The Warriors finished last season 23-8 after the Jimmy Butler trade, then opened the 2025/26 campaign with four wins in their first five games. However, they’ve since dropped five of seven, prompting forward Draymond Green to suggest after Tuesday’s blowout loss to Oklahoma City that Golden State isn’t taking the same team-first approach that was so successful down the stretch last season.
“I think everybody was committed to winning [back then] and doing that any way possible,” Green said, per Anthony Slater of ESPN. “Right now, it doesn’t feel that way.
“… I think everyone has a personal agenda in this league,” Green continued. “But you have to make those personal agendas work within the team confines. If it doesn’t work, you kind of got to get rid of your agenda or eventually the agenda is the cause of someone getting rid of you.”
Green didn’t single out any specific teammates who he believes are letting “personal agendas” get in the way of winning — when Slater approached him for follow-up questions after his general media session, the former Defensive Player of the Year simply said that “everyone” has to take some responsibility for the team’s recent slide.
However, as Slater points out, Brandin Podziemski spoke repeatedly before the season about his career ambitions, including his goal to be “better than” Stephen Curry, while a desire for a more significant role was a major factor in Jonathan Kuminga‘s restricted free agency standoff with the Warriors. So when a veteran gripes about “personal agendas,” those younger players tend to fall under the spotlight first, Slater notes.
After a strong start to the season, Kuminga has slowed down in the past couple weeks, shooting just 44.4% from the floor (25.0% on three-pointers) and committing more than three turnovers per game, including five in 24 minutes on Tuesday. Head coach Steve Kerr and Butler have both spoken about a need to take better care of the ball and not trying to do too much with it, as Slater relays.
“Myself, I can’t have turnovers,” Butler said. “JK can’t have turnovers. … We’re the ones that have to keep our turnovers down.”
While Green’s comments presumably weren’t aimed at his longtime teammate Curry, the star guard was willing to shoulder his share of the blame after struggling in his return to action on Tuesday after a three-game absence due to an illness. In 20 minutes, Curry scored just 11 points on 4-of-13 shooting and committed five fouls. He was a -23 in a game the team lost by 24 points.
“I kind of fell into [the agenda thing] a little bit myself,” Curry said. “Trying to get myself going. But the bigger issue when you lose is you start to look around and figure out what’s the issue. Commitment to winning is just running the floor, rebounding, taking care of the basketball. It’s not really about shots going in or not.”
All six of the Warriors’ losses so far this season have come on the road — they’re 5-0 at home. However, they’ll get no help from the schedule in the near future. They’ll play in San Antonio on Wednesday and Friday, New Orleans on Sunday, Orlando next Tuesday, and Miami next Wednesday before finally returning to the Bay Area for a five-game home stand.
Kuminga is showing he is not the future of the club. He has been given every oportunity to start the season and besides the first few games he has been nothing special. Not a guy you want to build you team around. With Curry sick and his offense is below what it once was the team has struggled. They also been hit with the toughest schedule full of back to backs to start the season on a old team.
Are you listening AKME? Arc says he is not the future of this club, so PLEASE do us Bulls fans all a favor and hang up if they place him on the block.
I wanted the warriors to trade Kuminga for Giddey but the Bulls were smart and not doing that. problem with warriors they have 2 announcers on their TV broadcast that never calls out players who are horrible. So some fans think hey that guy is good. When their defense is real bad. Curry goes down and the entire team looks like a last place team. OKC knew last night stop Curry and warriors lose. They double and triple teamed Curry and of course blew out the warriors.
Thank god we didn’t do that trade lol. Yeah, that’s our problem too, Stacey King acts like every guy on our team is an all star and kept doubling down on Chris Duarte signing last year. It was so obnoxious. There is zero depth and shot creator besides Curry on that team. I know you guys brought in Butler to do that, but he’s 36 and he’s running out of steam. I never understood the Butler trade, if you are trying to get younger as a team. Wiggins expiring deal would have been so much more beneficial to this team now instead of acquiring $30M+ more on the cap for a broken down Jimmy Butler.
Butler’s been the best player so far, and the 1 year younger Warriors went 26-8 with him after the trade and upset the 2 seed in the 1st rd.
GSW was trying to give Steph and Dray a last shot at a ‘chip by trading for him, it’s not Butler’s fault that it’s not going to happen.
I get the loyalty to Steph/Dray but this wasn’t it. Very few players have ever retired out on top. The post Curry years might rival the post Run TMC era. Awful and forgotten.
Butler is actually the only player on the warriors helping out Curry. They need to put Kuminga back on the bench not starting. they need to go with a starting lineup with Moody starting not Kuminga to bring in another 3 point threat.
I never understood the JK hype, even my Bulls friends wanted him but he simply isn’t a good fit for our team. Too many boneheaded plays on offense/defense, poor shot selection, not a good FT shooter, can’t make plays for himself or teammates, out of position on defense, not a good rebounder. I feel like he’s at his ceiling for his NBA career. He probably will get one big contract and be ring chasing later in his career. I can see a team like Wizards or Nets wanting him.
He’s shooting 77% from the ft line, leads the team at 6.8 rpg, and is 3rd in apg at 3.1/gm with his teammates shooting poorly.
Which means he’s not as bad as you seem to think, and it’s been only 12 games with Kerr doing his usual early season messing around with lineups and minutes.
Except they need to start JK to get his value up for a potential trade.
He plays better when Kerr gives him over 30 minutes, the last 2 games he’s played 20 and 24.
Kerr is also showing he’s not the future of GSW. He has one of the best rookies available but barely plays him, while trying to rely on Steph’s heroball even when it’s clear that Steph is off (I’m talking about the Pacers game where Will Richard got 0 playing time after shooting 100%/100%/100% in the previous loss to the Bucks – where he should have played more than 11:45).
Its time for Kerr to retire. He is coaching like its 2018. Teams has adjusted against the warriors. They are closer to a rebuild than to a top 4 team in the west. They need a PG to let Curry just be a shooter. Nobody is driving into the paint.
Nobody is driving into the paint except Steph, Jimmy and Kuminga, but you want Moody to start, who almost never drives and doesn’t pass (1.5 apg) or rebound (2.6 rpg).
Maybe Melton will play some PG if he ever gets on the court…
Aristotle….please. like we’ve all forgot you’ve been trolling under multiple different aliases. Please block yourself.
Draymond is talking to Podz in this case, not JK.
Exactly. He is talking about Kerr and Podz.
Kerr offense is not clicking cause doesn’t have enough play makers. And Podz is not playing right now. Warriors need two things. A play makers and a rim protector. Kuminga trade can get you both.
Stop the Kuminga Bandwagon Wagon. We got them jumping off now.
All you need is ten games to judge a player. How long I been telling you he is not a savior. Just a kid who needs to get better. Warriors don’t have an ast guy. The offense gets shut down they have no ball handlers. Podz was suppose to do that. In Kerrs offense you need play makers. Jimmy and Kuminga play same position.
Pods is eligible for extension this offseason so that’s the agenda. It’s the Warriors way… they did it with Moody, Kuminga so mind as well.
But Kerr buried Moody and gave him no chance to succeed, only playing in blowouts with no defense, 2way scrubs. Podz gets to play with the legends.
100% agree. Podz got spoiled last 2 yrs so he’s not happy because he also wants max extension this offseason. He now knows how both kuminga and Moody felt.
You dont win a title or postseason series in Nov. Look at last year’s start, something like 17 – 4, only to crumble until Butler trade. I rather struggle and finish strong. The young players will improve at season end. That being said, what cam we realistically out of these guys? We’re not Thunders. It is what it is.
I can’t believe how many people are crashing out in November. These are the most meaningless games of the season. They all matter in terms of being 1/82 but playing your best hoops in April onwards is 100000x more important. Aside from wanting Kerr fired (a stance I have had since the Draymond punch) but I am not a fan of adding Seth Curry to a roster that has Podz, Buddy, GP2 and Moody on it. I would add a big who can stretch the floor instead of Seth.
GP2 needs to go. He doesn’t have enough offense to his lost step on defense. Once again the warriors problem is no money to make a trade or pick up a player.
Davey, Give us an unprotected 2029 1st round pick for Vu and you got yourself a deal lol, sounds like that’s EXACTLY what you need.
Warriors get – Vucevic – $21,481,481M, Carter – $6,809,524M
Bulls get – Draymond Green – 25,892,857M, Melton – $3,080,921M, 2029 1st round unprotected pick.
Warriors get out of Draymond’s contract, and save them $27M for next year since both Vu/Carter have expiring deals. Carter is another ball handler off the bench who can play some defense and hit the 3 (spacing).
Bulls get Draymond’s toughness and defensive intelligence/awareness to provide as a mentor to Buzelis and Noa Essengue, and then he will decline his $27,678,571M player option for 26/27, giving us more cap flexbility and Melton would give another defensive minded guard that we lack since we traded Caruso.
Everyone wins short and long term. You just gotta swallow your pride and give up that 2029 1st round pick.
:-)
You aren’t getting a 1st for 35 year old Vuc, sorry lol
Also Draymond is only getting traded to be paired with Bron, is Chicago that team? Maybe? Or is it the Lakers? Would LAL trade Draymond for Reaves straight up? Is Lebron cooked forever, making this idea irrelevant? Possibly. I can see Draymond going home and playing for the Pistons too.
You never know. They are desperate for Steph to win a title before LeBron does in the Bay Area lol. :-)
I wouldn’t mind Draymond coming here (he’s from Detroit, so it’ll be closer to home for his mom and his daughter). I believe Reeves is untouchable for Draymond, mainly because Reeves and Luka work so well together and compliment each other nicely. I think he gets a max next year sadly lmao.
Pistons would be interesting trade partner with you guys.
Tobias Harris expiring deal, along with possibly Ron Holland for Draymond. I think that might get it done.
After tonight, Draymond had a 1-10 shooting with 10 fouls/TOs and a +15 and locked Wemby. Perfect Draymond game. Lol he is never getting traded.
@ Davey J
“Locked Wemby”? So you think 31 pts on 50%/42%/100% shooting with 15 reb 10 ast 1 blk was Wemby having been locked?
This was a classic ref help +20 fta win, can we ask the league to assign those same refs going forward?
@NBA is OK
Yes, Wemby is THAT good.
The veterans sonned the young guys into committing fouls. Did you watch the game? Was what Jimmy was doing bad calls? Nope. Stay wrong.
Even disregarding the 6 ftas on take fouls in the last 18 seconds at the end, we were +14 ftas in a 5 pt win. (How often does a team that shot 67% of their FGAs from three pt range (57-85) get +14 free throws over the team that shot 41% of their shots from three?
I’m not saying they were “bad calls”, I’m saying it was a HIGHLY unusual ref help game.
Not that it matters much – we will lose the next one and be back to .500 once again.
@ Davey…oh now you Warriors fans want Vuch….bahahahaha. I done told you this for 2 f-ing years that guy will unlock curtain players.
I never wanted Vuc for anything more than a 2RP, you are mistaken.
I agree with Davey, he never wanted Vu for more than 2nd round picks. Also, Wemby is amazing he burned our ass on monday, ironically against Vu LMAO and I saw it live as a slow and painful death….”oh there it is” was my initial reaction.
Apparently some people think Wemby can be locked to under 10 points or something….that’s literally never happening. “Locking Wemby” does not = locking a regular player. If you can get a 31 point -9 game in a W vs Wemby, that’s locking him.
It’s such a bummer certain posters on here can’t read what I’m saying, and they nitpick or whatabout or just plain lie about what I wrote in order to “win” the argument against me. But there is no argument being made. Dray held Wemby to 7-17 shooting when they faced each other. That’s a lockdown on a GOAT player. Either respect Wemby’s greatness or respect Draymond’s defense. Only an idiot would disrespect both.
Well, it’s early still. Go Warriors…
Literally November 12 and people are having a fit over this. All I gotta say is “lol”
It’s a 82 game season, granted they are in the West. Tough schedule to start the season, plus they are older and will show their age at times. It’s not a bad thing for Pods to say that he wants to be better than Steph, but he has to show the things that already have made Steph into an all time great. Consistency, practice, execution, etc all that plays into a huge part of becoming a full time NBA player. I believe this roster is flawed in some aspects. Getting a 40 year old Hortford who I really value and admire his entire career was their only big coup in free agency. JK contract talks really put a damper on the offseason. I don’t think they need to blow it up just yet, but if I’m MDJ, I get on the phones and see if I can work a deal for Kevin Huerter/Coby White or Jevon Carter (lmao). The only reason I say this is because Huerter gives them another shooter and he has been active on both sides of the ball, he’s a better rebounder than most people give him for, and he also has been shooting lights out. Coby, because he can play along side Steph and Butler, and Carter because they need another ball handler and facilitator in the 2nd unit. It’s a long season but it’s not end of the world for GSW and their fans. We already knew coming into the season that OKC/DEN/MIN would be the top 3 teams in the West. Houston still has to prove it, Spurs are upcoming but need more experience and the rest are just ‘meh’ or god awful. They can easily get a 4/5 seed this year, depending on if they are active and aggressive prior to February’s trade deadline.
4 or 5 seed is a pipe dream in the west for this old of a roster. Guys are going to continue to miss games and play light minutes because that’s what guys in their late 30s and 40s do in the NBA. If Podz and Kuminga are your options to pick up the slack when your old guys inevitably miss time….
Well, you see the early returns.
There is 0 reason for the Bulls to do anything right now because they are gelling right now to start the season. OKC reminds me of the warriors from the chamionship run where your only chance at beating them is when they have a off shooting night. Now the test of playing the spurs which the only good news is the starters was able to rest in the 4th quarter.
The schedule is a big deal, imo.
Chicago and San Antonio have had good starts, but they’ve had a very favourable mostly home schedule.
And it’s the opposite for GS.
OKC for me are even further ahead of the field than they were last year. I don’t think that Denver getting a real bench center changes things all that much.
The Nuggets’ bench lost leads frequently last season, which is why Jokic’s on/off numbers were so ridiculous.
This season, the bench is outscoring their opponents so far, allowing Jokic to play the least min/gm since the championship season.
The 5 bench players that have played in at least 6 games are +191 combined. Hardaway has an avg of +6.2/gm and he’s put up 10.9 ppg on 46%/45%/89% splits – that’s a huge improvement over Westbrook in efficiency.
Same with Valanciunas compared to Deandre Jordan, he’s at 9 ppg 5 rpg in only 12.8 min/gm, compared to DJ’s 3.7 and 5.1 last season in 12.3 min/gm.
That is true. Denver has a better bench now. But is that really going to help them compete?
OKC starters are better than Denver starters. OKC’s squad is better than Denver’s squad. As a team, OKC play way better than Denver. OKC outplayed Denver in the playoffs, and it went to 7 games only because of OKC’s horrible shooting and Denver’s incredible shot-making.
OKC had more field goal attempts than Denver in all 3 of their losses. Including 19 more FGAs in the Game 3 loss.
You know what that tells me? That OKC were the dominant team. And I watched the games. I watched OKC take wide-open 3s and layups and miss them, while Jamal Murray was barely able to dribble the ball out of his half in 8 seconds, was completely out of ideas on most possessions, made difficult drives at the brink of exhaustion, attempted off-balance jumpers and made them.
That’s how Denver won those games. Not by dominating or even staying more or less equal. Denver’s shot quality was way worse.
OKC were way better than Denver, just like they were way better than Memphis and Minnesota, and against GS last night. But this is basketball, stuff happens, the best team doesn’t win every game, and many things happened that favoured Denver in that series.
My feeling after that series was that OKC would win 4-0 or 4-1 in a replay.
Almost every time I watch OKC play, their bench players make legit NBA starters who make 30$m+ look like they should retire.
SGA+Chet+Williams trio are the best price/performance star group in the NBA by such a wide margin that it’s not even close.
SGA will still be making only 24% of the cap in 26-27. By the time his extension kicks in, they might be 3-time champions.
I’m sorry, but the home team getting pushed to 7 games vs a team with multiple injured players can’t reasonably be termed “dominant”, never mind “way better”.
Having a more rested Jokic, a playable backup center, and the Nuggets’ young players with more experience (just like OKC’s) to me means a better chance to beat them in a rematch, not worse.
We will see when the Thunder’s super easy schedule so far gets harder if they’re really a potential dynasty team.
“Getting a 40 year old Horford who I really value and admire his entire career was their only big coup in free agency.”
It’s too bad that Horford has been literally their least productive player so far. He’s the only player on the team with a negative WS/48 number.
Funny how this article mentions Kuminga’s turnovers, but ignores the fact that Draymond is avging more TO pg so far.
Its the bad passes for no reason is their problem. Kerr stubborness of thinking Green can be used like a PG.
Kuminga also had 0 fouls that game.
Old team, nothing more. Their younger guys aren’t that good. .500 seems right.
You forgot too short as well. The only 7 footer on the team is in his 2nd year but Kerr only plays him an avg of 16 min/gm.
So his development will suffer, like all the young players on the team.
Maybe they should trade away the current warriors and acquire a real winner like Anthony Davis.
Things a Mavs fan will say for $800 Alex. How about Zion Williams too.
Solution: Zion for Kuminga and a first.
Get another PG to allow some (some) Curry SG minutes.
Who is that ????
Draymond’s game is starting to slip. He can’t rebound against all the tall guys who are in the league these days, gets fouled less, can’t defend as effectively, can’t make up for his team’s defensive shortcomings, doesn’t move that much in possession, and GS attacks lack in dynamism as a result, he tries to make for it with even more adventurous passes = more turnovers than usual.
His 3-pt shots have masked his rather weak play, and show that too often he finds himself standing on the perimeter away from the action.
I always thought that Draymond will start to slow down before Curry. I think we’re seeing it now. His form will likely improve later in the season, but we’re not far away from the point where an average mid-level exception guy is better than Draymond.
green is already slowing down. He needs a lot more rest this year. Green hates playing center but kerr’s bad lineups forces him to play center.
I mean he is 37, not sure what you expect
The league has gone too big, Dray can cook guys under 6’7″ but not Joker or Wemby. GSW needs size, and yet they have 9 undersized SGs on the roster. Ben Simmons is more useful than Podz at this point off his height alone.
He can’t cook anyone anymore.
Dray cooked Wemby last night, actually. I wish you would know ball.
Yes. That 6 points on 1-10 shooting was elite.
Obviously I meant defensively elite. You knew this and wrote that anyway.
+15 and holding the GOAT Wemby to 7-17 shooting is elite performance whether you like it or not.
lol. Wemby went for 31-15-10. On the negative side, he had 8 turnovers, some of which may have been caused by Green.
Draymond had one steal, fouled out, had 4 turnovers…that’s “cooking?”
Myopic much?
Wemby went 7-17 on Draymond.
Do you not understand defense is important? Do you not understand Draymonds game?
+15 in a W = cooking.
Stop arguing with me, its annoying. You never make a good point.
His has been slipping for years. Thats what happens when you get beat up by real bigs all your career. Warriors fans don’t understand what a true big does for careers of others lol. Especially Kerr. And he played with Duncan and Robinson. Even his Bulls teams had three centers to deal with Ewing every yr.
Bogut was superb on the Warriors…Kerr seems to have forgotten that entire era…because he is throwing these games and is owned by the mob…
That Curry quote is so bad.
The bigger issue is you start finding the issues? And commitment to winning isn’t about shots going in? What?!?
Correct. Its about playing the right way. Sometimes the shots go in, sometimes they don’t. You can’t control that variance, but you can control everything else.
Shots not going in because of the opposing team’s defense. OKC was very good defensively. I wonder if the Lakers getting blown out too (the same way as the warriors).
Maybe I just don’t know basketball like Draymond, but is punching teammates or getting ejected from games for technical fouls part of a commitment to winning?
Yes.., they are.
You ever seen coaches get kicked out on purpose to ignite a teen. You kind of hope Greymond doesn’t do that often, but I understand it because coaches do it.
I played college basketball and our “not as talented” freshman point guard got into a fight, a literal fight, with practically every guy on the team and by midseason he was the starting point guard.
So yes, on the surface your comment is correct and makes sense 100%.
But Greymond’s thought process is something I do understand but don’t always agree with.
In Fact I want to ship his butt out of town lol he goes overboard with the hysterical actions in my opinion.
In the regular season, yes. In the playoffs, no. We lost a title due to this exact thing.
They really had a brutal schedule to start. A few back to backs early. I think they will get going soon and be in decent shape. A few teams in the west are worse than anticipated so getting a playoff spot should be attainable. Podz and kuminga are solid players. Horford can’t play very many minutes and sits on back to backs. Probably need another front court guy to help with that.
No question they need a center that isn’t a 3 pt specialist (Post) or a gut that can’t shoot outside 5 ft (Jackson-Davis).
They really could have used Achiuwa who is playing decently for the Kings so far, but signing Horford put them at the cap max.
One would hope that finding a defensive big that can protect the rim is their highest priority before the deadline.
Precious is just another TJD. None of these guys can play next to Draymond. They need floor-spacing at the 5 because they can’t get it from other positions.
Considering that, it’s too bad Kerr refuses to play Post consistent minutes, eh?
Post? Really.
He’s a 7 foot 5 that can space the floor.
Last night, Kerr played him 4:36
Horford: 23
Post: 4
TJD: 0
Curry: 34
Podziemski (tried to lose the game all by himself in 4Q): 29
Moody: 26
Richard: 22
Buddy: 16
Payton II: 15
Game would have been closer if Post and TJD got all of GP2s and Buddy’s playing time. Post is a better shooter than Buddy at this point.
What happened to the Two-Timelines strategy that was to mitigate exactly what is happening?
been gone for a couple years.
Bob Myers didn’t know what he was doing when he drafted players.
So many wasted pics. Jacob Evans? All those second rounders Smilagic, Jordan Bell, etc. Plus the high draft picks Moody and Kuminga have disappointed.
Then Wiseman was hurt most of the time so he couldn’t get off the trainers table.
Then you look at OKC and all those bench guys that are real and NBA players. I’d take anyone off their bench and stick them in our starting lineup today. Right down to the 15th guy.
Dunleavy has done a little better drafting. At least Davis knows what he’s doing out there though he’s limited skill wise. Podski has a place in the NBA, and so does Will Richard.
So there you go. The Warriors two tiered transition has hit a speed bump so to speak. Let’s see what happens at the trading deadline this year.
The other problem is being a championship team with high paid players doesn’t allow you to get low draft picks during the draft. Look at the guys scouted at the #7 pick that lacob insisted on Kuminga that are much better players and would make warriors better like Frank Wagner who the scouts wanted to pick instead of Kuminga.
Yes, that’s true and remember the Warriors Bob Myers desperately wanted Chris Duarte at 13 or 14 whatever. But Indiana took him so we wound up with Moses Moody.
Chris Duarte was considered a player who’s ready now and I guess he had a good rookie year but he’s out of the league lol.
Moses Moody has been improving every year and he’s only 22 years old with a brighter future than Duarte. So even a blind squirrel Finds an acorn once in a while lol
Warriors do have a good young prospect in the G league. LJ Cryer first 3 games shows he can put up stats and consistent so far. He could be the PG that the warriors need. I just don’t have a lot of faith in Podz because he is so up and down in games.
I’m glad they’re playing him at PG in the G league, because he was a SG in college. So far, his 4.7 apg to 3.3 TO pg shows he’s a work in progress as a PG, but he’s at 24 ppg on 46%/39%/86% in 3 games.
I see Podz as a SG not PG because he is not quick enough to draw the defense inside. He is more of a swiss army knife player. 6th man off the bench type. Until Melton recovers they lack a true PG to back up Curry.
Podz is literally modelling his game after Russell Westbrook, its obvious that’s who he wants to be. Russ would NEVER work in GSW/Kerr/Curry.
The problem is, Podz has worse tools and a lower IQ than Russ, compounded by how Kerr is obsessed with him and acts like he is Lebron James and plays him top 4 MPG almost every game, starting or not. Why does Kerr love Podz, when Podz shows us nothing? Corruption. Kerr wants to lose, or make games he could blowout, much closer. Gambling must be banned in USA pro sports, period.
The winning streak after the Butler trade has been blown way out. The shedule was soft as butter in the sun after said trade. Best players are pushing forty. Only a few warriors fans thought this season was going to be different. It’s also a small sample size and a long way to go. Warriors are veterans, I’m sure they’ll get on a streak and playing better ball when it counts.
The schedule wasn’t soft, that’s BS.
In the 30 reg season games Butler played in after the trade, 15 were vs teams that were .500 or better on the day they played, and over half the teams in the league were below .500 (16).
You nailed it Nrg82. And I appreciate the encouragement for the rest of the way. We’re down in the dumps now so any positive words help.
Yes, they’re veterans so there’s that. What else they have? I’m not sure but looking forward to the trade deadline to either be better by then.., or fix this mess.
@ Gary…so polite you are. Warriors are a worry regardless of seeding. Just have to be 5th or 6th in West. OKC, Denver are for real. Nobody wants to play Steph. Just get playoff bound healthy and the Warriors aren’t beating themselves.
@Nrg82
They look like a .500 team, and unless Melton can return, stay healthy and play well it’s hard to see that changing.
After OKC and Denver come the Rockets, Spurs, Twolves and Lakers, so how are the Warriors going to finish 5th or 6th? With the improvement of the Blazers and Suns, they ould lose in the play-in.
Nrg82, i’m not that polite, I just recognize good comments and I often like yours because you tell the truth #1, and #2 you don’t let the BS slide. You call it out.
That’s the kind of person I love having a conversation with.
The clear best teams are OKC and Denver. I said this pre-season and it’s still true. You are correct, GSW just has to finish top 6, which they can easily do. If Kerr is gone and so is small ball, sky is the limit, although a trade for a big (Sabonis) would be necessary. A high paid guy would mean Jimmy or Dray+Kuminga are gone, due to being capped. GSW lacks money flexibility but it can be done. The biggest big who looms large is of course…
Once again, all roads lead to “blowing up the roster to put Steph and Giannis together, as Steph hands the torch to Giannis as the team leader over the next 5 years”. Steph+Giannis+whoever else = the dynasty continues.
Nope….disagree. played a lot of scrubs, non play off teams while better rested than said scrubs. I’m sure there’s better data to counter but I don’t want to be that guy. Warriors are a play in team at best with extremely tough times ahead.
The warriors age is showing they are playing the toughest schedul in the NBA and it wore them out. The real test comes in jan when the schedule get easy for them If they can’t win in Jan its time to start the rebuild.
Steve Kerr: “15-50 was my all-time favorite season to coach, because it was no pressure.” Winning means pressure. The HC at the top eschews that. Kerr has been utterly useless and openly bad for the Warriors for 3 years now. Small ball is dead, yet who did he play last night? Moody, Buddy and Podz together. That’s too small. He keeps playing undersized guys at the 3 and 4 and it only results in destruction.
Steve Kerr HAS to be fired. Doug Christie has his number and Christie stinks. Every single NBA HC owns Kerr. Curry bails Kerr’s idiotic rotation use every time they win.
Podz HAS to be sent to the G League. He is utterly clueless out there. Cant score. Cant play NBA defense. What’s the point?
@ Davey stop the Steve Kerr vendetta. It’s just an excuse for failure at this point. Dudes won some titles.
This isnt the reply you think it is. “Dudes won some titles” so have plenty of guys. Kerr rode Curry greatness to titles, he was a negative in almost all of them. Kerr is alergic to playing his best 5 players together, he has to throw undersized scrubs in the mix for no reason. He is likely doing this on purpose to lose games or make them close, due to mob/gambling/corruption. Plain as day to me.
No one can both “win some titles” and be this stupid and bad at making in-game choices as Kerr does without something sinister going on.
Sign Wiseman
For all the nonsense Warriors fans talk all the time. Like how weak the East is. Yet the only two gms you had against the East YoU LoSt ……. 😱
Dray has a right to talk. He is one of leaders. Warriors are not a top team. So enjoy reality lols. Everyone needs to blame someone, always the blame. Warriors got spanked by Nuggets and OKC. Probably two best teams in West. You learn from that. Both are deeper than Warriors.
Warriors need everyone and to shoot well. For them to be effective. You can’t expect Jimmy to save you now. As a team right now. They need a play making guard. Podz is not doing it. They actually need depth there. Kerrs offense needs playmakers. Not only scorers. Scorers will have their off nights. Playmaking never has an off night. Like I said long ago. Kuminga starts playing well. You can move him for another playmaker and a rim protector. Or just get good value for him and sign a rim protector. 70 gms still left. Nothing gets settled in November.
It’s November. Saying all this in November is something a person who knows ball would NOT do. Something to think about. The East is super weak with tons of bad teams. Any team can beat any team on any given night. It’s November.
Also the Warriors beat the Nuggets in game 2.
GSW playmakers: Dray, Jimmy, Melton. They do need another classic PG who is better than Spencer, you are not wrong there. That will be Melton. Steph also playmakes (for himself mostly). Podz is horrid and needs to go to the G league. GSW would have won more games by now if Podz and GP2 played 5-10 MPG, not 15-35. The REAL problem is a lack of non-Steph offensive identity, which should be built around a bigger lineup with Post and TJD along with Jimmy and Dray and Melton.
Warriors will be a top 4 team in the west in April, when it matters. They are way better than the Lakers, Suns and Blazers. Houston will fall down the ladder when KD gets hurt.
It’s hard to see Melton being a genuinely productive player this season considering his injury prone history, but it would be great to have that actually happen.
I hope you’re right about where the team stands at the end of the reg season, but my guess is that we won’t be top 6 unless there’s a lot of things that go our way perfectly.
DeAnthony Melton is NOT a point guard. I don’t know where all this talk is coming from. He’s more like Podski than anyone.., but better.
Melton is one of those guys who is a combo guard.. he can run the point but he’s not a true point guard.
He can play shooting guard because he can shoot it and he’s big enough to guard off guards.
But the man is not a point guard.., I don’t know where it came from how it started and why everyone is jumping in on it who claim they know basketball.
He’s not fast, he’s not blowing by anybody, he’s a combo guard.
He can do it as a back up, but you’re never going to start Melton as your one even if you was healthy all these years. He’s your two or your sixth man.
When he was healthy the first few games last year I think he started at the two because of his defense, his ability to help Steph with the ball handling, and he really shot the ball well which I think caused everyone to think that he’s such an amazing player.
Well, yes, he’s pretty good, but he is really the first guard off the bench and can play the one or two.
“DeAnthony Melton is NOT a point guard.”
“Melton can run the point but he’s not a true point guard”
Splitting hairs. Means nothing. GSW were 12-3 with Melton active last year in the “backup to Curry at PG” role. Melton will be back in that role when he returns. Podz is currently in that role.
There aren’t many “true PGs” in the league anymore, everyone is a combo guard now. Wemby runs point sometimes. Jimmy can run point. Dray long been a point. Pat Spencer no-D types are useless in this league. Rockets lost FVV and didn’t skip a beat. The “strict PG role played by a short guy” is the one most likely to totally disappear in our lifetimes.