The Pistons recently turned down an offer from the Kings that would have sent rookie forward Saddiq Bey to Sacramento in a deal involving Marvin Bagley III, league sources tell Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports.
After Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report suggested earlier today that Bagley would welcome a change of scenery, Haynes reiterates that point in his latest report, writing that the Kings and the third-year big man are “keen on discovering a corridor toward separation.”
A deal for Bey would be a long shot though, as the Pistons have shown little to no interest in parting with any members of their rookie class, according to James Edwards III of The Athletic, who says all four of those rookies (Bey, Killian Hayes, Isaiah Stewart, and Saben Lee) are considered building blocks for the team’s rebuild.
Here’s more from Haynes:
- Rockets players thought the team was on the verge of acquiring Magic forward Aaron Gordon a few days ago, but at least one source with knowledge of trade talks disputed that a deal was at the finish line, writes Haynes. Sources tell Yahoo Sports that Gordon doesn’t want to go to a rebuilding team, preferring to join a club with the potential to make a playoff run. While Gordon doesn’t have the ability to dictate his landing spot, he’ll be a free agent in 2022, so any team giving up assets to acquire him would want to be relatively confident it could sign him beyond then, Haynes observes.
- As other reports have suggested, the odds of a John Collins trade this week appear to be declining. Haynes says the Hawks haven’t been overly impressed by the offers, including a Mavericks package featuring Maxi Kleber.
- Cavaliers center Jarrett Allen isn’t going anywhere before the trade deadline, but Cleveland is expected to have plenty of competition for him on the restricted free agent market this summer. Haynes reports that the Pistons, Raptors, Spurs, and Wizards are expected to be among the teams with interest in Allen, who turned down a four-year, $48MM extension offer from the Nets before the season.
- A buyout is becoming a more likely outcome than a trade for Cavaliers center JaVale McGee, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. A buyout would be a bit of a surprise if there’s any interest in McGee, since he’s on a very movable $4.2MM expiring contract.
29 thoughts on “Haynes’ Latest: Bagley, Pistons, Bey, Gordon, Collins, Cavs”
MB3 could be a piece going to Orlando or Atlanta as a 3rd.
ORL wouldn’t want Bagley…but I could see them wanting Collins as a long term piece.
That would be a complicated trade to pull off. But if possible I think it could work from bb pov:
PG: Fultz / Anthony
SG: Ross / Anthony
SF: Isaac / Okeke / Ross
PF: Collins / Isaac / Okeke
C: Vucevic / Collins / Bamba
+ first round pick
…probably ends the Bamba experiment but I’d be ok with it if Collins was involved.
First off, that roster doesn’t look great even if everyone is healthy. But of the 16 knees you have listed, I think somewhere around 5 of them are fully healthy. That’s a bad bet for an NBA team.
Continuing the frustration and glut at PF with no SF to speak of is odd if your trading Gordon and possibly losing Fournier next season. I don’t get it? Wolves have Culver, Rubio and Beasley to offer, but Gordon didn’t like Houston, doubt Minnesota is thrilling him. 3-teamer. There could be multiple 3 team trades this week.
Biggest issue with AG was that he couldn’t shoot consistently and wanted the ball in his hands…doesn’t want to play the role most think he should…he wants to be Kobe, but is really Shawn Marion type.
I see Collins/Vuc front court being extremely hard to defend as both can stretch floor, PnPop and pass well on short roll.
When Vuc sits, Collins slides to C and JI to PF…as Vuc fades, team can transition to Collins C/JI at PF.
The Vuc/Collins tandem can really open up floor for Fultz, who is deadly in transition and once in the paint.
Ross draws a ton of attention as high movement shooter. JI isn’t proven 3PT shooter yet, but was starting to get more reliable.
I have thought Isaac at the 3 has stunk for the team overall for 3 seasons now. Gordon moving on so Isaac can play where he belongs should have happened a long time ago. Its time to end the 1st round loss 2 seasons in a row experiment. Get an SF, play the nearly 7 ft Isaac at the 4, and stop F’in around already! Reminds me of Turner and Indy. Its like watching paint dry… Stalemate
It’s different than IND because of Vucevic as he’s elite above break 3PT shooter at high volume.
link to twitter.com
Which is different than two bigs that shoot 32% from 3PT range.
Plus Vuc runs a lot of offense from high post.
As long as Isaac can hit 3’s, the SF spot doesn’t need to be a high USG ball dominant position.
Ideally sure a SF similar to Collins offensive caliber would be better, but those guys are rare and ORL has little means to get one. Which is why I don’t mind Collins since JI can slot in at SF fine.
Isaac is a PF. Play him at the PF. Turner heaves 3’s, Vucevic isn’t Jokic, Sabonis is a tremendous player and what success has the previous model shown? When do you quit failure? Insanity.
Isaac is a F, he’s best defending perimeter / weakside…isn’t as effective vs PF-C w/mass
Turner/Sabonis aren’t even remotely close to Vuc as a shooter. Vuc isn’t Jokic, but he’s closest thing to Jokic there is in NBA. He gets his 3P shot off quick from above the break, can attack closeouts and is high bbIQ excellent passer from both high and low plus very good on short roll.
When do you quit failure?
Why would Orlando trade for Collins when they got Gordon and Isaac that’s just senseless when they already tried Isaac at small forward and didn’t like it that’s the reason for Gordon being traded
Gordon is gone soon because he could never be reliable shooter + wants ball in his hands despite sucking at it. Fit issue was more w/his incompatibility w/Fultz.
Isaac worked well at SF, can lock down 1-4. He’s not quite reliable on 3pt yet, but was well on way to that. I see no reason JI/Collins/Vuc can’t work.
Wise move by the Pistons to not do this trade
Depends on what the other pieces of the proposed deal were. If it was 1 for 1, it might have been a fair deal. But if Sac asked for more than Bey, Det was definitely wise to turn it down.
Detroit silly Bagley only 9 million and 2 much more they can ask for at that value once Bey been included I hope my Bucks steal Bagley
Oh, I see… thanks for clearing that up!
Norm Powell for Bagley straight up…
Sac should do it, but don’t think Raps would.
Yeah I don’t think I would be overly impressed by a Maxi Kleber led package for anything, let alone John Collins.
So ATL will take their chance in restircted FA? I don’t think they’ll be able to afford Collins. Plus with Hunter coming back, time for ATL to make a move.
If I’m Troy Weaver, I’m not trading Bey for Bagley straight up, but once you consider that Bagley is owed $11.3M next year and Bey is owed $10.3M over the next three years, I don’t think many GMs do that deal.
Top one sided trade proposal
Kieber package for Collins
Only Dallas value him teams have been rejecting Dallas offers for him teams want hardaway or Richardson not kleber
Why didn’t Mavs trade KP for Collins and Gallo?
There is no sexy or huge overpaid trades offer today
The sexiest offer so far is
Hawks offer Bogdan for Oladipo
Rockets fall in love with long term contract
Augustin has 3 year contract
Westbrook has $160 million contract at the time of trade
Augustin’s contract is fully guaranteed for 2 years, the third year is only guaranteed for $333K. And the other two are only for $7M or less.
Detroit obviously isnt moving Saddiq Bey, but it is funny I had him mocked to Sacramento before the draft