The Cavaliers have begun to explore trade options involving guard Collin Sexton, Jeremy Woo of Sports Illustrated reports.
Sexton is one of the prominent players eligible for a rookie scale extension this offseason. He’s likely to seek a maximum contract, Woo notes, but the Cavaliers have continued to flounder during his first three seasons. The Cavs have gone 19-63, 19-46 and 22-50 during that span.
Jarrett Allen is a restricted free agent and Cleveland is expected to pursue a multiyear deal with the young center it acquired from the Nets this season.
There’s belief around the league that the Cavs would prefer to trade Sexton in order to protect their future cap flexibility, according to Woo. Sexton averaged a team-high 24.3 PPG and 4.4 APG this season.
The fact that the Cavs moved up in the lottery also plays into that notion. They hold the No. 3 pick in the draft and three of the top four prospects are guards — Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs. They could replace Sexton with a player on a rookie contract for the next few years and acquire other assets for him.
Cade for Wiseman+7+14
Sexton for Wiggins
Oubre in a sign-and-trade for anyone
All I want. Wiggins and Klay dont create their own shots, only Steph does (and Poole). GSW lacking that type, Sexton is that type. Cade with the Splash Bros my god, 5 more chips coming soon.
The point of trading Sexton is about money, so I don’t think the Cavs would be interested in taking Wiggins contact. Also I don’t think the Pistons would bite either, Cade could potentially be a franchise changer and they know that I’m sure.
Hahaha
Why would the Pistons want Wiseman when they have an All Rookie C Beef Stew?
@”Stons” Fan
1. Maybe they play him at PF
2. The Pistons are the ones who have coveted Wiseman the most before the draft and apparently still do?
That’s not a terrible point, but the idea of Detroit trading for Wiseman (not in that trade) is the least ridiculous non-Oubre part of this post.
That’s wishful all around.
Correct but I’m a GSW fan, a LOT of my wishes have come true over the last 10 years.
Wiggins CAN create his own shot. He can take his man off the dribble and go all the way to the hole or shoot a little jumper. That’s actually one of his strengths.
Disagree respectfully on Wiggins.
Yes it is wishful thinking, what are these comments sections even for?? lol
People voicing their opinion, your trade is weak, Pistons would never do that.
He’s GREAT at that. The problem is he doesn’t make them.
Wiseman, 7 and 14 for the #1 isn’t a real trade, especially to a team that already has multiple picks.
Sexton for Wiggins doesn’t come close to working under the cap.
Kind of agree on Oubre, mainly for the trade exception, but then they need to figure out what to do with that.
Wiggins is a great shot creator — one of the better ones in the NBA. His problem is he’s a terrible shot maker. Remember Bob Sura, who could get to the rim at will but was unable to finish? Wiggins is like that. He can get almost all the shots Tatum can get, but he can’t make them. He only makes easy shots (mostly).
Fun fantasies, though.
why in any world would the pistons want Wiseman. Let alone for giving up a prospect like Cunningham. Wiggins is a bonified scrub (trust me a wolves fan) and for Collin Sexton none the less. This has to be a joke
Didn’t want it to happen, but looks like it will. Hope we can do a Sexton/talented young PF swap. Maybe a Sexton for Christian Wood? Cavs then go Garland-Green/Suggs-Okoro-Wood-Allen, and the Rockets could go Wall-Sexton-Porter-Tate-Mobley? Idk, typing it out I don’t feel like that would work. Whatever the situation I hope it works for Sexton. Hard worker and very talented.
Not Wiggins, Wall, Wood or Waldo, nor any wabbit.
Philly somehow. He could vibe with Embiid.
Trade to The teams that have cap room next 4 years
He wants money
Cavs think he has big trade value but he has little value
These type of players value is high the first 3 rookie years, not now
I have question marks on GM
Why not trade him one year ago?
Facts! He’s about to be over paid, thay means his value is almost non-existant. If he isn’t worth it to the team that drafted him why would he be to another team. If they take money they can get value but that’s regardless.
You know a rookie-scale max is a lot less than a veteran max. (IDK the number.)
Gotta imagine Philly tries to get involved. They need more scorers and Morey has a way of getting creative to fill needs.
Beal will will be traded from Simmons
Would have to be a 3way because I don’t see any team being OK with having Westbrook and Simmons …
Also there’s the fact that Beal is dramatically better than Simmons, and therefor the Wizards would never make that trade.
Should 76ers trade Maxey for Sexton, then pay him 4 year 100 million？
76ers may be able to trade Simmons for a small contract or pay more luxury tax
What about Shake, this year’s first rounder and a future first rounder? Not a bad take for Cleveland and potentially huge move for the Sixers.
I like Sexton, but what is the Sixers guard rotation in that case? Keep Hill, he starts at PG and Seth comes off the bench? They have better players that way, but I’m not sure it’s a rotation that makes sense. Also depends who would start at SF in a post-Simmons world. I guess Thybulle (or maybe a re-signed Green). but none of your top four guards in that situation (Hill, Seth, Sexton and Maxey) are big enough to really play 3-guard rotations, which is potentially a problem.
Not surprising. I’ve said it for a couple of years. He is an undersized 2 guard. Would be a strong 6th man as a scorer off the bench, depending on who else you might have, preferably shooting and defense around him
Garland is more of a true PG, even though he also has shortcomings, and I personally dont think they should start next to each other. They could potentially play in some multiple guard lineups together, but not sure it makes sense to pay what Sexton might be looking for, when you need certain pieces around that
He will shop for a max and someone will be stupid enough to pay him.
Just to draft one of the Jalens and ruin their careers too. Lol
Max? If that’s more than aspiration, then Yes, move him. He and Garland are too small a starting backcourt in any event.
They need to move quickly, though, prior to next season. As seen with Collins, Ball, Lauri, etc., rising RFAs don’t have the trade value their teams might think. The headache they’re trying to avoid (having to match an overpay offer sheet or let the guy walk for nothing), is not one that most teams want to assume.
I said they were going to trade him over a year ago and I was scoffed at. Here we are today.
That’s really not something to get excited about or worked up over. Basketball talk in this forum is LACKING. Most people in here don’t even know the ball is round.
And yet you continue to hang around us troglodytes. Says something about you doesn’t it?
Not really. Hes probably like me and likes the site but is flabbergasted at the ridiculous posts made in the comment section.
Wait, the ball is round?!
Stop with the insanity. What, are you going to try and tell me the Earth is round next, too?
MLB has too many posts per article. Football has too many political comments. Hockey is a glitch and not supposed to be on here. Hoops is just the right amount of Sillivan or Wallywood bashing and outlandish trade suggestions, and it doesn’t take me an hour to find my comment and reply.
Exactly, this place has just the right amount of weird without too much traffic.
Settle down kyrie
Oh my gawd. We have upset 13Morgs13 because he wants to talk baseball in basketball forum. Why are they so overly sensitive?
Wiggins is one of laziest overrated players since his Kansas days. Why you think Cavs traded him for Love! Collin can be traded to Pelicans for Lonzo. Green, Ball and Garland will bring fire the the backcourt.
Not last year bud
Oh gawd…Uncle Steve has to explain why the Warriors didn’t trade Klay Thompson for Kevin Love. Klay has 3 rings. Wiggins is still better than Kevin Love.
LBJ wanted Love and Love helped get us a ring. That’s what matters.
Not sure that was the explanation for that.
The Wiggins/Love trade was to get a player who was ready to drive wins right away. Turns out Wiggins was a long way from driving wins and Love got injured a lot. It did pay off for four straight EC titles.
The Love for Klay proposal is another history piece but… How about Sexton.
Proposed, Lonzo S&T for Sexton.
Unless Mobley is available, the trade does not help them when they draft a guard. So no.
Warriors wanted a stretch 4. More specifically Steve Kerr wanted a stretch four. Draymond said, hey I’ll be your stretch 4, and he worked on his 3-pointer that summer. He did okay for a year or two and then is shooting fell off a cliff the last couple years. Hope he gets it back.
He got good last year, watch some games and stop thinking how a player is in college is how he will be the rest of his life.
Let the perpetual rebuild continue. Maybe they will luck into another once in a generation talent again this century and matter again.
With the amount of first overall picks the Cavs have had since 2000 even picking Bron looks like luck, I’m sure they were thinking about taking Darko
What about Sexton for Porzingis and Terry? Gives the Cavs a real stretch 4 and a future backup point for Garland. And gives the Mavs a real second play maker. And with Doncic being a point at 6-7 it negates Sextons size at the wing. And Sexton can play D which helps move Luka off ball on D.
Cuz salarybisnt even close.
Sexton to the Celtics for Robert Williams and a 1st rounder
I think Robert Williams has come around and the Celtics wouldn’t dare trade him.
Im pro Time Lord but they did just acquire two viable rotation bigs, including a young developmental one with real promise. It’s not impossible, but idk if I want Sexton. Maybe.
Sexton next to Luka makes a lot of sense. Would they trade him for Porzingis?
Porzingis would be unhappy in Cleveland and not worth the injury risks and headaches.
I swear the Cavs simply can’t get from in front of themselves. I could care less about what advance metrics say. If you have a willing learner you can teach good defense. And so what if he’s not a traditional pass first guard. Move him to the 2 guard. When’s the last time the Cavs had a 24 points pg player not named Lebron or Kyrie? Never!!
If Gilbert felt comfortable giving an injury prone Love over the age of 30 the contract they gave then I gave no problem giving Sexton the best contract they can negotiate. In not saying give him the max without negotiating but I simply do not trust them to get equal value. Let’s be clear NO SIGNIFICANT FA wants to come to Cleveland. They need to retain as much top talent as possible. There is NO guarantee that whomever they draft at #3 will pan out. This team can’t afford to keep making mistakes. Sexton has had 3 different head coaches in his 3 seasons. Coach him to improve on defense. Speaking of which stop making excuses about his size and defensive liabilities. He’s not the creator that Young is but Sexton scored 1pt less than him and he did it in fewer shots, a higher FG% and 3pt %. STOP DOING STUPID THINGS!
I expect Sexton to score 27 ppg
I hope he can sign max contract
Kill it, as Mr Dan Gilbert said
I hope they keep Sexton. I don’t understand how they can get rid of their best scorer who shoots with such efficiency. Good coaching can help improve him on defense. And let’s be clear, the nba is full of guards than can score and play little defensively. Yet, would anyone hesitate to sign them, aside from maybe Isiah Thomas who’s much smaller than Sexton.
I remember when he was drafted he said come on Lebron let’s do it let’s go to the Finals Lmao.
Kuzma and a future 2nd for Sexton & Cedi
Let’s Cle get outta Cedi, Cedi re-unites w buddy LBJ
Lakers don’t re-sign Sexton (1 and done)
Salaries match perfect
Gives Cle stretch 4 /reb
Lakers get to waive bye to Dennis kick the Pg can 1 more year down the road and their ledger becomes a whole lot more manageable in the short interim
Horrible trade for the Cavs. Lol.
Cedi is underwater and its 1 (non playoff) year of Sexton who they wouldn’t resign
I don’t know if horrible can even qualify for that package of players as a statement
@ bALLOONS- Lakers don’t need a real Pg w LBJ
Sexton isn’t a PG. He’s a better scorer than Schroeder, but a far worse defender. Not clear how that helps the Lakers be better on the court (cheaper, though, which I’m sure Lebron will be totally happy with).
This actually feels in the neighborhood of reasonable, depending on your feelings about Kuzma. If it’s me (as the Cavs) I want a little more, which is tricky since the Lakers’ cupboard of picks is just dust and half a box of corn muffin mix … it’s pretty empty, is what I’m saying.
Maybe they can move Love and Sexton to Blazers for CJ, Little and Simmons. A three way with Dallas And Poz. Kemba is another piece to that could be used in a three way.
Wonder if the Celtics would get involved here
Option 1:
Basic trade would be headlined by
Sixers get Sexton and Love
Cavaliers get Simmons and Maxey
Other assets, players or picks, to make it work
Option 2:
Basic outline of 4 team trade or multiple trades to achieve this
Lakers wind up with Tobias Harris
Sixers wind up with Sexton and Love
Cavaliers wind up with Toppin, Kuzma
Knicks wind up with Maxey
Other stuff involved to make it work for everyone however it unfolds.
Why would the Cavs want Simmons for Love if they are trying to reduce payroll? Simmons adds two years.
And, even with Simmons’s fall, Simmons + Maxey for Sexton and Love is a joke because (1) they Sixers wouldn’t trade Simmons and Maxey for Harden; and (2) Love and Harris play the same position.
(1) what does the Sixers not trading Simmons/Maxey for Harden have to do with getting Sexton whos younger, cheaper, and not a drama queen have to do with each other?
Harden is 31 going on 32, making 40+ million next 3 years, no defense, and a headache
Sexton is eligblible for a rookie scale extension at 5 years 168 million, and 21ish.
Idk what Philly refusal to trade Simmons at 24 for Harden at 31 has to do with using Simmons to get Sexton at 21.
(2) cavaliers don’t keep Harris. Cavaliers ship Harris to the Lakers for kuzma + whatever else it takes. Love winds up in philly.
Next time actually look at the details before commenting cause the inaccuracies of your response are pretty bad.
(1) they Sixers wouldn’t trade Simmons and Maxey for Harden
Yeah its really comparable
Harden: 31, 40 mill, no defense, drama queen
Sexton: 21, rookie scale extension.
Good comparison.
(2) Love and Harris play the same position.
That’s cool
Love winds up in Philly
Harris winds up in LA
Cavaliers wind up with Kuzma +
But that’s really cool they play the same position. Doesn’t really matter when they’re playing for different teams.
if they are trying to reduce payroll? Simmons adds two years.
Guess you forgot how sending sexton to to the Sixers means cavaliers aren’t paying him a rookie scale extension…..which reduces payroll if they draft Suggs.
But that’s cool about payroll and Simmons 2 years.
Interesting. I like Sexton in the right situation…could be an impactful player for a better team.
Tobias to the Lakers for only Kuz would be a steal. Kuz is trash.
Cavs don’t have to extend Sexton at all. He is 3 years and they should wait like Atlanta made Collins wait. Even after next season they ultimately control his rights being able to match any offer.
Why trade him now if it’s not going to bring in a major asset?
Because otherwise they are going to let him go as a free agent after the season and it’s not like they need him to compete this year.
They can sign and trade next off-season or swing him to a contender mid season. This is not the height of his value. So might as well get some production out of him. Anything can happen, what if Garland blows a ACL. Then what. Young guys that can play is not a problem.
Agreed that it’s not urgent, but worth seeing what’s out there — Sexton gets buckets, but might be tricky to trade post-extension. But you really hate to break up a nickname like Sexland.
To the Knicks for Toppin and pick 19. Knicks need the shooting/scoring and with Randle’s emergence, likely won’t carve out consistent minutes for Obi anyways (we all know Thibs loves to play his favourite players 35+ a game, which Randle is).
Garland, Okoro and Allen take care of the 1, 3 and 5 positions. Adding Toppin, and if their lucky, Green + an additional first basically gives them their starting five for the future.
Trade Sexton to Magic. They need young guards
Obi Toppin and a first makes a lot of sense.
Knicks have cap space and need at point guard. Plus Sexton gets buckets and plays defence.
Cavs then have Garland Okoro Allen and Toppin, plus this years picks in the draft.