There’s a good chance that the Nets, who have a surplus of wings, will trade at least one of their veterans this offseason, writes Brian Lewis of The New York Post (subscription required). Brooklyn stocked up on two-way wings at the trade deadline, acquiring Mikal Bridges, Cameron Johnson, and Dorian Finney-Smith in deals with Phoenix and Dallas.
Bridges looks like a player the Nets will build around, and while Johnson will reach free agency this summer, Brooklyn can control that process since he’ll be a restricted free agent. In Lewis’ view, that leaves Finney-Smith and Royce O’Neale as the two wings most likely to be on the trade block this offseason. For his part, Finney-Smith is very aware that more changes could be coming to the Nets’ roster in the coming months.
“Everybody here knows what’s going on, we know the pieces we have and you just never know in this league,” he said. “So I guess we’re going to see after the draft. See what’s going on and go from there.”
According to Lewis, while there’s a belief that the Nets could move one of their three-and-D wings to try to balance their roster, people around the NBA also think the club may trade one of its first-round picks in order to add scoring and/or rebounding. Brooklyn currently controls two consecutive first-rounders at No. 21 and No. 22 in this year’s draft.
Here’s more from around the Atlantic:
- If the Celtics were to make Jaylen Brown available this offseason, there would be “robust demand” from “a lot” of teams around the league, ESPN’s Zach Lowe said on The Lowe podcast prior to Boston’s Game 4 victory (hat tip to RealGM). Although Brown has struggled in the Eastern Conference Finals vs. Miami, it’s obviously not groundbreaking news that a 26-year-old All-NBA wing would be popular on the trade market. Brown, who has one year left on his contract, will be super-max eligible this offseason, but wouldn’t be able to sign a super-max deal if he’s traded.
- Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer believes that Nick Nurse should be atop the Sixers‘ wish list as they seek a new head coach, arguing that the team would benefit from Nurse’s outside-the-box thinking. According to Shams Charania of The Athletic, Nurse will have interviewed with the Sixers, Bucks, and Suns by week’s end and is believed to be at or near the top of the list for all three jobs. If Nurse is their top choice, the 76ers may need to accelerate their search process in order to avoid losing him to Milwaukee or Phoenix, observes Kyle Neubeck of PhillyVoice.com.
- A perfect offseason for the Raptors would see the team hire Monty Williams as its head coach and trade Pascal Siakam to Portland in a package headlined by Anfernee Simons and this year’s No. 3 pick, Eric Koreen of The Athletic contends. In his proposed scenario, Koreen also envisions Toronto drafting Scoot Henderson, re-signing Jakob Poeltl, letting Gary Trent Jr. walk, signing-and-trading Fred VanVleet to Chicago, using the mid-level exception to sign Donte DiVincenzo, and flipping Simons to Memphis in a deal for Tyus Jones and Luke Kennard.
The sixers going to bring in D’Antoni to make Harden happy. Going to be a long off season for us sixers fans
To be fair, D’Antoni might be able to get Embiid to stop standing in the lane and waiting for a pass so he can post up. Man needs to actually play to his versatility; the way he’s currently playing is a large part of why he hasn’t been good in the playoffs.
I am not interested in D’Antoni
The Sixers were diddling around with D’Antoni and then Doc Rivers became available and they swooped down and hired Rivers, which made me very happy at the time, I wanted Rivers and they got him
I can’t see going back to D’Antoni and I am not sure who I am interested in… I would not mind Vogel, but there is no favorite this time with me
I really like J. Brown and i think he can win alongside Tatum, im not of those who think they can’t coexist. But I don’t think he is worth the supermax. He is awesome but supermax should be for the #1 IMO because you lose a lot of flexibility to reshape the roster in the future if you commit that amoun of money on your #2.
They should explore moving him but only pull the trigger if its a total steal for them, if not resign him at the super-max and hope for the best.
Why would the Raptors move Simon’s for role players?
You draft Scoot, keep Simons and you S&T both Trent and FVV. Plenty of interest in those 2.
A backcourt of Simons and Scoot would instantly become the worst defensive backcourt in the NBA. Simons isn’t a good defender in any way, even against smaller guards, and Scoot is even smaller than him and a rookie. You want to play Simons in the backcourt of a winning team, he needs a PG who is a great defender and can cover for his weaknesses. He’s a good player, but he has built-in limitations that he hasn’t, to this point, shown that he can work around.
than why even make that trade. essentially give up a star player for bench pieces and #3. Raps might as well just trade Siakam To a team willing to give up multiple firsts than this ridiculous scenario
Granted, I could see Simons becoming a great complement to Scottie Barnes being played at the point the way the Raptors did a lot last year, but is that worth Siakam? Especially if they end up drafting Scoot? I don’t think so.
For what it’s worth, Koreen’s proposed trade with Portland includes more pieces (Toronto’s No. 13 pick to the Blazers; Nassir Little and lightly protected 2026 and 2028 Portland first-rounders to the Raptors). I’m not sure the Blazers would give up that much, but it’s not just No. 3 and Simons.
The article mentioned flipping Simons to Memphis for Tyus Jones and Luke Kennard for what it’s worth.
Flip simons to jazz for cheaper sexton. Pickup Caruso from bulls.
Bulls dump balls 40mm off to jazz
Jazz get portland 3
Jazz move gay jones or other roll players and
Each teams is now under the tax if they so choose and have upgraded their Lebron metric.
Found upside while moving bad contracts etc
To me
The most attractive news is
Lakers trade for Trae Young
Lakers trade for Jalylen Brown
Rockets make offer to Austin Reaves
The last thing the Lakers need is an inefficient, defense-lacking PG. The lane is already clogged enough for them as-is. In that scenario, they’d be better off matching the offer, to play Reaves at the point and then trying to upgrade at the 2.
Austin Reaves max offer from other teams is
5-year $99MM
I am not sure I am correct.
I’m pretty sure his max is 80 million. Which is still a lot for a breakout player. But Trae Young isn’t a good fit for the Lakers in the slightest.
Trae would stand in the corner and shoot, LeBron would still be the PG. With the attention that AD and James draw Young would basically be wide open. All for naughty though as the Lakers don’t have the assets to trade for Young.
I’d like to trade Jaylen Brown to Portland for 3rd pick and Simons and then trade Smart.
Who do you trade Smart for? And who to you play at the point? Brogdon? Honest questions, I’m not trying to belittle anyone.
Celtics didn’t miss a beat with White at the point when Smart was hurt last year.
I could see Simons and White working, but it also seems like a downgrade from Smart + Brown.
Was thinking the same thing, #3 Simons and another 1st for Brown.
C’s still competitive with Simons while getting a huge prospect in either Miller or Scoot.
Portland get that Star to play with Lillard/take the reins in Brown. Then a smart FA and they become big contenders in the west.
Really good trade idea for both sides.
Also @ EonADS if they draft Scoot he would likely play the point then Simons at the 2 not the biggest back court but possibly a very good one. I wouldn’t trade Smart either but just backing up the statement.
Even trade #3 to Hou for #4 and another 1st, then draft Amen who’s game fits JT’s and defender could cover Simons.
I would argue that trying to play Simons alongside Scoot would just devolve into an inferior version of the already negative backcourt of Lillard and Simons. Scoot is probably going to be a great NBA player, but unlike other small backcourts like the Cavs, neither is a good defender. Simons is an outright subpar defender. The Celtics could mitigate that by playing Brogdon and White often, but is that actually an upgrade at that point? It seems more like moving Brown and playing salvage because he’s too expensive, rather than trying to improve the team. They need a true playmaker rather than trying to remake the wheel.
@EonADS thats a Fair argument. Especially size wise and agree Simons is beyond poor on D. But I will argue the point about Scoot and defence. He already looks like a good defender and will only get better. Height is the issue agreed.
I think trading Brown for a 20+ ppg player and one of two players with AllNBA ceiling in Scoot/Miller and another future 1st would be a good result. It may be a short term downgrade I agree, but we all know that Brad can make good moves. But it’s worth the risk if you’re not sure brown is happy, which seems like an issue every year. And to play the devil’s advocate they could even trade Simons in a package for a strong defender like OG and have a BC of Smart Scoot.
PS regarding the Cavs. Both Mitchell and Garland are poor defenders. But their front court make up for it.
Mitchell isn’t nearly as bad as he looks on paper; he’s about average for a shooting guard. And Garland is a net neutral defender, which is actually better than most point guards.
Based on the eye test, Mitchell looks good when putting off shooters but he loses his man too much for a guy as quick & agile as him IMO and being 6’1” he’s already at a disadvantage at the SG but his hops help a bit.
I think Cle had the best def rating LY(I could be wrong) but that wasn’t down to them by any means they can thank the big men for that.
I didn’t think garland was neutral or good either I thought he was negative rtg?(again could be wrong)…. Not sure if it’s his very small frame but he gets bullied too easily even for his size.
Found those two frustrating on D at times this year, Cavs were my pick to go deep this POs. I do really like their set up, very fun to watch this year. Be nice to see how they improve it this year.
Opponents with Garland as the nearest defender shot at the league average from basically every distance this year. So yeah, net neutral. His hustle makes up for his lack of size.
Mitchell’s biggest problem is that he’s counted on to defend people around screens and plays, rather than being a Point of Attack defender where he’s at his best. Starting 2-guards in general are weak defenders in the modern NBA. Desmond Bane, Malik Beasley, Cam Thomas, and Anthony Edwards are all roughly equivalent or weaker defenders than Mitchell despite being bigger than him.
I was basing based on is def rating being somewhere like 114 vs the overall team 109 or something. But I stand corrected and learnt something new so I hold my hands up. Eye test says he’s a liability but if you’re right he’s better than I thought.
I wouldn’t call Cam Thomas a starter, but I’d replace with Jalen Green and agree with your point a lot of starting SGs aren’t great on D but a good balance and ability to switch is always important. I still don’t see them as a “good” defensive backcourt though.
Cavs back court has defense and it’s not poor. The reality is the team is inconsistent on offense and defense relative to their team trade market of defense.
Cavs will get better as they make some adjustments. Spida defense improved from the jazz. Will see if they can get the right match ups as the Knicks caused them problems and also played better then their normal.
You are delusional if you think the Celtics will trade Brown for Simons, no offense to Simons.
@Roi this is all just spit balling chatter. And it wasn’t just Simons is it #3 is worth more than Simons on its own.
And considering Brown is a UFA after next season his value isn’t as high as it should be as he’s a flight risk rental. If he gets traded there’ll most likely be a lot of disappointment from the Celtics fans in the level of return they get for him.
A long term locked up brown is LY Mitchell trade plus. A 1 year UFA Brown is much less.
True…brown doesn’t have the same years as spida but boston could give him a contract and trade making it similar.
Brown won’t get a super max that way but no team can offer that but boston.
At that point just give him max and trade.
Why would brown not accept once boston say no super max? Maybe he thinks free agency is better but its the same money but … team selection is a potential issue. Several teams interested in brown.
Jazz could do it direct. Could go three team with hornets. Also could do four team hornets and Portland. Both have 2, 3 pick which jazz would like access to. Jazz can send out two quality players and contracts with Clarkson and sexton. Move some role players like gay and jones.
All these teams when on the cap and luxury tax issue.
New cba is going to crush teams. It’s why it won’t work for boston. This warriors crap where you can way over spend is done. Major restrictions involved.
Brown should be moved now while his value can be like Spida.
Brown will get traded because it’s a players league and he will want to be paid. Boston has been great with him and brown has benefited. The market wants him and will pay 4 picks.
Here how it goes down and once again trader Ainge is involved but it’s not for brown. Jazz have the assets for sure but will instead help the hornets and the blazers get what they want.
Hornets send out 4 firsts. They keep their 2023 2nd. Get jazz to send a first while using their first without violating rules.
Boston get sexton which is young with major upside as we have seen in the past. Team friendly contract. Boston is under the luxury tax and has a future . Gay and jones are in the trade while Williams is gone on a sandt. Jazz wanted him and will get him regardless of brown is the rumor. Boston takes a step back on paper but has upside with cap and picks.
Hornets fans are stubborn and want to keep their pick and draft scoot or miller. They get brown and give up the three picks.
Also rozier to jazz. Keep Gordon as he is expiring so brown deal kicks in and they stay under the cap. Have room to bring back their core. Lebron metric shows massive upside.
Also have future generational talent to go with their star in brown.
Jazz improve but have cleared out all former jazz players on their rebuild. Build around Laurie and kessler while getting 3,9,16 dang!
Have 2023 seconds and future seconds rounding out til 2029. Give up a 2027 that is an extra.
Portland get the magician. Clarkson is a veteran playing excellent! Improves the team.
Jazz send back a pick while taking on simons that is more money then Clarkson.
Assumption is Clarkson opts out and sign new deal that is still favorable. He will get longer terms and more pay for his age with Portland. Also can take sexton cheaper and snd Clarkson to boston. Jazz don’t care!
So if Clarkson won’t sign terms that work the. Flip sexton into it and it’ll all work.
Crazy deal!
Blockbuster for sure!
What do you think of the that?
“Brown will get traded because it’s a players league and he will want to be paid.”
Celtics can pay him far more than anyone else.
Very true! Boston is the only team that can offer the super max.
Boston will not only pay but in more ways then we can count. New cba really discourages tax payer and second level apron will shut down teams from growing.
Just stupid to pay a number two a super max.
As much as I love nba and super stars…teams can’t have that and still survive long term.
Best for brown and boston to work together. Find a new home and get as much back in value as possible.
This hypothetical has 4 picks and quality player on a team friendly contract. One can swap sexton with Clarkson. It all works!
The key is understanding why boston hornets jazz and trail blazer would work together to improve and solve their roster issue and cap space.
I can strip this hypothetical to one or several teams involved.
The point was to show how to get max value while teams retaining their core and solving players demands.
The same time keeping fans happy.
Totally get how talented brown is and why boston would be tempted to do a super max.
Hard enough to keep him on a max. Tatum and brown will cost more then half the cap. Dang!
Can’t afford that for long as new cba will show teams what a mistake that is.
What I do is look for teams motivations and the use the trade machine.
Teams with cap like spurs and jazz are the easiest to work with.
Once again, I need to know the teams number one and two and then build hypothetical around that. Easier to see where players will land and for how much.
I agree that there would be high demand for Brown, if available. In a vacuum, I believe he’s a more valuable asset than Donavan Mitchell, and would be priced that way in the market.
Problem is Brown has only 1 year left on his deal. If BOS does not offer him the super max (and he’s thus limited to the 30% max wherever he is) I doubt he’s going to extend with BOS or any BOS trade partner unless it’s his clear choice of destinations. Unlike Mitchell, Durant and others, Brown will be UFA at year’s end. Thus, a rental. So, the trade package might look more like what TOR gave SAS for Kwahi, than the Mitchell and Durant trades.
The state of FA in the league (non-existent, in substance, for All NBA players his age), suggests that Brown, in that situation, would be wise to become a UFA. With a year’s notice, teams might find it beneficial to just open up cap space, vs pay BOS a King’s ransom. Brown benefits by being able to join a stronger team that hasn’t depleted its assets to get him.
I wouldn’t say more valuable then spida but just as important. Boston would be wise to build around Tarim and trade brown while he has peak value. Otherwise, free agency will come and they will get less while he moves on.
No doubt several teams would love to have brown and would pay a premium for him.
Mavs, Portland, raptors, jazz, hornets, spurs, …let’s stop there for now.
Jazz can straight up trade for brown. Jazz will get Williams as rumored and can afford both.
Let’s treat jazz as a facilitator with common interests. Ainge knows both the players and execs. He is known for doing deals and is good at it.
Brown to hornets
This makes lots of sense. Hornets wil have to decide so they keep the 2nd pick or move it or simply convince jazz to take rozier. Send pick first and 4 seconds.
Jazz send sexton and 2 picks to boston.
Opposite is true where boston gets three picks and deals direct to jazz. 2023 2025 2027 protected.
Jazz may send Clarkson instead as he opts out . 21 5 5 on cheaper but best pay raise he has had. He is the magician!
Lots of ways to move brown.
The easiest to get a deal done is with jazz or on three team.
If hornets have up their 2nd to jazz then jazz could give four picks. Move a bunch of players around.
Could hornets send rozier back and would they send the 2nd and 2023 and seconds for brown?
Teams are doing deals at a premium which is why brown should be moved.
TLDR
So true
Brown has more trade value than Mitchell because he has the most premium skill set. It’s the reason that Miller could go over Scoot.
UTH as a facilitator? Obviously, you’re a UTH fan. Problem is UTH doesn’t have the elite asset that BOS would want, and will likely get, as the lead asset in a Brown deal. CHA, on the other hand, has two such elite assets, LaMelo and the #2 pick. BOS would want 1 of those 2 as the lead asset.
UTH fan or not, not sure why you believe such nonsense as 1) Sexton being a desire asset (he’s not), 2) CHA wanting to salary dump Rozier (they don’t), 3) CHA being in the salary dump market at all (they’re under the salary floor), 4) protected picks will matter in deal for Brown as anything more than filler (they don’t, FYI, a lottery protected 1st is generally the maximum price paid for a salary dump), 5) UTH, on the basis of being a facilitator, could ever wind up with an asset like #2 pick in the draft, or 6) that any team (other than UTH) would consider Ainge’s involvement in a deal anything but a gigantic negative. The #2 pick in this draft is an elite asset, there could be a perennial All NBA player available there.
I like your opinion.
Not a fan of any particular team but I am familiar with ainge and many of these players. Sexton is a team friendly contract. He is a micro scorer and has quick speed.
Clarkson is a veteran in his prime. Highly respected and wanted by teams. He will be opting out. Those two could be interchangeable for this hypothetical trade.
2: rozier is being used assuming hornets bring back their core. They don’t have to. But the advantage is they have their rights.
Most fans want scoot. Some agree miller is a better fit. Won’t matter because they get to choose by keeping the pick.
They will need the jazz as a third team.
I use the jazz a lot in hypotheticals because they are rebuilding and have the most flexibility. Also have the most connections for good better or worse with Ainge
I like to joke that mj and Ainge will settle it with a bet on the golf course.
Their is major history between all these people and teams.
Why stop there… Portland needs help so we use the jazz again.
Four way trade solves real issues and aren’t just hypothetical.
Love your points on picks values and players.
Oh, not really a salary dump as we used rosier. Good player when available.
Gordon is the bad contract. Way over paid.
Left Gordon so the hornets could afford brown after year one. Cap management there but Gordon would love to go back to Utah. Strange but true!
We do know hornets and blazers willing to shop their 2,3 picks.
This hypothetical was based upon the hornets wanting it. I know of many teams willing to trade for it but most fans say no.
Consequence is the hornets have bad contracts. Will be stuck trying to figure out how to develop the talent and will have other issues from mismanagement imo
The question is about Portland?
I think they should keep the pick but Lillard wasn’t a veteran looks like Lillard calling the shots. I’d trade him but every fan says no but the smart ones. Big Investment. Very few can afford Lillard. Spurs and jazz can!
Best team for Lillard is Portland. He is the face and brand there. He is a favorite of mine.
Portland issue is how do they pay grant!
Over pay In coming. Simons will have to go. Upgrade simons with Clarkson.
Send the pick 3 to jazz and they can send another back protected based upon your value of picks and dumps.
The four way trade works.
It gives more wins to all these teams except for boston on paper.
Getting those picks 4 is the deal and it keeps them out of the tax. Big deal! New cba will crush teams.
People just don’t understand what a super max does. Can’t realistically keep Tatum and brown and still have a team. Boston is weak on draft capital.
This Is the best time to get a haul before he becomes a free agent and they get nothing.
Big decisions in boston but brown will get a max and maybe a super max if boston is nuts.
FYI lots of team will be calling the jazz to use their cap space and flexibility.
Only seems like I’m a jazz fan but if that makes me a fans then so be it.
I’m just playing gm with my nba trade machine. It’s fun!
Imo this year draft is super hyped. More busts in the draft then stars. And yes you want the higher pick in order to find that talent. More bust then boom. Brown is a star!
Role players will be needed though or stars complain.
That would be 1 way to continue the ineptitude of the Nets. Accumulate good rosters, never come close to using it correctly, then get rid of good/valuable pieces for no reason
Jaylen Brown will be requesting a trade to Miami this offseason to play with Miami.
No he won’t.
Agree … too many other suitors that can pay spida like value. Brown needs to cooperate but why wouldn’t he for a max?
Super max can only be by boston.
Boston likely moves him if they are offered solid stuff.
Though the jazz can do a deal direct why not think bigger like 3 or 4 team deal.
Boston hornets jazz Portland all team up.
JB will get his super max deal, after a year if he’ll decided he doesn’t want to stay, he can always ask for a trade – this way he doesn’t leave any money on the floor and also still have a shot for a championship.
If Boston trade him, they actually screw him because I think he can’t get super max if he’s traded?
Mostly likely they sign Brown to a Supermax, make a few tweaks and run it back. Making the finals last year and the ECF this year is hardly a recipe for blowing it up. Even though maybe they should.
Boston will screw themselves up if they offer a supermax. Only team that can but would benwise to get under the luxury tax asap and get picks back while the market is paying a premium. New cba is going to destroy teams in the tax and second apron. No more over pay and warriors crap.
Boston can get 3 to 4 picks with players too or without. Jazz will be key as they have picks and cap and that trader Ainge.
Ainge knows all and can get a deal done.
Brown is fools gold for boston like Lillard for blazers. Way hard to build a team when one or two players take up the cap.
Only boston can sign brown to supermax.
Boston would be making a mistake doing that as brown is not a number one. Waiting only hurts boston not brown. Brown hasn’t earned a super max but is entitled to one. Brown has warned a max making him trade able too.
Boston can get like 4 picks and players in return. Can trade direct with jazz or three team or 4 teams or between hornet blazers too.
The jazz will go after Williams whether boston likes it oe not. Best to sign and trade him. Get sexton or Clarkson. Clarkson will opt out for sure. Get under the tax cause new cba sucks.
Gay and jones to boston or hornets as fillers.
Hornets get a home run in brown and also keep the 2nd. Send out three to boston and it’s 5 seconds to jazz. Portland get a pick and move simons while getting either Clarkson or sexton.
This is massive for hornets. Still awesome for jazz and blazers. Blazers get under the tax if they close too as well I’d cut one of their over paid player or resign for a fraction … they can get grant back on a huge contract. Not worth it but that’s what they want.
It all works and boston is still very good. Has loads of picks and has better cap and less tax issues. So important!
What you all think?
76ers won’t touch D’antoni if Harden is leaving. I’m hoping they stay away from Nurse as well.
I’d like JJ Redick, Monty, Vogel or Cassell to coach them.
I hope Harden returns, but all signs point to no so far. Hopefully a s&t can be set up Harden for Porter Jr & a 1st rd pick (top 14 protection) for Harden if he leaves, and then make sure to resign Paul Reed to play the 4. Trade Tobias, PorterJr, & 2 1sts to TOR for FVV & OG?
I don’t think there’s need to overcomplicate this thing.
Hornets deal #2 + 2 future 1sts to the Celtics
Celtics deal Brown to Hornets
3rd team takes Hayward and a 1st.
Blazers deal #3 + Simons + 2 additional 1sts to the Celtics
Celtics deal Brown to the Blazers
Detroit would be an intriguing option, as would OKC. Obviously any team with assets is at least in the conversation.
That’s so complicated!
How is the blazers going to afford brown and Lillard?
That’s like the same issue boston is running into. They can keep brown but at a high cost
All these teams better get under the luxury tax because the new cab will heavily penalize teams.
Boston can get like 4 picks on a three team trades
Hornets will want to keep Gordon if getting brown. Better off moving rozier.
No doubt keeping it simple matter.
How about just trade brown to jazz?
Maybe jazz don’t want to pay 3,4,5 picks etc but they have the cap and picks.
That’s simple and spurs have the cap and picks but not trader Ainge.
Totally agree it’s not complicated. The fact is teams will have to determine how to compromise of they want max value.