Timberwolves To Waive Bryn Forbes
The Timberwolves are waiving guard Bryn Forbes, Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic tweets.
Minnesota needed to open up a roster spot to complete the agreed-upon three-team trade with the Lakers and Jazz. The Timberwolves are trading D’Angelo Russell to Los Angeles and bringing in guards Mike Conley and Nickeil Alexander-Walker,
Forbes was on a one-year, veteran’s minimum contract, so waiving him will not have any implications beyond this season.
The 29-year-old hadn’t seen much playing time with Minnesota. He appeared in 24 games off the bench, averaging 3.3 points in 10.6 minutes. Forbes appeared in a combined 75 regular season games with San Antonio and Denver last season.
A career 40.9 percent 3-point shooter, Forbes could be an interesting option for a contender looking for bench help once he clears waivers.
Russell Westbrook Has Interest In Clippers, Heat
Once he’s officially traded to the Jazz in the three-team deal that also involves the Lakers and Timberwolves, Russell Westbrook is expected to be bought out. Since his cap hit is far too sizable to make a waiver claim realistic, that means he’ll hit free agency and have the ability to sign with any team (except the Lakers).
If and when that happens, Westbrook would have interest in joining the Clippers or the Heat, a league source tells Law Murray of The Athletic.
The Clippers were said on Wednesday to have interest in Westbrook, so there could be a fit there depending on what Los Angeles does with its point guard spot at today’s trade deadline.
As for the Heat, their level of interest in signing Westbrook is unclear. Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald (Twitter link) notes that Westbrook’s subpar outside shooting wouldn’t mesh well with the current group, while Ira Winderman of The South Florida Sun Sentinel (Twitter link) says the former MVP would be a “very big personality” to add to the mix during the season.
According to Winderman, the Heat’s level of interest in Westbrook may hinge on what happens with Kyle Lowry — Miami’s veteran point guard is a candidate to be moved today and is dealing with a nagging knee injury.
While three-point shooting (29.6%) and turnovers (3.5 per game) continued to be an issue for Westbrook this season in Los Angeles, he’s still a talented scorer and play-maker, with the ability to get into the paint. He averaged 15.9 PPG, 7.5 APG, and 6.2 RPG in 52 gams (28.7 MPG) as the Lakers’ sixth man.
Bulls, Knicks Discussing Zach LaVine Deal
The Bulls and Knicks are discussing a deal involving high-scoring wing Zach LaVine, Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports (Twitter link).
The two parties have been talking but they temporarily broke off those negotiations on Wednesday. They’re now actively discussing a potential LaVine trade once again, Cowley adds.
While multiple reports in recent weeks have indicated the Bulls are unlikely to move one of their core pieces at the deadline, it sounds like they haven’t ruled out that possibility.
There has been an internal debate within the Knicks organization about whether to include Immanuel Quickley in any trade discussions, according to Matt Moore of Action Network. The Knicks have also been linked to Raptors forward OG Anunoby, so the revived discussions with the Bulls could signal New York is willing to deal Quickley.
LaVine, who is averaging 23.6 points per game, is in the first year of a five-year, maximum-salary contract worth approximately $215MM.
The Knicks have already agreed to acquire Josh Hart from Portland but they could include any number of players, including Quickley, to make a LaVine trade a reality. RJ Barrett and/or Obi Toppin might also be logical trade pieces if the Knicks decide to make a blockbuster move.
Trade Rumors: Bey, Wiseman, Bridges, Toppin, LeVert, Gordon, More
The Pistons and Warriors have engaged in discussions about a possible trade that would involve forward Saddiq Bey and center James Wiseman, reports Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).
According to Fischer, Golden State has shown an increased willingness to move Wiseman and Detroit has interest in the former No. 2 overall pick — he was atop the Pistons’ draft board in 2020, notes Omari Sankofa II of The Detroit Free Press (Twitter link).
Still, both Sankofa and James L. Edwards III of The Athletic (Twitter links) say that no deal appears imminent between the Warriors and Pistons, so the talks may not ultimately bear fruit. According to Fischer (Twitter link), Golden State may be weighing an offer from Detroit against other trade opportunities.
Here are a few more trade rumors from around the NBA, with the deadline less than two hours away:
- According to Kelly Iko of The Athletic (Twitter link), the Rockets are among the teams that have kicked the tires on Mikal Bridges and Cameron Johnson, who are headed to the Nets as part of the Kevin Durant trade. However, Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link) has heard that Brooklyn intends to hang onto Bridges through Thursday’s trade deadline.
- The Pacers are among the teams to register interest for Knicks forward Obi Toppin, while the Kings are among the teams to have inquired about point guard Derrick Rose, says Ian Begley of SNY.tv. The asking price for Toppin is substantial, according to Begley.
- The Cavaliers have informed veteran wing Caris LeVert that he won’t be traded before Thursday’s deadline, according to Matt Moore of Action Network.
- Moore also reports that the Pelicans, Grizzlies, and Knicks have made offers for Raptors forward OG Anunoby that include multiple draft picks. There has been internal debate within the Knicks organization about whether to include Immanuel Quickley in any trade offers, including for Anunoby, Moore writes.
- Both Brian Smith and Jonathan Feigen of The Houston Chronicle (Twitter links) have heard rumblings about the increasing likelihood that Rockets shooting guard Eric Gordon will be on the move today. Moore reported that there’s skepticism around the league about Houston’s ability to get a first-round pick for Gordon.
Raptors Acquire Jakob Poeltl From Spurs
FEBRUARY 9: The trade is now official, the Raptors have announced in a press release.
FEBRUARY 8: The Spurs have agreed to trade center Jakob Poeltl to the Raptors in exchange for Khem Birch and draft assets, tweets ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.
Sources tell Wojnarowski that San Antonio will receive the Raptors’ protected first-rounder in 2024, along with two future second-round picks. According to Michael Scotto of HoopsHype, the 2024 first-rounder will be top-six protected through 2026, while the second-rounders will be Toronto’s own in 2023 and 2025.
The ninth overall pick in the 2016 draft, Poeltl began his career in Toronto before being included in the blockbuster deal that sent Kawhi Leonard to the Raptors during the 2018 offseason.
He has spent the last four-and-a-half seasons in San Antonio and has steadily grown into a more well-rounded big man during that time, showing the ability to protect the rim on defense and to be a solid screen-setter and complementary scorer on offense.
Poeltl has played his best basketball since the start of the 2021/22 season, averaging 12.9 points, 9.2 rebounds, 2.9 assists, and 1.5 blocks per night in 113 games (27.8 MPG) during that stretch.
The center’s strong play made him a popular trade candidate this season for the Spurs, who are in the midst of a rebuild and are very much lottery-bound — their record dropped to 14-41 on Wednesday as a loss in Toronto extended their current losing streak to 10 games.
San Antonio was said to be seeking a pair of first-round picks for Poeltl, but will have to settle for a single first-rounder and two seconds for the 27-year-old, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer after earning $9.4MM this season and is considered likely to warrant a commitment in the range of $15-20MM per year.
According to Wojnarowski (via Twitter), the Raptors – who have been in the market for a reliable center since the departures of Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka in 2020 – intend to sign Poeltl to a new contract this summer. They’ll control his Bird rights, giving them the ability to offer him any amount up to the maximum without any cap restrictions.
It’s a fascinating move for a Raptors team that has been widely considered a probable seller leading up to Thursday’s trade deadline, with veterans like Fred VanVleet, Gary Trent Jr., and OG Anunoby frequently mentioned in trade rumors.
Previous reports had indicated that Toronto was generating some confusion among rival teams who were trying to figure out the club’s path at the deadline, and there was a sense that Masai Ujiri and his front office wouldn’t completely hit the reset button on the current roster.
More trades could come, since VanVleet and Trent can reach free agency this summer and the Raptors still have a glut of wings, but for now, they’ve at least addressed their hole at center and don’t appear prepared to throw in the towel on this season.
As for the Spurs, they continue to stockpile future first-round picks after acquiring a few last offseason as part of the return for Dejounte Murray. The expectation is that they’ll gather even more draft assets before Thursday’s deadline arrives, per Wojnarowski (Twitter link). Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott are among the veteran trade candidates still on the roster.
It’s unclear whether Birch will be part of the Spurs’ plans going forward. The 30-year-old center has appeared in just 20 games this season, averaging career lows in points (2.2), rebounds (1.3), and minutes (8.1) per contest. He’s earning approximately $6.7MM this season and has a guaranteed salary of nearly $7MM for 2023/24, so even if he’s waived before the fall, he would cut into San Antonio’s projected ’23 cap room.
Following the deal, the Spurs remain $25.6MM below the cap and $15.7MM under the salary floor for this season, according to ESPN’s Bobby Marks (Twitter links).
Luke Adams contributed to this story.
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Matisse Thybulle To Blazers, Jalen McDaniels To Sixers In Three-Team Trade
The Trail Blazers are in the process of finalizing a trade for Sixers defensive ace Matisse Thybulle, reports Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report (Twitter link).
According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter links), it’ll be a three-team deal that also includes the Hornets, with forward Jalen McDaniels headed to Philadelphia and Charlotte acquiring multiple second-round picks. Veteran wing Svi Mykhailiuk, whom the Blazers agreed to acquire in the Josh Hart trade with New York, will be flipped to the Hornets in this deal, Woj adds (Twitter links).
Bobby Marks of ESPN (Twitter links) provides the full breakdown of the agreement:
- Sixers to acquire McDaniels, the Knicks’ 2024 second-round pick (from Charlotte), and the Trail Blazers’ 2029 second-round pick.
- Blazers to acquire Thybulle.
- Hornets to acquire the most favorable of the Hornets’, Hawks’, and Nets’ 2023 second-round picks (from Philadelphia), the most favorable of the Pelicans’ and Blazers’ 2027 second-round picks (from Portland), and Mykhailiuk (from Portland).
In addition to adding a couple of second-round picks and a versatile forward in McDaniels, the Sixers will also dip under the luxury tax line with this move — they were previously $1.1MM over, but by swapping Thybulle ($4.38MM) for McDaniels ($1.93MM), they’ll now be about $1.35MM under.
McDaniels, 25, is having the most productive season of his four-year career. Through 56 games with Charlotte (21 starts, 26.7 MPG), he held averages of 10.6 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 2.0 APG and 1.2 SPG on .447/.332/.846 shooting. The former 52nd overall pick will be an unrestricted free agent in the summer, but the Sixers will hold his Bird rights if they want to re-sign him.
Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports reported last month that the Blazers were targeting players athletic players with size and 3-and-D wings. While Thybulle isn’t a great shooter, he is a terrific athlete and was named to the All-Defensive Second Team in two of his first three seasons, so he fulfills some of what they were looking for.
Like Cam Reddish, whom the Blazers acquired in the Josh Hart deal, Thybulle will be a restricted free agent in the summer if Portland extends him a qualifying offer. The defensive stalwart was the 20th overall pick back in 2019.
Evidently the Hornets decided they didn’t want to pay McDaniels in the offseason and instead chose to add a couple of second-round picks. While they did give up one (New York’s 2024 pick), they also received two in return, with their own pick almost certain to come back to them (the Sixers controlled it from a previous trade). That pick will land in the early 30s, so it has solid value.
Mykhaliuk was also sent to Portland in the Hart deal and will now be rerouted to Charlotte. He has hardly played this season, but the Hornets will get a cheap flyer on him if they want to keep him around — he was drafted by GM Mitch Kupchak back in 2016 when the two were with the Lakers.
Rory Maher contributed to this post.
Lakers To Trade Thomas Bryant To Nuggets
The Lakers and Nuggets have agreed to a trade that will send center Thomas Bryant to Denver in exchange for swingman Davon Reed and three second-round picks, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN (Twitter link).
According to Wojnarowski (via Twitter), the second-round picks are Denver’s own in 2025, 2026, and 2029. The Nuggets have now traded away all their second-rounders between 2025 and 2029.
Bryant, who signed a minimum-salary contract with the Lakers in the offseason, has filled in admirably as the Lakers’ starting center during Anthony Davis‘ injury absences this season, but has only played a modest backup role when Davis is healthy.
In 41 games (25 starts), Bryant has averaged 12.1 points and 6.8 rebounds in 21.4 minutes per contest. His .654% FG% is a career high, as is his .440 3PT% (albeit on limited volume).
Still, as long as Davis stays healthy, Bryant’s value to the Lakers wasn’t substantial, especially with newly acquired forward Jarred Vanderbilt expected to spend some time playing as a small-ball five. Los Angeles also has veteran big man Wenyen Gabriel for depth purposes up front and would have been limited in its ability to give Bryant a raise as a free agent this summer since the team only controlled his Non-Bird rights.
On top of all that, Bryant hadn’t been thrilled with his reduced role following Davis’ return, according to Ramona Shelburne of ESPN, who tweets that he asked the Lakers to look for a better situation for him.
It’s unclear if Reed will be in the Lakers’ plans going forward. He’s on a minimum-salary contract with a non-guaranteed salary in 2023/24 and hasn’t played much in Denver this season, averaging 2.3 PPG and 1.6 RPG on .313/.364/.750 shooting in 35 appearances (9.0 MPG). The second-round picks are the primary return for L.A. in the deal, essentially replacing the three second-rounders the club gave up for Rui Hachimura last month.
As for the Nuggets, they’ve been in the market for a reliable backup center behind two-time MVP Nikola Jokic, since offseason signee DeAndre Jordan hasn’t been a regular part of the rotation. Bryant should fill that role nicely, giving the team some extra frontcourt depth as it focuses on making a deep playoff run this spring.
As Bobby Marks of ESPN tweets, both teams will create small trade exceptions equivalent to the salaries of their outgoing players ($1.9MM for Denver; $1.84MM for L.A.). Neither the Nuggets nor the Lakers have to worry about salary-matching in the deal, since both players can be absorbed using the minimum salary exception.
Trail Blazers Insist Damian Lillard Won’t Be Traded
The Trail Blazers are getting calls about Damian Lillard, but they’re telling interested teams that he’s “unequivocally” not available, tweets Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report.
Lillard has repeatedly expressed his desire to remain in Portland and try to bring a championship to the city. He has signed three extensions with the team, including a two-year agreement in July that will run through the 2026/27 season if he decides to exercise a player option.
Lillard recently earned his seventh All-Star selection and remains an elite player at age 32, averaging 30.9 points and 7.3 assists through 43 games. He has bounced back fully from abdominal surgery that limited him to 29 games last season.
The Trail Blazers nose-dived once Lillard was sidelined last year, but they headed into the summer determined to rebuild a contender around him. After a series of offseason personnel moves, Portland is currently holding onto the final play-in spot at 27-28.
However, the Blazers sold off an asset Wednesday night, sending starting swingman Josh Hart to the Knicks in exchange for a draft pick and Cam Reddish, who had been stuck on New York’s bench since early December.
Portland appears committed to keeping Lillard, although it’s worth noting that the Nets leaked similar statements about Kevin Durant before agreeing to send him to Phoenix Wednesday night. Perhaps the use of the word “unequivocally” is a message that the Blazers’ stance is firm.
Eastern Notes: Thybulle, D. Robinson, Lowry, Celtics, Hart, Pistons
Sixers center Joel Embiid knows that teammate Matisse Thybulle has been mentioned in trade rumors leading up to Thursday’s deadline, but the All-Star big man praised Thybulle’s defensive abilities and said he’d like to see the team hang onto the fourth-year wing, per Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer.
“Personally, I would love to have him,” Embiid said. “I think he’s one of our better defenders, especially on the perimeter. We don’t have a lot of guys that cause steals or blocks, and all that stuff, extra possessions. That takes extra possessions from the other teams. He’s someone that fits on every NBA team based on his defensive skill set. I think he helps us a lot. But then again, I don’t make the decisions.”
There are a handful of reasons why Thybulle has been mentioned as a trade candidate. His offensive limitations have been exposed in past postseasons, he’s headed for free agency this summer, and the Sixers are only slightly above the luxury tax line, so moving off a small amount of salary could save them a significant amount of cash at season’s end.
Here’s more from around the East:
- The Heat have explored trading forward Duncan Robinson, but Robinson’s pricey long-term contract and uncertainty about his status following finger surgery have decimated any value he might have, per Barry Jackson and Anthony Chiang of The Miami Herald. According to Jackson and Chiang, potential trade partners have sought multiple first-round picks in talks involving Robinson, so the Heat are more focused on discussions centered around Kyle Lowry, with the Clippers still in the mix.
- The Celtics‘ trade offer for Jakob Poeltl consisted of guard Payton Pritchard, injured forward Danilo Gallinari, and multiple future second-round picks, reports Brian Robb of MassLive.com. While that proposal would’ve given the Spurs a promising young player in Pritchard, it fell well short of what Toronto was offering in terms of draft compensation.
- Fred Katz of The Athletic explores how Josh Hart will fit in with the Knicks and explains why New York wanted him, noting that he’s a classic Tom Thibodeau sort of player. Katz also notes that the protection terms on the team’s traded 2023 first-round pick (it will turn into four second-rounders if it lands in the lottery) will allow the Knicks to remain flexible with all of their future first-rounders this offseason and beyond.
- The Pistons have reportedly set a high asking price for veterans Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, who are both under contract for next season, and head coach Dwane Casey understands why the front office has taken that stance, as Omari Sankofa II of The Detroit Free Press (subscriber link) relays. “(Burks) and (Bogdanovic) are the perfect fit for our rebuilding program, and we’re ready to take off and go forward next year,” Casey said. “Those two guys are just important pieces now and also going forward.”
