When the Kings and Raptors discussed a possible Pascal Siakam trade, the two teams are believed to have talked about a package that would have included Harrison Barnes, Kevin Huerter, Davion Mitchell, and a first-round pick, Michael Scotto of HoopsHype said on the latest episode of the HoopsHype podcast.
Shams Charania reported earlier in the week that Sacramento wanted to get a deal done quickly and pulled out of those talks when Toronto didn’t immediately accept the Kings’ initial offer. However, James Ham of The Kings Beat and ESPN 1320, appearing with Scotto on the HoopsHype podcast, said he thinks the Kings would still be in on Siakam if they felt more confident about their chances of re-signing him.
While Ham hasn’t been able to independently confirm the reporting of his ESPN 1320 colleague Damien Barling, he told Scotto that Barling has heard from his sources that Siakam made it clear he wouldn’t re-sign with Sacramento if the team were to acquire him.
Reports dating back to June have suggested that Siakam would be unwilling to re-sign with a team that trades for him — or at least would maintain that stance. The two-time All-Star would be eligible for a super-max contract during the 2024 offseason if he makes an All-NBA team this season, but only if he’s still a Raptor, as a trade would make him ineligible. With those financial considerations in mind, it makes some sense that Siakam might want to dissuade teams from trading for him.
It’s also worth noting that Michael Grange of Sportsnet.ca reported over the weekend that the Kings aren’t interested in giving Siakam a standard (non super-max) maximum-salary contract. If that’s accurate and that was conveyed to the 29-year-old, it could also explain why he’d be hesitant to commit to Sacramento.
Here’s more on the Kings from Scotto and Ham:
- Scotto has heard that the Kings and Bulls at least briefly discussed Zach LaVine earlier in the season. Barnes and Huerter came up in those talks, according to Scotto, who adds that Chicago likes Huerter and has done some background research on him. However, Ham is unconvinced that LaVine is a top target for Sacramento, given Mike Brown‘s focus on defense and LaVine’s massive contract.
- Ham views Wizards forward Kyle Kuzma as a player who might be a better fit for Sacramento, noting that he has a more modest contract and pointing out that the Kings nearly traded Buddy Hield to the Lakers during the 2021 offseason for a package that would’ve included Kuzma. The team also had interest in Kuzma this past offseason, per Ham, but ultimately decided to extend Barnes to address the power forward position.
- The Kings will hold Early Bird rights on Malik Monk when he reaches free agency this offseason, giving them the ability to offer up to $78MM over four years. Ham isn’t sure if that will be enough to retain the sharpshooting guard, who is averaging a career-best 14.8 points per game and a 41.2% three-point percentage, noting that he expects Monk to “chase money” if he gets an offer well above what Sacramento could put on the table. For what it’s worth, I’d be a little surprised if there’s a team willing to offer Monk much more than $20MM per year, but we’ll see how his season – and the market – plays out.
- Ham says he asked a team source last year whether the Kings would be willing to trade Keegan Murray in a deal for Jazz forward Lauri Markkanen and was told, “No, we believe he’ll be better than Markkanen.”
- While Ham doesn’t expect the Kings to fill their 15th roster spot with a rest-of-season signing prior to the trade deadline, he views two-way player Keon Ellis as a prime candidate to claim that spot if it’s still open after the deadline. “They have a lot of faith in who he is as a player and what he’s becoming,” Ham said of Ellis.
Word is Siakam told kings officials he wouldn’t re up with them if they traded for him. Kings are said to be in talks with the bulls for Lavine(remember kings initially offered Lavine a max deal after bulls traded for him, he was a rfa, and Bulls matched the offer). Likely for Huerter, Barnes, Davion with 2 firsts
Where are you getting any of this? LaVine doesn’t fit on this roster and his contract doesn’t fit this teams time line. And any deal for anyone is Huerter, HB, Davion and draft cap. That is all Sac has to offer.
Btw, Kings offered that deal to LaVine 6 years ago…
Google bulls and kings trade talk for Lavine. It’s not that hard, everything is easily found.
And that was before Monte McNair joined the team as GM. People need to give the LaVine-Kings “rumors” a rest. It’s not happening.
The runor is there, google it. Don’t take it personal.
Don’t believe everything you read. It’s 99 percent BS.
Don’t take sports comments to heart, you don’t need to add stress to your life.
If you can’t resign him then you don’t trade for him. Personally imo Raptors should keep him. They can add talent around their top 6-7 guys. Plus it seems he doesn’t want to leave Toronto. You add a rim protector to backup Poeltl. Now you have something.
Siakam is screwing the raps.
Or are the Raptors screwing him? I don’t really blame him. He wants the max.
Maybe max money on a contract similar to FVV, but noway on a 4 or 5 year max deal.
He’s not going to be a super max player if he stays with raps. He’ll get paid no matter where he goes, but to tell teams there is zero chance he’ll sign with them is screwing the raps. Maybe he won’t? Maybe he will? I’m sure he’ll go where the $ is greatest. Not sure if he has bird rights if traded. I believe he doesn’t but could be wrong.
I like this trade for Siakam : warriors get Siakam, Otto /
Jazz get Kuminga, Moody, CP3.. 2 GS picks and one raps first /
Raps get Markkanen, John Collins.
Trade 2:
OKC gets Siakam, Otto, Zach Collins/
Spurs get Giddey, Pokusevski, Tre Mann, Micic 2 firsts from OKC/
Raps get Keldon Johnson, Kendrich Williams, Bertans and a first round pick from OKC
This trade really misses the mark. Siakam is better than Markkanen and Collins is a negative asset. Absolutely not happening.
Warriors give up Kuminga/Moody/ an injured CP3 and 2 picks for half a season of Spicy P?
OKC gives up Giddy and 3 firsts for half a season of Spicy P?
Idk who you are but the comments you’ve left on just this post are scary
Yea I don’t post for notoriety. I also don’t care about impressing strangers. Those articles of that exact trade are on raptorsrepublic.com
If Woj or Shams uttered it you would give them a like.
Well we have to all wait and see what transpires.
Siakam isn’t better than Markkanen, Spaced-Cowboy. He’s a better playmaker, but Markkanen is a better scorer in terms of both efficiency and versatility. They’re about equal on defense. Their overall value is almost identical. Both All-Star/borderline All-NBA PFs. Just different skillsets.
If there was any player the Raps would want to target from the Jazz in a potential 3-team, it’s probably Kessler. He’d actually fit the team’s strategy better than Poeltl. But they don’t have much to discuss at present.
Spaced cowboy??? So much for mature debates. Pistons may actually pursue him, just like OKC might. Bogdanovic, Wiseman and Ivey for Siakam and McDaniels. OKC can throw in Bertans, Jaylin Williams and other young pieces. I don’t see raps wanting Giddey as he and Barnes have over lapping skill sets and raps don’t pursue players with sexual assault cases pending. I’m aware that Markkanen is only the better scorer and Collins has 3 more years on his deal. That doesn’t mean raps have to keep Collins obviously.
Spaced-Cowboy is the username of one of the people who replied to you. I was replying to HIM.
“Spaced-Cowboy • 4 hours ago
This trade really misses the mark. Siakam is better than Markkanen and Collins is a negative asset. Absolutely not happening.”
Did you see that and just assume I was insulting you? Like… what?? What kind of insult even is that?
Point taken, my mistake. Lol. Insults don’t move me either way if it was but appreciate the clarification. I didn’t even look at his name like that.
I have been Markkanen’s biggest supporter here since the draft. I don’t give up on anyone under 25. But he’s not better than Siakam. They are different fits both can be valuable to their teams. Personally I take Siakam at PF.
Yea I don’t think anyone is trying to be insulting here. I just don’t see how a negative asset in Collins, coupled with Markkanen gets you Siakam. Don’t care who the source is, it’s not even close to being a trade. Raps trying to get younger, not bogged down with bad contracts.
Siakam’s June position is irrelevant now. Forget the super max. Even if he makes All-NBA, and stays with TOR through the end of the year, he won’t get that. TOR hasn’t offered him even the regular max. SAC has indicated they weren’t interested in paying him regular max either. He’s indicated he won’t sign for less than max. Which, at a minimum, means he’s going to test the UFA market.
Teams take chances, but the risk/reward of having Siakam as a rental might actually favor TOR keeping him, particularly if they continue to play well.
Roster still needs some help but at least it makes sense now. Makes trading Siakam now way less urgent.
And despite what many people say the tax isn’t an issue until Scottie also gets paid. Based on the tax being calculated at year end they have lots of runway to decide what to do if they extend Pascal. That is 2 and 1/2 season away. Meaning 3 deadlines and 2 off seasons. It’s possible by then the team is good enough they consider being a tax team even.
Not many will point this out though since it kills their favored narrative of Toronto needing to blow it up. That conveniently includes sending their preferred team someone in the process lol.
I think Ujiri made the decision not to blow it up when he made the Anunoby trade. When you have 3 starters like Barnes, Barrett and Quickley (ages 22-24), you don’t blow anything up. They’re the equivalent of 3-4 years into a rebuild, and ready to start putting the final product together.
I still think dealing Siakam now would be best if they could get a package of a young starter and some FRPs. But if its pedestrian offer packages of secondary assets (a couple protected FRPs and veterans on multi-year deals who don’t really fit), then waiting until the summer could make sense even if they end up resetting. Siakam might, at the end of the day, opt to re-sign for less in the City he knows, and become a trade asset down the line, or there could be a S&T market that nets the same level of secondary assets. Worst case is you clear the books. Forget tanking, build the asset base while building a winning team.
Yea its a retool, not rebuild.
If Kings didn’t even give Kuzma an offer in the offseason I highly doubt they’ll trade for him now. Even though he’s a great fit and he should have been signed.
There are a few here who have called the Knicks-Raptors trade a fleece by Toronto. Then with another post have called RJ a regular player. And have called the Pistons pick they got, “not valuable”.
So how exactly does this make it a “FLEECE”.
I don’t get it. Sounds like speaking
“With Forked Tongue” to me.
Knicks – 5-0
Raptors – 3-2
Since trade …… I will track it for you ALL year. So you can learn to argue.
This trade was about team fit. And that takes time to show. Even that pick takes time to show. Even if you don’t understand what the value of a high 2nd rd pick.
Opinions we all got REAL facts take time to develop.
You know how folks are. Nothing makes sense to them unless it’s from their perspective. They were never told that they were wrong as children and now as adults they grew even more spoiled. It’s hand down a win win for both teams. KYK needed a 3&D guy while raps needed scoring wing and point guard depth,but most of all to get younger while not losing OG for nothing.
See I’ve been getting hate here. Since the rebuild and Thibs coming in. No one has the patience to see things thru anymore. Even Knicks fans. Not easy to rebuild inNY.
I just love this game …..
All of that came as Anunoby became the first player in NBA history to have a plus/minus higher than plus-100 in his first five games with a new team.
link to nypost.com