As we previously relayed, when James Harden was asked whether he’d opt in to his $47.37MM player option for next season, he said, “I’ll be here.”
Following up on Harden’s statement, Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey confirmed that the team plans on having the former MVP on its roster going forward.
“That’s the plan, is to have him back,” Morey said, per ESPN’s Tim Bontemps. “That’s been the plan since the trade. Obviously, we have to work with his representation and that’ll be between us to figure out how that works.”
Morey added that improving the defense will be a focus in the offseason, while coach Doc Rivers said the team needs to improve its toughness.
“Well, I think it’s something that our players can grow,” Morey said of a lack of mental toughness being a common theme in exit interviews with players. “I mean, going through losses and how you respond to that and how you take it as your own look in the mirror. I think we all need to look in the mirror and say, ‘How can we each be better?’ … And that goes for myself as well.”
Here’s more from Philadelphia:
- In an appearance on “Get Up,” ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said, “Nobody in the NBA believes that the Sixers are going to give James Harden a max contract.” If Harden is willing to take a pay cut to improve the team’s financial flexibility, Windhorst points to Chris Paul‘s contract structure with the Suns as something that might work for both sides. Paul declined his $44MM player option last summer and signed a four-year, $120MM contract, but only $75MM is guaranteed.
- Matisse Thybulle, who was only partially vaccinated and thus ineligible to play in Toronto, was removed from the starting lineup for the postseason after starting 50 of 66 regular season games. Thybulle was asked at his exit interview whether he regretted his decision to not get fully vaccinated, with the hindsight that it impacted his performance and – by his own admission – his confidence. However, Thybulle said he was content with his choice and had no regrets, according to Kyle Neubeck of Philly Voice (Twitter link). Thybulle averaged 25.5 minutes per contest in the regular season, but just 15.2 during the playoffs.
- Joel Embiid was understandably frustrated that his otherwise-healthy season ended with injuries, writes Gina Mizell of The Philadelphia Inquirer. “I’m not looking for any excuses, but those are just the facts,” Embiid said of his orbital fracture and torn thumb ligament. “It [stinks]. I don’t think anybody would believe that I was 100%, so it does [stink] to get to this stage and not be yourself, not being able to do what you want and your body not allowing you to just be yourself … I would say [I should] try to make sure it doesn’t happen again, but those are freak injuries. If it happens, there’s nothing I can do about it.”
- Rivers’ comments about improving the team’s toughness were initiated by Embiid, who said the Sixers have “never had P.J. Tucker” during his tenure, a nod to Tucker’s hard-nosed defense and all-out effort. “[He] believes that he can get from Point A to Point B and he believes that no one can beat him,” Embiid said of Tucker, per Mizell. “They [Miami] have a few of those guys. … Since I’ve been here, I’d be lying if I said that we’ve had those type of guys. Nothing against what we have. It’s just the truth.”
31 thoughts on “Sixers Notes: Harden, Thybulle, Embiid, Toughness”
I’d trade Thybulle he such an offensive liability. We also need to get rid of Niang this dude if he isn’t hitting 3s he ain’t doing anything else. We definitely need to move on from Tobias!
Easier said than done. Niang and Thybulle make peanuts so replacing them with other guys that contribute and make less than 5 million is basically impossible.
Thybulle makes 4 million next year and Niang 3 million.
Thybulle at 4 million is probably in the 95th percentile of value per dollar in the whole NBA.
I like him
He is a 3 and D guy
Doc did not develop him
His value = 30th pick next Tuesday
Lakers need him but they have no assets
There is no way to have a mentally tough team with such a mentally weak coach at the helm who doesn’t inspire confidence with his rotations or decision-making and loves to make excuses for his own failures. If they keep Doc, they should expect more of the same next year.
Whatever, you can say what you want about Doc…bad rotations, bad timeout decisions but to say he’s mentally weak is quite the stretch.
Perhaps that wasn’t the best choice of words, but when you have a head coach who is clearly allergic to criticism and tends to always have an excuse for things that go wrong that’s not a reflection of a good leader.
This is the formula for next season
Doc Rivers + Harden = playoffs failure.
Will any team want to risk upsetting the millionaires by hiring a tough coach ? The jazz canned Coach Sloan for spoiled brats, do you really expect Steve Nash to throw down the law ?
Sixers had Butler and they pushed him out of town cause they didn’t like his toughness.
Now they are complaining they don’t have someone like Butler.
It’s so hard to get definitive answers. Prior to the end of game six, I was under the impression that Butler opted to leave the Sixers. He would have been preferable to Tobias Harris all along.
Thing is they didn’t push him out of town for Harris, whatever Butler wants to believe…they pushed him out for Simmons. Bad decision on their part but Harris does his job and doesn’t whine unlike Butler, Simmons or hate to say it Embiid.
“Toughness, eh?” thought Boylen, clutching his crumpled resume.
Maybe he would sell the house and move to Philly, surely Doc would see his strength of character and welcome him into the Sixers family.
He rummaged through the junk drawer for that business card he once got from Daryl Morey outside of an NBA draft press party.
As a Bulls fan, I pray for any team that EVER signs Boylen on as a coach. Dude was literally the WORST head coach EVER!!! He may be a decent assistant coach, but his ineptitude as a HC was overall cringeworthy!!
I think Paul Reed can be a guy like that for them. I dont think their roster was the issue these last couple of years at all. I think it’s the guy that is responsible for using that roster the way it’s supposed to be used, depending on what matchups they play. Maybe that means you have to move pieces you already had/have to get similar pieces the coach actually knows, but every time teams do that, it ends up subtracting depth, and just makes them look dumb/dumber, in my opinion
As to the look in the mirror comment, I dont think Doc Rivers is looking in the right mirror, or if he is, he thinks he sees someone a lot smarter, and better than he actually is, with no accountability on himself
Honestly, for years we heard Brett Brown was the problem, now we hear it is Doc. Maybe we can resurrect Red Auerbach and see if he can get this roster to the Finals. Or maybe The Process didn’t work, and transitioning quickly from player development to ‘win now’ was a mistake.
I said it was Doc before he was hired. This league is about matchups. If you have a coach that doesnt know who half the players on the team are, that is a problem, especially I’m the playoffs, where it becomes even more about matchups
PHI is now asking silly questions in their exit interviews, right?
I mean, why on earth should Thybulle have regrets about not taking the vax?
That he was underutilized in the playoffs was PHI’s lost not his, they needed more D & there he was in the bench, SMH!
James Harden is the most overrated player in the NBA. He easily gives up on plays any regular player in the league can make.
I tried to warn Philly fans about the choke job that was coming up for them once crunching hit in the playoffs…BUT NOOOO…
They wanted to spout off about his average scoring numbers per game, his counting stats, etc.. Well, he put up decent enough numbers again, yet are you all still going to defend him and say he didn’t choke again this time!?!
Same story, same player, just with a different team…Hey 76er fans, how is that MAX contract looking now, you all said would be such a good deal!?! …
I understand, as a fan, you like to get excited about new players, but when they.come with as many warts as Harden has, you should probably be wary…
I mean he did perform infinitely better than Simmons did in the regular season and the playoffs. Sooooo
I mean they could have gotten a better deal for Simmons and first round picks than Harden soooo
As we previously relayed, when James Harden was asked whether he’d opt in to his $47.37MM player option for next season, he said “I’ll be here.”
Following up on Harden’s statement, Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey said the team plans to have him back.
Well first of all, who else is going to want him
Second, this is the guy Morey wanted
Third, take Harden, Embiid, and Green to Lourdes for a dip, then bring them back and get them on a training and rehab regimen
Green, has to get surgery first and recover from that.
Still though, Harden needs to get into shape and lay off the kielbasa for awhile and then quit for good. Then find his inner Harden
Green’s career is likely over. Healing is harder at his age.
I can see Joel making some ultimatums to the front office this summer. If they’re tied to Harden because no one else wants him or the contract there is a very definite, very low ceiling. Trade request?
Chicago will gladly swap Vucevich for Embiid.
A team is all about chemistry. A contender has to have stars and solid pieces around them. Not easy with a salary cap. But teams always sign a bad contract. Then spend time trying to get rid of it.
Moreyon had the chance to move Ben at the draft. That was the move. This was one of deepest drafts ever. But the guy has a hard one for Harden. So all he did was wait him out. He knew with Kyrie situation. Nets would have issues. I’d bet he was in contact with Harden. And they waited this out. Which is illegal by the way.
Now we all see he is washed up. Sixers are fools to believe in Moreyon and his obsession. He signed a 5 yr 50 million contract. To bring Harden here and pay him 44 mill.
The Sixers analytics Suck worse than Moreyons……. what a disaster
The six-time All-Star missed seven games during the 2017-18 season with a strained hamstring.
“That was first time”
Since then it’s happened 4 more times. He’s never gotten over this. Cause he doesn’t take care of himself or his body. How can you have same injury for 5 YEARS. Why is it Moreyon analytics doesn’t tell him this.
link to google.com
Morey is now going to prioritize upgrading the defense? A couple of weeks ago he claimed that Embid should have been DPOY, and Thybulle should also be first team and would win DPOY in the next couple of years. Harris and Maxey aren’t a problem on that end. Who could it be and why is he on the team?
Doc, seriously, stop talking. Some questions, believe it or not, require a response other than it’s not my fault.
All I hear is Embiid blaming others on the team. He is not a leader. It is why he is not the MVP.
Joker is on a plane out of the country back to a farm after a 1st round exit. Kobe would be back in the gym day after winning a chip. Just saying. Jo will ba working on his game, Joker will be racing chariots.
Weaknesses are the bench and starting wing. So how can ‘we’ possibly upgrade both with no cap space and limited assets? If they trade Tobias they will not find a serviceable starter at PF that’s anywhere near his level so let’s just curb that idea for the moment.
Thybulle is the best trade chip and imho he should be traded, I’m not about to give 4/40 to Andre Roberson 2.0.
Back-up Center needs to be prioritized. Drummond, Whiteside, Boogie, or TT as a last option.
Back-up PG? I’m soured on Shake, idk if hell ever be the pre-Dec 2021 Shake. Hes just not the same player since covid and injuries. You have over the hill options like Rondo, Augustin, or Dragic or someone like Rubio coming off injury.
Wing? Green is done and Thybulle needs to go, so who can you realistically go after? Otto Porter Jr? Big question mark-guys are Ingles and Warren. Slo-mo Kyle Anderson? This is where they need to think about guaranteeing Danny Green and using his 10M + Furkans 5M + Thybulles 4.3M to make a trade to find an upgrade somewhere. Do you go for a slightly smaller lineup and trade for a guy like Brogdon or Bogdanovic? Larger lineup for a guy like Barnes or Marcus Morris? You’re basically punting on the draft picks you have remaining to try and get a chip with Jo.
Also, they need to seriously try to develop Springer, Bassey, and Reed. I’m done with Joe. Like if Jo is out, you start Reed or Bassey and they play 30+ and if you sit Harden or Maxey same thing for Springer.
Not going to be an easy offseason.