The John Wall situation in Houston is nothing like the problem the team dealt with a year ago when James Harden forced his way out of town, writes Kelly Iko of The Athletic. Whereas Harden had become frustrated with the organization and did all he could to be moved, Wall is comfortable in Houston and was viewed as a “valuable ally” to first-year head coach Stephen Silas last season, according to Iko.
Tim MacMahon of ESPN conveys a similar sentiment, writing that Wall’s relationship with team management and ownership is still strong, as all parties have remained in frequent contact throughout the offseason. Rockets sources told MacMahon that the club valued Wall’s leadership during the tumultuous Harden-related drama a year ago.
“(Wall’s) been a rock for us,” one source told ESPN. “He’s been great since he got here.”
Still, with Wall preferring the opportunity to compete for the playoffs and for a championship, and the Rockets focused on carving out enough playing time for all their young players, the two sides are no longer a great match, which is why they’ve mutually agreed to try to find Wall a new home. Rockets sources told MacMahon that the franchise wants to “do right” by its veteran players, as it did last season by sending Harden and P.J. Tucker to title contenders.
Here’s more on Wall and the Rockets:
- Sam Amick and David Aldridge of The Athletic take a closer look at which teams might be potential fits for Wall and whether his contract (worth $91.7MM over the next two years) will prevent Houston from finding a taker. Neither Amick nor Aldridge could identify any obvious trade partners.
- Yossi Gozlan of HoopsHype wonders if the Thunder might be the best fit for Wall, since they’re the only team that could realistically take on his $44MM+ salary without sending out a ton of salary in return. However, the Rockets reportedly don’t want to give up first-round picks to move Wall, and Oklahoma City would likely require significant draft capital to seriously consider a deal.
- In an Instagram video, Bobby Marks of ESPN runs through a few possible Wall suitors, explaining why it would be challenging for each of them to put together the $35MM+ in salaries needed to match Wall’s $44MM+ cap hit. As Marks points out, it will be even more difficult once the regular season begins and teams are only permitted to carry 15 players on standard contracts, since matching Wall’s salary may require a three- or four-for one structure, which would require Houston to waive multiple players.
Rocketls don’t want to give up a first round picks?
IMO
Trade value
Kevin Love + salary matching = Wall + 2 future Firsts
Salary matching means overpaid expiring contract
Wall value has been overrated by fans on this forum
Thing is Love is so bad at this point he’s even worse than Wall. The Cavs would have to include picks too….or send out Sexton. Essentially two trades in one;
Wall for Love/Osman
Tate/Martin/2 1sts for Sexton
Reading is hard. Guess you missed where the rockets said they won’t give away any assets to move him. Most likely outcome is he’s a leader on the bench mentoring the young kids and gets bought out next year. Read….. then comment really not hard to follow along
He won’t be playing at all. He won’t be on the bench mentoring the young kids. He will not be around. You seem to get one thing right “reading is hard.”
Oh i read it says “Rockets reportedly don’t want to give up first-round picks to move Wall”
Doesn’t say nothing about them not giving up picks for Sexton, which is what i’m suggesting.
I read that
Rockets focus on two things
1, trade Wall to title contender or playoffs team
2, don’t want to give up first round picks
I don’t see how Wall has been overrated here. Maybe I’ve been giving that impression. His value depends entirely on whether or not he can stay healthy next season, and of course for seasons to come. And being on a super-max contract makes it that much harder to match salaries in any trade, regardless of whether or not they need to attach one or more first round picks. Obviously if he was healthy right now like Simmons, trading him would be easier. Both situations have their own difficulties, so maybe the two can get together and work out a deal both teams can live with?
None of this situation makes any sense. Shutting him down predicates suiters thinking he is his old self so you dont want him getting injured. Last season he couldnt play the whole year, and put up empty stats on a bad team with terrible shooting percentages.
The only way to build value for a trade is for him to play and stay healthy and effective. Other than paying down a suitor or taking an equally toxic back, which there really arent many even out there besides Love. I dont see how this ends in anything but a buyout, and waiting till next year to do it seems pointless and stupid. The only other way is if HOU is trading for a player like Simmons with other assets and he is only there for salary matching. I doubt HOU is in the position to try to consolidate for current stars since they really dont have a ton of assets yet. I expect them to be looking to deal EG and CW for additional draft assets that more closely fit Greens timeline.
Agreed. The entire situation is asinine, and basically looks like just a full-year version of what OKC did with Horford on the back half of last season.
Showing other teams Wall can stay healthy by refusing to play him just screams “We don’t believe this guys can stay healthy” to the entire league.
Not sure who was bidding on Wall prior to this announcement but I doubt the number has risen in the last 24 hours.
Kinda hard to show he is healthy if he won’t be playing.
Even if Wall remained healthy (and that’s a big ‘if’) and even after factoring in Simmons shooting woes (to put it mildly), Simmons is by far the better player at this point of their careers. It is hard to see how they could work out a deal without Houston giving away something valuable (and Philly is in win-now mode, so probably wouldn’t be interested even if Houston added a couple of picks).
I can’t stomach Simmons and his pathetic attitude but Simmons is so much better than John wall(post Achilles) that this whole thread is preposterous, no team will trade for wall you simply can’t be given enough assets to take on 91 million in salary for a player whose worth the minimum, the rockets claiming not to want to attach assets is so Darryl money of them, delusional
No yeah it would be Wall and a ton of picks for Simmons. BS may have lost value but he is far from a JW bad contract. The problem is the 6ers want the Harden package, and HOU shouldnt be packaging for Simmons at this point in the rebuild at all.
@Sillivan
Cavs don’t need another PG since they have Garland and Rubio.
Why can’t the rockets be good this year?
If Jalen Green is dropping 30 bombs out the gate and Christian Wood stays relatively healthy,
they could def get the 10 seed.
I think Detroit could make a playoff push too…
One player can make all the difference in the NBA
He can help the mavs the most ! They need someone besides luka who can dribble and do something at all ! Brunson can dribble but can’t do anything with the dribble ! Wall is not very good anymore but he’s about equal to russ for whatever that is worth ! Russ that doesn’t chase pointless trouble doubles that is ! As a scorer driver and passer and lack of shooting they are equals
“It was a damp and chilly afternoon so I decided to put on my sweatshirt!”
“I would put exclamation points at the end of all of these sentences! On this one! And on that one!”
Are you shipping out KP? Otherwise no possible way to match salaries till you could deal Hardaway. No competitive team in the league has a contract they want to ditch thats big enough. Only teams that can work the finances are CLE, OKC, and maybe SAS. I dont see a single player on this list,link to spotrac.com, besides Love making more than 20M that a team would be like yeah we want to ship this dude out for what we saw of Wall last season, and his health risks.
No matter what they say ( negotiation ploy on both sides ) wall will get bought out by Christmas! He can’t afford to not play for another full season
March. Once they know nobody is taking that contract. Love only makes like 62M you would need to give picks to get that deal. If CLE is smart they play Love at least enough to prove he is healthy and not the junk we saw with team USA before he flamed out. If they play, and play well then the value goes up.
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@Noel
That wouldn’t be a good fit. Wall is not a shooter. He’s a slasher. He needs the ball in his hands. Luka is ball dominant. Not a fit at all.
I’m wondering if the Warriors and Rockets would be interested in a Wall for Wiggins?
I believe that Andrew Wiggins has to go. Too much money for what he provides which is nothing in the last 5 minutes of the game. He’ll get you 20 points in the first three quarters then you have to sit him down. He can’t be counted on in a playoff game and crunch time. He’ll miss a shot or commit a turnover Etc. Plus the Warriors have six guys they can play at the small forward spot and get it done. Jonathan kuminga Andre Iguodala Moses Moody Damion Lee Jordan Poole Klay Thompson Etc
Now the Warriors need another ball handler and someone with experience would be nice. Enter John Wall. But how do the salaries match up? Wall at 44 Wiggins at 31? If it was me I would do it.
But, Warriors would have to include James Wiseman for his 10 million and could be enticed to do so “IF” you exchange Looney for the two recent draft picks Sengun and Garuba? Looney 5 million and those two guys almost five million. Thoughts? Crazy, off base?
No, No, No, No.
This might be the fight time I agree with Silli.
Same
I had the exact same thought lmao.
Hopefully they can send Wall somewhere he can compete for a ring.
Wiggins scored similar numbers on far higher efficency last season, is a better fit positionally, is a much much better defender, has less health risks, AND COSTS LIKE 50M LESS WITH THE TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wiggins makes like 13M less than Wall.
Never in a million years is Wall coming to the GSW unless he is bought out. If that happens you can offer a little more than the vet min with the MLE the team still has.
Hook me up your weed guys number;)
Chapman, I wrote that it would be Wiggins, Wiseman and Looney for Wall and the two rookies Senguna and Garuba. Those salaries would match (I think.)
No weed necessary. Warriors have plenty of small forwards, they need a ball-handling guard.
So were losing our only C with real experience with our core, our only healthy wing, and the number 2 pick for two guys we passed on in the draft twice this year and an oft injured guy who hasnt shown he is healthy and productive in 3 plus years, is 6 years older than Wiggins, is a much worse fit for the roster, and costs more. You really hate Wiggins dont you buddy. That is way worse than Wiggins for Wall + like 3 picks from HOU. I would do the trash Wiseman/Wiggins/Kuminga/Moody/2 firsts for Simmons before I would touch your crazy HOU bends over GSW BS.
Even with that wouldn’t they be better off just waiting and hoping Beal becomes available at some point?
Or even doing nothing? Just seems like Wall is a substantially worse fit. I agree they could use another ball handler but I don’t think anyone believes A) Wall can stay healthy or B) he’s anywhere near as efficient as he was getting to the rim pre-injuries.
You’re spot on buttholesurfer69.., as usual. I think that’s the proper take on my suggestion.
Wall is not what the Warriors need in a often injured player. Wiggins stays healthy is one of his best assets. If Thompson is back they will not need Wiggins scoring. Kuminga can pick up the scoring too. It would be nice to get rid of Wiggins over pay but Wall is even more of a over pay.
If Kuminga is picking up the scoring in anything besides back to backs against cellar dwellers and garbage time I will be very pleased with him. If Kuminga is steadily in the rotation as an 18 year old it will be amazing .
Dude Wiggins is awesome at 18-22M per. He is overpaid, but he is also a good wing which the dubs need more of. They need less of redundant PG that cant do anything off the ball.
If Wall gets bought out he can play for a title leading the bench unit with Poole at SG.
arc89, I guess you’re right but it was just a thought on a comment forum. Be nice to have a former All-Star in wall and get rid of Wiggins. Plus two rookies could have potential. Just thinking out loud. But you’re probably right.. Wall would not be welcome with that injury history.
@Gary
Wiggins is a much better fit for GSW because like Wall he can drive to the basket and finish at the rim. Unlike Wall, he can also shoot the 3 which works well next to guys like Curry, Klay and a great passer like Dray. He doesn’t need the ball in his hand like Wall does. His FG% in the 4th with 3 minutes or less was 45% last year.
I like the stat you found but wow it’s just when I watch Andrew Wiggins check into the game I cringe. Maybe I’m not seeing things correctly going by all these comments vilifying my suggestion so okay. Thanks for finding that stat.
Train wreck of an organization, Rockets won’t be relevant for decades
Where’s the “train wreck?” They just had a solid draft and last season had two stars decide they want out. There’s nothing the Rockets could’ve done there. Seems you’re just talking crap to talk crap.
How plain can it be?— players want out once they get in a position to demand it.
Harden demanded and received everything he wanted. Once the relationship ran its course and his boy KD had a spot for him it was over. It wasn’t the Rockets fault. They did what they had to do. I think “train wreck” is a ridiculous claim for the team. They were a competitive team for over a decade. Teams don’t tend to stay great for that long.
The Rockets passed on several good young players in the Harden trade to roll the dice in the lottery with a bunch of late round picks. All because the owner wanted to go South of the tax line. Train wreck is appropriate.
If they traded for those players they more than likely lose out on their pick swap with OKC. Which obviously it worked bc they were able to pick up Green, who has more potential for a rebuilding team than anyone they’d have gotten in that deal. That’s ridiculous reasoning on your part.
Keep Morey and D’antoni and neither star wants to leave. Trade for CW anyways and convince your cheapskate owner to break the tax so you can run it back improved.
Les Alexander was never inclined to go over the tax either so I’m not using Tillman as that excuse. Trust me, I do not like Tillman bc I think he’s a pompous douche. But the organization isn’t a “train wreck.” It’s funny how much criticism both Morey and MDA have taken in their careers but then it’s “Keep Morey and D’Antoni.”
Morey is the most overrated GM in sports. He made one awesome trade, a few decent ones, and then nothing. He let his star walk all over him.
I don’t think Morey is generally rated very highly.
Some people here have such a short memory. Remember the warriors before they got a few top picks that turned into curry, klay and draymond? I’m talking the Marc Jackson team that had Monte Ellis. Okay garbage team that turned into one of the greatest teams in nba history only a few years later. Okay let’s talk about the 2018-2019 rockets. A lot of nba analysts agree if Chris Paul didn’t get injured they would’ve beat that same dynasty team in game 7 (shooting 0-27 from deep helped a lot too). The rockets failure started when they chose Westbrook over capella. Then morey tried to become a basketball god and run out midget ball which made Harden want out (even after they were the Houston hardens for 9 years). To think the rockets won’t return to a top 5 team in just a few years is pretty short sighted. They have 2 possible rookie of the years and after wall leaves they’ll have enough money for 2 max salary guys. You’re probably just another laker bandwagon fan who sees names like Carmelo and Dwight Howard and thinks “Oh boy we are going to win”. There’s about 5 teams with an actual chance to win the championship this year (Brooklyn, milwaukee, golden state, Utah, Denver) maybe a few other teams can get lucky (Miami, Boston, Dallas).
I don’t think they can ship Wall without taking any salary in return… And who is the second potential ROY, Sengun? That’s overly optimistic. In a few years anything can happen, but in terms of talent Houston currently is much closer to the bottom of the conference than to a top-5 team.
ESPN recently had an article of non top 10 picks who have a chance to win it and Sengun was rated number 1. He’s not a normal prospect he’s been playing with grown men in the Turkish league. I agree rockets are closer to the bottom teams in the league, but what team wouldn’t be in that position after losing their top 3 players (harden cp3/Westbrook capella). Tillman has been a very cheap owner who seems to only care about the money but there’s no denying the rockets had the best draft. If they hit on even 2 of the 4 picks plus 2 max contracts in the next 2 years they could easily be a top team. Again optimistic thinking I know but even now I don’t think you can call them the worst team in the NBA
Look it up: the Rockets are the worst.
link to basketball-reference.com
Uhh last year yes I’m talking this upcoming season. Again have your top 2 players leave and what team can sustain that? Go ahead I’ll wait
Do your own research. Not waiting, you won’t.
@Randy
Lay of that “tegrity” son. I’m not a Laker fan or LBJ fanboy but these are basically the same team that won it all 2 years ago with the addition of a hungry stallion in Westbrook and a super deep bench. Ppl site age but a guy like. Melo isn’t being asked to play 40 minutes. This team is smart, talented and hungry to disprove the naysayers. I wouldn’t be shocked if they win it all.
@mcdusty
Historically, their win/loss record of .524 ranks them 8th overall. They “only” have 2 chips but that’s more than 17 other teams. Harden bailed on them because he chocked. Sucks.
I don’t hate the Rockets I’m just matching Wallyworld’s energy
Clippers make the most sense
Eric Bledsloe, Luke Kennard and Ivan Zubac for John Wall and a second round pick or two.
Clippers then have Wall PG Kawhi Morris and Ibaka as the starting 5, with Jackson Mann Winslow and Batum off the bench.
With the trade they open up two roster spots to add depth but keep in mind they also have the likes of young Brandon Boston, Keon Johnson, Harry Giles and Isiah Hartinstein too.
They could add 2 of these players DeMarcus Cousins, Bismarck Biyambo, Isiah Thomas, Jeff Teague or Kennith Faried.
Nope. Wall plus more picks. Also in any of these 3 or 4 for 1 scenarios its the same problem with a Simmons trade that isnt 1 for 1 plus future picks. Most teams have already filled out the roster and nothing left on the FA market can replace contracts for player on real money deals you have to include since the back of the bench players dont earn enough to work for matching.
Clippers already have a solid 9 man rotation with this deal like I’ve said and they would be able to add another couple vets. Kennard wouldn’t be missed with Mann, Johnson and Boston all on the roster. Zubac would be the only missing piece and you can replace him with a big from the FA market.
Cousins was on the clippers and would be a good role player. Biyambo gives you 80% of what Zubac does. Faried could be a solid addition if you don’t want to bring back Cousins. And if you fear for Walls injuries, Jackson showed he capable as a starter and you can invest in a Teague or Thomas as a bench option.
There is still plenty of good options left in FA
The clips could be on the hook for the player option (yr2). And what if Wall gets hurt? That’s a ton of risk when the clips could move those guys in a more strategic play w less risk. If the Clippers punt next season take on Wall for 1 yr. he says won’t opt in, and they get good picks like a 1st then. But if you’re Wall, where else are you gonna make more than $45 mil next yr if you do a buyout. It comes down to how long can he play…
Leonard has the same risk of injury and they happily gave up so many first round picks for him and PG, who has has had a huge injury.
They also invested in Cousins coming back from an injury.
Wall showed last year when he plays he’s still got it. Over 20 points per game and 7 assists and a solid leader, on a good clippers team he probably has 18 points and 9 assists.
Plus Jackson and Mann are good back ups if he does go down injured. Plus with the open roster spots you could get Jeff Teague or Isiah Thomas, both former all stars, and still capable role players
There really isnt much on the market. Kawhi is probably a top 5 player when healthy Wall is not… Why trade pieces that work for a dude who may stay healthy but its iffy, and costs a fortune. Again HOU owes draft assets in the trade you proposed the clips dont value Wall that high.
Cause they are obviously competing and you make a trade if it gives you a better chance of winning.
Bledsloe last year had 12-3.5-4. He’s 6’1 and had more resounds than assists.
Wall had 20.5-7-3, coming off a huge injury. Pre injury he was 21-9-3.5, with a better team. So basically he put up the same numbers. It’s a big if but if Wall is healthy he gives you literally double Bledsoe’s production in the same amount of minutes.
Replace Zubac with a vet like Cousins, Biyambo or Faried, and get a back up incase Wall does get injured like Teague or Thomas. Then you have a better team.
Plus you said cost a fortune, but what your not realising is Bledsoe Kennard and Zubac = 39mil. Wall plus two veteran minimum contracts is about 47 mil.
That’s an 8 mil difference to have a better team and better chance of winning. It’s not like your trading Bledsloe 13mil deal for Walls 44mil and it’s costing you 31 mil.
This might make the most sense, if there’s a sensible trade for Wall.
But even then … giving up Zubac for might be too high a price for what Wall brings to the table.
Hard for me to see this ending in any way other than a buyout.
Yeah it’s a tough situation. Rockets played him and gave him some value but he is still so expensive and such a risk.
They don’t want to play him and risk injury or hurt his value they built up. However knowing they are in a rebuild want him off the books without hurting the locker room and without giving up picks.
Giving up Zubac to upgrade from Bledsloe to Wall to me is probably worth it. Bledsloe isn’t going to make you much better whereas Wall of it works out does make a good difference
Not sure it’s possible but it is in the NFL but you can restructure contracts mid season and pre season. With Wall being only 31 and owed about 90mil in fully guaranteed money
They could trade for him, give him a good chance of winning a ring and being apart of a good team. They could possibly try reconstruct his deal something like, 4 years 120mil.
Thus giving him an extra 30 mil in guaranteed money and a 2 year extension, but stretching his money out, for the benefit of the team and owner. In doing so it would lower the salary cap strain and luxury tax. Instead of 44 mil this year and 46 next it would be 30 this year and 30 next and then 30 again and 30 again. Saving the clippers roughly 15mil this season.
Perfect win win for the team and the player
Doesn’t work in the NBA my friend, contracts can’t be messed with… so still no solution for the conundrum!!!
Wall has on court value, it’s his contract that hurts his trade value.
Where you look at Simmons, he has potential value, his on court play hurts him.
Not wanting to give up draft picks basically means giving up one bad contract for another bad contract.
Porzingas comes to mind. love has zero value, his career is done.
He needs to be traded. Unfortunately, it’s gonna take a pick or two to get it done since he’d injury and prone and has a giant contract.
The Rockets do have a couple of extra picks they can send out.
They have 2 first rounders next year and also in 2023 as well.
So you’re saying they should give up future draft assets to get rid of Wall’s contract? This makes little sense, they should ride it out until he walks or the additional assets are less. Players aren’t lining up to sign with this unproven group so what do they really need the money for? Their window isn’t going to be in the lifetime of Wall’s contract. Giving up 1st round picks to get rid of his money would be a pointless move.
I dont get how Wall would impact minutes for their young guys. They could use his defense and playmaking around them to complement each other. If the argument is getting a couple of them minutes at the PG spot, they can still do that…
I think it’s strictly because the Rockets don’t want Wall to get hurt. Then they can’t trade him as opposed to right now it’s hard to trade him.
Nobody is trading for a dude who is not in game shape that also has health ?.
Chapman you’re in rare form today. Lots of agitated language and colorful Jabs in your replies above.
Your assessment is wrong. It’s definitely EASIER to trade a guy who’s “not in game shape” that it is to trade a guy who’s on the INJURED LIST. Now this is the Rockets thinking not mine, but you put Wall in NBA games, he’s going to get hurt and then you CAN’T trade him. Right now it’s just TOUGH to trade him.
I can’t believe I’m repeating myself for you but you don’t seem to understand the strategy of the Rockets here.
Ask a stupid question get a stupid response! Only way a player is in game shape is playing NBA games or so says almost every NBA WNBA player who has talked about it. NOBODY IS TRADING FOR HIM WITHOUT AT LEAST 2 PICKS INCLUDING AT LEAST 1 FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only way anyone would is if you see him healthy and producing even then his value is negative, just not unmovable negative.
He is to fragile to play, but please take him and his 44M from us without attaching picks……….. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ROFL on both u and HOU.
Why are you rolling on the ground and laughing when I think that’s what Houston has said the agenda is? You and all of us on here may not agree with it but I think that’s the initial plan here.
That plan will fail more than the deal for CP Westbrick. The team has lost every trade in the last 4 years. Also you can want what you want in HOU but ill believe that plan will work when me s*** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.
NBA fans have no idea what player values are to FO, and most cant even build trades that work within the rules. Then theres that most writers for fansided and all the other NBA sites also dont understand cap rules or matching. Or we get NBA analysis network where they publish articles every day with players nobody thinks are available, they just put things in the trade machine while proposing deals with below .0001% chance of happening.
Its hilarious when fans start running with some story either quoting sources who arent decision makers, or buy the line FO give. Everyone knows Love will get bought out, and everyone knows Wall will get bought out. If you cant find a deal for Kemba and have to buy him out Wall is definitely not being traded.
Wall can work out for teams; if injured cannot. A simple equation, not a trade speculation.
IT, Collison, Jarret Jack… teams have been working out less likely names.
All those caps, marks & emojis are good for supporting a deflection.
A player with zero trade value cant raise it unless he plays. Because of how onerous Walls contract is to making any deal work whatever on court value he has is completely negated by the negative dollars and difficulty to match since nobody is under the cap at this point, and no one has a TPE big enough either.
Bought out Wall is a great flyer for a team on a cheap deal, and if he is lucky he will play well enough before next season ends to get a real contract of some sort after rebuilding value. Its like Wiggins, in a vacuum they are both good NBA players, when healthy, but we dont live in a context neutral world, so in this world Wall makes 44M and should make as a FA like 5M with the ? so he has -39M in value, and also requires 44M in matching when most teams dont have 44M worth of contracts with -39M in value they are looking to unload. Attach a couple picks or buy him out. See how mutual it is when the trade deadline passes and he goes nowhere.
Wall has less than zero trade value.
But you’re making it harder than it is by assessing values. The OP was about which is quicker/easier. While it breaks unofficial rules to trade an injured player, there is no rule or policy or tradition against trading a sat player; mostly because the situation is rare. But I doubt that stops anyone that has salary to unload and could use an experienced PG and approves Wall’s character. Overpaid can be traded for overpaid; often is. But that may not happen, making your stance ultimately the right one.
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BTW The Cavs would not trade Love for another overpaid player; why?— when they like his presence around and are less sure about a Wall. A buyout is not a sure thing either. CLE & Love have already been down this road.
I don’t understand why they need to trade him. If the only way to get rid of him is to attach picks, then don’t trade him. Just stuff him at the end of the bench if you want to play the young guys. He signed, he’s getting paid. The Rockets don’t have to do anything here, especially if it will hurt the rebuild, which trading away picks would. They don’t need the cap space at the moment, so why do anything?
I think it’s more they want to be a good guy and help wall get to a team that has a chance to make the playoffs. They did it with tucker last year though wall hasn’t come out and said he’s unhappy like tucker did
Fck that Marsh, being a good guy is paying the contract
Agree w Rct; about everything, especially this year…they can maybe find a partner next year in expiring season for Wall . Rockets owe Wall nothing outside the 90+ mill
& you do realize that Wall doesn’t owe nothing to HOU apart of his professionalism, right?
Works both ways, but never forgetting the players not only run the show, as a matter of fact, they are the show!!!
He’s being paid 45 mill per year…yea he does owe Houston something
Clippers do make the most sense. We shall see what happens with wall.
Simmons for Wall
Teams are quietly waiting Wall buy out @ the next trade dead line no point to trade for him
Logically that’s the case but wow how much you’re going to pay John Wall to walk, he’s owed almost 100 million dollars? You’re gonna give him $80 to sit or walk? Rockets have stated that’s probably not the plan.., they won’t even include a first round pick in a trade at this point.
Nobody has traded for him yet. You dont think he has only just been made available do you? He has been on the block since the trade deadline last year, and nobody has bought. Want what you want it still aint happening. You defend an unrealistic statement from a FO then act shocked when people point out its a stupid position. We dont care what the HOU wants since they arent going to get what they want. If they cut him they could pay him down on this year fully and take any money he would give back on next year at least then you get some cap room next offseason to play with.
Guys making over 40m for not playing? WTF. Have we jumped the shark? I need a job like that
Acquiring Wall makes zero sense for the Thunder. They have Gilgeous-Alexander at point & then they drafted Giddey & Mann this year. Adding Wall takes playing time away from those young players.