Conversations between the Nets and Kyrie Irving about his future have “gone stagnant,” according to Shams Charania of The Athletic, who hears from sources that the two sides are currently at an impasse. The deadlock could prompt the star guard to consider other destinations, Charania reports.
Irving said after the Nets’ season ended that he didn’t plan to go anywhere, and a report just two weeks ago suggested he was likely to remain in Brooklyn. However, negotiations between his camp and the Nets were always expected to be challenging, given that his stock has dipped a little in recent years and he no longer seems like a good bet to land a fully guaranteed long-term maximum salary contract.
Irving has been as productive as ever when he has played for the Nets over the last three seasons, averaging 27.1 points, 6.0 assists, and 4.7 rebounds per game on .490/.406/.920 shooting. However, injuries and personal decisions have limited him to just 103 appearances out of a possible 226 regular season games during that time and have raised questions about his reliability going forward.
Charania writes that the Nets and Irving have “serious work to do” to resolve his contract situation and ensure he remains in Brooklyn. If Kyrie does consider heading elsewhere, the Lakers, Clippers, and Knicks are expected to be among his suitors, sources tell The Athletic.
As Charania observes, the Lakers and Clippers project to be over the tax apron for the 2022/23 season, likely ruling out the possibility of a sign-and-trade. So if he wants to go to either L.A. team, Irving would probably have to pick up his $36.9MM player option with an understanding that a trade is coming. The Knicks don’t project to have cap room, but would have the cap flexibility to pursue Irving via sign-and-trade if he declines his option to become an unrestricted free agent.
The Clippers and Knicks are in a better position to make a viable trade offer for Irving than the Lakers, who would almost certainly have to include Russell Westbrook‘s $47MM+ expiring deal in any package for salary-matching purposes.
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Seems unlikely that KD will allow the Nets to let him leave, but if he does, Clippers have the easiest path to getting him for 2 or 3 of their high level veteran role players. I could also see Dallas jumping in here if they wanted a more established 2nd star and thought Brunson wasn’t the guy.
Kyrie returning to Brooklyn continues to seem inevitable tbh. But a reunion in Brooklyn with KD & Russ/LA with Bron & Kyrie would be such a ridiculous blockbuster for the league that they have to be considered
The Mavs wouldn’t want him. Clippers are a possibility with the Lue connection, and if he decided to play more than less than half a season he could help them.
Lol @ the Mays wouldn’t want him. They would do the most to upgrade from Dinwiddie to Kyrie. Just like Brooklyn did
Mavs wouldn’t touch him. Bad attitude and ethic. The complete opposite of what jk holds dear. Would never fit with Luka. Mavs will be looking for either a 5 or a high end 3&d that’s got his head on straight
Kyrie Irving fit with LeBron & Harden, why wouldn’t he fit with Luka? Lol his attitude is fine & his work ethic is elite. 1 of the main reasons you know his name is bc he has incredible work ethic
The guy takes PTO every season and thinks he’s bigger than the team. Apparently you missed that his problems with Harden caused by his refusal to get vaxxed pushed Harden out of Brooklyn.
Kyrie fit extremely well with Harden on the court. Same with Bron. Kyrie is 1 of the best basketball players on the planet. Any team would want him. Numerous teams would pay the max to have him. These are all obvious facts
Are you Kyrie Irving
Did Kyrie Irving take your girl?
Nah cause she got curves just like the earth
You come on here ripping Kyrie’s game and claiming your “girl” has “curves just like the earth”. If she got all that, then why are you on HoopRumors arguing about Kyrie? Shouldn’t you be putting in some “work” right now with her? …. Performance Issues???? And you on here criticizing another man’s game???
Omg that’s hilarious after his earth is flat comments
I bet the Celtics don’t want him! I’m sure the Warriors don’t.
We will soon see if any team who isn’t trying to rid themselves of an expensive problem such as the Lakers and RW is willing to make the Nets an offer.
Any team would want anytime. But at max dollars at max years… that’s a different story. There’s no question, the talent is there. It’s his commitment that’s the issue
Irving fit with Harden? When? They played a grand total of like 35 games together. You’re just making it up as you go.
Aye somebody did a lil research. Alright so if you know they played 35gms then I’m sure you know what their record together was. You probably also know how dominant the Nets were offensively with them together too
My point is that it’s 35 games. That’s not even half a season. You can’t say one way or the other whether he ‘fit’ with Harden. You’re just throwing a bunch of stuff out there hoping you hit on a point. Take a step back, come up with a coherent point, and then argue it. You don’t need to comment on everything.
A handful of possessions & a lil common sense is all it should take to tell that Kyrie & Harden were an incredibly efficient/productive backcourt duo. 35gms of dominance are more than enough to come up with a conclusion, especially when they were winning gms at a 3-1 ratio… lol u say step back & come up with a coherent point. Okay, I said Kyrie & Harden were a good on court fit, as was Bron & Kyrie. That’s not only coherent, it’s extremely obvious. Or at least it should be. Lol you clearly are salty bc of my comments, that’s your issue my dude. I’m gonna comment on literally anything I want to. You should take notes fr
Nobody wants to be Sankara. Extremely obvious.
If you know their W-L, why not say so? Because you disrespect.
So Harden and Irving ‘fit’ so well that they won nothing significant and their relationship was so bad that Harden was trashing Irving (publicly and privately) the next season for not playing. And Harden hated being there so much that the Nets traded him away for Ben Simmons (who was radioactive) in short order. Some ‘fit’.
Again, I ask you to *think* before you comment. You don’t need to blurt out every thought that enters your head.
I think he played less than like 25 games total with those dudes
Mavs already traded for Wood. I’m confident Cuban will sign Brunson.
With Hardaway back healthy they will be certainly improved over last season’s WCF team.
Nets team salary 9 players $158 million
Will Need to sign Brown and Claxton
Clippers don’t have the assets Nets want
Those Clippers players are taxable for Nets
Norman Powell would cost them $60 million per year
What option does Irving have if BRKLN doesn’t want to do a sign and trade? I wouldn’t want these bad contracts coming back, unless there’s a real sweetener to the pot. Let him exercise his player option and run it back for one more year.
Sign and Trade is not an option
Irving wants contract security.
It has to be option in and then make a trade to the teams he likes.
Nets are not taking any overpaid contracts from Clippers and Knicks because it is taxable.
Third team offer good assets.
Westbrook…. 2 number 1s and couple role players might get it done if they would any the 1s but don’t know how that makes Durant happy… I think Lakers might be only team to accept him on option and give him a wink wink max extension after next year.. either that or me might force Nets to give him long term max.. but I wouldn’t do it.. Lakers are desperate so would throw the dice and pray
Imagine every US state is its own country. Also imagine that the Olympic basketball tournament is the classic 64 team ncaa tournament bracket format & all of the current best players are willing & able to play (for the country/state they spent the most time in from age 0-18). With teams like New Jersey, Spain, Ohio, Canada, Florida, Slovenia, North Carolina, Cameroon & more who would be your top4 seeds going in? Who would be the eventual bronze/silver/gold medalists? And who would lead their team to victory?
I wouldn’t feel comfortable guessing the results, it would be a barn-burner for sure.
I’ll start this 1.. Serbia, California, North Carolina & France get my top seeds… I got North Carolina, Germany, Illinois, Texas, Canada, New York, Nigeria & Serbia in the elite 8
That’s 12 not 8.
Cali could field several top 12… They should be split up alteady.
France would mess up.
Surprised you didn’t say Georgia.
Ohio 15-30 years ago. Might win early 60s
Not much could be funnier than him going to the Lakers for Westbrook. I hope the basketball gods make it happen!
I think most people want this to happen on some level, whether they hate these 4 guys or love them
Why on earth would the Nets do that
Kyrie isn’t reliable & it’s understandable why Brooklyn may not wanna sign him long term. If they dw give him the long-term deal he wants & the Lakers are then he’s most likely gonna end up with the Lakers. If Brooklyn can get back Russ plus a mountain of assets back that might be a good look. Remember that Russ & KD were historically great together in OKC. Only problem was the lack of shooting around them. That shouldn’t be an issue in Brooklyn… that being said Kyrie is def gonna resign with the Nets. It’s in both of their best interests
but its more likely LeBron gets traded for Kyrie since LeBron is looking to get out for a ring. They trade LeBron to Nets for Kyrie then goes back to LA when he is a FA. Teams with KD for a chance at a ring. Don’t laugh it could happen.
I’m having trouble following you. On the one hand, you say Dallas should trade for Kyrie because he’s great and plays great with stars. On the other hand, Brooklyn should trade him away because he’s unreliable. And they should trade him for Russell Westbrook, who is one of the most untradeable assets in the league (which would imply that Kyrie is on par with him, which is not good).
Kyrie and Russ on LAL would be must see TV. Darvin Ham would be pulling his hair out! Not even all of the gods in all of the religions could make that happen, though.
Keep up guy, they’d be traded for each other. They wouldn’t be on the same team
Try to read and comprehend past the first 5 words…guy.
If lebron wanted Kyrie but KD didnt want russ, who wins?? lmaoo
Lakers get Kyrie (4 yr Max starting at 42M)
Nets get Westbrick (1/47M)
Nets trade Wesbrick to Hornets for Hayward and Rozier
Lakers trade THT + Nunn + 1st for Joe Harris
Nets clear Harris’ contract, get rid of Kyrie. Nets get a starting PG, Starting SF, Back-up combo guard and back-up combo forward.
Hornets get salary relief.
Lakers get Kyrie and a premier shooter, when healthy.
Westbrick? You lost before you even started smh
You prefer Brickbrook?
Why do u hate him so much lol
I don’t hate him. But the goal of pro sports is winning championships, and he has no idea whatsoever how to accomplish that goal.
dude shut it, most of your comments are bunk we all been calling him Brick for. while it’s even autocorrect for me now.
“Even autocorrect for me now”! LOL
Hornets don’t want Russ
No well run team does.
Teams want an expiring contract to clear their cap.
You forget about Ball? Didn’t think this one through, did you.
Brick for Rozier and Hayward is a long talked about trade to clear cap space for re-upping Ball and Bridges. Same thing for John Wall. They are looking to dump salary.
And how do they convince an experienced coach (good one at that) to take that job?
Well they aren’t getting a 1 year deal. Typically 3, 4 or 5. And they give larger contracts to better coaches. They have to clear salary one way or another to pay Bridges and Ball and work within the luxury, they don’t want to end up as a tax team at least that’s the motive behind the Rozier and Hayward trade rumors. It’s not new idk if you haven’t seen it but it’s been postulated a lot on here that both are very available for an expiring contract.
These pre Madonna’s deserve each other!!
Jesus dude it’s “primadonna” not “pre Madonna”
I don’t even remember what the world was like pre Madonna.
Pre Madonna would be Cher.
I’ve always loved If I Could Turn Back Time video.
Would Britney Spears be post-Madonna?
Lady Gaga. Britney couldn’t sustain it.
I love how the lakers are “in on” everyone, even though they have no cap space, future assets or current players anyone wants. Keep living that dream guys.
Yes I agree not so much right now but I think at the trade deadline there could be a couple teams out there that have big salaries and a few more years could call the Lakers and say, we’ll give you these two guys for Westbrook’s expiring.
Maybe a team perhaps that had high expectations but it’s not working out. I could see that happening.
My Knicks love doing that, too. No star will probably ever sign here with Dolan running the show but they’re always ‘in on’ everyone.
They just run a 15:1 ratio on local beat (BS) writers (NYK as well)
Nothing more/nothing less
Real Laker fans know there’s nowhere to go run and hide in 2023. Real fans know it’s better to just take our lumps next year and enter free agency THEE Major player in 24. We shall see what Jeanie thinks soon which is all that matters tho
CapnCrunch, yes that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. They have to sleep in the bed they made with Westbrook. It’s his last year just make the best of it and try to win. Next summer Lakers are in great shape and can sign and spend and trade freely.
If Nets are smart they will gladly let Kyrie walk. Not worth the drama and instability. He’s been in the league 10 years and still hasn’t had one single season where both he and his team are happy.
Correct 1,000 percent
A talented player who thinks he can play when ever he wants
He’s clearly right about that. Today is Juneteenth for a reason. He’s not a slave. He has the talent & he has the power. Ik yall are salty about all of those things but you’re gonna have to accept them
Have to “accept them,” Sankara? No, I don’t. I don’t have to pay millions to a player who’s shown repeatedly that he cannot be counted on to play. He’s got talent, certainly, but I think you overestimate his power. He has the power to reject offers, but he doesn’t have the power to force them to be made.
Lol well I guess it’s a good thing you have no millions & no decision making responsibility. The people with the millions & the ability to offer lucrative nba contracts have shown time & time again how valuable Kyrie is. As an elite nba player he wields a great deal of power. This past season should have been obvious proof of that. The league bended to his demands & he even influenced NYC mayoral policy. Not to mention how he orchestrated his moves to Boston & Brooklyn. You say he doesn’t have the power to forces moves, I guess you forgot about his trade from Cleveland to Boston lol. You’re blind if you can’t see how powerful Kyrie is. LaChat said it best, you don’t have to like it but you’ll learn to respect it lol
I see your point. Do you think the power you say he has will translate into a max offer with the team he wants?
Yea I do. I’ve said it at least twice in these comments already. I think he resigns with Brooklyn for the max or something very close to it. If not Brooklyn he’ll be somewhere playing on a max contract, most likely in a big market & on a title contender
You make a lot of solid points. I just wonder however about the point where teams weigh his incredible talent against the various issues he brings, too. At the end of the day, players like him are akin to investments. Where is the line drawn?
Entitlement. Reality will hit when he becomes irrelevant.
Lol you must have just started watching basketball last yr or something. This guy is a champion, gold medalist & more.
Scared him with the word “investment”.
The Knicks past desperation for a good coach and a good PG have never been great enough to hire Thibs or trade for Kyrie.
Neither one of them have the mental capacity to do the jobs they are being hired to do.
Thibs just isn’t smart enough and he’s too petty.
Kyrie just doesn’t care at all and you can’t make him. He’s rich & famous. At best you can get him mad enough to play hard for a whole year but I wouldn’t bet a months income.
Kyrie is the last player I’d want on my team…he’s a selfish self-centered knucklehead who could less about anybody else but himself. Brooklyn would be way better off without this idiot on their team
Lol how many alt accounts are u gonna make to let us know how much u hate Kyrie Irving?
This is my only account and I do agree with the other “Kyrie Haters” that he is a pariah and provides no value to any team he’s on. Brooklyn needs to punt on this fool of a player and move on. Let him play in China where that country will really “embrace” his anti-vac status…
Lol @ i agree with the Kyrie haters.. smh dude u embarrassed your whole family tree wit that 1… actually maybe u just come from a family of haters lol that’s probably what it is