1:42 pm: The Kings view their Sabonis talks with Toronto as having “flat-lined,” according to Sam Amick of The Athletic. With the caveat that there’s still 24 hours for the situation to evolve, Amick says it now appears highly likely that the big man will remain in Sacramento through the trade deadline.
10:53 am: Talks between the Raptors and Kings have paused for now, according to Michael Scotto of HoopsHype (Twitter video link), who says Toronto has concerns about how much draft capital it would have to give up to move off of Poeltl’s contract.
10:02 am: The Raptors are known to have interest in Kings center Domantas Sabonis, but it’s been hard to get a feel for just how serious the talks between the two teams are, according to Michael Grange of Sportsnet.ca, who gets the sense that some of the Sabonis trade chatter has been driven by the three-time All-Star’s representatives, who would like to get their client off a rebuilding roster.
While Grange was still hearing from people close to the Kings on Tuesday that Sacramento would be open to making a trade centered around Sabonis and Raptors forward RJ Barrett, he writes that the connection between Barrett and Kings general manager Scott Perry – who drafted the forward as a member of the Knicks’ front office – has been “overblown.”
There also appear to be at least two obstacles in the way of a trade sending Sabonis to Toronto.
One, Chris Haynes said during an NBA TV appearance (Twitter video link), is a gap between the draft compensation the Kings are seeking as part of the return (a first-round pick) and what the Raptors are willing to offer in their package (second-rounders).
The other complication is that the Raptors would likely want to send out center Jakob Poeltl if they’re going to acquire a starting center who has an even more lucrative long-term contract, but Poeltl’s value is extremely limited due to the $100MM+ left on his deal, as well as his health — he has been dealing with back issues all season long.
The Kings reportedly have zero interest in acquiring Poeltl in a Sabonis deal, so the Raptors would have to find a third team willing to take him on and send that team sweeteners (likely draft assets) separate from what Sacramento would want for Sabonis.
“He’s a really hard guy to trade right now,” one source told Grange. “He’s hurt and he’s locked in for five years.”
According to Grange, the Celtics have been fans of Poeltl in the past, and the Pacers – who are searching for a long-term answer at center – are another team he has heard connected to Poeltl.
However, Boston just made a move for another center, agreeing to send Anfernee Simons to Chicago in a deal for Nikola Vucevic, and Jake Fischer of The Stein Line (Substack link) hears that Indiana hasn’t registered any interest in Poeltl.
The Grizzlies, with their newfound cap flexibility as a result of Tuesday’s Jaren Jackson Jr. trade, are considered one possible landing spot for Poeltl, but they’d likely need to be well compensated to take on his contract, especially given his current health situation.
“There’s nothing structural,” a source said of Poeltl’s back injury, per Grange. “There’s no nerve issue, it’s just a confusing injury.”
Sam Amick of The Athletic suggested earlier this week that it wouldn’t be a surprise if nothing happens with Sabonis this week and the Raptors and Kings renew their conversations in the offseason. Grange also thinks the Sabonis rumors “could all add up to nothing,” writing that Toronto may be better off hoping Poeltl gets healthy and can rebuild his value, either as a trade chip or the Raptors’ center of the future.

****TAKING THE PULSE OF THE HRC (Hoops Rumors Commenters)*****
One of the best sports weeks of the year is upon us, you guys – and the NBA’s got a seat at the table.
Let’s try get as many participants for this as possible. Ideally, test your luck with the entire list (tiebreakers go to those who guessed with more players), but a smaller portion is certainly welcomed.
From the list of players below, provide a YES if you think he will be traded by February 5th or a NO if you don’t think he will be traded by Feb. 5………
(1 point for each correct YES or NO)…..20 total options
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. Miles Bridges
3. Jimmy Butler III
4. Anthony Davis
5. DeMar DeRozan
6. Jerami Grant
7. REMOVE James Harden (OFF THE BOARD)……to CLE
8. Tyler Herro
9. REMOVE Jaren Jackson Jr. (OFF THE BOARD)…..to UTAH
10. LeBron James Sr.
11. Jonathan Kuminga
12. Ja Morant
13. Trey Murphy III
14. Michael Porter Jr.
15. Austin Reaves
16. Domantas Sabonis <—————
17. Klay Thompson
18. Karl Anthony Towns
19. *COBY WHITE* (new inclusion)
20. Andrew Wiggins
21. Zion Williamson
22. *DRAYMOND GREEN* (new inclusion)
bro is a legend
Thank you for the hard work on this
pogo increases it to NINE, you guys. So close to double-digit participants.
take anthony davis off the board, he is getting traded to the wizards
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. Yes
6. No
7. N/A
8. No
9. N/A
10. No
11. Yes
12. Yes
13. No
14. No
15. No
16. No
17. No
18. No
19. Yes
20. Yes
21. No
22. No
Add luvhoops and washington_bonercats.
AD was traded to wiz
kings should hold out for a 1st round pick for him. There is no reason not to hold out for a pick. RJ is a good player but more of a 3rd scorer on a good team. I can see other teams outbidding Raptors for Sabonis so why not send out a 1st round pick to the Kings in the deal.
14, 16, 19 are my only yes guesses from this list.
Raps are being stubborn.
Quickley, Mogbo and a 2027 first to kings.
Sabonis,McDermott and Eubanks to raps.
Grizz get Poetl and a late first.
Poetl’s contract is legitimately detrimental to any team that gets him. I have no idea who would take a him on even with a first attached.
Reports suggest that grizz or nets could take him on.
Sabonis would help GSW immensely.
Get it done, MDJ !
RJ Barrett is a guy that I would try to keep in Toronto. 19-9 with him in the lineup and 11-12 without him.
I would much rather see the Raptors trade for Sabonis over divas like Morant, AD or Giannis. I think the Raptors should target a guy like Goga for now, and evaluate the Poetl situation in the offseason.
If there is one Raptor that Bobby Webster should try and find a new home for, it’s IQ. I don’t believe he wants to be in Toronto. IQ never chose Toronto, he was traded here. Yes he signed an extension, but it was above market value and he would have been crazy to turn it down. Since signing that deal, his performance had been lackluster for the most part. Right up until his name started to appear heavily in the trade deadline rumors this year. All of a sudden, IQ’s game is taken to another level. He sets a career high by dropping 40 points in a game against GSW, he wins his first POTW award and it really feels like he’s showcasing for the league in hopes of being traded. He’s just not a diva like Harden or Giannis to come out and demand it.
First order of business should be trading the guys who don’t want to be here.
You don’t know anything about what you’ve said about Quickley. I don’t disagree that it might be better to move off of him, eventually, but the Raptors have no shooting. NONE. Gradey Dick cannot sniff an ‘above-the-break 3′, and the rest of the roster, besides Jamison Battle, are around 30% shooters. So IQ serves a purpose. If you add him to a deal, you would need to get a shooter back and the Raptors’ real need, right now, is a center. They’re a bad shooting team that is 4th in the East, so they’re unlikely to prioritize that, in my opinion.
Agreed. Raps should trade Quickley for Sabonis and a first(with Agbaji).
Sabonis is worth three pucks. Hang up the phone. Are the Kings this useless. Or is on your GM. If so then why. Sabonis is your biggest asset. Not even JJJ is better than him right NOW. No need to dump him. Raptors center sucks, he is soft. And Sabonis is not a center …..
Hawks need this guy badly
Kings need a point guard, Bulls need a centre and have a ton of guards …
Collins, White and Jones plus a bunch of seconds for Sabonis?
Bulls
Giddey Ivey PatWill Buzelis Sabonis
Ayo Simons Okoro Smith
Kings
White LaVine Hunter Murray Raynaud
Russ/Jones Monk Clifford Cardwell
Otherwise GSW…..
Butler, Kuminga and a first for Sabonis Monk and Carter
GSW
Curry Heild Moody Green Sabonis
Podz Monk Santos Horford Post
Kings
Russ LaVine Hunter Murray Raynaud
… DeRozan Clifford Kuminga Cardwell
Toronto have really handicapped themselves with some truly awful contracts. Quickley is a glorified 6th man making $32.5 mill the next 3 seasons. No team wants to take that. Poetl is arguably a bottom 10 center in the league making 23.5 mill on average the next 3 seasons. Heavy draft picks at this point will have to be included to get rid of any of those two players. I like R.J I think he could fetch a good player, but he makes nearly 20mill less that Sabonis. And getting Sabonis makes no sense with Poetl still on the team.
If this discussion is real, then either something is wrong with Sabonis or SAC needs to redo its FO again. I’m not Sabonis’ biggest fan, because he can create defensive issues. But, healthy, he’s certainly worth more than Barrett and a single TOR FRP.
Love to see the Bulls take a shot at Sabonis in the off season at least. He’s a young Vujevic and if the Bulls get Missi I think they can even play together at times. It would be sunny times for the Bulls. Hopefully the Bulls acquire enough assets to take a shot at it.
PG: Trae Young
SG: Tre Johnson
SF: Bilal Coulibaly
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Alex Sarr
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PG: Bub Carrington
SG: Kyshawn George
SF: Justin Champagne
PF: Will Riley
C: Tristan Vucevic
Over/Under 40.5 wins next year?
George to back up PF and Hardy to back up SG
LaMelo Ball for Sabonis straight up especially now they have White over there. Tre Mann as the back up they’d be solid and Ball is a much better player than RJ
This team is inbred