5:03 pm: The Bulls just put out a press release confirming they have waived Ivey for conduct detrimental to the team.
4:30 pm: The Bulls have waived Jaden Ivey, according to the official transaction log at NBA.com (hat tip to Jake Fischer of The Stein Line).
According to Shams Charania of ESPN (Twitter link), Chicago decided to release Ivey due to his recent “anti-LGBTQ comments amid several rants on religion and other topics.”
Ivey has made a string of recent “inflammatory comments” on Instagram Live over the last week, writes Joel Lorenzi of The Athletic. Monday’s comments about the NBA’s advocacy for the LGBTQ community was reportedly the final straw for the Bulls.
“The world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?” Ivey told viewers on Monday morning. “They proclaim Pride Month. And the NBA, they proclaim it. They show it to the world. They say, ‘Come join us for Pride Month, to celebrate unrighteousness.’ They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim it in the streets. Unrighteousness.”
Ivey has also been condemning those he thinks haven’t been “saved,” per Joe Cowley of The Chicago-Sun Times, who first reported that the team was working with the league “on an exit strategy” from the 24-year-old.
Ivey only made four appearances with the Bulls due to a left knee injury the team later called patellofemoral pain syndrome, also known as runner’s knee. He was shut down for the rest of the season last Thursday.
As Cowley notes, the former Purdue star made some unprompted comments that raised eyebrows around the league about two weeks after he was acquired from Detroit ahead of the February trade deadline. Ivey repeatedly referenced his faith at the time and declared that he doesn’t “really trust the NBA setting.”
Asked on February 19 if there were still health-related steps to take before he regains his former athleticism, Ivey replied, “I’m sure people can call it out — I’m not the same player I used to be,” he said. “(The knee soreness is) why. I’m not the J.I. I used to be. The old J.I. is dead. I’m alive in Christ no matter what the basketball setting is.”
According to ESPN, Ivey has talked in the past about battling depression.
The fifth overall pick in the 2022 draft, Ivey was having a career year for the Pistons in 2024/25, averaging 17.6 points and 4.0 assists per game with a .460/.409/.733 shooting line, before he suffered a broken fibula in his left leg that ended his season. His return in the fall was delayed after he underwent an arthroscopic procedure on his right knee.
Ivey lacked his previous explosiveness in 37 games for Detroit and Chicago this season, registering averages of 8.5 PPG and 1.8 APG on .445/.373/.809 shooting in a reduced role (18.1 MPG).
Ivey would have been on track for restricted free agency this summer if he had received a qualifying offer, but that will no longer be the case. He will be unrestricted in a couple days if he clears the waiver wire.
Whoa
Ok I didn’t know of any of the background and the story just read that Ivey had been waived. So I was a bit surprised but now there’s some extra context.
Should the Lakers take him now?
Jaden Ivey was selected as the 5th overall pick in the 2022 NBA Draft by the Detroit Pistons. He was drafted out of Purdue University
He has the same potential as Kuminga.
The Warriors should pick him up since he has the same injury Curry does.
That will never happen
They play in the gayest city in the world no chance that happens 🤣
Damn you that desperate huh??..smh the lakers are fine without Ivey and his “no-chill button” rants. Don’t focus on what he used to be pre-injury, focus on what he is as of right now..
No Ivey is completely washed up, D.Rose style. He probably wanted to get waived so he could feel like a martyr, not the sad injury hack he now is.
I hope he gets some mental health assistance, it seems that he’s been spiraling online recently. Best of luck to him.
He’s standing on his beliefs, so why does he need assistance with his mental health?
Because he equated LGBTQ inclusion with “unrighteousness.” No matter how much the tide is turning in the political environment against pride, it’s still gross and uncalled for.
@Memphis, he did have some other comments related to the injury that I saw video excerpts of and it did not seem, at least from that, that his mental state was great. He sounded very defeated about the injury. I honestly haven’t heard of read any of this recent stuff so I won’t comment on that
If your beliefs involve denigrating a group of people just trying to live their lives that in no way affect you, you might need some mental health assistance. Especially since I’m guessing his beliefs stem from the Christian faith which says love everyone, so the only explanation is his own bigotry, which he probably should get some help on.
Why do some people try to impose their beliefs on others? Just let others live free.
Amen.
@MemphisKidd: “He’s standing on his beliefs”
Why, though? No one asked him, no one challenged him or his beliefs. There is absolutely zero for him to gain by doing this. What does “standing on his beliefs” even mean?
“Standing on his beliefs, or standing on business” means trusting yourself in order to take care responsibilities. Not saying I agree with Ivey at all though. Crazy world we live in fr.
Hatred is not a belief but an emotion from evil. I never heard Jesus say anything bad about LBGT but it was going on during his times. there is teh problem people put their hate into religion to pretend God approves it.
TBF it was not a publicly prevalent lifestyle that Jesus would have had to address. In Ivey’s defense why should he have to promote a lifestyle that he disagrees with, just because the NBA wants to use its platform for their own equal but opposite agenda.
@philly If you read the bible almost everthing you do is against God and every sin counts the same. So if there was a banker’s night in the NBA would that be against his religion since loaning money for profit is a sin. how about all NBA players playing on Sunday?
TBH … historically there’s been a lot of records where it was quite prevalent across the world historically. Even during Jesus’ time. It’s only been within the past few centuries where it was viewed with such negativity.
@PhillyPhan69: “TBF it was not a publicly prevalent lifestyle that Jesus would have had to address”
This is the opposite of the the truth.
I don’t see how hate & evil are equal with goodness & fairness.
It was a well documented part of Roman culture. Jesus wasn’t an actual person he was a apocryphal part of a story invented in 400AD.
The league, being a business that cares about not turning away customers, wants to include everyone they can into their fanbase. Since Ivey gets paid millions of dollars for playing a game, it comes with some strings allowing the business to keep generating those dollars.
Saying that we support inclusion of all people as fans, and wont be bigoted about it, is not the opposite of having fundamentalist christian views that the vast majority of the country disagree with. LGBTQ blind bigotry is no longer ok in many parts of polite society, and many work places. There are even laws against bigotry that make it legally problematic if you try to prejudice your organization against an entire class of people.
What would Ivey’s end goal be? Does he not want the league to have pride nights anymore? Does he want the league to not allow LGBTQ fans entry? Does he want any employee of an NBA team that is LGBTQ fired? And we wonder why, when its highly statistically probable that there currently are gay men playing in the NBA, none have ever come out during their active career.
@PhillyPhan: Your argument, translated: “Why is Jaden Ivey facing consequences for public bigotry? So unfair!” Says a lot about your own beliefs.
You obviously have not read the Bible.
What time was that? There is literally no historical mention of Jesus in any records until hundreds of years after his supposed death. Not one contemporary document can be found documenting Jesus or any of his life story dating to its time, including the Romans who supposedly crucified him.
Just saying I dont pray to the tooth fairy either. Oh and Jesus’s resurrection story is cribbed from like 5 Mediterranean religious myths, from older religions in the region, that pre date the “time of jesus” by hundreds or thousands of years.
@Chapman Tacitus mentions Jesus in the first century, and most ancient scholars believe that Jesus did exist.
I’m not a Christian and I agree with the rest of your argument, but your claims about Jesus’ existence are factually incorrect and not supported by expert opinion.
The article says he has battled Depression in the past. He also says he doesn’t trust the “NBA setting”. Sounds like he has more things going on beneath the surface.
sadly religous fanatics prey on people with depression. He is probably being advised by some cult like leader that will control him. Hopefully his family will be in charge of his money so he doesn’t get grifted by a cult leader.
Because he’s saying crazy things.
I think he been spiraling since the injury, he was never the same and like most athletes with pro ambitions have no back up plan.
Other than the fact that he said if you are a sinner then God doesn’t hear your prayers, because we are all that and not perfect, I believe he’s got a backbone to stand on what he believes. Just saying. He shouldn’t be let go because of what he stands on, nor should he be canceled.
He wasn’t very good playing once he came back. No pro sports team is going to stand by a middling at best player and alienate possible fans. Jaden I’ve does not pull in more money or better the franchise while some Bulls fans are LGBTQ so business decision. If he was Ant Edward’s or Puka in the NFL level talent he would be fine. Maybe he can have some weird YouTube following for those that think like him and want to give him money.
@MemphisKidd: “He shouldn’t be let go because of what he stands on, nor should he be canceled”
Employers shouldn’t have to keep an employee that is affecting their bottom line negatively by being hateful.
Again, no one asked him what his beliefs are. Before this, no one cared. He has every right to believe whatever he wants in private, but once he brings it out in public, his employer has the right to do what they see fit. He’s not being “canceled”. The Bulls just decided he’s not worth the headache. And let’s be real: if he were playing well, they wouldn’t be doing this (Anthony Edwards, for example, has said far worse). So in a way, he played himself out of a job.
Religious psychosis is a real thing, and those experiencing it are a danger to themself and others. I get you have your personal beliefs, but they’re blinding you to the fact that JI is a kid that needs help. He doesn’t need strangers encouraging him to dig deeper and deeper into this hole. He needs psychological help.
All those people that show up in Jerusalem with the belief that they are Jesus resurrected is pretty sad, but also pretty funny.
Nah. No luck for him. He needs to just go away.
I hadn’t heard or seen his comments, but they couldn’t have been good. When your team is lottery bound, you get less leeway on what you say.
….Why are you commenting on something you haven’t heard or read?
So other people can point out their ignorance.
The Bulls will survive. It’s not like they have no G options around either to re sign or draft. You can’t really miss something you never really had. But Raz is right. Exactly what trade has AK made that worked out really? I mean Leonard Miller is looking up but does anyone have high hopes for Dillingham? I mean he’s a PG who can’t hang onto the ball. Sexton and Simons are what they have always been but might not be here anymore. Waiting until the last minute really worked out Huh? LMAO
“Exactly what trade has AK made that worked out really? ”
*Proceeds to mention a trade that worked out*
CHI Receives
-Rob Dillingham (#8 pick, 2.5 years of team control + RFA)
-Leonard Miller (2.5 years of team control)
-2x Second Round picks
MIN Receives
-Ayo Dosunmo (expiring contract)
-Julian Phillips (doing nothing in 3rd year, playing for the Iowa Wolves, will have 4th year Team Option declined)
Just going from Phillips to Miller was enough to make this a win.
I like Miller. But I loved Ayo. Dillingham’s feet and hands don’t work with his brain and he’s constantly out of control and has no noticeable basket smarts that I’ve noticed. Second round picks are dice rolls. Win? I don’t think you can say that with any certainty yet at all. Dillingham is undersized and plays no noticeable defense where Ayo was probably the best defender on the team. Don’t agree.
Ayo wasn’t going to re-sign with the Bulls so it doesn’t really matter how much you liked him. They have 6-7 years of team control on a 20-year-old.
AK’s sin was not trading him or White for First rounders in prior seasons. Getting Dillingham and 2nds in return is an acceptable return.
Getting Miller as a throw-in is icing.
You are wrong again. If the Bulls payed Ayo what anybody else was offering he would have re signed here. In fact you might eat those words because I put the odds at 50-50 he’ll come back anyway and the Bulls let Sexton and Simons walk and save that money. It won’t be much but every bit helps.
“You are wrong again. If the Bulls payed Ayo what anybody else was offering he would have re signed here.”
As a team (finally) about to embark on a rebuild, they were not going to offer more money or minutes to 26-year-old Ayo than what a contender would offer on the open market.
They are much better off with the 20-year old who will make half as much $.
“In fact you might eat those words because I put the odds at 50-50 he’ll come back anyway and the Bulls let Sexton and Simons walk and save that money. It won’t be much but every bit helps.”
The irony of you saying the Bulls will let Sexton (27) and Simons (26) walk just to bring back Ayo (26) for a rebuild. Let me guess, Coby White is coming back too? Move on.
I’m guessing this is how AK and Reinsdorf have been able to grift the Chicago populace for so long. Nostalgia for mediocrity.
So 26 is too old for a team to use for a rebuild? Hey look good players are good players and the Bulls need as many as they can get and they have money to spend for a change. Sexton and Simon are pretty much one dimensional and Ayo is 2 dimensional. I would gladly take him back and let the other 2 walk and save money. And that doesn’t make me crazy it makes me smart. Getting kind of worried about you though. I’m not sure we watch the same games. We sure don’t see the same things that’s for sure. LOL Have fun
He was restricted so he didnt really have a choice if CHI wanted him back.
Who Ayo? No he wasn’t. He would have been an UFA if they didn’t trade him just like he will be this off season for the Wolves. If you want him you gotta pay him.
No Ivey. The way the chats on the xRumors sites break down who is commenting on what is so Fing bad.
OK. Yeah but like Luke said in the chat it would have taken a 9 million dollar tender and 30 million dollar Cap hold for a broken player. Even if he didn’t shoot his mouth off I don’t see a scenario where he would be back unless he took way less money after the Bulls non tendered him. Now nobody will want him I bet. Donovan likes to run and a G with a bum knee doesn’t fit.
Great points Mike. But ain’t no point in trying to figure out why bulls management took so long to finally commit to tank. It is what it is at this point. They have options via the draft and free agency. So it’s up to management to finally build the roster correctly
At this point I just laugh, other than Giddey deal, what trade has worked in AK’s benefit?
They took a flyer on him. He was acquired for the expiring contract of Kevin Huerter. The trade was fine and exactly what they should have done.
It would’ve been a really good trade for the bulls except how could they have predicted that Ivey would do his Meyers Leonard impression
It would be a good thing to re sign Huerter back who kind of reminds me of Kyle Korver while Ivey apparently turned into Ron Artest or whatever it was he changed his name to. Sounds like we might be hearing from him again except it will be on Cops. Bulls have enough problems without that one.
Saying Kevin Huerter reminds you of Kyle Korver is like saying Jeremy Sochan reminds you of Dennis Rodman.
Huerter does a lot of things and is a handy guy to have around and you can move him around. Korver was probably a little better shooter but Huerter was at the beginning too. I think it was a pretty accurate comparison.
Korver was an elite shooting specialist, operating primarily off-ball.
Huerter is much more of a driver.
They have little in common besides being 6’7″ and white. Which is why he’s not playing for a Pistons team in desperate need of shooting.
Based on his game, he has more in common with Will Riley than he does Kyle Korver. Or a very poor man’s version of Brandon Miller.
They are both white and good 3 point shooters and play SG/SF and sochan looks a lot like Rodman even though they play like polar opposites
What can I say. They remind me of each other. They both give you great effort, Are great teammates and play a similar style. The only difference to me is if I need a guy to take the last shot I’d take Korver. If I need a guy to stop the other team from taking the last shot I’d take Huerter. Otherwise I don’t see a lot of difference.
The irony of this is Korver w/ Thibs Bulls was a better defensive player than Huerter as shown at any point of his career lol.
What can I say. We really don’t agree on much but it’s a nice chat. LOL
Rodman was a defensive ace. Sochan on the other hand has good instincts on defense but he’s nowhere near the level Rodman was..defensively and rebounding too
They both have multi-colored hair.
That was my point in this surface level comparison. One person sees a white guard and thinks they’re an elite off-ball shooter.
Off to europe
A lot of European countries have even less tolerance for hate speech than the USA so that might not be an option for him honestly
Im 100% sure he can play for one of the Russian teams…
@ ChapmansVacuum
You right! Russia is technically part of Europe..Hungary will let him in for sure lol, and based on the direction his beliefs are trending, that might be a better environment for him anyway; I’m gonna say Ivey sees his NBA career has already been over, and this is a chance for him to transition his following into religious fundamentalism?? The world is scary, and getting scarier by the day, and this guy has fallen victim hard imo
Dawg what
This is a case where someone doesn’t stand behind or endorse what his employer propagates. Most keep their mouth quiet and collect the check and do the best job they can.
Then there’s others who put their personal convictions before their employment and that’s the case we have here.
I think young impressionable men that happen to be millionaires are prime targets for religious manipulators and schemers. I believe someone swooped in when Ivey was vulnerable sometime during injury or recovery and has destroyed his belief in himself and his benevolence to marginalized groups within society. He’s not the first, and it’s very sad to see. I’m not excusing his message, though I don’t think he came to these conclusions and declarations all on his own. I understand compassion toward those people in which he denigrates with his words, and an absence of that same compassion towards Ivey when he says hurtful and ignorant things.
But before you respond with what punishment you think he deserves, try and have the nuance and understanding for his possible mental health deterioration and/or manipulation, and by having the understanding and compassion for Ivey, the exact compassion and understanding that Ivey lacked in this moment or possibly his greater life, you will be living the morals and setting the proper example of how to treat people, instead of committing to him the same mistreatment that Ivey himself has done to others.
His mother is the coach of Notre Dame, he didn’t discover religion in his 20s once he had money.
He literally says Catholics aren’t righteous
Great comment.
Look in the end it all boils down to money. The facts are like Luke said in the chat that Ivey would have cost the Bulls over 9 million to tender and a 30 million dollar cap hold for a player who is basically a shell of his former self. He’s not gonna play the rest of the year and needs a lot of rehab or more surgery to fix his problem so they just cut bait now. Quibble all you want about the reason and use this one if you like but the facts are the Bulls are loaded with decisions to make on Guards, have better options and decided to walk away now. If this Social Media Meltdown had anything to do it I’d be surprised. Not to mention that if the Bulls end up in the draft around 9 where they’re at now without ping pong ball help and they take the best player available it’s more than likely another G. So that’s not even worth thinking about for a 30 million dollar cap hold.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence, unfortunately.
I would argue that it is “fortunately”. Actions having consequences is a good thing.
I meant it’s unfortunate for him losing his job not that we shouldn’t have consequences.
Gotcha, sorry. Misunderstood your point!
No worries man thanks for questioning me so I had to clarify!
Exercising our rights is fun ain’t it! Lol
True, calling people unrighteous for their sexual identity doesn’t sound like someone who promotes freedom lol
Sheep aren’t usually aware that they are indeed sheep.
It means the gov cant restrict speech. When will all these first amendment crusaders realize that private companies can restrict whatever speech they want. Its only from gov overreach that you get legal protection.
So you dont like that if you publicly act like an @sshole there are consequences? If your a famous person putting out a broad exposure social media post is like a personal press release. Shocking that you cant just put stuff out there for millions of people to see, and not expect a response from those millions of people.
He’s a FA. So all they did was speed up the process.
His injury should not have been a problem. Yet it’s been nothing but problems. Ivey better get his act together. He had or has real talent. You going to throw it all away. Yeah you can search it. He’s posted some weird shhh. Seems like he has too much time on his hands. NBA should help him if its clinical.
link to nationaltoday.com
I had Ivey pegged as the #54 Shooting Guard in the NBA.
The knee injury robbed him of his finishing & creation potential, but he was still a good shooter off the dribble. He still had potential to be a younger version of Jordan Clarkson.
He was certainly looking at offers above the minimum given his age/potential. Now he might have blackballed himself. No team was willing to sign the far superior Malik Beasley this offseason.
Everyone reading this has a real job and knows they can’t post whatever they want on social media. He’ll be right there with us soon lol. Hope his beliefs were worth the tens of millions of dollars he just fumbled.
You guys thought Cam Thomas was unemployable? Ivey just said hold my chalice.
I don’t have a real job, but I still don’t spew hate on social media
Jaden Ivey in his Instagram comments:
“Catholicism is a false religion. And is not the true Doctrine of Christ. [It] does not lead to salvation in Jesus Christ.”
“You don’t judge righteously because you yourself are not righteous. You clearly have a speck in your eye, so you [can’t] get a speck out of someone else’s eye.”
“God does not hear your Prayer if you are a sinner.”
“Y’all don’t take the word of God seriously,” Ivey said. “… The Lord is not going to say on Judgment Day, ‘What’s the updated score? What’s the score of Purdue Boilermakers? What’s the score of the Detroit Pistons? Jesus is not going to say that on Judgment Day. He’s going to say, ‘What did you do for my kingdom?’”
Just another narcissistic zealot. Hope he enjoys his second career as a niche podcaster.
He needs to brush up on his Christian theology.
Find me someone who is Christian, and not crazy, who thinks God doesn’t listen to the prayers of sinners. Because that just means God doesn’t listen to prayers at all.
The vast majority of fundamentalists in America are pretty bad christians… Most very selectively pull things from the bible, or that arent mentioned at all, and fixate on those few parts relevant to their story, while tacitly ignoring all the teachings of the bible that are inconvenient, or fundamentally violate every day.
So hating on LGBT *and* Catholics? A real banner day for him.
I don’t know, I kinda feel bad for him. Does his opinion objective suck and is worthy of criticism? Sure.
But he’s obviously in a weird/bad place right now and spiraling with increasingly extreme religious rhetoric (not that there’s anything wrong with fundamental religious beliefs). I hope he gets the help he clearly needs and ends up happier and healthier for it.
Or maybe he’s always been this way and it’s just now bubbling to the surface for whatever reason. Who knows? Regardless, hopefully he’ll one day see the light.
I feel bad for him, too, but not because of his religious beliefs or his decision to express himself publicly. I am sorry that he wasted an educational opportunity at an excellent university. It’s very clear that he doesn’t command the language, has difficulty expressing complex ideas, and substitutes dogma for thought. He’s not the first and certainly won’t be the last athlete who decided to ignore the “college” part of college sports.
The secular dogma at universities is still dogma
Well that’s one way to cost yourself millions of dollars.
And to get off this Bulls roster. Somebody will give him a chance, I feel. Young and talented enough. Seattle, Vagas.
Yo, Jaden, get off social media, hey. Catholicism is quite big in Europe too, is it not?
Lmao You know the Seattle community embraces the opposite of his beliefs right? He already killed his chance on a team not even back.
No and so. He’ll get another gig in the league one day. I don’t care about anybody else’s beliefs, lifestyle, political views and prosperity. Got nothing to do with me. Whatever makes them happy, cool, whatevs. Just words at the end of the day, you don’t have to take them in. Guys have done far worse and been given another chance.
Business care is the point.
People thought Meyers Leonard and Josh Primo would get more chances. Leagues are not putting their necks out for below average players.
Primo is a good example. Dude basically had to retire from basketball at the age of 21.
Clips gave Primo a chance, and he didn’t take it. He stunk it up.
Meyers Leonard was out of the league for two years He also had to APOLOGIZE and put in work with the Jewish community and show authentic remorse for his actions.
Fat chance of Ivey doing any of that. These guys double down and never admit when they’re wrong. Anyone who disagrees with me is a “sinner” LOL.
Should have thought about all this when an NBA career was his dream growing up. The irony of crying about the NBA’s views however many millions of dollars later. Just another selfish “saint”.
Yes they have. But the juice needs to be worth the squeeze.
Miles Bridges and Kevin Porter Jr suffered significant financial penalty and missed entire seasons because of their actions. Both are also starting level players.
Ivey is not at their level and is closer to an injury prone project / developmental guy. When you’re replacement level, you’ll find out how replaceable you really are when you act out.
Ivey was coming on big time before the injury. I’m sure he was starting at that point.
Starter or not, Bridges is a piece of sh*t.
I’m not sure Porter Jr. is a starting level player, and that should never come into the equation anyway. Porter Jr. is a good comparison for what Ivey needs to do now, though.
Emphasis on before the injury. He was not a starter this year.
His elite speed/quickness is gone and if you watch his dunks he is a two-foot dunker now. He needs time to load up (i.e. uncontested dumpoffs, never on drives).
Mainly still able to do it because he has a 6’10” wingspan. But he would need to significantly alter his game to be a difference maker. He can’t be Jordan Poole or Anfernee Simons. He needs to become Jrue Holiday type (one of the highest IQ / character guys of his generation), which is probably asking a bit much if the last day/week/month/year has shown us anything about his makeup.
How good you are at basketball should never be a factor in how big of a douche you can be.
Porter Jr was only suspended for 4 games, he was cut by the Thunder and missed that entire season, but I think he got paid. can’t find a reference anywhere to him losing that years salary. NBA just swept that under the rug, just like when bridges had his second encounter with DV, throwing billiard balls at his ex’s car with his kids inside, allegedly of course.
I don’t know nrg82, I think he just blackball himself in a serious way.
No team will sign him after this. His injury doesn’t help matters.
What? I bet there is a team in Rome or Madrid that a contract just waiting for him. LOL
Vegas and Seattle won’t be a thing till 2028
He’s probably going through some kind of depressive state. It’s quite relatable to, if not only, his injury, his prime pre injury form, and his struggling post injury form. Besides some other base things we may not know. I think he needs to be contained and talked to, and not be left alone.
Other players that have been out of the league for social media behavior: Kai Jones.
Kai Jones did not attack any people, only posted he thought he was better than his teammates, and was waived. He has the talent to be an NBA player. He shoots 95% from the field in tbe Euroleague (look up), and over a block in 15 minutes per game. I would think those kind of things don’t do them a favor, and I don’t think it is right that they pay this price for that.
Royce White was an advocate from his first day (which was a confronting posture), he spoke up. He still voices what he thinks.
They shouldn’t leave players alone. The road to the NBA is really tough, nice, but tough, and some may need help to cope with difficulties. An athlete is not exempt from mental health issues, money by itself doesn’t cure them, and social media posts sometimes have to be ready between the lines, even though that doesn’t justify at all any hate speech, previous remarks tend to show Ivey has been in a down mood after injury.
What did Miles Bridges do again? Just saying.
This is why politics and religion don’t mix with sport in my opinion.
Better players get exemptions this has always been known.
Chapman take a break. Love you bro, but you’re crossing a couple of lines. Take a rest.
Bridges has no business being in the league. Just because Charlotte is spineless doesn’t change that.
It’s a two way street really
He’s allowed to have his opinions and do what’s best for him
Bulls are allowed to do what’s best for the organization
I agree. Jaden Ivey shouldn’t be forced to promote stuff he fundamentally disagrees with such as LGTBQ life styles. Like if he doesn’t want to play on pride nights due to religious convictions sure he should be allowed to sit
But bulls can opt to not pay him for that game which is their right as well
Currently sounds like Iveys choosing his religion over basketball which is fine but again Bulls can choose customers clients over a player and that’s their right.
This is the same Bulls who signed Josh Prima lols. Was only to get his rights for Windy City in the G League, but still. The Irony.
I think Jaden Ivey just painted himself into a corner like Mark Jackson did and is now out of the league permanently.
At least he’s made some millions already. Hopefully he’s managed his money carefully to this point.
Oh wow; step away from the Kool Aid young man; Is acknowledging that LGBTQ people deserve validation, respect and rights really a bridge JI can’t cross? Get some help young man, but I’m worried we’ll be hearing about him more as a cult leader than an nba prospect moving forward
If that were the only thing he said it would be one thing, but based on other comments he’s made recently it’s clear he’s in pretty deep right now. And it’s gonna take time and effort to undo all of that, if and when he’s even willing to cross that bridge.
Oh yeah, he’s spiraling; and hopefully his mom can get in his ear, maybe straighten it out but that might not happen since he’s apparently targeting Catholicism as fake Christians while his mom is the women’s HC at THE Catholic university (at least athleticly)..and he said that MJ Curry and Bron were bad Christians or whatever; what a move but he deserves our prayers cause he needs them..and don’t forget Billy Donovan too lmao
God did – DJ Khaled
But he didn’t say the world is flat and 4000 years old
Freedom of speech is conduct detrimental to the team. Career before faith. No constitutional rights. Take away your roght to speak and defend yourself. Call a segment of the population unrighteous and lose your job.
Freedom of speech ≠ freedom from consequences.
I’m guessing the only problem YOU have his with him being cut for being anti-LGBTQ. You probably conveniently ignored his anti-Catholic statements because they don’t fit your narrative.
Freedom of speech has literally nothing to do with this. Why does this need to be explained to people over and over? The first amendment protects you from the government. That’s it. This situation has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
1st amendment protects you from the gov restricting your speech. Is the NBA a part of the federal gov? *drops mic*
When will guys learn to just keep their mouths shut during their playing career?
Regardless of what Ivey believes, he knows what he said was going to get him the hoof right out of Chicago, and possibly the league. Should people be able to speak freely? Sure, but when you’re in the public eye like an NBA player is, there’s too much to risk while you’re still in the league to say controversial things.
Keep quiet, put your head down, have a good career, and then say what you want to.
“Shut up and dribble”
Shut up and dribble means something totally different. It definitely doesn’t apply to the comment above.
“ Keep quiet, put your head down, have a good career,
“Shut up and dribble”
Keep Quiet/Head Down = Shut Up
Have a good career = focus on basketball = dribble
Just cause you say it nicer doesn’t mean you’re saying something different
“Shut up and dribble” is a phrase used to tell professional athletes, particularly those in the NBA, to refrain from discussing politics or social issues and focus solely on their sport
Fair enough
dang rooting for him. kinda sounds like a jackass. reminds me of a quote “righteousness has replaced love in your religion”
Mans really fumbled the bag. He must not have grown up too hard.
Would rather have Ivey in the league than the wife beater down in Charlotte just saying
Are those the only two options? How about neither?
I guess he doesn’t really want to play for the Bulls after all.
Going to play devil’s advocate for a sec (pun not intended): Jameis Winston often expresses very similar “preachy” sentiments and alludes to his Christianity in interviews, team meetings, and media appearances. It seems like he gets a far more favorable reaction on social media since he’s “funny” or “memeable”, and he’s obviously been able to carve out a steady career as a backup QB for awhile now. Isn’t this a bit of a double standard for the sports industry to hold? Is the difference with Ivey just that he isn’t as charismatic and specifically called out Catholics and the LGBTQIA community by name?
I don’t think so. Just look at the latest Ivey thread. It’s clear he was pushing his beliefs anywhere and everywhere he could (due to spiraling), even in situations it was not appropriate to do so. I don’t know much about Winston’s beliefs, but I can’t imagine anyone else being that bad. And why hold onto an expiring contract of an injured player acting this way?
That said, yeah, those specific callouts certainly did not help. But it seemed like the Bulls were already tired of him.
Jonathan Isaac said very close to the sane thing a few years ago. He is also been part of helping Kevin Durant with his faith.
Did he? I thought he was just latched onto by the right over the national anthem stuff. Don’t remember him saying anything too crazy. If anything, the thoughts he expressed on that particular topic made a lot of sense.
It’s not faith. It’s hate. They think it’s faith but it’s politics and hate. Nothing more.
Atlanta sign Ivey, Thomas and Wiseman to rehab for next year
I called it.
Bulls should have played him, and then everyone could see how washed up he was. Then cut him.
Humiliate him. It’s what he deserves.