelo and many bad contracts- no championship. Hawks over paying joe johnson- no championship. Nets- getting all those ageing stars and their bad contracts- no championship. Timberwolves- no championship. Rockets and cp3- no championship. Bad contracts on older players is rough and delays trying to rebulid.
Lets say horford doesnt mesh well with luka and Kp and then what? He will have a cp3 like contract which is pretty much untradeable. I rather give someone like bobby portis and max contract for 4 years then horford
Loved Horford in Boston, but any GM handing him $100mil over 4 should be fired on the spot. If Boston had brought him back at $50mil over 3 years, it would have been ok, but that’s about my limit….
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