Hoops Rumors Chat Transcript: 7/9/2024
Hoops Rumors hosted a live chat today at 11 a.m. Central time (noon Eastern). Click here to read the transcript.
Team USA Notes: Edwards, Durant, Leonard, LeBron
Timberwolves guard Anthony Edwards declared himself “the No. 1 option” for Team USA during a media session on Sunday, but that’s not how he really views his place on the squad, writes Joe Vardon of The Athletic. Vardon suggests that Edwards may have been performing a little bit when talking to reporters, defaulting to the brash personality that has helped him become one of the NBA’s most recognizable figures at age 22. Outside of the media spotlight, Edwards acknowledged that he’s teaming up with some of the greatest players of all time.
“We got LeBron (James), (Kevin Durant) and (Stephen Curry),” Edwards told Vardon. “So I don’t feel like nobody can beat those three by themselves on the court. You mix in two of us regular guys, we’ll be all right.”
Edwards and Tyrese Haliburton are the only returning players from the U.S. contingent that failed to win a medal at last year’s FIBA World Cup. Edwards became a star on that team after initially being projected for a sixth-man slot, but he knows it will be more difficult to earn a consistent role while playing with legends.
“They mentioned some guys might not play some games, or might not play many minutes,” Edwards said. “I don’t mind. Like I said, I’m playing alongside Hall of Famers. So I’m just here. But if they need me, I’ll be one call away.”
There’s more on Team USA:
- A strained calf forced Durant to sit out the first two days of training camp, Vardon adds along with Shams Charania in a separate story for The Athletic. Coach Steve Kerr said the injury isn’t considered serious, but the Suns forward may miss Wednesday’s first exhibition game against Canada. “We’re just going to use an abundance of caution,” Kerr said. “It’s not bad. He’s assuring me that it’s not bad. We’re just going to be really careful and take it day by day.”
- Kawhi Leonard had fears that lingering inflammation in his right knee might cause him to miss the Olympics, but he’s experienced enough improvement that he expects to be ready to play, per Tim Bontemps of ESPN. “Yeah, but this is just my journey, so whatever … I can’t lay out the perfect script for me,” Leonard said. “Last year, I tried to play as much as possible, felt great. And at a certain period of time I couldn’t go. I tried the best that I could, but it’s just my journey. I don’t want to be in a situation that I do be in, but I got to take it for what it is. And a lot of people are watching, supporters or doubters, but I motivate a lot of people.” Leonard refused to comment on Paul George‘s decision to leave the Clippers in free agency, Bontemps adds, saying he wants to focus on Team USA.
- Kerr was amazed after watching James operate at full speed during Saturday’s first practice session, according to Mark Medina of Sportskeeda. The 39-year-old Lakers star had no problem keeping up with his younger teammates. “I was blown away by how hard he practices,” Kerr said.
Daniel Theis Signs With Pelicans
JULY 9: Theis’ deal with New Orleans is now official, according to the NBA’s transaction log.
JULY 8: Free agent center Daniel Theis will join the Pelicans on a one-year contract, sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link).
His salary will be roughly $3MM, according to Kelly Iko of The Athletic (Twitter link). That suggests it’s probably a minimum-salary deal, which would be worth $2,800,834.
The well-traveled big man will provide an inside presence for a New Orleans team that just lost Jonas Valanciunas, who was shipped to Washington in a sign-and-trade deal. Theis could be in contention for a starting spot, depending on how the Pelicans fill out the rest of their roster.
New Orleans will be the sixth team for Theis, who averaged 6.3 points, 4.1 rebounds and 1.0 assists in 59 games with the Clippers last season. He signed with L.A. in mid-November after being waived by Indiana.
Theis, 32, began his career with Boston in 2017. He also had short stays with Chicago and Houston, along with a return to the Celtics late in the 2021/22 season.
Theis was one of the stars of the German team that went undefeated while winning the gold medal at the 2023 FIBA World Cup. He will represent Germany again at this year’s Summer Olympics.
Paul George Explains Decision To Leave Clippers
Paul George said in a his latest podcast (Twitter video link) that he “never wanted to leave L.A.,” but he was frustrated by negotiations with the Clippers, including an initial offer that he viewed as “kinda disrespectful.”
Wearing his new Sixers jersey, George explained that his preference was to re-sign with the Clippers and try to help them win their first-ever title. He emphasized that there are “no hard feelings” toward the organization, but said the first offer he received when contract talks started in October was $60MM over two years, which he called “crazy.”
“As we kept going, they would go up inches, inches, inches, to where it was like 44, 45,” George said, “but this was like a couple months in between before we got it to 40-something. I’m still like, ‘Nah, I’m not doing that. Then I hear wind of what they’re going to give Kawhi (Leonard). So I’m like ‘Just give me what Kawhi got. Y’all view us the same. We came here together. … I’ll take what Kawhi got.’ I was cool with that.”
George noted that Leonard accepted less than the max when he agreed to a three-year, $152.4MM extension in January, adding that he was willing to do the same to keep the core of the team together. George’s negotiations remained unproductive until he halted talks around the All-Star break because he didn’t want the new contract to be a distraction for the rest of the season.
“Season ends, I finish healthy, 74 games played and had one of my most efficient seasons,” George said. “So now we go into negotiations, now they bring it to three years, $150MM. It sucks that we had to get to this point, that we couldn’t get this figured out a lot sooner. I’m like all right, now we’re in the ballpark. Now we can have a conversation here.”
George said he was willing to accept that offer as long as the Clippers included a no-trade clause to make sure he got to stay in Southern California. When the team refused, he increased his asking price to four years at $212MM.
“If y’all going to trade me, y’all going to trade me,” he said. “But at least now I’m not in a situation where I could have got more had I just gone to free agency than take this deal and y’all can just ship me wherever (you) want. Now I’m on this deal that I didn’t want. They didn’t want to do that.”
George said that’s when he became open to exploring offers from other teams. That led him to schedule free agency meetings with the Sixers and Magic and ultimately accept a four-year max offer from Philadelphia.
“Through negotiations, they weren’t budging, they weren’t going to budge,” George said of Clippers management. “I wasn’t going to budge. I thought I played well enough for them to, you know, be like ‘He’s a part of our future.’ I thought I did that. I thought I earned that. Granted we didn’t win while I was there, but luck has a lot to do with that. We couldn’t remain healthy as a unit. But I thought I did enough to earn that.
“… I love (Clippers owner Steve Ballmer). I love (team president Lawrence Frank), but at that point it didn’t even feel right to come back with that type of energy and be comfortable playing back in L.A.”
Scottie Barnes Signs Max Extension With Raptors
JULY 8: Barnes’ extension is now official, the Raptors confirmed (via Twitter).
“We are so proud of Scottie for the player and leader he has become,” team president Masai Ujiri said in a press release. “I’ve said before that he is the type of player you build a team around. Well, we are doing that. … Together, our future starts here. It starts now.”
JUNE 24: Scottie Barnes will receive a maximum-salary extension from the Raptors that could pay him up to $270MM over five years, sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link).
The deal won’t include a team or player option, reports Michael Scotto of HoopsHype.
Toronto intends to rebuild its roster around the 2022 Rookie of the Year, according to Wojnarowski, who adds that agent Bill Duffy of WME Basketball recently met with team president Masai Ujiri and general manager Bobby Webster to work out the terms of the deal. Barnes will become eligible to sign it once the moratorium lifts on July 6.
Cap expert Yossi Gozlan (Twitter link) offers details on the projected salaries for Barnes, noting that the base value of the extension projects to be nearly $225MM (based on a $141MM cap in 2024/25 and a 10% increase for ’25/26), but it could reach $270MM if he makes an All-NBA team next season.
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Without an All-NBA nod next spring, Barnes would be on track to earn $38,775,000 when the extension begins with the 2025/26 season, followed by $41,877,000 in 2026/27, $44,979,000 in 2027/28, $48,081,000 in 2028/29 and $51,183,000 in 2029/30.
Barnes’ extension and an expected new deal for Immanuel Quickley mean the Raptors likely won’t have any cap space to work with next summer, Gozlan adds (Twitter link). They could have about $30MM available this year if they decline their $23MM team option on Bruce Brown or trade him without receiving much salary in return.
Barnes has emerged as Toronto’s franchise player since being drafted with the fourth pick in 2021. He earned his first All-Star selection this season, averaging 19.9 points, 8.2 rebounds and 6.1 assists in 60 games. His season ended early when he underwent surgery for a broken bone in his left hand in early March.
The Raptors seemed to anoint him as the key to their future when they traded away OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam in separate deals over the winter.
Barnes becomes the first member of the 2021 draft class to reach an extension with his team. Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Evan Mobley and Jalen Suggs are among the others in line for extensions this summer.
Heat Notes: Love, Ware, Highsmith, Offseason
Kevin Love declined his $4MM player option for next season, but staying in Miami was always his first choice, writes Anthony Chiang of The Miami Herald. The veteran big man not only remained with the Heat, he was able to get the deal he wanted — $3.85MM for the upcoming season and $4.15MM for 2025/26 — signing shortly after free agency began on June 30.
“In every free agency, there’s always a chance to look around the league and see opportunity,” Love said. “But in my mind, in terms of how the team operates, who [coach Erik Spoelstra] is, who [team president Pat Riley] is, who [general manager Andy Elisburg] is, it really in the last year and a half has felt like home. It felt like we were always optimistic that we would be able to get this done, get an extra year and just be able to provide as much as I possibly can for the team. I’m very, very happy to be back.”
Love has become a fixture in Miami since joining the organization late in the 2022/23 season. He was inserted into the starting lineup and sparked the team’s surprising run to the NBA Finals, then moved into a reserve role last season, coming off the bench for 50 of the 55 games he played. Love, who turns 36 in September, believes he can remain productive and envisions spending more time at power forward alongside Bam Adebayo.
“Being able to play high-low or being able to space the floor while a traditional five operates in the paint is something that I can add high value to,” Love said. “So I think it’s something that’s there. I’m sure it’s something that we’ll toy with and see in training camp. But I think it could be something that could happen this year.”
There’s more on the Heat:
- First-round pick Kel’el Ware put on a dominant performance Sunday in his second Summer League game with 26 points, 11 rebounds, three assists and a block, Chiang adds in a separate story. The 20-year-old center said he had to “get the jitters out” after his first contest, and he focused more on controlling the lane area than shooting three-pointers. “Right now, my shot is feeling a little short,” Ware said. “So I wanted to get to the basket more and just be more of a target in my presence, be more in the paint today. I felt like I did that a little bit.”
- Several teams remain interested in Heat free agent Haywood Highsmith, tweets Michael Scotto of HoopsHype. Although he doesn’t identify any of them, Scotto says that Highsmith is getting “recruitment pitches from Hall of Fame players and championship coaches.” Miami, which is $6.8MM away from the second apron, remains in talks with the 27-year-old forward, Scotto adds.
- Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald examines some of the criticism being leveled at Heat management in the midst of a disappointing offseason to determine what’s legitimate and what isn’t.
Stephen Curry Talks About Losing Klay Thompson
Speaking to Kendra Andrews of ESPN, Stephen Curry speculated that the NBA’s new rules will make it difficult for another team to ever have long-term success like the Warriors.
Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson won four titles together and formed the core of their team for more than a decade. With the introduction of an additional tax apron in the latest Collective Bargaining Agreement, the roster became too expensive and too restrictive to keep together and their partnership ended last week when Thompson reached an agreement with the Mavericks.
“I don’t think [it will be replicated] just because it’s very hard to keep things together in this league,” Curry said. “A lot more player movement. Me, Klay and Draymond, we complemented each other so well for so long. We all brought something different to the table, so we’ll see. Records are meant to be broken. Dynasties come all different shapes inside of us, so we’ll see.”
Curry told Andrews that he “desperately” wanted Thompson to return to the team. However, there have been indications for several months that he wouldn’t get the offer he wanted from Golden State and was planning to explore his options in free agency. Curry also said he understands that Thompson needs a fresh start after 13 years in the Bay Area and expressed hope that he can rediscover the joy he had earlier in his career.
“It’s something that I never imagined would be a reality, but we want him to be happy,” Curry said.
Known as the “Splash Brothers” for their exceptional shooting, Curry and Thompson will be remembered as one of the most successful backcourts in NBA history. They made six trips to the NBA Finals, with Curry twice earning league MVP honors and being named Finals MVP in 2022. Curry was a 10-time All-Star during their years together, while Thompson was selected to five All-Star games.
Warriors coach Steve Kerr also participated in the interview, saying it’s odd to have Thompson playing for another franchise. He added that the feeling won’t fully seem real until the Warriors gather for training camp.
“This has become a family over the years and people have watched us grow and stay together and succeed and fail,” Kerr said. “So Klay leaves, it’s like, yeah, it’s bizarre for us, it’s bizarre for everybody. [But] everybody is given a ton of freedom here and they have to do what’s in their heart. The best thing for Klay, he needed a change.”
The loss of Thompson is part of a roster overhaul as Golden State tries to create a younger team with a smaller tax bill while still getting the most out of the end of Curry’s career. Andrews notes that Kyle Anderson, De’Anthony Melton and Buddy Hield have all been brought in this summer, and larger roles are expected for Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, Brandin Podziemski and Trayce Jackson-Davis.
“Being in one place for my own career, and it’s like a broken record, but I know it’s really hard to do that,” Curry said. “I want to be greedy and say we can be relevant and be in the mix and give ourselves a realistic chance to win while I’m still growing these gray hairs and doing high school visits in the Bay [Area] for my daughter. It’s crazy. [It’s] just the nature of where I’m at. But yes, all that to say I love the Bay and the Bay is home and I never want that to change.”
Sixers Notes: Embiid, George, McCain, Depth
A few weeks after working together on ESPN’s coverage of the NBA Finals, Joel Embiid and Paul George are Sixers teammates, writes Gina Mizell of The Philadelphia Inquirer. Embiid dropped a not-so-subtle hint during that broadcast, saying that Philadelphia needed to upgrade its roster and glancing at George, who was involved in extension negotiations with the Clippers at the time that ultimately collapsed and resulted in his free agency.
Speaking to reporters Saturday after Team USA’s first practice to prepare for the Summer Olympics, Embiid talked about what a difference it will make to have another All-Star joining him and Tyrese Maxey in Philadelphia.
“My focus is on helping [my teammates] as much as possible,” Embiid said. “Making the game easy for them, so I don’t have to do a lot, like in the past years. It was exciting [getting George]. Obviously, that’s a great job that [the front office] did. But we’ve still got to go on the court and try to win.”
Embiid has been one of the league’s most dominant players over the last two years, winning MVP honors in 2023 and possibly heading for a repeat before being sidelined with a torn meniscus in January. However, he has also frequently broken down in the playoffs and should benefit from not having to carry the team as much during the regular season.
The addition of George, along with Caleb Martin, Eric Gordon and Andre Drummond, has the Sixers looking like legitimate title contenders, but Embiid cautioned that everything might not click right away.
“Obviously, everybody always has the mindset [of] winning a championship, and that’s the goal,” he said. “But you’ve also got to understand it’s going to take a while for everybody to be on the same page. Hopefully it doesn’t take us a while and we just [have it] from the beginning, but that’s kind of rare.”
There’s more on the Sixers:
- First-round pick Jared McCain plans to turn to Maxey as a mentor as he adjusts to the NBA game, per Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer. Pompey notes that both players fell out of the lottery even though they were coming off productive seasons at traditional college powers. “Whether it’s the work ethic, how is transition was from college to the NBA, I’m going to try to learn everything I can from (Maxey),” McCain said. “He’s an All-Star now. Everything I can, I’m going to try and figure it out and learn from him.”
- While the Sixers have been very active in adding players in free agency, they also lost several veterans and currently only have nine players on standard contracts, including Ricky Council‘s non-guaranteed salary for 2024/25. David Murphy of The Philadelphia Inquirer takes a look at how the team might fill out the rest of its roster.
- In case you missed it, the Sixers have officially signed former Heat wing Caleb Martin to a four-year contract. They also waived big man Paul Reed, who was on a non-guaranteed deal, to create cap room for Martin’s addition.
Rory Maher contributed to this post.
Vlatko Cancar Re-Signs With Nuggets
Vlatko Cancar has signed a new contract with the Nuggets, according to NBA.com’s transactions log.
Details of the deal weren’t released, but Vinny Benedetto of The Denver Gazette (Twitter link) says the deal is worth the veteran’s minimum. As we noted recently, a one-year minimum deal would pay Cancar $2.3MM while carrying a $2.09MM cap hit.
The 27-year-old power forward became an unrestricted free agent last month when the Nuggets declined their option for next season. However, the two sides continued to negotiate in hopes of keeping him in Denver. They wound up with a new agreement that gives Cancar a slight raise while decreasing his impact on the Nuggets’ cap number.
Cancar missed all of last season with a torn ACL, but he was able to play for Slovenia in this week’s Olympic qualifying tournament and he should be 100% when training camp opens in late September.
Cancar has spent his entire NBA career in Denver after being selected with the 49th pick in the 2017 draft. He was an important contributor during the Nuggets’ championship season, appearing in 60 games and averaging 5.0 points, 2.1 rebounds and 1.3 assists in 14.8 minutes per night.
Kings To Acquire DeMar DeRozan In Three-Team Trade
DeMar DeRozan is headed from the Bulls to the Kings in a three-team deal that also includes the Spurs, sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link). San Antonio will receive Harrison Barnes, while Chicago will get Chris Duarte, two second-round picks and cash. In addition, the Spurs will get an unprotected pick swap from Sacramento in 2031.
The deal is a sign-and-trade for DeRozan, who ranked sixth on our list of the top 50 free agents for this summer. His new contract will be worth approximately $76MM over three years, according to Chris Haynes of TNT and Bleacher Report (Twitter link), who adds that the first two seasons are fully guaranteed with a partial guarantee for the final year.
The contract includes $49MM in guaranteed money over the first two seasons, per Sean Cunningham of FOX 40 Sacramento (Twitter link). It also features bonuses for being named an All-Star, tweets ESPN’s Bobby Marks.
The trade leaves the Kings hard capped at the $178.1MM first apron, per cap expert Yossi Gozlan (Twitter link). They’re about $5.8MM beneath the $170.8MM luxury tax with 12 players under contract. Gozlan points out that Sacramento can add two more players to its roster without going into tax territory, but using most of its remaining $12.8MM non-taxpayer mid-level exception will push the team over the threshold.
Sacramento will also create a $5.9MM trade exception in the deal, Gozlan adds.
The Kings were heavily pursing DeRozan, who traveled to Sacramento for a meeting today with team officials. The 34-year-old forward was extremely productive during his three seasons in Chicago, averaging 25.5 points, 4.7 rebounds and 5.1 assists and finishing near the top in the Clutch Player of the Year balloting the past two seasons.
The six-time All-Star will now team with De’Aaron Fox, Domantas Sabonis, Malik Monk and Keegan Murray on what should be one of the league’s most exciting offenses. The Kings will be counting on that group to lead them back to the playoffs after being eliminated in the play-in tournament last season.
Parting with DeRozan is the latest step in an offseason roster shakeup in Chicago, which has already traded Alex Caruso and lost Andre Drummond in free agency. The Bulls are shifting to a younger and less expensive roster in hopes of eventually rebuilding into a more competitive team.
Duarte, a 27-year-old swingman with three years of NBA experience, is the latest addition, but it’s uncertain how large his role will be. He appeared in 59 games with Sacramento last season, but averaged just 3.9 points and 1.8 rebounds in 12.2 minutes per night. Duarte is under contract for one more season at $5.9MM and is eligible for an extension through October 21. Chicago will create a $17.6MM trade exception in the deal, according to Bobby Marks of ESPN (Twitter link).
Barnes joins Chris Paul as veteran offseason additions in San Antonio. The 32-year-old is extremely durable, playing in all 82 games the past two seasons. He can handle either forward spot and he figures to get plenty of open looks alongside Paul and Victor Wembanyama. Barnes averaged 12.2 points, 3.0 rebounds and 1.2 assists last season with .474/.387/.801 shooting stats.
The Spurs will use their cap space to absorb Barnes’ $18MM salary for the upcoming season, Wojnarowski and Tim Bontemps write in a full story on the trade. Barnes will make $19MM in 2025/26 before becoming an unrestricted free agent.
Barnes’s contract includes a $3.7MM trade kicker that Sacramento will be responsible for, Marks adds (Twitter link), broken up into $1.85MM for each of the next two seasons. That number could be negotiated down, but only with Barnes’ consent.
San Antonio will likely need to make one or two minor cost-cutting moves (they have Charles Bassey and Julian Champagnie on non-guaranteed contracts) in order to accommodate both Barnes and Paul.
