Thunder Rumors

Northwest Notes: Murray, Jazz Rookies, Sensabaugh, Holmgren

After signing a four-year, maximum-salary extension during the offseason, Nuggets guard Jamal Murray has faced some criticism in recent months for a slow, inconsistent start to the season. However, after averaging 17.8 points per game on .402/.337/.782 shooting in his first 13 outings, Murray has registered 22.2 PPG on .481/.407/.905 shooting in his last 11, including a season-high 34 points in Saturday’s win over Detroit.

“If people are gonna talk about me not making shots, then so be it,” Murray said after that performance, per Bennett Durando of The Denver Post. “I know what I’m capable of. I know what I do. There’s a reason why I’m here, and there’s a reason why I’ve been able to win with this team and be here for years and be able to develop chemistry and all that. So I just let people talk. That’s what they do best.”

Nuggets head coach Michael Malone, who told reporters that Murray’s best stretch of the season has come in the past “seven to eight games,” noted that the standout guard often gets off to slow starts in the fall before finding his rhythm and producing like an All-Star. Malone stressed that he remains fully confident in Murray and added that he hopes the 27-year-old is tuning out his critics.

“I know that everybody is really riding Jamal Murray really hard right now. That’s not gonna do him any favors, man,” Malone said. “The guy cares. He wants to play better. He wants to help this team. His heart’s in the right place. And supporting him will go a long way. And that’s why I tell guys, don’t look at the damn phone. I don’t give a damn what you guys say about me. And he shouldn’t either.”

Here’s more from around the Northwest:

  • The lack of progress so far this season from Jazz rookies Cody Williams and Isaiah Collier is an issue, according to John Hollinger of The Athletic, who points out that Williams and Collier rank 331st and 332nd in both PER and BPM out of the 332 players who have logged at least 200 minutes so far this season. While it’s good news for Utah’s draft position that the duo hasn’t been more productive, Williams’ ineffectiveness on offense and Collier’s shooting and turnover issues are becoming concerning, Hollinger opines.
  • The Jazz did see some positive player development in Saturday’s loss to Philadelphia, with Brice Sensabaugh scoring a season-high 20 points and turning in one of the best games of his career, per Andy Larsen of The Salt Lake Tribune (subscription required). Sensabaugh isn’t a defensive asset, but performance like Saturday’s suggest he may have enough offensive potential to make up for that, Larsen writes.
  • Thunder big man Chet Holmgren‘s recovery from his pelvic fracture is “testing his patience,” according to head coach Mark Daigneault, who says Holmgren wants to be working out and playing, but still needs to fully heal. “I’m not going to give you guys the blow-by-blow of what he’s doing, but you don’t go from like crutches to playing,” Daigneault said on Sunday (Twitter link via Joel Lorenzi of The Oklahoman). “So there’s going to be a progression, and he’s going to go through that, and he’s right where he should be right now.”

Northwest Notes: Randle, DiVincenzo, Henderson, Jazz, Nuggets, Dort, Wallace

The Timberwolves haven’t looked like the team that went to the Western Conference Finals last year in the early part of this season after replacing Karl-Anthony Towns with Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo via trade. Randle has a $30.9MM player option for next season, and Fred Katz of The Athletic ponders whether the veteran forward will wind up opting in as opposed to hitting free agency.

As Katz points out, there are few teams with projected cap space next offseason. Trades to shed salary to create cap space are also hard to pull off, and teams may be pickier than ever with their long-term money, given the restrictions in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Katz also looks to other top potential free agents like Jimmy Butler and James Harden, and the difficulty either would have in finding suitable money from a competitive team if each declines his player option for 2025/26.

While Randle and his representation likely wouldn’t have considered proposing a team-friendly long-term deal below his projected option salary to Minnesota in the past, the new CBA landscape could change things. Randle, who is extension-eligible, is averaging 20.4 points, 7.1 rebounds and 4.4 assists per game this season.

We have more from the Northwest Division:

  • DiVincenzo continues to round into form after a cold start to the season, shooting 48.5% from three in his past five games. After the Timberwolves won consecutive games on Wednesday and Friday, the guard spoke on the team’s chemistry, according to The Star Tribune’s Chris Hine (Twitter link). “We know what the expectations are,” DiVincenzo said. “We know everything and everybody feels it. But at the end of the day, can’t do s–t about it. We have to stay together. You either grow apart or grow together. Tonight was huge.
  • The Timberwolves‘ narrow win over the Rockets on Friday showcased a team with title aspirations, The Athletic’s Jon Krawczynski writes. Anthony Edwards hit a game-winner, head coach Chris Finch handled rotations well, and several pieces stood out. But the play of Randle and DiVincenzo is perhaps the biggest reason for optimism, Krawczynski writes, with Randle going for 27 points and DiVincenzo hitting six threes. “It’s tough. Four straight years, four different teams,” DiVincenzo said. “But the thing about this team is they’ve embraced me. They’ve embraced my ups and downs and continued to push me because I know — and they know — the tide turns. You ain’t gonna be down the whole season. That’s everybody’s mentality here, and I really feel at home.
  • 2023 No. 3 overall pick Scoot Henderson‘s stats for the Trail Blazers this season are underwhelming, but he had one of the best moments of his young NBA career on Thursday against Utah. Henderson made the game-winner for Portland while scoring 18 points and 10 assists. “You dream of plays like that,” Henderson said, according to Rose Garden Report’s Sean Highkin.
  • Meanwhile, the Jazz falling to Portland in last-second fashion was an “ideal loss,” opines Andy Larsen of The Salt Lake Tribune. Rookie Isaiah Collier drew his second career start and showed flashes while the rest of the young core got an opportunity for big minutes.
  • The Nuggets have lost two games in a row and surrendered 149 points to the Cavaliers in their latest defeat. After Friday’s loss to Cleveland, Nikola Jokic addressed Denver’s lackluster play that has the team outside the top six in the West, according to DNVR Sports’ Harrison Wind (Twitter link). “We are not even close to where we’re supposed to be,” Jokic said. “I think how bad we’ve played, we’re in a good spot. We need to start thinking what I can do for this team to help, not what the team can do to help me…We should point [the thumb not the finger].
  • Thunder guards Luguentz Dort and Cason Wallace are both listed as out for Saturday’s game against the Hornets, according to The Oklahoman’s Joel Lorenzi (Twitter link). Dort is dealing with an ankle sprain while Wallace is suffering from a quad contusion. This will be Wallace’s first career missed game since entering the league last year.

And-Ones: Dybantsa, Hartenstein, Samanic, Ratings, Threes

Utah Prep wing AJ Dybantsa is a candidate to be the No. 1 overall pick in the 2026 NBA draft. When he received his first basketball paycheck — $1,000 for winning Massachusetts Player of the Year as a freshman — he didn’t keep it, instead donating it to a local Boys & Girls Club, as Jared Weiss details in a feature story for The Athletic.

Don’t take anything for granted,” Dybantsa told The Athletic recently. “People are less fortunate and don’t have what we have. If I continue this route, I’m going to get a lot more money than that. So, I might as well just donate (that check) back to the community.”

Dybantsa reportedly secured a massive name, image and likeness (NIL) windfall when he committed to BYU. According to Weiss, the 17-year-old has kept his focus on basketball despite becoming a very famous — and wealthy — athlete.

People just gonna talk, but I (didn’t) even know how much I’m getting. They just tell my dad all of that,” Dybantsa said of his father Ace, who negotiated the deal. “I’m trying to make it to the NBA, so wherever they can get me the fastest there with the best development, there’s a whole lot of pillars that come with it. Money’s going to come if I do the work, so I’m not worried about the money in a year.”

Here’s more from around the basketball world:

  • Thunder center Isaiah Hartenstein has become a minority owner of Ratiopharm Ulm, the German basketball club announced in a press release. “I got involved because I was searching for a German team that I could be a part of — one that, if I were younger and trying to make the next level, would get me there,” Hartenstein said. “I feel like they do a great job of developing young talent and helping them advance in their careers. The team is well-run, and even though they focus on helping players take the next step, they remain competitive. That mix was really exciting for me. And growing up, I always loved the fans they had.” Hartenstein grew up in Germany, where both he and his father Florian played professionally.
  • Former NBA forward Luka Samanic is in advanced talks to join Spanish club Baskonia, which competes in the EuroLeague, reports Donatas Urbonas of BasketNews.com. Samanic, who played for Utah last season, has been playing for Cibona in his native Croatia. Cibona is not a member of the EuroLeague.
  • Ahead of the NBA Cup championship game, commissioner Adam Silver discussed the NBA’s declining TV ratings and the increase in three-point field goals, which some fans and observes believe has hurt the league’s appeal. John Hollinger of The Athletic thinks the discourse about ratings and threes “ring hollow.” Marc Stein conveys a similar sentiment in a Substack post, downplaying any concerns about ratings.

Caruso Out Thursday With Hip Strain

  • Thunder defensive stalwart Alex Caruso has been ruled out of Thursday’s game vs. Indiana due to a left hip strain, as Rylan Stiles of Sports Illustrated relays. According to Stiles, Caruso exited Monday’s contest early when he dove for a loose ball and appeared to land on his hip. Caruso, who recently signed a four-year, $81.1MM extension, will miss his ninth game of the season Thursday, largely due to issues with his left hip, Stiles notes.

Jaylin Williams Ready To Make Season Debut

Thunder big man Jaylin Williams is available to make his season debut on Monday. Williams is no longer on the injury report, Joel Lorenzi of The Oklahoman tweets.

Oklahoma City plays the Wizards on Monday. Williams had been on the road with the team the past nine days while it played in the NBA Cup semifinals and finals in Las Vegas, then embarked on a two-game road trip to Florida. He went through individual workouts during that time.

Williams originally suffered a right hamstring strain early in training camp. The team stated in early October that he would miss the remainder of camp and the entire preseason while rehabbing the hamstring. The 22-year-old suffered a setback during a workout in late October. At the time, he was expected to miss four-to-six more weeks.

Williams was a valuable backup for Oklahoma City last season, averaging 4.0 points and 3.4 rebounds per contest in 69 games while shooting 36.8% from three-point range.

With Chet Holmgren still sidelined by a pelvic fracture, Williams could jump right into the rotation.  The Thunder haven’t had their frontcourt healthy all season, with Williams sidelined until now, Isaiah Hartenstein‘s debut delayed until November 20, and Holmgren out since Nov. 10. However, they’re 22-5 and lead the Western Conference.

Williams was selected with the 34th pick in the 2022 draft. He signed a four-year contract that runs through the end of next season.

Alex Caruso Signs Four-Year Extension With Thunder

Veteran guard Alex Caruso and the Thunder have agreed to a four-year, $81MM contract extension, Shams Charania of ESPN reports. The team has officially announced the deal in a press release.

Caruso became eligible for the $81,096,960 extension on Saturday. Because it has been six months since he was traded to the Thunder, he was allowed to sign for up to 140% of this season’s estimated average salary ($12.93MM) and for up to four new years. Prior to Saturday, his maximum extension would have been worth $48,875,400 over three new years.

The extension will begin at $18,102,000 in 2025/26 and will rise annually by 8%, increasing to $22,446,480 by the final season. It’s unclear whether or not it will be fully guaranteed.

Caruso was due to become an unrestricted free agent after this season. He’s in the last year of a four-year, $36.98MM contract.

Caruso was traded straight up by the Bulls for Josh Giddey in June. He’s one of the NBA’s best perimeter defenders, earning All-Defensive team nods each of the past two seasons.

He started 57 of 71 games with the Bulls last season but has come off the bench in all 19 games in which he’s played for his new team this season. He’s averaging 5.7 points, 2.9 rebounds, 2.4 assists and a career-high 1.9 steals in 20.2 minutes per contest.

Caruso shot a career-best 46.8% from the field last season but has struggled with his shooting this season (38.5%). However, he has helped Oklahoma City become the league’s premier defensive club. The Thunder have allowed the fewest points per game in the NBA. They also lead the league in opponents’ field goal percentage and 3-point percentage.

Caruso’s extension means the Thunder no longer project to have any 2025 unrestricted free agents on their standard roster.

Community Shootaround: 2024/25 NBA MVP Race

As we relayed on Friday, three-time Most Valuable Player Nikola Jokic led the way in the first MVP straw poll conducted by ESPN’s Tim Bontemps for the 2024/25 season. However, while Jokic earned 57 first-place votes from the 100 media members polled by Bontemps, it’s clearly a three-player race at this point.

Jokic totaled 827 total points in the voting, with Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander at 678 points and Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo at 643. Gilgeous-Alexander received 24 first-place votes, while Antetokounmpo got 19 — no other player earned a single first-place vote, and Celtics forward Jayson Tatum was the only other player to even claim a second-place vote (he got three).

Plenty could change between now and the end of the regular season, and injury luck is always a factor, but it seems highly likely at this point that one of Jokic, Gilgeous-Alexander, or Antetokounmpo will be named this season’s Most Valuable Player. Here are their cases so far:

Nikola Jokic:

As usual, the Nuggets center has been an advanced-stats star. He leads the NBA in player efficiency rating (31.9), win shares per 48 minutes (.287), box plus/minus (12.8), and value over replacement player (3.0).

Of course, Jokic’s traditional stats look awfully impressive too. His 31.0 points per game would be a career best, as would his league-leading 50.0% mark on three-point attempts. He’s nearly averaging a triple-double, with 13.0 rebounds and 9.8 assists per game.

The main knock against Jokic at this point is that his Nuggets are fighting to stay out of play-in territory — they’re currently tied for sixth in the Western Conference at 14-11. But it’s hard to blame the big man for that modest record. Denver has a +9.7 net rating in his 819 minutes on the court, while their net rating in the 391 minutes he hasn’t played is a brutal -14.3.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander:

Gilgeous-Alexander is averaging 30.3 points, 6.2 assists, and 5.5 rebounds per game with a 50.8% field goal percentage, a very strong mark for a guard. He’s also the only player in the NBA who is averaging at least two steals and one block per contest.

The fact that MVPs historically come from teams at or near the top of the standings works in SGA’s favor — his Thunder are 22-5, which is the second-best record in the league and the top mark in the Western Conference. Oklahoma City has a three-game lead in the conference standings on the No. 2 Rockets.

While his supporting cast is certainly stronger than Jokic’s, Gilgeous-Alexander has obviously had a huge hand in OKC’s success. The team has a +15.5 net rating in his 935 minutes and a +1.5 mark in 361 minutes without him on the floor.

The Thunder star also ranks first in the NBA in defensive win shares (2.0) and total win shares (5.4), while placing just behind Jokic in WS/48, BPM, and VORP. His only real weakness is his subpar three-point rate of 33.5% on 6.3 attempts per night.

Giannis Antetokounmpo:

No NBA player has averaged more points per game this season than Antetokounmpo (32.7), who is also among the league leaders in rebounds per game (11.6). The Bucks forward also fills the box score with 6.0 assists and 1.5 blocks per night, along with a career-best field goal percentage of 61.3%.

Giannis is right there with Jokic in terms of PER (31.8) and ranks third behind Jokic and SGA in BPM (9.1) and VORP (2.4). He earns extra points for pulling the Bucks out of an early-season hole, but as a result of that slow start, the team is still just 15-12, fifth in the Eastern Conference. That won’t help his case, so the Bucks will have to keep winning.

Antetokounmpo’s on/off-court numbers are also surprisingly unflattering compared to his top two MVP competitors. Milwaukee’s net rating is essentially the same with him on the court (+1.4) as it is when he’s not playing (+1.3).

We want to know what you think. Which of these three players would you be your MVP pick right now? Which one do you expect to lead the MVP race as the season progresses? Outside of this trio, which player do you think has the best chance to make a run at this season’s MVP award?

Head to the comment section below to weigh in with your thoughts!

Alex Caruso Newly Eligible For Four-Year Extension

It has been exactly six months since Alex Caruso was traded from Chicago to Oklahoma City, meaning the extend-and-trade restrictions imposed on the veteran guard during that half-year window have lifted.

Caruso is now eligible to sign an extension with the Thunder worth up to $81,096,960 over four years. Prior to Saturday, his maximum extension would have been worth $48,875,400 over three years.

[RELATED: Players Eligible For In-Season Veteran Extensions In 2024/25]

Speaking to Jake Fischer of The Stein Line (Substack link), Caruso admitted he didn’t realized that Saturday was an important day related to his contract status, adding that he’s focused on helping the Thunder win games and compete for a title. But he did concede it “would be awesome” to sign a long-term deal to remain with the Western Conference’s top-seeded team.

“Obviously this is a place that I think is ascending and that’s something I want to be a part of,” Caruso told Fischer. “That’s why I’m here. I think the writing is on the wall. People don’t trade for guys in the last year of their contracts unless they expect to keep ’em for a while.

“That’s just the business part of it. So I’m looking forward to having that conversation with (Thunder general manager) Sam (Presti). Everything that the Thunder stand for are things that I stand for. I think their focus, their drives and desires, are the same as mine. It’s been a good fit and I’m looking forward to hopefully a couple more years.”

Caruso is earning $9.89MM in the final season of the four-year, $37MM contract he signed with the Bulls in 2021. He’s eligible to sign for up to 140% of this season’s estimated average salary ($12.93MM), which would work out to a first-year salary of $18,102,000, with subsequent annual raises of 8%.

It’s unclear if the Thunder are prepared to go up to that maximum extension amount in terms of both years and dollars, but Fischer says Caruso and his camp “would naturally welcome” that annual average value of roughly $20MM per year.

While the peak version of Caruso would probably be worth that sort of investment, he has gotten off to a slow start offensively during his first season with the Thunder, averaging 5.7 points per game with a .385/.270/.778 shooting line in his first 19 outings off the bench (20.2 MPG). The 30-year-old averaged 10.1 PPG on .468/.408/.760 shooting last season. Despite his struggles on the offensive end, he has been what OKC hoped for as a defender and a locker-room presence.

“He’s just all-team. He always has been,” head coach Mark Daigneault said, per Fischer. “He’s unbelievably present as a competitor. There’s never a time in the game where his feet aren’t on the ground and he’s not focused on the moment of the game and he’s also inside the team. I think over the course of a long game, a lot of possessions, over an 82-game season, that value compounds.”

If the two sides don’t reach an in-season extension agreement, Oklahoma City would hold Caruso’s Bird rights next summer, putting the team in the driver’s seat to re-sign him to a multiyear deal at that point.

Trade Rumors: Johnson, Thunder, Beal, Cavs

Versatile Nets forward Cameron Johnson has been the subject of trade interest from multiple contenders this season. According to Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer (video link), the Thunder are among the title hopefuls keeping an eye on Johnson.

“I have heard Cam Johnson potentially having interest from OKC,” Fischer said.

Across 26 contests for the chippy 11-16 Nets, the 28-year-old is averaging 19.2 points per game on a .489/.431/.874 shooting line (all career highs). He’s also chipping in 4.5 boards and 3.1 dimes per contest.

The Thunder are currently 22-5 on the year and occupy the No. 1 seed in a crowded Western Conference. Led by All-NBA point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Oklahoma City has emerged as a formidable two-way powerhouse. But OKC’s defeat against the Bucks in the NBA Cup championship game showed it could have potential playoff vulnerabilities, especially against bigger forwards, meaning the team could benefit from adding a player like Johnson.

Here are a few more recent trade rumors and notes:

  • Given that the Thunder have a bevy of future draft picks at their disposal to use in any potential deal, Kevin O’Connor of Yahoo Sports suggests it may be time for the club to part with some of those selections and cash them in for win-now help. O’Connor wonders if Oklahoma City forward Jalen Williams, the team’s primary shot creator next to Gilgeous-Alexander, is quite ready for prime-time after recording more field goal attempts (61) than points (56) in the three NBA Cup knockout round games. O’Connor advocates for the Thunder exploring additional shooting help, more bigs, and potential a microwave bench guard.
  • Suns guard Bradley Beal addressed recent trade speculation about his long-term fate in Phoenix, per Duane Rankin of The Arizona Republic. Beal has been floated as a natural fit for a deal to land Heat All-star wing Jimmy Butler with the team. “Until one of them come say something to me or talks to me, it’s just out there,” Beal said of the team’s front office decision makers. “I’m a Phoenix Sun and I’m here and I’m in the uniform. I don’t pay attention to that. They did that with me for 10 years.” Beal, 31, has a no-trade clause on his $50.2MM contract for this season. “Everybody is going to have an opinion about something. I think that kind of puts you in a negative head space. I don’t pay attention to it.”
  • Some opposing executives who have spoken to Cleveland.com’s Chris Fedor (subscription required) believe the Cavaliers are interested in making a 2-for-1 trade prior to this year’s deadline to consolidate their depth. The Cavs have gotten off to a league-best 24-4 start in 2024/25, thanks in large part to that depth, but the team is just now getting back Max Strus and may want to try to dip below the luxury tax threshold, Fedor observes.

And-Ones: MVP Race, Redick, Birch, Obst

Nikola Jokic has a commanding lead in ESPN’s first straw poll of the season on the MVP race, writes Tim Bontemps of ESPN. The Nuggets center captured 57 first-place votes among the 100 ballots, giving him 827 total points.

Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander came in second with 24 first-place votes and 678 points, followed by Bucks big man Giannis Antetokounmpo, who topped 19 ballots and has 643 points. Celtics forward Jayson Tatum (267 points) and Mavericks guard Luka Doncic (123) round out the top five.

A win by Jokic would give him four MVP trophies in five years and would put him in very select company, Bontemps notes. Only LeBron James and Bill Russell have collected the award four times in five seasons, while Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain are the other players to be named MVP at least four times.

Bontemps adds that Antetokoumpo had a significant surge in the poll after his dominant performance in the NBA Cup final. Twenty-nine voters changed their ballots after Tuesday’s game, giving him more than twice as many first-place votes and moving him much closer to Gilgeous-Alexander.

There’s more from around the basketball world:

  • J.J. Redick, who was a rising media star before being hired to coach the Lakers, weighed in on the NBA’s declining television ratings after Thursday’s game, according to Sam Amick and Jovan Buha of The Athletic. Redick doesn’t believe the league is being presented well by its national TV outlets. “We don’t have anybody that’s willing to step up to the fact that this is an awesome game and we should talk about it and celebrate it in a positive way,” he said. “That doesn’t mean we don’t critique it. We should critique it, but we should celebrate it. Nobody’s doing that, and the people that are have a small niche following on Twitter. And frankly, I would argue as well, that everyone in our ecosystem pays too much attention to what is said on Twitter. And part of this whole ratings discussion is because people on Twitter are talking about it.”
  • Khem Birch will remain with Fenerbahce for the rest of the season, relays Donatas Urbonas of BasketNews. In September, Birch signed a one-year contract with an exit clause that would have allowed the Turkish team to terminate the deal in January. Urbonas states that other EuroLeague teams had interest if the 32-year-old center had become a free agent again.
  • German sharpshooter Andreas Obst spoke about a potential three-point shootout with Stephen Curry and his interest in an NBA future in a BasketNews Film Session Episode. Obst says he heard that NBA executives were talking about him after he starred in the 2023 World Cup, but he never got a formal offer. “At some point, yeah, I could see myself in the NBA,” he said. “I can fill a role as a shooter. I know how to use my gravity to space the floor, spot up, and play off the ball. That’s something I think any NBA team could use.”