Cavs Willing To Trade Andrew Wiggins For Love?

11:53pm: The Warriors are now willing to include Thompson in an offer for Love, reports Yannis Koutroupis of Basketball Insiders. With reports swirling that the Cavs will part with Wiggins, Golden State has given in on their refusal to include Thompson partly because they believe Love is willing to exercise his 2015/16 and in turn extend his stay in the Bay Area for at least two seasons. While no trade is imminent, Koutroupis still expects Harrison Barnes and David Lee to be part of the deal.

7:07pm: LeBron has reached out to Love to tell his former USA Basketball teammate that he’d like them to play together in Cleveland, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter).

5:52pm: Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio disputes the report that the Cavs have changed their stance on dealing Wiggins, writing that the sides are still not close to a deal for Love. Amico adds that the Cavs are still determined to keep the Kansas product for the foreseeable future and are weighing the caveats of having three max players against the benefits of having young, cheap talent like Wiggins, Bennett and Dion Waiters.

5:06pm: Warriors GM Bob Myers is the one among the team’s brass who’s most open to moving Thompson, while ownership, coach Steve Kerr and consultant Jerry West are resisting, tweets Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities.

4:59pm: There are no indications that the Warriors will up their bid for Love, a source tells Tim Kawakami of the Bay Area News Group (Twitter link). Ostensibly, that means that they’re still unwilling to include Klay Thompson in such a deal.

3:28pm: The Wolves and Cavs haven’t engaged in conversations of any substance about Wiggins just yet, but things appear to be picking up on multiple fronts, Krawczynski tweets.

2:31pm: The Cavs are OK with giving up Andrew Wiggins in a trade for Kevin Love, having changed their stance against dealing this year’s No. 1 overall pick away, a league source tells Bob Finnan of The News-Herald. The Wolves have reportedly insisted that Wiggins be a part of any deal for the All-Star power forward. The Cavs apparently told Wiggins he wouldn’t be moved, but it seems any such promise might not hold water.

The latest proposal appears to involve Wiggins, Anthony Bennett and a first-round pick, and perhaps Brendan Haywood, too, Finnan writes. Minnesota reportedly quickly rebuffed an earlier package of Waiters, Bennett and a first-rounder.

LeBron James wants the Cavs to acquire Love, a source tells Finnan. The idea of playing with the four-time MVP continues to intrigue Love, who said before James signed with the Cavs that he’d be “100%” on board with staying long-term in Cleveland if James were there, too. Love can opt out of his contract and become a free agent next summer.

The Wolves maintain that they ultimately don’t have to trade Love, even as rival GMs perceive that stance as a bluff, tweets Jon Krawczynski of The Associated Press. Some within the Wolves would prefer to see Love walk next summer, giving Minnesota cap flexibility, over a trade in which they would end up with mid-tier contracts in return, according to Steve Aschburner of NBA.com.

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

All of you saying the Timberwolves had no “leverage” and Flip Saunders had waited too long and should just trade Love for whatever he could get now? Better start preparing to eat crow.

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Doms
2 years 1 month ago

If it weren’t for lebron they wouldn’t be getting a wiggins type package.

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

And your point is?

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Doms
2 years 1 month ago

Without lebron the wolves have no leverage. Everything had to fall into place for Minnesota to get any kinda leverage

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

Um, yeah. But people have been saying the Wolves have no leverage over the past few days. Way after LeBron agreed to return to Cleveland. Obviously this is because of LeBron’s decision because trade talks quickly fell apart before the draft when Love said he was unwilling to sign a long-term deal in Cleveland at that time.

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BLB25
2 years 1 month ago

they still don’t have any leverage. That’s not why they might get Wiggins.

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

Actually, LeBron wanting Love gives them plenty of leverage.

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jason m.
2 years 1 month ago

Wow… just wait one season.. then get love for nothing..

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

LeBron wants him. He generally gets what he wants. Or he will probably just decide to leave Cleveland again after this season.

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Manchershaw Engineer
2 years 1 month ago

They won’t have cap space. It’s trade or watch him go somewhere else.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

that would be a horrible deal for the Cavs

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

Long term, yes. But I think they win that deal in the short term.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

I personally wouldnt trade Wiggins for Love. Then to add another young asset like Bennett, also on a rookie scale deal, plus a 1st round pick, plus the flexibility of Haywood’s contract…Thats ridiculous, especially for a guy that can walk in a year, and doesnt significantly change their aspirations for this year anyway

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

If they make the trade, it will be because Love has agreed to an extension. So no worries about him walking after a year. And it definitely changes their aspirations for this year. They can win a title this upcoming season with LeBron, Love and Irving. I don’t see how they can with what they have now.

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BLB25
2 years 1 month ago

Love will only verbally commit to an extension, he can’t actually sign one right now, or as soon as he’s traded, without sacrificing money. The team that gets him will acquire his Bird Rights so its pretty likely he stays in Cleveland, but there will be no trade contingent on extension.

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buffalonichols
2 years 1 month ago

Not true. There are limits, but you can do an extend and trade. It was done with KG in 2007 and with Carmelo in 2011. link to cbafaq.com...

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

who plays defense on that team? Who guards the PG spot? Who protects the rim?

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Bernaldo
2 years 1 month ago

Any trade is contingent on a commitment from Love to sign an extension. It seems pretty clear that LeBron James wants to Cavs to move into a “win now” mode. Wiggins may turn out to be a great player but he won’t help the Cavs nearly as much as Love. And, Love is just 25. He give the Cavs that stretch four and rebounder that is critical and give the Cave something that Wiggins can’t.
The Cavs knew when LeBron James decided to come home that they were going to have to put a championship caliber around… Read more »

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BLB25
2 years 1 month ago

I agree with all but the very last part of that. Love dramatically changes their outlook for this current season. I still don’t think that trade is worth it right now because I think you can get Love or another star within the next 11 months without sacrificing Wiggins, but lets not underrate Love.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

I’m not underrating Love. I know how good of a player he is. I know he fits with LeBron James. I just dont think he fits on this particular Cavs team

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legaryd
2 years 1 month ago

Two #1 overall picks for Love plus another first-round pick for one year of control?!?! That’s just crazy. Go get DeMarcus Cousins, Al Horford, Al Jefferson, LaMarcus Aldridge. All will be half that price for a nearly as good of a player.

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Kevin6CD
2 years 1 month ago

You’re overvaluing Bennett by simply referring to him as a “#1 overall pick”. He was far from that value last season, and despite the improvements he’s shown in the LVSL and the weight loss, he’s far from a sure thing. Also, that other first-round pick is probably going to be in the 27-30 range. Wiggins and pieces, is basically what the trade would be.

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Manchershaw Engineer
2 years 1 month ago

Bennet has very little value other than salary filler, he’s more a project than a prospect at this point. As good as Wiggins is going to be, Kevin Love is on his own planet talent wise with the likes of Lebron and Durant.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

In what UNIVERSE is Kevin Love anywhere close to the all around players that LeBron and KD are?!

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Manchershaw Engineer
2 years 1 month ago

One based on statistics? Heck, look at PER. This year, it was Durant, Lebron, and Love. Then everybody else.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

What those guys do on both sides of the ball cant be quantified by PER. Kevin Love isnt near the defender that either of those guys are

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Manchershaw Engineer
2 years 1 month ago

He’s not a bad defender either though. The position scarcity should bump up Love as well. There’s a lot more swing players capable of a high PER than there are big men.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

what? You do know that PER is geared towards big men right?

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Manchershaw Engineer
2 years 1 month ago

No, it’s geared towards complete players. Saying it’s geared towards one position or another shows a total lack of understanding of the statistic.

For the record, the top ten in per include 4 pf/c’s, which is exactly what one would expect.

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TheNextEpstein
2 years 1 month ago

I still think the best thing the Cavs can do is wait. Take a look at how Wiggins Lebron and Kyrie mesh and see just how good Wiggins is. Love will still be available if they aren’t convinced Wiggins is the right fit.

Giving up Bennett, Wiggins, Haywood, and a first is overkill. Give it time and the closer it gets to next season the more leverage the Cavs will have.

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Randolph_Knackstedt
2 years 1 month ago

The TWolves are in a good place imo. All they had to do is wait it out. Teams like the Warriors and Cavs are trying to give up as little as possible to acquire Love. That’s understandable. Why would they offer Klay Thompson or Wiggins right off the bat when maybe they could acquire Love without giving up these players? The TWolves have held their ground and it looks like it might pay off. The TWolves could wait until the season’s deadline if need be.

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yuck_foo
2 years 1 month ago

Poor Wiggins…First Shabazz now Wiggins, King A-Hole James’ ego does not sit well with rookies.

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Zak Arn
2 years 1 month ago

Wow FAIL. They have enough cap space to sign him out-right next season, and they have ZERO competition from any other team because Love wants to play with LeBron. The reason the Heat became a bad option was because they had no depth, so why trade away the depth and future depth (picks).

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Bill Boo
2 years 1 month ago

They do not have the cap space next summer to sign him

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Zak Arn
2 years 1 month ago

Between Bennett non-guaranteed, Haywood can waive or use in sign & trade next year and it goes from 10.5 to 15.5 space, and Felix .9 non guaranteed they’ll be about 20-25MM cap space in the projected 66.5 2015-16 cap.

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Christian R
2 years 1 month ago

A coinciding Lenny Wilkens and Lebron miniaturize the probability of error.
Cavs’ fans are in for great basketball.

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Z....
2 years 1 month ago

I think Wiggins needs to be a part of Cleveland’s next contending team. Obviously, he still has a lot of room to grow, but I would bet on him having a better chance to reach his potential playing with LeBron James. He is an elite athlete, and the Cavs need to hold onto that for multiple reasons, including the fact that nobody on their roster besides LeBron James plays defense. I also dont think that a Cavs team with LeBron, Love, and Irving is a clear championship favorite, so the risk of losing Wiggins just doesnt seem worth taking, especially… Read more »

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