After going more than a month without engaging in discussions regarding a potential Jonathan Kuminga sign-and-trade, the Kings and Warriors resumed their conversations earlier this week, team sources tell Sam Amick of The Athletic.
According to Amick, the two Pacific Division rivals didn’t make significant progress in those talks, but the fact that they happened at all indicates that Sacramento hasn’t closed the door on making a move for the restricted free agent forward.
The Kings were considered the top rival suitor earlier in the offseason for Kuminga, offering him a three-year, $63MM contract and offering Golden State a package of Malik Monk and a lottery-protected 2030 first-round pick.
As Amick writes, there are a number of reasons why the Warriors turned down that offer. For one, they don’t appear all that enthusiastic about acquiring Monk — there are questions about his fit on the roster, plus his $21.6MM player option for 2027/28 doesn’t appeal to Golden State from a cap perspective. According to Amick, the Warriors would likely want to flip Monk to another team, but it’s unclear if such an opportunity would be available at this point.
Another potential sticking point for the Warriors is the fact that swapping Kuminga straight up for Monk would hard-cap the team at the first tax apron due to base year compensation rules. That would complicate Golden State’s ability to fill out the rest of its roster, including signing Al Horford using the taxpayer mid-level exception.
The Warriors would likely have to trade either Buddy Hield or Moses Moody to a third team to avoid that first-apron hard cap. Prior reporting stated that Golden State didn’t have much interest in taking that route, and Amick suggests that stance has only gotten stronger as of late.
Finally, while Sacramento is unlikely to entirely remove the protections from the 2030 first-round pick they’re including in their offer, the Warriors would likely want those protections lightened in order to seriously consider making a deal with the Kings, Amick continues. In Sacramento’s current offer, the Warriors would receive the least favorable of the Kings’ and Spurs’ 2031 first-rounders if the 2030 pick lands in the lottery.
Recent reporting indicated that Golden State has made new offers to Kuminga, including one three-year, $75MM proposal that includes a third-year team option. However, the 22-year-old’s agent, Aaron Turner, continues to suggest that accepting the $8MM qualifying offer – which comes with a no-trade clause and a clear path to 2026 unrestricted free agency – is a viable option for his client.
Turner told ESPN’s Shams Charania on Wednesday that the Warriors’ insistence on a team option in the final year of their two- and three-year offers has been a sticking point for Kuminga and his reps.
Kuminga has until October 1 to sign his qualifying offer, so resolution should come – one way or another – within the next week.
I’m not a math wiz but… 75 is smaller than 63 right? or is it larger? dang math.
Kuminga, Grimes, and Cam Thomas might go full Nerlens.
Which number is guaranteed?
If he wasn’t offered more than 3/63 by anyone, it tells you his value. The Warriors must think they can trade him on a 3/75. If a team gives up any value for him, they’re more likely to see the deal thru.
Could also mean there wasn’t much cap space around the league this summer, which there wasn’t or that signing restricted free agents is difficult for teams to do which it is because it ties up their money without a guarantee that they can even sign the player.
There were multiple reports of the Bulls and Kings offering Kuminga the contract he’s seeking.
At this point it is obvious Kuminga doesn’t like having Butler on the Warriors…
Getting rid of a cancer in your life is priceless…
Why even report this if the talks went nowhere? All this article does is make the Kings FO look even lower IQ than they already are.
“Hey Warriors, you should give us Kuminga even if it means blowing up your whole team!! Us Kings FO people are SMART!!!”
Oh please Davey….if Monk and a first was offered its your front office who are incompetent.
Not true. Unless they can convince the Rockets to take Monk, that deal stinks.
This rumor is for 1 thing to bring in a third team so the warriors can bring back something worth it for them. Warriors do not want Monk. They do not want to trade Heild. Maybe a team like the Rockets could use Monk. The warriors need to get creative
Yeah right….Monk is a bucket and energy guy off the bench. Easily an upgrade on Podz and Buddy. Since when are the kings first round picks not valuable. Monk is one of the better contracts in the NBA. Coming into his prime too. Good deal for now and the future. I guess losing Kuminga next summer for nothing and having locker room be dysfunctional this season is a much better option.
For warriors to get Monk they would need to add in Heild too. They would also be paying Monk almost teh same over a 3 year period as Kuminga. The 1st rounder the Kings said they would trade is the worse 1st round pick of Spurs (which they own) or kings. Spurs should be very good in 2 years so it will be a pick in the 20s. Maybe now you understand why its a bad deal.
Nrg82, yes, I would agree with NBA OK. Malik monk is decent, but he has three more years on that deal and I don’t think the Warriors want any part of that no matter who the player is unless he’s a star.
Truly shocked that the GS Warriors haven’t tried to make a trade with the Utah Jazz. Could easily see a trade of Cody Williams, Kevin Love and a 2027 FRP (Lakers) for Buddy Hield and Jonathan Kuminga works for both side. Warriors get a 3-D project, veteran stretch 5, and hope for the future. Jazz get their slasher in Kuminga and shooting off the bench from Hield until he’s traded at the deadline.
Jazz Rotation: 1. Collier 2. Bailey 3. Kuminga 4. Markkanen 5. Kessler 6. George 7. Hield 8. Filipowski 9. Sensabaugh 10. Hendricks
Warriors Rotation: 1. Curry 2. Podziemski 3. Butler 4. Green 5. Jackson-Davis 6. Moody 7. Payton II 8. Love 9. Williams 10. Payne
“Your 3rd for our 9th and 10th” what a joke. 0/10 trade proposal.
Love and Williams replacing Kuminga and Hield is a massive, massive downgrade. Shame on you for even thinking this.
Cody Williams’s stock is as low as it gets at the moment. Unless he has a much better second year he’s not moving the needle for anyone, particularly the Warriors. And Love is more of a bench warmer/vet presence at this stage of his career. Basically a downgrade from the Kings offer.
Been reported several times Ainge isn’t interested in Kuminga. He’d be in Utah if he was.
This is a terrible trade for the Warriors
Love isn’t a trade asset hell never get notable minutes again.
Best GSW/Utah trade:
Walker Kessler and Kevin Love for Buddy Hield and a 1st.
Luke I still think this deal could happen with the Karl Anthony Towns-to-the-Knicks loophole, where the Warriors sign and trade 3 of their current FAs elsewhere as part of the deal to match Monk’s incoming salary and allow the Warriors to be a 2nd apron team.
3rd team gets: $8M cash, 2 Warriors future 2nd rounders, Kevin Knox, Pat Spencer, and Taran Armstrong all on 3 yr deals with only the 1st year guaranteed.
Warriors get: Monk and top-4 Kings first rounder
Kings get: Kuminga
Kings then sign Westbrook and Warriors sign Horford and their vet min guys.
GS don’t have 2 tradable 2-nd rounders. 2030 is not tradable because it goes to Washington if the 1st rounder doesn’t convey (Poole-CP3 trade)
And their 2031 is least favourable of Detroit, Minnesota and their own. So basically a pick in the 50s, which is almost worthless.
Warriors don’t want Monk period
How about Sabonis as a starting point………
When I read the headline, I clicked on it with the thought that I was about to read an article about the Kings giving up Sabonis for Kuminga, because that would be the most Sacramento thing ever.
Keagan Murray, cash and two picks for Kuminga
Oh you’re out of your mind lmao
Not enough? Murray is definitely overrated and hasn’t improved since joining the NBA
Way too much. Giving up a young guy for a young guy you’re gonna have to pay PLUS 2 FRPs??? The point of adding JK would be to pair with the young guys, not as a stop gap for the old guys.
That said, in the season GSW would jump on it
I believe J Kuminga is younger and has more potential than Murray. Murray forgot how to shoot 3s last season. He hasn’t really improved. Instead of trading Fox, they should have traded Murray for a PF. At 6’7 Murray is a SF to me. Maybe I went overboard with two picks but one seems like it’s not enough. Kuminga is younger and would fit fine with the other young guys. You are getting younger so your last point doesn’t make sense. Kuminga, Carter, Raynaud, Issac Jones, Clifford and others will be fine without an older Murray. The Kings are getting younger and probably the better player after everything is said and done
Sacramento is not in a position for “probably”. They are about as lost without a compass as you can be. You don’t just ship out draft picks willy nilly when you’re staring down the barrel of another miserable decade. Murray has also consistently been one of the best, if not the only in certain lineups, defensive players on the roster.
For what it’s worth, you’re certainly right about him being a 3. He was funneled into the 4 because the roster was never built around him. Which is why the pairing of he and Kuminga is attractive to the Kings.
And beyond any of that, you’re asking for the Kings to lose both talent and draft capital to get their hands on Kuminga a year early. You’d have like 3% of a point if that trade would somehow make Sacramento a contender this year. But it doesn’t. So why not just wait and give up nothing?
Kuminga should sacrifice the third year player option. Warriors should sacrifice the third year team option. 2 yrs, 50 mil. I think we are all nauseated by this topic that has been drudged along for months.
Kuminga will be traded on his next contract…
He doesn’t want the lack of trust the Warriors have in him…
He doesn’t want a Jimmy Butler level distraction keeping his team lower than the minutes he receives…
Lacob trusts him, Kerr does not. Big difference.
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A no-show job promoting The Sphere? He’d fit right in. Nobody goes there. It is the biggest dog in Vegas. It is way overpriced and a terrible place to see anything.
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Vegas is still recovering fron covid. Why would you care. You rather trash a 22 yr ild.
—- The Countdown. —-
There are now SIX days till Kuminga signs QO …….
There has been extra shipments of Kleenex to the Bay area. …….. and more still on the way.
6 days till Horfird, Melton, Payton ..
Don’t you need the Kleenex. You must have to clean yourself off after all your posts. Or, do you need to use Brawny now?
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I had a thought. im telling you because you are the closest one on here to a traditional sports talk radio host.
what if the sticking point is GSW FO told Kuminga that he’s going to replace Looney in the line up, and Kuminga refused that because it would limit is potential earnings.
and of course the GSW needs to limit Kuminga’s potential earnings for cap space reasons.
Warriors fans cried about Kuminga for two yrs. Now they cry about him leaving. And not getting value for him. Warriors fans cry more about Kuminga than Mavs fans EVER cried about loosing Luka …….
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Angry Al “only posts about ball and not about commentors.”
Ooops.
You know Al, I appreciate when you post basketball stuff. It’s when you post these repeated “crying” comments that just gets old.
Why not change DeRozan in and Malik Monk out?
Contracted for this season and then next season isn’t fully guaranteed so less money and more future flexibility. Not to mention he’s simply the better player.
He’d probably be happy to play off the bench at this point in his career especially with the chance of winning a ring. You get a first round pick back and maybe you ask for a pair of seconds aswell.
For the kings I don’t think they’d mind, Kuminga and Murray would be there forward pair with Clifford the back up. Sabonis the star at centre, Schroder and LaVine in the backcourt with Carter/Ellis and Monk as back ups. No real need to DeRozan.
Yes you give up a first but you’ve got young talent with Carter Ellis Kuminga Murray and Raynaud there, and isn’t the plan to win now anyway.
This is a great idea !!
Actually I think at the 11th hour something like this will probably happen.
Excellent idea and has a lot of truth. More than people here realize.
If he takes QO, it will be lose lose lose scenario for all the parties involved including other teams. Warriors will blink, but they are hoping other teams will also. Either way, Kuminga will get paid and not sugn QO. So far, his stance has worked. Didnt Warriors incrwase from 2 yr $45m to $75m? The offer WILL improve. Or he will get traded. Again, Kuminga will not sign QO. Warriors will blink. You will see.
I wonder if warriors trade him instead of blink. Only reason that reexamine Kings offer is to get a team to want to get in on a 3 way deal. Or the Kings has put Ellis in the trade talks now. Not sure why they made Ellis untouchable. They should go with a 2 year deal and do away with the third year option deal.
Imo makes no sense to keep him around. Best to move him as soon as possible and go to work. It’s all about this year. Horford, Melton, Payton, and what you get for Kuminga. And get ready for a playoff run.
This is the best value you will get for Kuminga. Horford is an excellent pick up. You add depth with Melton and Payton. Hope you get a young talent for Kuminga (a center) that can help. Done
Somebody will offer the warriors a better deal than Kings or Suns offered.
That’s what I mean by blinking. They will trade him or improve offer, they will NOT let him sign QO. It’s the worst possible scenario.
Signing a QO is the least thing the warriors want to do. it means it pushes back the problem.
QO means Warriors lose Kuminga for nothing, and they have to deal with the distaction of having him on the roster for the whole yr. It will be just as awkard as Poole Draymond of that year if not worse.
Best solution I’ve seen. I also just want DeMar off the Kings so I could biased.
This new FO clearly wants to lean on the young guys and see what they have. Murray needs to take an actual step forward for the current core to be much of anything. If he doesn’t, the team will be torn down and they’ll try to hyper focus on Nique’s development.
And as I’ve said a million times, the only time a Kings frp goes up in value is when it goes to someone else. Kind of scary to give the aging Warriors an out via the draft at your expense. But being stagnant accomplishes nothing so go big or go home.
Kuminga is worth 1/2 of 25m for his sleeping on defense. Hope he takes the QO and gets nothing next year.
Kuminga played awesome defense before he was hurt, watch the games.
It’s unfortunate this is all happening. I get this is a business. However, knowing how to negotiate is an art and kuminga agent is doing him no favors.
Both sides are losing, but kuminga stands to lose much more. Especially if he take the QO
Unless your a megastar( kuminga is not) he could very easily lose out on a ton of money. It’s seen many cases in the nba where that money will no longer be there .
It’s extremely rare that a player regains value.
Boogie was one of the few mega stars that never got his bag.
There are MANY others that held out and NEVER again received offers like the ones they turned fine , then just faded from the nba.
Kuminga needs to reconsider , taker 75 mil then later if still unhappy request a trade . Or maybe it all just works out and stays.
But it is way more likely he will regret not taking the 3 year 75 48 mil guaranteed than getting that offer again
Ultimately this whole thing is just a nothingburger. All it does it frustrate the fans in the offseason, which is utterly meaningless. We all don’t matter in this situation. Kuminga will likely stay on the Warriors no matter what we think.
The fact some so-called “fans” are turning on Kuminga for simply wanting to get the most money he can from the #1 highest valued sporting team in the USA really just makes all these so-called “fans” look like the crybaby pissy losers that they are IRL. If Steph/Dray/Jim all signed off on this with “JK is doing the right thing” than so should all of us.
If all this has made you hate Kuminga, you are an idiot who does not know ball. Kuminga has done nothing wrong, and he might have the best attitude in the NBA, he does nothing but smile in every situation!
Davey did you not just have a meltdown about players only needing to make 5 million a year? And anything over that is literally the work of Lucifer? I can’t imagine the amount of goldbond you need after a day of straddling the fence.
I like the new vocab word you learned too. I’ve seen you say “pissy” in like 5 other comments. I wonder which cartoon character said that while you ate your hungry man on the couch.
I absolutely agree dubs Hoops. Most people here don’t and I can’t understand why.
You always take the money.
You worry about principal after you have the money.
Yes.., to a certain degree and of course there’s conditions and exceptions but as far as fit, team, or coach, or where I prefer to live, etc. you take the money and forget all that stuff.
It’s the biggest no-brainer in the history of the NBA And business in general.
Davey, you’ve lost your mind again. Nobody hates Kuminga for going after the bag. In fact, I think most, if not 100% of us, are telling him to do exactly that lol.
“Crybaby, pissy losers?” You’re the biggest hypocrite on here when you complain about terms of use. And you wonder why everyone on the planet is disgusted with your comments? Grow up.
The funny thing is if he takes the QO has a great year every warrior fan would praise him and he would sign a long term extension with the warriors.
He wont sign QO. Warriors will blink.
^ Michol, notice how I never have any smoke for your takes? Because they are good and the logic is always there. Shoutout to you, quality poster!
Kuminga should call Dennis Schroder and find out how betting on one’s self works out in today’s NBA.
Yawn, name another player other than Schroder this happened with. Pathetic comment.
Nerlens Noel, Lance Stephenson, Montrezl Harrell, Victor Oladipo, Boogie Cousins, Latrell Sprewell and bunch of others. No need to be a phallus, Davey.
Oh wow, great list. Forgot about some of those guys standing their ground.
Has it dawned on you yet that you being this much of a crybaby about Kuminga trying to get himself the best possible deal is actually WORSE than Kuminga trying to get himself the best possible deal?
I don’t understand what you’re saying here?
I don’t think there’s anyone on the planet against JK trying to get as much money possible?
Are @NBA is OK and @OhThatYoGirl the same person? You logged out of your main and replied under your alt account – CAUGHT!
Lol not at all, Davey. You just came off unnecessarily nasty when there are a bunch of examples of players who came up short when betting on themselves.
What about all the players who bet on themselves and won? See how shallow this horrible, unnecessary, infuriating take is?
At least now I know its just 1 guy out here on multiple accounts liking all the replies to me to make me look bad.
@Davey J
I was happy to see the reply button for a change so I could respond:
No, that’s just your paranoia showing again.
Kuminga’s using his leverage as he has every right to do, but if he actually gives up $40 mil guaranteed to sign the QO he’s a fool.
He won’t sign the QO, the Warriors always planned on giving him 3/75+PO. Lacob, MDJ and Kerr are likely the ones everyone should be mad at, not JK.
@Davey J
“the Warriors always planned on giving him 3/75+PO”
No matter how many times you post your pure speculation, that doesn’t make it true.
The Warriors want to get a deal done and Turner has said a PO is the only thing they want to get a deal signed. Please explain why the Warriors would have “always planned” on something that’s holding up signing the rest of the roster, since there would be no reason for them to wait to add that to their offer if that was actually the case.
Because the Warriors gameplan has always been “wait until the very last possible minute to see if any wild offers pop up”. They knew everyone else in handicapped, and no other team is going after Horford and Melton because they lack space.
Davey I promise you that you are the only person on here desperate enough to have multiple accounts
I think someone else mentioned DeMarcus Cousins. He held strong and wanted more money.
Most guys are smart and take the cash that’s offered. JK is getting bad advice here. That’s 100% for sure.
Take
The
Money.
“Pathetic comment?” Seriously bro? You can’t see how your language is anathema for others? You can’t see how this puts you in a light of disgust or even borderline delusional ?
I’m trying to help you out. Are you able to have a conversation without insulting people? You wonder why dudes go after you and well I’m telling you right here.
I usually get into trouble trying to fix things. I guess I should wait for people to come to me and desire counseling instead of offering it to those are blind or don’t want it and enjoy being the way they are?
Oh well, I’ve tried a couple times here in this particular article to throw stuff against the wall and see if it sticks.
Fingers crossed. I believe there’s hope for everyone.
Schroeder career turned our fine and he has earned plenty since the fiasco. Who knows, maybe his career would have been over had he signed that 4 yr contract.
That’s absurd. Why would making a lot more $ have made his career be over?
Sure, he’s still made $, but WAY WAY less than if he’d taken the deal. That’s why Kuminga would be foolish to do the same.
Do the math, it’s not way way more. He made up some gap. What i meant is we dont know what would have happened to his motivation and thus career. There are many many players that have shortened their career after big contract. Ben Simmons, Lonzo Ball, John Wall, Beals, on and on. Shroeder has done well unbelievably well with Germany the last few yrs and have done wonders to change his image to perseverance, resilience, and solid vet. The last time I checked he’s making way way more than minimum even now and it’s not one yr contract!
Well, here’s the math:
He turned down $84 mil over 4 years and then signed a 1 year deal with the Celtics for $5.9 mil, back to the Lakers the next year for just $2.6 mil, and then 2 yr $26 mil with the raptors (who traded him) for a total over the same 4 years of $34.5 mil, missing out on $49.5 mil.
His new Kings contract is for $44.4 mil, so he’s playing 3 more years and still will make less than he could have if he’d taken the Lakers offer.
Your math is accurate, and it shows that he is making plenty of money and having a solid career. Yes, he made a mistake not signing that contract but we domt know all the details. All we know is he’s had solid nba career since and outstanding one with Germany. These character building yrs will bode wel for his career after playing days are ovet.
He fired his agent after losing out on what turned out to be $49.5 mil – he’s making money, but obviously he would have made WAY more if he hadn’t ‘bet on himself”.
I hope Kuminga doesn’t make the same mistake.
If Kuminga is good with 3 years $65 million, the Warriors should go 3 years no option for either side for the third year.
That way if Kuminga turns out to be good, the Warriors get his services for the 3rd year or at least get to trade him with value. It gives up some of the control the Warriors want, but it also takes away Kuminga’s option to be an UFR in his third year.
But Kuminga wants to be a major piece on GSW. He wants 4 years and to be a starter or top 5 MPG guy on the team, which is perfectly fine, he has shown he has the ceiling to get there, Kerr just has to get out of the habit of benching him, and just letting him figure out the game when he is at full strength.
ALL of this drawn out Kuminga contract issues stems from Kerr being trash at developing draft picks. He played Anthony Lamb over Kuminga for no reason at all, they both play the same position and Kerr said “Lamb is better” because Kerr is a moron who has CTE from when MJ punched him for being an annoying loser.
Johnnybgood, I appreciate your comment, but I don’t think the Warriors should give 3 years and $65 million to a player and then wait to see if he
“turns out to be good.”
To me and it’s just me, that would be utterly 100% foolish. Really no other way to say it.
I write this because I’m one of the few here who doesn’t believe Jonathan Kuminga is good enough to receive a contract like that from the Warriors. If they cave and give him something like this, it would be to trade him away. Just my two cents.
They’re willing to give him $75 million for 3 years, with third year team option, So, the?Warriors are willing to commit $50 million to him anyway. The option is the only haggling point.
This is the kiddie compromise, with $10 million less money commitment from the Warriors.
@Johnnybgood
The reason why the option is the haggling point is because the Warriors know JK wants to leave (eminently reasonable, with Kerr limiting his minutes).
The player option makes the contract less tradable, so what’s the incentive for the Warriors to offer it?
Davey, it’s not up to Kerr to develop draft picks. It’s up to the 11 assistant coaches who are hired for that specific job. It’s not up to Stots either.
So your complaint is with the Golden State Warriors not with Steve Kerr.
His job is to beat the team they are playing that night. It’s not even his job to worry about the next game. That’s Terry Stotts also. Or maybe the other guy.
But your complaint can’t be with the Warriors because they’ve spent good money, very good money, hiring the best developmental guys around.
So in my opinion, this is on the player. And it’s common among players who are extremely well gifted to rely on these gifts and not work as hard as someone else might who has less physical gifts.
It’s just human nature and here we are.
I have confidence JK will work hard from this point forward because he’s awakened from the slumber he’s been in for four years. He will get better. I’d put money on it.
But right now? He’s not good enough.
@GaryRSW
Regardless, Kerr is the one that decides who plays and who sits. Kerr has made this situation much more difficult by the comments he made after Legler criticized him for limiting Kuminga’s minutes in the Wolves series after Steph went down.
He attacked Kuminga’s potential $ due to his huge ego, and that’s breaking the code.
At this point I just want them to get this over with, Kuminga is purposefully putting the team on lockdown so if he’s not interested do something to just get it done, but oh if only it were that simple
As one of our friends constantly reminds us, there’s just a few more days left before this is resolved.
I like what Simmons Russ has put out and that’s trading for a guy like DeMar DeRozan from the Kings.
Covers all the bases. The kings want him, it’s a short contract coming back, he’s a pretty good player for that matter coming back, they’ll get a first round pick included, and they won’t lose the guy for nothing. Works for me and it’s resolved.
I really don’t think the QO is an option. It’s lose lose for both parties.
Malcontent in the locker room (sorry guys, but you know it’s true) who is counting the days until a trade or UFA next summer, and very low salary for a guy who deserves 20+ million per year and he knows it.
True, Derozan’s on an expiring, and he’s always played big minutes. He doesn’t add spacing, but is a midrange phenomenon. It would probably work.
He’s the right age lol !!!
But seriously, he’s a bucket. He has a good game. Maybe his defense will pick up being on a team like this with major playoff hopes.
He has great size, he can play on the wing, I would do it.
It’s probably a wink wink ready to go “if we can’t find anything else” already.
The more I write this the more I like it. Can you imagine DeMar DeRozan 20 points a game guy on the Warriors? Lethal baby.., solid ready to go.
You plug him in with Jimmy and Steph and Al Horford. The starting lineup would be almost 200 years old, but I still think it sounds great. At least for this year.