If Milwaukee had been willing to make a deal at last month’s trade deadline, the Warriors likely would’ve given up several of their future first-round picks – and swaps – to acquire star forward Giannis Antetokounmpo. However, speaking to Tim Kawakami on his TK Show podcast (Spotify link) on Tuesday, general manager Mike Dunleavy Jr. pointed to the health issues currently afflicting his top players as an example of why surrendering significant future draft capital carries significant risk.
“I think going back to the Jimmy (Butler) trade last year, that’s why we loved the trade so much, because we’re getting a great player and we’re only giving up that year’s pick. There’s nothing out in the future,” Dunleavy said, according to Kawakami. “…I think we’re always being disciplined about using those picks, considering them in trades, things like that. But when you’re put in a situation like this, where your best players are out and you’re struggling to win games, I think you appreciate having that draft capital moving forward.”
In addition to missing Butler (torn ACL) and Kristaps Porzingis (illness), the Warriors are currently playing without their top scorer, Stephen Curry, who has been out since January 30 due to a knee issue. Asked by Kawakami if there’s any possibility that Curry gets shut down for the rest of the season, Dunleavy didn’t rule it out, but said it would be “very surprising” if that happens.
“I’m not a doctor and things can go a certain way,” he said. “I don’t want the headline to be, ‘Steph may be done for the year’ because I’m not ruling it out. But just because he’s not playing right now, I just have to acknowledge that, ‘Yeah, sure, there’s a chance.’ But we don’t expect that.”
Here are a few more of Dunleavy’s most notable quotes from his appearance on The TK Show:
On whether he expects Steve Kerr to be the Warriors’ head coach in 2026/27:
“I don’t see why not. I think Steve’s mentioned wanting to get to the end of the season and figure it out. I think things, for him, are going well. We’ll figure all that out when it comes. I think it’s been interesting, like the focus for us internally between myself, (team owner) Joe (Lacob), the players, Steve, has really been on like getting this thing right the rest of the season. So we haven’t put a whole bunch of thought into it.
“But you know, obviously, on a personal level, (I) love having Steve here. Yeah, I would project that he’s our coach next year. But again, we’re going down to absolute certainties, and a lot of it’s in his court, so we’ll have to see.”
On whether the Warriors seriously considered hanging onto Jonathan Kuminga through last month’s trade deadline:
“I think you guys know, it’s been put out there about (Kuminga’s) trade demand, and I think any time a player wants that, I want to try to accommodate. You want people who want to be here. And for that reason, we felt it was the right time to move on. I think JK’s happy about it, I think we’re in the right spot for it, it was just kind of the right thing to do at the time.”
On whether he’s satisfied with the information-gathering process that led to the Warriors acquiring Porzingis (who has been limited to a single outing since the trade due to health issues):
“That’s a great question, it’s a fair question. I think it’s really, really complicated. This is a unique situation. I’d say from our end, I feel good about, from the information we had, I feel good about our evaluation of what that was on the medical side. And for that reason, that’s why we made the trade.”
Lol you crapped the bed, don’t blame Kuminga now like he just didn’t want to be a warrior all along. Got zero value from that asset and that’s on your organization. You were not backed into a corner, you painted yourself into that scenario
What gives you the inclination that JK wanted to be on the Warriors? He gave no effort when he returned from his first injury this season. The writing was on the wall. He’s not getting any more or less time or usage in his 3 games with Atlanta than he did with his entire career with the Warriors. Stop with this nonsense, clearly you don’t watch the games
Think the point that was being made here is that the Warriors spent 4 years showing that they didn’t want JK to be a Warrior. At least not the version of JK that he thought himself to be.
Looks pretty good so far in Atlanta. Not sure what you’re referring to there.
They absolutely did not do that. JK had a role to fill that he struggled in. Particularly in the half court and particularly if the offense didn’t revolve around him. He struggled to keep in front of his man on defense and would hold the ball in a motion offense. Kerr did what he could when Steph and Jimmy weren’t on the court to adapt the offense to JK’s game and he’d score some. Most of his points in Atlanta are in transition. 3 games! Two against a gleague wizards team and 1 against a sinking Portland team. Please. I watched this kid play for 4 and half season every game. He struggled in his role. He had hall of famers to learn from. He improved so little in that span and it had nothing to do with playing time.
What world are you living in? Steve Kerr treated Kuminga like crap. He pulled him out of the rotation multiple times to play a bunch of undrafted and late second round picks that aren’t even playing in the league anymore.
They screwed up the pick, then refused to trade him when it became obvious Kerr wasn’t going to play him. They absolutely screwed up the whole situation. Just because JK isn’t a great player doesn’t mean they didn’t mess up his value and trade timeline.
When Golden State can’t outspend everyone by 200M, it’s amazing how bad they look with their moves.
Teams have scouts. They can see what a player’s value is. What was his trade timeline?
He was mentioned in basically every major star rumor from the time he was drafted, with reports always saying that he wasn’t available.
Are you seriously arguing that he had the same trade value at this deadline that he would’ve two seasons ago? Because that’s insane. They traded him after destroying all of his value, and paying him more than they wanted.
I guess you don’t understand have trades work in the NBA. There is no way they could matched salaries. There were no rumors of him being traded for anyone before he hit RFA. I live in SF.
You need to get your brain checked my friend. If you live in SF and follow the Warriors and don’t remember all the times JK was mentioned in trade rumors (usually for the reporters to say he was untouchable) I don’t know what else to tell you.
A five minute google search found tons of reports. First, they could have included him in a package to Toronto get OG Anunoby, but they refused:
link to bleacherreport.com
Here’s Ramona on a radio clip saying he was untouchable two years ago:
link to reddit.com
Here’s another saying they’d only trade him for an ALL NBA PLAYER (LOLOL):
link to bleacherreport.com
We know the Kings offered at least one first round pick in the off-season in a sign and trade. Golden State didn’t want to take back any of the contracts to match Kuminga, which is fine, but then they traded him for basically nothing.
That was five minutes of google from a non Warriors fan. The fact that you live in SF and can’t remember any of this is worrying.
Hum…You are telling me about one trade rumor. Not the dozens you claimed.
The Kings offered a conditional 1st, but withdrew it.
Giants74 is a ten yr old. He doesn’t care about facts or the truth. Warriors can do no wrong. Davey is not the #1 FankeStein this guy is. BlindHomer lols.
Warriors could gave made moves on draft night. They didn’t care about developing players or waiting on them. They were just gun-shy and prolonged the inevitable. Had no time to wait on players. They are still waiting on Moody. Have given up on wiseman n Kuminga. All this could have been fixed DAY ONE .
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Here are the key details regarding the Warriors’ interest in trading picks for vets in 2021:
“Plan A” Approach: Packaging the 7th and 14th picks together for a “starting-caliber player in his prime” was considered the team’s “Plan A” during the 2021 offseason.
Targeted Players: Reports suggested the Warriors were exploring trades for established talent, with Toronto Raptors forward Pascal Siakam mentioned as a potential target on their radar. There was also, at one point, interest in acquiring Bradley Beal, though that did not materialize before the draft.
Motivation: The team faced severe luxury-tax implications and had a desire to move away from developing young lottery picks (like James Wiseman) in favor of players who could contribute to an immediate title run.
The Outcome: Despite exploring these options, the Warriors were unable to find a suitable trade and ultimately kept their picks, selecting Jonathan Kuminga at No. 7 and Moses Moody at No. 14.
Failed Pursuit: Even on draft night, general manager Bob Myers was trying to make moves, including attempting to acquire an additional second-round pick.
link to bleacherreport.com
link to sfgate.com
link to nbcsportsbayarea.com
The Wagoneers here don’t follow or care about facts. Only to cry and complain. And they think, protect their team ??????? WAGONEERS
2021 is not 2025.
🫣🤮🤮😵💫 . there have been takers for Kuminga since the 2021 draft. Go count the ping pong balls …. WAGONEERS are so clueless.
Raynaud says “vous sucez” .
But, you keep telling me that every team in the NBA wanted Kuminga. Now, you are telling me he has no takers.
Raynaud says “thank goodness GSW didn’t draft me – I get lots of minutes on the bottom feeder Kings”!
Raynaud was rated as a late 1st rd pick. He was a good pick for anyone in 2nd rd. Especially for a team in need of a center. A great pick then in 2nd rd for them. Warriors passed and Kings had their guy. Imo this was all Kerr. Big mistake.
I don’t care how he has improved by getting starter minutes for a 14 win team. My point was that he was lucky that GSW didn’t draft him, because he wouldn’t have gotten minutes under Kerr.
That doesn’t matter. Cause they are still looking for a center. KP is a waste. Shows how lost they are. Raynaud is an asset. Its not about getting mins. He has proven he is ready for NBA now. He will only get better. It’s a failed pick in every way by Warriors. F Kerr he ruined Wiseman and Kuminga. Then passed on Raynaud. Raynaud and Kuminga could of brought in a young vet. Kerr isn’t lasting past this year.
Just another of your what – at least 100 posts stanning Raynaud.
1. How did Raynaud prove he’s ready for NBA now? By getting minutes when Sabonis couldn’t play on a bad team. Since GSW already had Post, Raynaud wouldn’t have gotten many minutes with the Warriors, just like Renaud didn’t until Sabonis got hurt.
2. Kerr isn’t the GM, so he didn’t pass on Raynaud.
3. The Warriors’ GM has said that Kerr coming back or not is 100% up to him.
“Yeah, I don’t see why not,” Dunleavy told Tim Kawakami on “The TK Show” when asked if he expects Kerr to return next season. “I mean, I think Steve has mentioned wanting to get to the end of the season and figure it out. I think things are, for him, going well.
“Obviously, on a personal level, I love having Steve here,” Dunleavy added. “Yeah, I would project that he’s our coach next year. But again, we’re going into absolute certainties, and a lot of it is in his court, so we’ve got to see.”
I don’t post about Raynaud. I Just post his stats. To show his progress. It’s a reminder of the FOOLS. who run the Warriors. And for Wagoneers to never gorget their miss. That’s all ot is. A swing n a miss.
Imo Kerr doesn’t want him. Cause he is not interested in a true center.
Lol, that’s ridiculous. You have posted about him daily for weeks now
Yeah his stats for the game. And a reminder of swing and miss. Thats not posting about HIM. My ten yr old can tell you that. And I will keep reminding the WAGONEERS till they tell me it was a mistake.
You get it now 😳😳
Or you want me to do it in french.
— 1. How did Raynaud prove he’s ready for NBA now? By getting minutes when Sabonis couldn’t play on a bad team. Since GSW already had Post, Raynaud wouldn’t have gotten many minutes with the Warriors, just like Renaud didn’t until Sabonis got hurt. —
This is a WAGONEER right here a true genius. Who doesn’t know the first thing about me or tge posters I am posting for. Yet got answers.
So lets talk about it. You ineptitude.
Prove ???? How does any player prove he belongs. You need a F n class ……. He is playing 26 mibs. A d as of 2wks ago is in running for ROY ..
Comparing Pist to him. Like the itger Wagoneers do. Is just telling us all how ignorant you and share the hateraid. Post has played twice as many games. And still can’t get mins. Raynaud has put up 16 n 10 on two different streaks. If you can’t see tge difference in talent. Tgen you are a Blind Homer or just don’t know ball.
— Kerr isn’t the GM, so he didn’t pass on Raynaud.
For any knowledgeable basketball person. To say this about a head coach. Is just incomprehensible ignorance. A coach always has a hand on who is coming to his team. Especially one making a playoff run. Most have the last word. Its always a collective of coach, scouts and GM. And a REAL or GOOD organization is always on the same page.
Go get knowledge WAGONEER. Read a F n book
@WolvesSuffer man.. I don’t know what to tell you. So you don’t do your job and get pulled out of the rotation and it’s on the coach? A team that has a once in a lifetime talent, that’s provided 4 rings for your franchise, shouldn’t try to continue to win? Especially when said players are fulfilling their role and JK isn’t? Prioritize development over winning, for a franchise trying to contend? What are you even saying, you sound so silly. Screwed up the pick, sure.. refused to trade him? Differences between coaches, execs and owners, how much does that happen around the league? When did you start watching NBA basketball, 2016? I mean goodness bro, they were the blueprint to today’s NBA you child. All home grown talent and development and one season the CBA allows them to sign KD. What team wouldn’t do that. How foolish do you sound child. Keep hating to hate
Are you seriously arguing that playing the guys he did over JK helped the Warriors in any way?
I personally don’t think Kuminga is good. He’s an inconsistent player that fits better on a bad team. But the Warriors didn’t have a ton of talent the years he was there, and Kerr was playing guys that were even worse than Kuminga. They weren’t winning a ton of games because they benched Kuminga, they were still mostly .500.
Kerr wanted Franz Wagner and gave Kuminga a short leash because of it. The owner loved JK and refused to trade him, fine. But that means the organization completely screwed up the situation.
If you aren’t going to play Kuminga over G League guys and undrafted rookies, which Kerr started doing basically Kuminga’s rookie year, then they should have used his value to get a real player. JK could’ve been included in a deal for OG Anunoby, and the Warriors refused. If the coach isn’t going to play him, the organization should’ve used him as an asset to improve. Instead they basically screwed up every decision along the way and then dumped him for basically nothing.
Yes, I am arguing that because I WATCHED the games. You did not. So when I see Kuminga as second year player miss reads or not hustle for boards, or have trouble staying in front his man, or continually miss open corner threes on a team that has championship aspirations, and I see Anthony Lamb, who I despise btw for non-basketball reasons, hustle on the boards, hit the open three, find the open man, have the defensive and offensive prowess to rotate at the right time or make the extra pass, then yes, yes, I do think he helped the Warriors at the time. Your lack of knowledge is showing. JK’s rookie year the Warriors won the championship. So Kerr playing undrafted rookies and gleague guys to lead them a ring right? Warriors refused the Anunoby deal, do you work for the front office? you sound so ridiculous, I’m saying I’m not gonna engage with you anymore, but I know I’ll read another one of your silly replies and have to respond.
So why did they not trade him??? You keep ignoring the points. People are criticizing the front office, and/or Kerr, not suggesting JK is a superstar.
If you, as a die hard fan watching games from your TV could tell that JK shouldn’t be playing, why are you arguing that they didn’t screw up by not trading him?
I’m using real reports from real sources with actual links. You are consistently saying “I watch the games” like that’s some big point to make. You have argued now that they didn’t screw up by holding onto him, but Kerr also didn’t screw up because he didn’t deserve to play. Just a contradiction every time you write something.
What are you even arguing? They didn’t trade him because they wanted to develop him? They told media and casuals to stop placing extreme expectations on a 20yr old that just started playing organized basketball in high school? As a Warriors fan, in 2023 I for sure was ok with them trading JK for a player like OG. I’d do it in a heartbeat. I don’t think that was a real rumor. There’s so much that goes into these trades, these rumors are JUST rumors. Stop reading into it like it was a set thing.
From my perspective in 2023, I was ok with trading JK because I saw my team in an extremely competitive position to be in to win another championship, coming off a ring. I didn’t see JK as a contributing winning player and thought his development would come at the cost of winning. I also wasn’t sure if I saw him being as good as everyone painted him out to be even down the line. I never argued they did or didn’t screw up by not trading him. I don’t know how those talks go and I don’t know who, if any real suitors were out there, not to mention players. What “real sources” bro, you’re literally pulling espn articles out of your ahh like a drama queen. Watching the games is huge in understanding a players’ tendencies and how a team plays schematically. Do you watch NBA basketball or do you read articles with clickbait headlines and go on twitter and make your analysis then?
You’re last sentences don’t make sense. They screwed up by drafting him. it was hubris in the organization. You don’t know what trades they had or didn’t have out there in 2022-23, 23-24 or last year. What are you even saying, go watch the wolves and be happy that Minny has a winning team, or go bandwagon the next team whenever Ant leaves.
This is exactly correct – Light Years was based on literally lapping the league in paid roster salary. Prime Steph/Klay/Dray and added Durant which put them more than double salary over the entire league. It took time but the NBA stepped in and stopped the wild spending, despite Lacob’s vehement protests.
Store-Bought titles, a laughable proclamation of two-timelines and now this series of transactions.
@tony we got a pure hater here. How many other teams in the luxury tax penalty? C’mon man, don’t be mad that a team drafted and developed players and dominated for a decade instead of creating some frankenstein Lebron led team. I get it, they probably messed up your fav franchise, but you just sound bitter!
The Warriors doubled the payroll of the rest of the league – and the league put a stop to it, and here now is the reality of the team. Enjoy the Pat show 😂
Take the money away from the dubs and you have a Sacramento level Front Office.
Seriously? The whole reason Draymond was playing the 5 was to accommodate Kuminga. They kept changing the lineups with not a whole lot to show for it.
That’s hilarious…. do you even know what you are saying
It is a fact.
And gave him up for this ——-
“That’s a great question, it’s a fair question. I think it’s really, really complicated. This is a unique situation. I’d say from our end, I feel good about, from the information we had, I feel good about our evaluation of what that was on the medical side. And for that reason, that’s why we made the trade.”
How complicated is it lol ?? You gave away Kuminga for a player who you feel good about in the medical side. What’s that even mean ??
KP is finished. Why would any team invest in DNPKP
Come on bonercat makes your Kings look real bad too since they only offered players that got released. Could have easily traded Keegan Murray for Kuminga straight across and Kings turned that down.
I definitely watch games. What non effort are you referring to? The high efficiency 20 something he dropped as soon as Kerr needed playing time from him post Butler injury despite 16 DNPs immediately before? Not sure how you think being given significant minutes in all 3 straight games he’s played with the Hawks amounts to “him not getting any more time” than 16 DNPs lol.
Not a single vet in the warriors locker room badmouthed Kuminga on his way out the door. You don’t think vocal Draymond would’ve called him out?
Or you believe that Kuminga was drafted to the warriors and never wanted to be there from draft day, totally negating anything that occured in his entire tenure there?
Stop with this nonsense, you clearly reject anything but a pro employer narrative despite all indications to the opposite. You can bootlick all you want, but don’t try to convince rational people they’re nonsense all the while
You definitely do not watch games. It is extremely clear if you’re only considering this season and not the other four seasons that JK played on the Warriors, the man struggled in his role! If you watched you would have seen. He could not stay in front of his man on defense, he struggled to finish at the rim, he is a poor three-point shooter who is doing well in a small three game sample size. He struggled with his handles, often losing the ball off his foot. I wish JK well, but this is absurd especially coming from knuckleheads that feed into mainstream media and think they know what they’re talking about. I never said anything about badmouth and Kuminga, I never said he was a bad teammate, he struggled in his role. Look at Gui Santos. He’s doing everything Kuminga should have and could have been doing.
Kuminga was upset from the jump when he wasn’t getting playing time. He dogged it when they sent him to the gleague for minutes and in his second year was pissed about not being in the rotation. As was every casual warriors fan, saying Kerr doesn’t play young guys and rookies and instead played lamb and Jerome.
Talk about bootlicking, pure hate with no actual substance backing up your point, or lack thereof. Clearly just hating to hate
Where did I hate? I said the warriors org screwed up.
I’m not a warriors fan first off. I watch games around the league, and the “you don’t watch games” when someone hasn’t done something like dropped a stat without context is the laziest and most baseless cliched argument. Most people comment here because they pay more attention than the average fan. Yes, you pointed out issues in Kumingas game, those are expected of young high potential players. It’s called development. It’s why you take those guys instead of 4 year/more developed rookies who can contribute at a low level right away. Actual substance… What substantive do you attribute that Kuminga was “upset from the jump?” Among supposedly disgruntled players, the kid’s really been generally quiet.
You used Santos as an example. But let’s use other Golden State examples since you think I’m hating (on who?). If you think getting an above average bench rotation guy in moody, a porzingis who probably won’t contribute this year, and Buddy hield salary relief in total from a 2, 7, and 14 pick is all the players fault and not an issue with asset management (which includes player development) IDK what to tell you. Differences of opinion.
Don’t forget Steve Kerr telling Anthony Edwards before the 2020 draft that he was lazy and they wouldn’t take him at #2 even if he was available, but still made him go work out for them so they could tell him that.
Then the morons selected James Wiseman, while they get to watch Edwards incredible work ethic allowing him to improve every off-season and develop into the superstar he is today. If I was a Warriors fan, I’d be praying that Kerr doesn’t come back.
Now you are just making up stuff. Kerr said, according to Edwards, “Is that all you got?”. And as Edwards has stated, that was what motivated to have his great work ethic.
LOL come on man. You’re seriously going to give ANT’s incredible work ethic to Steve Kerr being a dick?
ANT literally said he was working just as hard at the Warriors workouts as he was with other teams.
I’m not making anything up. Here’s the link:
link to espn.com
And the exact quotes from ANT:
“I thought I was working hard,” Edwards said at Timberwolves media day on Thursday. “When he came, I was going through drills and he kept stopping them, like, ‘That’s all you got? That’s all you got?’ And I’m like, ‘Bruh, I’m going hard as you want me to go. What you want me to do? I’m sweating crazy.'”
Edwards joined Kerr and Bob Myers, then the Warriors team president, for dinner later that evening, where they reiterated the same message, including telling Edwards if they had the No. 1 overall selection, they would not have drafted him.
Golden State ended up selecting James Wiseman with the No. 2 overall pick in that draft.
“He’s like, ‘Man, you’ve got to see Steph [Curry], KD and Klay [Thompson] work out,” Edwards said. “They still was continuously telling me, ‘You didn’t work hard enough. If we had the No. 1 pick, we wouldn’t take you.’ And I was just like, ‘Damn, that’s crazy.'”
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Then they took lazy ass Wiseman. Weird thing to defend and insane to give Kerr credit for Ant’s work ethic.
@WolvesSuffer my god, you really must be lacking brain cells. Ant even came out saying that made him a better player. He was NO QUESTION the #1 pick in 2020. Warriors would have picked him as would the other 29 teams. You’re making such a baseless point, the Warriors couldn’t draft Ant! Keep sounding silly, child
Bro, what??? ANT was nowhere close to a consensus #1 pick. Holy crap, talk about revisionist history.
There’s a direct quote that they wouldn’t take him #1. Are you saying ANT is lying?
Are YOU SERIOUS!!!! Yes he was absolute consensus he was going number 1! 100%! what are you even talking about. You must be a child bro seriously. Every mock draft had Ant number 1, every team had Ant number 1. Everyone knew in the spring and summer during covid that whenever they’d hold the draft, Ant was going number 1. How ignorant are you!
It’s insane you think ANT was a consensus #1. By the night of the draft, everyone knew the Wolves were taking him, so yes, he was #1 in the final mocks before the draft.
But there was no consensus. You can look up a million articles. Some had Wiseman 1, some had LaMelo 1, some had Tyrese Haliburton 1 (who somehow fell to like 12). All of these things are easily verifiable.
Using your argument in every other comment, “I was there. I saw the Wolves pre draft stuff. I watched everything. You didn’t, why are you even arguing”
@tball
Here’s a bunch of different pre draft rankings from that draft:
Bleacher Report’s final list has ANT #4:
link to bleacherreport.com
Here’s ESPN’s final rankings on Nov 12, ANT is #3: (This was COVID year, so the draft was Nov 18)
link to espn.com
Here’s an entire list that shows where each site ranked them, in case you want to pick a different site:
link to hoopsprospects.com
3 out of 10 have ANT as #1. That is not consensus. And your beloved Kerr literally told ANT they wouldn’t take him #1, so he clearly wasn’t a consensus #1 among NBA teams either.
Not sure why I’m even using facts and logic though, it’s clearly a waste of my time.
Aww lil child using espn and bleacher report as “facts”. Bro every one tied with the NBA, that’s not some media nut reporter had Ant going one. These media knuckleheads were slobbering all over Melo since he was in middle school. You’re out of your mind bro
FYI, it’s a fact that Ant wasn’t a “consensus #1 pick” (unlike Zion, Cade, Wemby, Flagg).
Ant was thought to have maturity issues.
But you don’t! You said you do, but then you just don’t. So for someone who does and has watched every game this guy has played with the Warriors, they can see the discrepancies between the game being played on the court from the tidbits provided by mainstream media and casual fans, or fans of other teams. It very much sounded like hate to hate, nothing showed the Warriors didn’t want Kuminga. They tried to implement him into their system for over 4 seasons and it didn’t work out. He didn’t want to play the role Kerr asked of him, or couldn’t, and wanted out. He didn’t want to be here before he signed the contract, but he signed it for the guaranteed money as anyone would. This team had plenty of opportunities to trade him prior to this season and they didn’t. His development was not coming around. He really did not improve much at all over the past 4 seasons. He’s grown into his body a bit, gotten stronger. But the developmental skills have not been shown. During the 2022-23 season local media was coming out saying JK was unhappy about playing time. Who knows if that’s true, but that’s how all this noise started in this first place.
I don’t understand what you’re even saying in the last paragraph… You were hating on the Warriors as an org. Most likely because they’ve probably dominated your team for the past decade, whatever… Gui is developing and improving and fulfilling Kerr’s request of the role he’s earned that Kuminga totally could have done? Moody is improving year by year, but clearly has his deficiencies? Trading Buddy was salary relief. JK is an impeding FA, no way ATL picks up a 24.5mil PO unless they’re going to use his contract in a trade. Wiseman was a garbage pick. Knew it from the day they drafted him. Wiseman and Kuminga were picks out of pure hubris from the dubs, I definitely agree with that. But to say it’s completely on the team for their lack of development is just so wrong. Dubs drafted poorly in 2020 and 2021, no lie about that.
Kuminga problem was never not trying just inconsistent. He would have agreat game and the next game you didn’t know he was on the floor. I have no doubt that he can score 20 a game but can he play defense too.
The Wagoneers are ALL like this. Can’t see reality. Cause that means admitting failure. Frankly Otsno big deal. All teams miss now then. Kuminga is just bad cause they prolonged it. Then tried to make him look like the bad guy.
5 yrs and 279 games …. You saying you need more time. Hawks only needed ONE game.
Worst part is Warriors waited this long just to dump him for an expiring contract. DNPKP
What other offers were their? There was not much?
1 game against Wizards who are tanking and not playing 1 starter. Yes they waited too long but fault the owner he voided 2 deals for him.
@tball Kuminga led the team in rebounds/game and still does. Does that scream “not trying” to you? He wouldnt be leading the team in anything if that were true. Kerr played him at Center with 4 PGs and then blamed him when it didnt work.
@Davey, I know I shouldn’t engage with you because you’re like a bot or something, but think within the context of the last 4 and half seasons. Yes, I think it’s great that after 4 years of playing NBA ball that JK finally got on the boards a bit. But he gave up once he got back from that injury. He refused to play for them games for them at times this season. Enough with the Kerr 4 guard lineup nonsense. It’s completely false, a trope created to continue to trash the warriors. As a warrior fan, why do you trash them so much? Ahh I shouldn’t engage.
1. Not a bot, just unpopular amongst the arrogantly wrong on here who hate that I owned them in the marketplace of ideas
2. I dont trash my team, I criticize them
3. I am not a homer fan, I am a real fan
4. You should listen to me more than any poster who hates me on here
5. Winning is all that matters
6. “Enough with the Kerr 4 guard lineup nonsense. It’s completely false.” lmao, you are being reactionary and acting like I am the only one saying this, and you are sick of me writing it – but all it does is prove you have never watched 1 quarter of GSW basketball. Moses Moody is a SG, Kerr has been starting him at PF (to terrible results). When literally all of Dub Nation online is screaming about it, its real. Sorry, but you are just 100% wrong there.
@Davey haha ok not a bot, but a top tier troll/rage bait whatever the kids say.
Fair on criticism, but I read a lot of comments from you that just sound like pure hate.
Fair enough, we love real fans in the bay
I’m all ears
wait, if winning is all that matters then why are so hyped on hating Kerr and the front office?
I mean, c’mon… when I watch OKC run a lineup of Cason Wallace, Shai, Lu Dort, Caruso and Chet is that ok? How often has Kerr played Gui with Draymond, Gui with Horford, Horford with Post, Horford with Dray. The list goes on. And that’s just 4 and 5, eve though this day and age the positions are really nothing more than an identifier. Moody guard/forward at this point my friend and his game play shows. A wing is a better way to identify.
I think you’re trying to say the Warriors don’t have enough size? I think they could always use more size. But for this system it’s not necessarily about getting size for sizes sake and more so can they play high iq ball and have ability switch ability on defense and ideally shoot, which this team has struggled to do consistently even with open shots generated by Kerr’s offense. But I’m sure that’s his fault too
“wait, if winning is all that matters then why are so hyped on hating Kerr and the front office?”
Because they do not want to win. Kerr has said that out loud.
Moody is as much a forward as Klay Thompson is, which is “barely, not really, you really shouldnt play him anywhere but SG”
@Davey oh but they do. Kerr actually has said that they’re not tanking this year and it’s never been in the cards and always competing. So other than the misinformation, you didn’t recognize any of my other points in response. Oh well… it’s unfortunate. Try to get a genuine response and that’s all I get. Oh, and Moody is absolutely interchangeable as a 2 or a 3. If 6’4 Lu Dort is a 3, I don’t see why 6’6 Moses wouldn’t be. Even though positions really don’t have any meaning in this day and age, I’ll play your game
If you think Moody has more size than Dort because he is taller, than you dont know ball.
Davey bro. Really? That’s what we’re doing here? Can’t say anything else other than that? Can’t respond to any other points huh? Dang… disappointing.. really thought i could have a crack at some real discourse with ya but i guess you are a bot or a child, or a troll at that.
He’s probably distraught over Podz having been the hero in last night’s OT win over the Rockets (game high 7 pts on 100% shooting in the OT), since he doesn’t like Podz.
@luvhoops – great takes, no notes.
What you arec missing is that NOBODY offered anything for Kuminga so now blame those other 30 GMs that thought he wasn’t worth picking up like your favorite team that didn’t amke any offer for him.
This year, sure, Plenty of teams tried to get him in prior seasons though.
@WolvesSuffer You are on one… there are soooo many NBA trade rumors, you take each one so seriously? Or with a grain of salt? Plenty of teams wanted him. Your linking rumors that had no traction or substance. Salaries match for the OG trade? No…. so stop with this. You clearly are hating just to hate. I don’t hate the Wolves. Happy for your city that you have a competent team. I don’t think they’re good enough to have been in the conference finals back to back years, but they’ve been incredibly healthy and durable and have a fine starting lineup. Ayo trade was a good one too. Dillingham might good, wonder why they didn’t give him a chance and develop him, gave up on him too early ehh?
Only 2 teams made offers for Kuminga after they came to a stand still on the contract. Kings and Suns. Both only offered bad contracts that would mean warriors taking on more payroll which they couldn’t
Again, yes, this year/this past off-season. But teams tried to get him in PRIOR SEASONS plenty.
There were a few good offers in previous seasons.
First, please for the love of everyone, space out your thoughts. Reading paragraphs on this site is a pain.
Here is the exact link, which I’ve posted here already, but since people can’t read:
link to bleacherreport.com
It’s quoting Zach Lowe of ESPN. It was years ago, they had the salaries to match. And it was at a time when Kerr had already yo-yo’d Kuminga’s minutes earlier that season. So either the front office screwed up by trusting Kerr to develop JK, or Kerr screwed up by not playing him. Unless you really think it was a good decision to not get OG for a package centered around JK, who you obviously think sucks.
Pacers offered their 8th pick in the draft 2 years ago and the warriors turned it down. Bulls wanted Kuminga and a 1st round pick for Caruso. Lacob voided the deal.
It appears luvhoops may be right. If my math is correct, JK is averaging 26 min and 20 pts a game with a +/- of +19.7 in the three games he played for ATL (all victories, btw). Once they extended him, they should have showcased him prior to the deadline, and gave him 25/30 min a game, especially considering the history between them. I wish Miami would have traded for him, we could have used that athleticism for the low low price.
100.
– it’s not as if he’d have put them under their current .500-ish level, and there was an excellent chance that his value to the rest of the league would have increased substantially if he’d been given even 20 min/gm consistently.
Nonsense – JK has averaged 22min per game over his career. Coming into this season, he had been “showcased” for 4 seasons already. More minutes to start this year wasn’t going to re-write the book on him, and any thought otherwise is just Monday morning quarterbacking.
Teams know him, his profile is clear, and no one was knocking the door down to get him.
As others have posted, teams offered OG Anunoby and Alex Caruso for him in the past.
And playing him 20 minutes compared to all those DNP-CDs obviouslywould have helped his value.
No doubt the Warriors have botched it in hindsight, but they held onto him because they thought he would develop further – he didn’t.
As I said, playing him this year wouldn’t have changed other teams view of him – he wasn’t going to get an OG or a Caruso now, that ship has long sailed.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but ofc, opinions aren’t facts.
NBA teams have watching Kuminga for close to 6 years now. What more needs to be showcased?
He spent 5 years playing for a coach that didn’t want him in an organization that didn’t use him correctly. Acting like his Warriors struggles make him a known commodity as a 23-year-old is hilarious.
Huh? If you believe he was being used incorrectly, don’t you think other teams would be able to see that? So, no reason to showcase. Teams would be lining up for him.
Yes, just like Nickeil Alexander Walker. Barely played for the Pelicans, barely played for the Jazz, then got to a team that used him correctly with a coach that believed in him in Minnesota, and he played well after 4 years of doing nothing.
Now, in his 7th season, he’s blossomed into a legitimate starting caliber player.
It happens a lot in the NBA. NAW is the one I can remember because it’s recent and was with the Wolves, but it happens all the time. And JK wasn’t unplayable, he just wasn’t as good as he thought he was. But he was better than plenty of guys Kerr played over him.
You finally understand the problem. He isn’t good as he thinks he is. Now do you understand why Kerr had trouble playing him.
Do you remember the guys he played over JK?
Kerr screwed the situation up completely. The fact that anyone is trying to argue against that is insane.
And way to just ignore the development part under a real coach. JK has played well in Atlanta while Porzingis is sick every game just like the past four years. Another terrible trade.
Bro you are delusional to argue this. You don’t watch Warriors games and have no substance to provide. Just espn clickbait articles. If JK isn’t fulfilling the role and other players are, who would you play? It’s an easy answer. Stop, you sound so silly
You haven’t provided any substance at all. Just “I saw this I saw that” garbage. The arguments of people without facts.
Again, if JK was so bad he shouldn’t play, they should have traded him for basically any other offer than the one they took. Because they completely overplayed their hand and couldn’t develop him, they screwed up. It’s not difficult to understand, but here we are anyway.
Oh yeah, no substance at all. Not actually watching how he plays! I provided all analysis in my prior comments, don’t be so lazy. Clearly you don’t read in addition to watch. Stop with your nonsense
GSW is ~.500, so those others that supposedly were better at “fulfilling the role” didn’t affect the win pct much.
The reason they should have played him more is because they could have gotten a better return for him if they had.
@WolvesSufferer NAW played college ball. NAW played organized ball his entire life. NAW was a prime scorer coming out of college. Comparing NAW to JK is so wrong on so many levels. Not only two completely different players, but two completely different paths. JK had soooo many opportunities with the Warriors. But the kid that reads the espn articles and never watched any of the games he played in wants to talk about it.
@Giants – If I saw you trying to race your car in reverse, I would know that you aren’t using your car in the optimal way it should be used to win that race. That being said, I still wouldn’t know how fast your car is in drive or how likely it is to win the race because I haven’t seen it not in reverse.
Hope this helps.
I’m not sure what you are trying to say…Scouts have seen Kuminga drive forward one, then drive backwards the next.
Why would teams help Warriors lol. No one spent money on FA this year.
Once you’ve embarrassed JK by telling him that his family is taking too much food from the family room. There is no reason to believe he would give you maximum effort. Warriors were great under Bob Myers and terrible ever since.
😂 the food in the family room was a hilarious point. I know my job lets me take as much pizza as I want from the pizza parties they schedule instead of meaningful change.
It didn’t come MDJ it came from one of the sport writers covering the warriors. A few of teh sport writers are very bad cover people. Yesterday 1 of them was claiming the warriors will trade Butler for Lebron next year. Why would the Lakers want a injured Butler to carry most of the year?
This again lols. Absolutely delusional and it’s done. Giannis will never be a warrior.
You still hung up on the Giannis thing. Time to move on.
Giannis said he doesn’t wnat to play for the warriors. End of story.
PLEASE! Kuminga mostly stunk with GS given the opportunity. Very inconsistent. Not good for someone who thought he was a future star. Wow, he has excelled with Atl in 2 games vs the lowly wizards. And 1 versus slightly better blazers. Anyone who has watched EVERY Warriors game that thinks Jk was important to keep ? Really?? Sure, it would be nice to see kp playing but theycouldve gotten a bag of balls in the trade. And players like Moody, Santos, Podz have shown out with the JK drama gone. The Butler loss and the Steph injury make the complaining about KP absence moot. But, we’ll continue to hear the Kuminga lament I’m sure.
“Kuminga mostly stunk with GS given the opportunity.”
Like averaging 26 in the WCS? YDKB. Kuminga is/was/always will be a great player in this league. Kerr buried him for no reason at all. MDJ saying he still loves Kerr proves he doesn’t know ball either.
He’s the next LeBron from what I hear
You lost the assets you traded for Jimmy. You lost the value on Kuminga playing Jimmy over him. You won nothing as a result of the trade, and you have the exact same number of championships (zero) and the same regular season record now as you would having never traded for Butler in the first place.
Absolute Masterpiece.
What even is your point here? Warriors were in .500 purgatory WITH Steph and they got Jimmy and became one of top teams the second half. If Steph doesn’t strain a hammy, they beat Minny and they’re in the conference finals. So better to live out purgatory, let JK play and make mistakes and suffer losses while Steph Curry continues to play some of his best basketball, right? Not go for a championship caliber all-star that essentially does everything you idealists think JK will be doing? Give me a break with this already
My point is that you’re in the exact same spot with less assets, Steph is old and his body hasn’t been able to handle a full season work load in quite some time. Speculation about what would have happened in the playoffs had he not again gotten hurt is meaningless.
The difference between what I said and what you replied is that what I said actually happened, you lost those assets and Kuminga’s remaining value for nothing. And what you said is conjecture based on hopes and dreams and a 39 year old hamstring, knee and ankle that don’t work like they used too.
I think of you turned down the dial on your emotional outburst and listened, you can ask around, JK is not someone I think is any good, it’s not about him. I don’t think his current hot streak will last because it never has so far in his career. Just like over the hill 35+ year old stars don’t equal championships or health.
The ultimate point is that the state of the warriors franchise is worse now having made the Jimmy Butler trade compared to never having made the Jimmy Butler trade. Even the most jaded homer can agree to that.
@ Druuu You said the Warriors lost value by playing Jimmy over him. Is value more important than winning? Injuries aside really. Like you can play that game all day. JK could break his leg tonight and everything changes. So enough with that.
Speculation isn’t meaningless if evidence backs it up enough. Were the Warriors not a top team after acquiring Jimmy? Did they not have a shot at a championship? So you’re point is null. That’s outrageous to say they are worse off now than prior. Just so ignorant. So instead Warriors still have JK, Wiggins. Maybe KA. So you drop out of the play-in last year and then what? Continue to waste the twilight or Steph’s prime or make a move and try to win? They were a fringe play-in team. Fringe at best and most likely dropping out of the play-in. I’ve been a Warriors fan for as long as I can remember. They were absolute trash of a franchise for my entire infancy, childhood, youth, and adolescence and twenty years before that other than the ‘Run TMC’ era. I never in my lifetime thought they would have a banner reach the rafters, let alone 4. I want them to win. I don’t want see their failed draft picks continue to fail while we have one of the greatest humans to ever touch a basketball. Getting Jimmy was the best move Dunleavy has made yet.
Warriors are still far better right now with Jimmy coming back from an ACL tear at 37 years old than without him and having Wiggins, JK, KA, Lindy, whoever.
That’s a lot of ifs. You mean if the oldest team in the league didn’t get hurt in a playoff series where they have to play basically every other day they might have won?
It’s almost like having a bunch of old veterans isn’t a great strategy. It would have been more shocking if Golden State had stayed healthy for the playoffs with their aging veterans.
And if they beat Minnesota, they still get destroyed by the Thunder, so his original point stays the same. The Warriors don’t win a championship if they beat Minnesota.
@WolvesSufferer lil buddy. The Wolves lost 4 games to the Warriors last season, they would have been run off the court just like game 1 with Steph playing. No Doubt. They played OKC well last year, but you ain’t watching so it doesn’t matter. Just enjoy the Wolves being good. I know you a bandwagon Ant fan. Became a Wolves at the right time huh? Keep it cool frontrunner
Regular season and playoffs are completely different. You’d think a Warriors fan who has had the privilege of watching a ton of playoff teams over the past decade would know that, but oh well.
And again, even if they beat the Wolves, you are absolutely delusional to think that injury prone pile of old bones had any chance to get past the Thunder. They were unbeatable. But it’s fine, cope how you must.
I’ve been a Wolves fan since JR Rider, so yeah, lots of losing. Rubio, Flynn, Randy Foye, lots of screwups. I’ve seen coaches destroy players for decades. Certainly not a bandwagon fan. But I would guess you started watching the Warriors right around the time they finally started winning. It’s the only way you can be this die hard of a fan and have no real knowledge of anything.
What you know about Rider. Come here to talk smack on the Warriors and claim a bay area legend like he’s your own. Get outta here. I’ve been alive 31 years and watching Adonal Foyle swat your shot or young Larry Hughes get a bucket on you. I don’t understand your means to hate then? I haven’t said one bad thing about the Wolves. But here you to talk just to talk without anything real to back it up. Just “JK scored 20 points against my Wolves in the playoffs” “Kerr sucks because he didn’t play JK and he played other guys over him” I mean so baseless and mindless. No real analysis. Go watch your team. Enjoy how they play competitive basketball and appreciate it.
OKC was pushed to 7 games twice – so they were obviously not “unbeatable”.
You make good points overall Druu but imo the jimmy trade was a no brainer
They got him for peanuts and he showed an immediate effect
I think we all have gone too far with. The all ( championship ) or nothing stances on trades
Ex – My lakers made the Wcf off the Rw trade and 3 2nds for Rui that year … Now come 2027 Rui will prolly walk , nobody ( but a bad Vando contract remains ( their own fault ) and they are out the 27 pick to now Mem from Utah
Was it worth it … Yes imo …. still … they kept the franchise afloat which kept open doors that wouldn’t have been open today to compete by doing so … Prolly no Luka without the Wcf run although that’s a much bigger can of worms
Hard to call it a no brainer when it’s worked out as poorly as it has.
It was a fine trade, and a decent hail mary to save Steph’s final years. But nothing about acquiring Jimmy Butler is ever a no brainer, especially when he hadn’t played more than like 60 games in a season in years and was going to get a huge extension on any deal.
The assets they gave up for Jimmy weren’t super valuable, so from that standpoint the trade was fine. But it had plenty of risk at the time, and all it got them was a 2nd round playoff exit while they get to pay Jimmy $100M the next 2 seasons to not play really at all.
Adding in that it moved JK completely out of the rotation, it hurt his trade value as well, and cost them in that way.
We all understand why they traded for Jimmy, but I don’t think it was a no brainer by any means with Butler’s history and extension.
If Butler never got injured its a great trade. You are basing it was a bad trade after he got injured but nobody knew he would blow out his knee.
Butler is always injured, that obviously is part of it. You can’t just ignore an injury from an aging, injury prone player.
Extension was only 1 year
The fact that the pick didn’t effect their Stephien rule either was Big
They have played 650 ball with Jimmy sub 500 w Jk for long enough
I don’t like Gsw and hate defending them but from a macro sense they have navigated post Covid very well ( 1 title multiple playoffs ) even if there are a lotta blemishes on the docket in that same time period
You can’t predict injs
* I think Mia probably asked for the 28 pick and once Gsw got it to the 26 pick it made it all pretty easy for them to pull the string – Maybe not no brainer but rarely trades are
Butler has been hurt every single season since he left Chicago, but ok.
And it was a 2 year extension. He’s signed for this year and next year.
He had a player option neways this year he was never declining so I’d say 1 yr ext is a lot more accurate representation
@WolvesSufferer What is your point? It was obviously a no-brainer! You sound so silly, it’s making me nauseous. They went from a team about to fall out of the 10th seed to a championship contenders, wtf are you talking about you silly child. Jimmy has never tore his ACL wth. JK has been injured for a huge chunk of the season the past three years! Talking about injury prone. You love to say this now, right? Now that Jimmy tore his ACL. But you’re ignorant and clearly lack soooo much competence to think this trade wasn’t a no-brainer for the Warriors.
When you’re a contending team, with Steph Curry. You make that trade. They gave away Wiggins and a pick for Jimmy. Other contracts were expiring or salary dumps. This was a no-brainer, they preserved their future picks and didn’t trade any young talent for him. Thinking that correlation of getting Jimmy led to them trading JK and that’s why it wasn’t a no brainer, with injury history is so simple minded. Done with you
You can’t read, so it’s good you’re done with me. The JK trade value part was a very minor issue of the deal. Butler’s injury history and the team having no assets left for another move now are bigger issues. They have no salaries to match for anyone, and Butler is out for a long time.
So the original point was correct. If you think it was a no brainer, that’s fine, but history has proven it shouldn’t have been, and the actual result is obvious it was a mistake now. It’s a weird thing to argue when we can see the actual result was disastrous.
I am reading very clearly AND I think you have an inclination to hate Jimmy. By all means, you have that right as a Wolves fan. But saying that this trade wasn’t a no-brainer is completely wrong. And making this point after the fact, is so insanely ridiculous. History had not proven this. When Miami signed Jimmy, history didn’t prove anything. You’re literally making a point after the fact. You didn’t come on here saying it was a poor trade or in question a year ago? That’s the argument you made, god you sound silly
Warriors front office has run the team into the GROUND.
The fascination of allowing Kerr to push small ball and terrible in game rotations even against athletic skilled teams has pushed the Warriors out of contention.
We love Kerr, but he has to go.
At this point it isnt a hot take anymore that Kerr isnt a good coach currently, his system destroyed guys like Kuminga and Wiseman
Kuminga, maybe. Wiseman’s been bad basically his whole career. Made a bunch of money because he was ranked highly coming out of high school. Only played in 3 college games.
Yep, but when I say it, it -is- a hot take. So bizarre. He is utterly terrible at every aspect of his job and especially so since 2023.
@dezpoo
Other players like:
Ty Jerome
Ryan Rollins
Kevon Looney not coming close to his ceiling
Donte DiVincenzo
Like Kuminga and Wiseman … so what other players has he destroyed where they’ve succeeded elsewhere? LOL
Kuminga was the only player that’s been above average and he just didn’t fit the system while also being blocked (Draymond/Butler) in his rotations.
Wiseman is a terrible example to use. He was physically gifted, underskilled, and had a terrible run of injuries.
Wiseman was never going to turn into a top 5 center in the league, but he was a horrible fit in golden state
If wiseman was picked to Charlotte or Chicago he would have probably had a better career
The owner is running the team to the ground. He doesn’t want to rebuild but trade away all assets thinking they can still win. Made them draft Kuminga and voided the trade of Kuminga for Caruso. Made MDJ go all out for Giannis when he wasn’t coming to the warriors so he had to make a quick deal for Kuminga. Lacob needs to sti op sticking his nose into the team.
He’s also the reason they won a bunch of titles when he spent $500M while the rest of the league spent $150M.
An owners job is to provide money not tell them who to draft and what they can do. He is not an expert and the ego gets in the way.
I’m not disagreeing, I’m just saying you kind of have to take them together. Most teams owners would’ve broken up the core of that championship team and lowered the payroll.
It doesn’t mean he hasn’t royally screwed up some things since, but if they had a “shrewd” owner they certainly don’t spend the amount they did in the Durant years.
Yes he can get praised for that and if it wasn’t for the new CBA he would have continued spending. His problem is wanting to draft players over rule the scouts. The scouts wanted to take Wagner not Kuminga. Since it was lacob that drafted Kuminga he wouldn’t allow them to trade Kuminga until this year.
I agree 100%. If reports are true, which I’m sure they are, that everyone else mostly wanted Wagner, it’s a huge screw up, and then nixing deals would be another big screw up. I just don’t think Dunleavy or Kerr are very good either.
And yes, we both agree he deserves praise for spending the money. I am in no way suggesting he shouldn’t have done that, I wish all owners wanted to win that bad.
WolvesSuffer you are so backwards in your train of thought bro. You have history mixed up completely. Please, please, please do some proper research before saying baseless things! The influx of the cap was what allowed the dubs to get KD! Other teams spent a boatload of money on mid to below average role players because of it. Guys like E’twaan Moore and Kent Bazemore got paid. The reason why teams break up their core now and player movement is so high is because of the current CBA! Stop with this, please! It’s getting more and more ridiculous the more I read your comments
Jesus man. I didn’t say that’s how they got Durant. They spent the money to extend their own players, and were wayyyy over the cap every year except the one year they signed Durant. And they drafted almost their entire core, I don’t blame them for that run at all. It was perfect. But not possible if the owner isn’t willing to spend as much money as he did.
It’s not complicated, at least I didn’t think it was. A cheap owner doesn’t extend Draymond and Klay and Steph while also spending big on Durant and then Iggy which was like 4x the cost because of the tax penalties.
The owner outspent everyone so bad they changed the rules in the next CBA because other owners didn’t want to try and match it. These are well known facts, I thought.
They were great for a long ass time. They spent $500M one season. None of that is a lie.
No sh** they were over the cap after they signed all of their home grown guys and KD! How do you not understand that is why they created this CBA in the first place. The current CBA punishes the dynasty. OKC is in a good position because of their draft picks, but they will eventually have to get rid of their home grown talent because of it. $500mil not on payroll you silly kid. So many other teams were in the penalty as well. I mean, I supposed to respect your basketball opinion when you say “Kerr isn’t very good”? I mean what world are we living in? Are you a casual Warriors fan or something, what is happening. He literally changed the scope of basketball as we know it. There is no unlocking Stephen Curry, no unlocking Klay Thompson. No position-less basketball and ending the “tweener”. No massive change in the game, without Steve Kerr. Please, I truly believe you have something in there and not just ignorance!
Warriors failed Kuminga thats obvious now that he’s killing it in Atlanta. But worse is they failed their franchise. By not moving him sooner. Or making him look good to trade him. Clearly he is worth more than a salary dump.
When could they have moved him and what were the offers? He couldn’t have been traded at the draft. That would be against league rules.
He was in trade rumors for like three seasons, why do you keep asking the same question in 8 different comments? Kuminga was traded at the lowest value he had, that’s not debatable.
All you have said that Kuminga was a possible include in a trade. That is still only one trade. Where are all the rest.
They had six yrs to trade him. Starting with his pick in draft. You just paste your answers. Gaveochanged in 5 yrs. Hawks thankU
If Kerr doesnt come back it would be so cool to see Mark Jackson coaching again
No thanks …
This Kuminga Hype is BS. Those were blowout loses with the game well done and over vs weak teams. Only 3 games total. Whatever. Talented yes. Can slam and shoot sometimes yes. Needed the ball more in GS yes. But we were loving and dying off of him. He’s not a team guy. At least here he wasn’t. And the playoffs ? Unreliable. Same iso ball for his own shot and defense iffy. Mistakes everywhere. 3 pointers everywhere. The guy needs to go to a team and just play and he wants to be the focal point. Great. But not here with Curry.
But why do his teammates love him then?? Why????
“He’s not a team guy.” he led the team in PPG vs the Wolves. He smiles constantly. Are you blaming Kerr playing 4 SGs with him and failing on him?
I can’t beleive he’s going to sink the Warriors both as a player and a GM
Dunleavy/Kerr treat is Dubs fans as lemming idiots.
1) Of course the two of you are not Doctors. but you talk to the team doctors everyday, going into great depth on major injury concerns. If you don’t want to disclose just say it.
2) Butler was Plan B last year, and it only cost one first round pick (and near All Star Wiggins plus three other players). He was available because the Heat had suspended him three times for detrimental conduct. And Butler completely disappeared during the playoffs vs TWolves, his chance to step up and be The Beast in Steph’s absence. Wiggins and a first for Jimmy (who then had to be maxed) isn’t going to age well…
3) Speaking of the playoffs, vs the Rockets Steph played 42mins in game six and 46mins in game 7, then blew out in game 1 vs TWolves.
Kerr blamed it on aggressive league scheduling driven by corporate greed. Then topped it off by proclaiming the Dubs would have won the Title with a healthy Steph 😂
They would have though, Steph had the whole league shook. They beat the Rockets.
I agree with everything else you wrote except the last sentence.
They still believe theyll win the title this season. Its not bad to be optimistic, but its bad to be delusional.
Who is they?