Poll: Is Evan Turner Worth 2014 First-Rounder?
The Sixers continue to seek a first-round pick from teams in return for either Evan Turner or Spencer Hawes, tweets Marc Stein of ESPN.com. It appears they’re looking specifically for a pick between Nos. 10 and 15 in this year’s draft, according to fellow ESPN.com scribe Chad Ford. Philadelphia appears to be seeking a first-rounder for Thaddeus Young, too, even though they’re apparently less inclined to ship him out.
The Sixers appear more anxious to deal Turner than Hawes or Young. Philadelphia has had talks with the Suns and Thunder, and the Clippers, Hawks, Bobcats and Mavs appear to have interest, too. The stumbling block is Philly’s insistence on getting a first-round pick in return. One GM told Sean Deveney of The Sporting News that he’d be hesitant to surrender assets for a player he could sign as a free agent this summer. Turner is set for restricted free agency, but the Sixers appear coy about extending a fairly sizable $8,717,226 qualifying offer, which would tie up a chunk of their cap space. Without the qualifying offer, Turner would become an unrestricted free agent, and teams could strike as they please without worrying that Philadelphia would match offers.
Still, Turner is having a career year, and was the No. 2 overall pick in 2010. He seems like a talented player on the rise. Let us know if you think he’s worth a first-round pick in this year’s draft, and share your thoughts in the comments.
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Eastern Notes: Ewing, Gay, Bynum, Celtics
Patrick Ewing is the lead assistant coach for the Bobcats, but the Hall-of-Fame 7-footer thinks front offices have a bias against centers that helps keep him from becoming a head coach, as he tells Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports. None of the current NBA head coaches who played in the league were centers, and none of the 10 winningest coaches in league history were true centers, either, as Spears points out. Ewing has long been anxious to take over a team, and Bobcats head coach Steve Clifford says Ewing’s put in the work necessary to break the mold. Here’s the latest from the Eastern Conference:
- Rudy Gay will face the Raptors for the first time as a member of the Kings tonight, and Matt Kawahara of The Sacramento Bee examines how Gay and his former team have both emerged better for the deal.
- Andrew Bynum‘s pitch to the Pacers during a three-hour meeting with the team the night before he signed was key to the deal, GM Kevin Pritchard said Tuesday on ESPN Radio with Colin Cowherd. Candace Buckner of the Indianapolis Star provides a transcription.
- The Celtics have recalled Vitor Faverani from the D-League a day after sending him down, the team announced. He suffered a left knee injury while with the Maine Red Claws on Tuesday, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe details.
- Philadelphia’s shuttling of Lorenzo Brown continues, as the Sixers today recalled the point guard from the D-League after sending him down Tuesday, the team announced via Twitter. It was his fourth assignment of one day or less.
Jarvis Varnado Drawing NBA Interest
An injury scuttled the audition that former Celtics and Heat big man Jarvis Varnado had set up with the Sixers last month, but he continues to hear from NBA teams, reports Gino Pilato of D-League Digest. The former second-round pick suffered a hip strain just before trying out with Philadelphia, but he’s almost fully healthy and is preparing to take part in the D-League All-Star game this month.
Pilato suggests multiple NBA teams are in touch with the Impact Sports Basketball client, but it’s unclear which teams are in the mix. The Sixers plucked Dewayne Dedmon from the audition that Varnado missed, signing him to a pair of 10-day deals, but they elected not to re-sign Dedmon for the season, so the Sixers have an open roster spot if they want to circle back to Varnado.
Varnado is averaging an eye-popping five blocks per game for the Iowa Energy, and it’s a skill he also displayed during his time in the D-League last year and in college at Mississippi State. He didn’t get much chance to do so in the NBA last season, playing only a total of 58 minutes for Boston and Miami. The Heat brought him camp this past fall, but cut him before opening night.
Players Up For Rookie Scale Extensions In 2014
Perhaps the most intriguing sideshow in the lead-up to this year’s trade deadline has involved Kyrie Irving, who’s denied a report that he wants out of Cleveland amid a depressing season for the Cavs. Central to that story line is Cleveland’s ability to offer Irving an extension this summer, which will be Irving’s first opportunity at salaries commensurate with his ability. If the Cavs see Irving as a maximum-salary player, there’s little Irving can do even if he turns down the extension, since Cleveland would be able to match any team’s offer to him in the summer of 2015.
Still, Irving could signal his dissatisfaction with the Cavs organization if he turns down a max extension, so the negotiations provide a forum for him to express any desire he may have for changes. The Cavs will also have a chance to give Tristan Thompson a rookie scale extension this summer, and what they do with him might be even more interesting to watch. Thompson probably isn’t a maximum-salary player, making his worth harder to define. Pegging the value of second-tier guys is a challenge for teams and agents alike, and since the extensions usually entail a four-year commitment, the consequences are long-lasting. If the sides can’t come to an agreement, the team may pull off a trade, as the Thunder did with James Harden before last season.
Negotiations can start on rookie scale extensions July 1st, and the deadline to finalize deals is October 31st. Most deals don’t happen until the last minute, but max-level players, like John Wall this past summer and Blake Griffin in 2012, often ink their extensions in the summer.
Here’s a list of each player eligible for a rookie scale extension this year, sorted by team:
- 76ers: None
- Bobcats: Bismack Biyombo, Kemba Walker
- Bucks: Brandon Knight,
- Bulls: Jimmy Butler
- Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson
- Celtics: None
- Clippers: None
- Grizzlies: None
- Hawks: None
- Heat: Norris Cole
- Jazz: Alec Burks, Enes Kanter
- Kings: Derrick Williams
- Knicks: Iman Shumpert
- Lakers: None
- Magic: Tobias Harris, Nikola Vucevic
- Mavericks
- Nets: None
- Nuggets: Kenneth Faried
- Pacers: None
- Pelicans: None
- Pistons: None
- Raptors: None
- Rockets: None
- Spurs: Kawhi Leonard, Cory Joseph
- Suns: Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris
- Thunder: Reggie Jackson
- Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio
- Trail Blazers: Joel Freeland, Victor Claver
- Warriors: Klay Thompson
- Wizards: None
Othyus Jeffers To Rejoin D-League
Recent Spurs 10-day signee Othyus Jeffers will return to the D-League’s Iowa Energy, tweets Shams Charania of RealGM.com. The Spurs terminated their deal with Jeffers a day early this past weekend so they could sign Shannon Brown. Jeffers has spent part of five of the last six seasons with the Energy, who retain his D-League rights.
The 28-year-old appeared in four games and even started one for injury-hit San Antonio, taking just five shots and scoring seven points in 34 total minutes. Jeffers has otherwise experienced his best season in the D-League this year, setting career highs of 22.8 points and 11.4 rebounds per game.
Charania suggests part of Jeffers’ motivation for heading back to the D-League is his desire to stay on the radar of NBA teams. Given his extensive D-League resume and lack of international experience, the move is no surprise.
Western Rumors: Clippers, Aldridge, Gay
Brian Windhorst and Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.com examine the chances that the Clippers could wind up with LeBron James this summer, calling them “perhaps the most serious competitor” the Heat will face for the four-time MVP. The Clippers aren’t set to have cap space, but Miami had to pull off some last-minute moves to open up room for their free agent haul in 2010, and a source close to James tells the ESPN.com scribes that James will consider teams without cap room. It would require the Heat to cooperate, and league executives believe they’d ask for Blake Griffin as part of a sign-and-trade, according to Windhorst and Shelburne. While we wait to see if that scenario plays out, here’s more from the West:
- LaMarcus Aldridge says he’ll make “winning and happiness and making sure my worth is valued” his priorities in his next contract negotiations, and tells Ken Berger of CBSSports.com that he wants to wait until summer to talk about an extension. That’s the same timetable Blazers owner Paul Allen said he’ll take shortly after Aldridge revealed he’d be open to an extension.
- Rudy Gay tells Marc Stein of ESPN.com that he isn’t leaning one way or another about whether to exercise his player option this summer, but he says he appreciates the on-court freedom the Kings have given him since December’s trade.
- The Suns have assigned Archie Goodwin to the D-League, the team announced. The rookie performed well on his first trip to the Bakersfield Jam late last month, averaging 29.5 points and 6.0 rebounds in a pair of games.
- Andre Roberson is back from yesterday’s assignment to the D-League, the Thunder announced. The power forward put up 20 points and 11 rebounds Tuesday for the Tulsa 66ers.
Kyler’s Latest: Rivers, Bobcats, Sixers
Sources tell Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders that the Pelicans have had a deal in place all season to trade Austin Rivers if he didn’t start seeing minutes. His playing time has perked up of late, and Kyler wonders if the Pelicans are merely showcasing him for other trades. The Pelicans are also open to trading Eric Gordon and Tyreke Evans, according to Kyler, who shares plenty more in his latest piece. We’ll hit the highlights here:
- The Bobcats are “kicking around” the idea of trading for Greg Monroe, Kyler writes. He also hears they’d be willing to throw Bismack Biyombo into a Ben Gordon trade to convince teams to take on Gordon’s inflated deal, but as Kyler notes, that wouldn’t do much to persuade reluctant trade partners.
- The Sixers could wind up dealing away all of their three veteran trade candidates — Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner and Thaddeus Young — by the deadline, Kyler writes, adding that the Rockets have been targeting Young all season. We heard Young connected to Houston in December, but this is the first report suggesting the Rockets have had interest in him since.
- Dion Waiters and Alonzo Gee are the names most frequently mentioned around the league when the subject of Cavs trade candidates comes up, according to Kyler. Cleveland is reluctant to make Anderson Varejao a part of its talks, but the Cavs are coming around to ideas they hadn’t previously considered, Kyler observes, adding that the team looks like it will be a seller, either at the deadline or around draft time.
- Almost everyone on the Bucks, outside of Giannis Antetokounmpo and John Henson, is fair game for a trade, according to Kyler, who hears that the Rockets have been eyeing Ersan Ilyasova.
- Marcus Thornton and Jimmer Fredette are the Kings that Kyler keeps hearing in trade chatter, but there’s little market for either, he writes.
- Rival teams are getting the sense that the Pistons will stand pat at the deadline, which Kyler finds vexing.
- Sources close to the Raptors tell Kyler that their trade talk is simply due diligence, and that they’re only considering overwhelming offers.
Teams That Can’t Trade First-Round Picks
The trade deadline is two weeks and one day away, so there are plenty of ideas, proposals, and scenarios being bandied about between teams, reporters and fans alike. Not all of them are feasible. Many run afoul of the league’s salary-matching requirements, but others center on draft picks that teams are unable to convey.
Teams that have already traded their 2014 first-round picks aren’t the only ones that face restrictions. Thanks to the Ted Stepien Rule, a team can’t trade a 2014 first-round draft pick if it would leave the club without future first-rounders in consecutive years. So, a team without a 2015 first-rounder can’t trade its 2014 first-round choice. And if the protections attached to a pick carry through subsequent years, the earliest pick the team can trade would be for two years after the final year the traded pick could possibly be conveyed. So, if a 2014 pick is protected through 2017 and becomes unprotected for 2018, the team that owes the pick can’t deal a first-rounder for any year until 2020.
Teams can’t trade draft picks more than seven drafts in advance. So, this season, teams can trade picks for the 2020 draft, but not for the 2021 draft or any draft after that. A team may conditionally agree to send out a first-round draft pick that would be conveyed two years after its previous draft debt has been paid. As part of the Dwight Howard trade in the summer of 2012, the Lakers agreed to send a first-round pick to the Magic. Because there was a chance their previous obligation to the Suns might not be fulfilled until 2018, that meant Orlando might not have been in line to get its first-round pick until 2020, which was more than seven drafts ahead. The Lakers and Magic got around this by stipulating that instead of a first-round pick, the Lakers would send two second-rounders instead if the Suns didn’t get their first rounder in time.
So, teams this season with draft obligations that extend as late as 2019 or 2020 can trade first-round draft picks, but they can’t guarantee another team that the first-round pick will actually ever come. Another way a team with that sort of obligation can trade a first-rounder is if it acquires a first-round pick from another team. If the team that owes the pick that’s protected through 2017 has another first-round draft choice coming its way for 2014, it’s free to trade that 2014 pick.
Here’s a list of each team that can’t send a guaranteed 2014 first-round draft pick out via trade, with the year of the first such pick it can guarantee via trade in parentheses.
- Nets (2020): Brooklyn has already traded its 2014, 2016 and 2018 first-rounders.
- Mavericks (2020): Dallas has only traded a single pick, its 2014 selection, but the protections on it extend through 2017, and the selection becomes unprotected in 2018.
- Pistons (2018): The pick Detroit owes the Bobcats could go out anytime between 2014 and 2016.
- Warriors (2019): Golden State owes the Jazz its first-round picks in 2014 and 2017.
- Pacers (no first-rounder to spare): Indiana has only surrendered a single first-round pick, but the protections on the draft choice it sent to the Suns in the Luis Scola deal run through 2019, and it becomes unprotected in 2020.
- Clippers (2017): L.A. has its own first-round pick for 2014, but its 2015 first-rounder is ticketed for Boston thanks to the Doc Rivers deal.
- Lakers (no first-rounder to spare): Like their fellow Staples Center tenants, the Lakers have their own pick this year, but their 2015 and 2017 picks are spoken for. The 2017 pick is protected through 2018, and becomes unprotected in 2019.
- Grizzlies (no first-rounder to spare): The Grizzlies, too, have this year’s pick, but with their 2015 pick headed to the Cavs, their hands are tied thanks to the protections on the pick, which extend through 2018. It becomes unprotected in 2019.
- Heat (2019): The 2015 pick Miami owes the Cavs is protected through 2016 and becomes unprotected in 2017.
- Timberwolves (2018): The protections on the 2014 first-rounder that Minnesota owes the Suns go through 2016, but if it hasn’t been conveyed at that point, it turns into a pair of second-rounders.
- Pelicans (no first-rounder to spare): The protections on the pick New Orleans sent to the Sixers at last year’s draft run through 2019.
- Knicks (2018): New York owes its picks in 2014 and 2016.
- Trail Blazers (2018): The Blazers owe this year’s pick to the Bobcats, but the protections run through next year, and it could become unprotected in 2016.
- Kings (2019): The protections on this year’s first-rounder, which Sacramento owes to Chicago, run through 2017. If it hasn’t gone to the Bulls by then, it turns into a second-rounder.
- Wizards (no first-rounder to spare): Washington’s 2014 first-round pick could head to Phoenix anytime between now and 2020. The protections expire in 2019, and it would be unprotected in 2020.
RealGM.com was used in the creation of this post.
Latest On Suns, Lakers, Pau Gasol
8:10pm: The Lakers don’t believe that the talks with the Suns about Gasol are over, and discussions with Phoenix and other teams are expected to continue through February 20, tweets Ramona Shelburne of ESPN Los Angeles.
7:49pm: The Suns have halted talks with the Lakers regarding Gasol because L.A. reportedly wants too much in return, according to Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times. Of the four first-round picks that Phoenix could possibly own this year, the Lakers were said to have been pushing for either the pick owed from Minnesota (top 13-protected) or Washington (top 12-protected. The other two draft choices the Suns have at their disposal include their own (currently projected at 22nd overall) and Indiana’s (now 30th).
Talks could resume before the February 20 deadline, but there needs to be a compromise on which first round pick the Lakers would receive in a Gasol deal, tweets Bresnahan.
8:13am: The Lakers and Suns spoke again Monday about the idea of a swap of Pau Gasol for Emeka Okafor, but the Suns want to see how Gasol’s recovery from a strained groin progresses before furthering the talks, report Ramona Shelburne and Marc Stein of ESPNLosAngeles.com. The Spanish center is set to miss the next three games. If such a trade were to happen, it wouldn’t take the Lakers completely out of tax territory, so they’d insist on receiving draft picks or young players along with Okafor.
Still, the Lakers don’t feel they absolutely must avoid the tax this season, and even if they decide to do so, they believe trading Gasol isn’t their only path out of tax territory, as Shelburne and Stein write. That’s been their belief since last month, when they were involved in negotiations with the Cavs about trading for Andrew Bynum. The Lakers and Cavs have stayed in touch about Gasol in the time since, but there’s nothing imminent on that front, according to the ESPN report. The Lakers expect the market for Gasol to improve closer to the deadline, but they’re all right with holding on to him and retaining the flexibility that his nearly $19.3MM expiring contract will give them in the summer.
The Suns are willing to trade multiple 2014 first-round picks for a star player, but they realize such a talent is unlikely to become available before the deadline, Shelburne and Stein note. Thus, Gasol intrigues Phoenix, since he’s a veteran who could help the team’s playoff drive without cutting into this summer’s cap space.