Community Shootaround: No. 3 Pick

If LSU’s Ben Simmons and Duke’s Brandon Ingram are clearly the best two prospects in this year’s draft, then the Sixers and Lakers were the big winners at Tuesday’s lottery. Mock drafts may be split over whether Simmons or Ingram will be the better pro, but they virtually all agree that those will be the top two picks — in one order or the other.

So where does that leave the Celtics?

Boston is beginning to reap the harvest of a nine-player trade with Brooklyn in 2013 that saw the Nets give away a parcel of draft picks for aging veterans Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Jason Terry. It was a short-sighted deal by Brooklyn GM Billy King that eventually cost him his job as the franchise deteriorated. Boston will get unprotected first-round picks from the Nets this year and in 2018, along with the opportunity — which now seems like a certainty — to swap first-rounders next season. Brooklyn stumbled to a 21-61 record this year, the third-worst mark in the league, and the Celtics hung on to the third pick Tuesday after all the ping-pong balls dropped.

What should their next move be?

ESPN’s Chad Ford has Boston grabbing Kentucky combo guard Jamal Murray at No. 3 in his latest mock draft, calling it a tough choice between him, Kris Dunn of Providence and Buddy Hield of Oklahoma. Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress has Dragan Bender, a power forward out of Bosnia, rated third overall, but hasn’t updated his mock draft to include the lottery results or to consider team needs.

It’s generally agreed that apart from diminutive All-Star Isaiah Thomas, Boston has a roster filled with average to good players but very little star power. With Thomas, Marcus Smart and Avery Bradley on hand and the possible return of Evan Turner, any rookie guard will have to fight for playing time in the Celtics’ backcourt.

That brings us to tonight’s question: What should the Celtics do with their pick? Is Murray the best answer? Is Dunn, Hield or Bender? Or if you think a trade is a better option, who should they target and what would it take to get a deal done?

Take to the comments section below to share your thoughts and opinions on the topic. We look forward to what you have to say.

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MillyGOAT
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MillyGOAT
4 months 6 days ago

I would just reach for Jaylen Brown, kid can get buckets and the rest of his game will develop. Hes a perfect person to plug in at SF that can put up numbers on the scoreboard

123Redsox
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123Redsox
4 months 5 days ago

Brown can’t shoot and doesn’t handle the ball well on the wing. The celtics like ball handling wings and are in the market for shooting. Dunn and Murray would be better fits

Junkard Dog
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Junkard Dog
4 months 6 days ago

Trade for kyrie irving

Bbone34
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Bbone34
4 months 6 days ago

You’re delusional

J
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J
4 months 6 days ago

Oddly Ric Bucher actually floated that idea if the Cavs don’t win the championship. #3 IT and a few more pieces was his suggestion.

JT19
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JT19
4 months 6 days ago

That’s assuming the Cavs like someone at 3. If they aren’t a fan of a prospect around that range, the pick becomes less valuable. Also I’d imagine the Cavs would rather trade Love first before Kyrie.

Bbone34
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Bbone34
3 months 28 days ago

Yeah I saw that. He’s delusional too

Ryan
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Ryan
4 months 6 days ago
The key is going to find a trade partner who’s convinced they HAVE to trade up to the third spot to get their guy. Trading back to 4-8 allows the Cs to get an equivalent quality guy and add another asset to their war chest. When you’re big game hunting, you can never have enough ammmo so even if it’s addicting a future pick, player, whatever, there’s value. I personally think Jamal Murray is going to be a stud and is what’s quickly becoming the ideal NBA guard. Plus, he just turned 19. That’s matters. Dunn and Hield are not… Read more »
Drew
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Drew
4 months 6 days ago

3/34/51/2018 lottery protected pick/hunter/Young

For

WCS and 8

Draft Brown

Trade 16/23/31/58 for Valentine

Pgs Thomas and Smart
Sg-Bradley and Valentine
Sfs Crowder and brown
Pfs Sullinger and Jerebko
Cs WCS and Johnson

Grant Weddle
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Grant Weddle
4 months 5 days ago

Yeah I don’t think you understand how the draft works. The 3 alone could get WCS and 8 plus probably McElmore and a future pic. Don’t need to trade any of the rest. Second when you draft someone like Valentine at 16 you don’t just give up all your next picks. This is by far the worst trade attempt I have seen

JT19
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JT19
4 months 5 days ago
The #3 alone would not get WCS, #8, and McLemore. Unless Sacramento is absolutely in love with someone at #3 and they’re somewhat confident he wouldn’t be there at #8, that would be a huge overpay. They aren’t giving up two young rotation players and a lottery pick for a slightly better lottery pick…especially when the draft, after Simmons and Ingram, becomes two graduating senior rotation players (Hield, Dunn), an overseas project (Bender), and a bunch of other guys who could easily go anywhere in the lottery. Point is, after Simmons and Ingram, there isn’t anyone else that jumps off… Read more »
GabeOfThrones
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GabeOfThrones
4 months 5 days ago

Now we know what Billy King’s been up to…

J
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J
4 months 6 days ago

Try like heck to convince Philly that Simmons and Dunn or Murray is better than Simmons and Okafor. If we can get Okafor for the #3 pick I’m all for it. I don’t think we can make a palatable deal for Cousins or Butler.

JT19
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JT19
4 months 6 days ago

That’s actually not a bad idea. Would allow the 76ers to draft whoever they want at the top spot and still fill their hole at PG. Celtics would get the big they’ve been craving for a while now. While I think the value is about spot on (Okafor would probably go in the 1-3 range if he was in this draft), the Celtics will probably want more back in return (role player/future picks) considering they’d be helping a division rival.

MILTON
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MILTON
4 months 5 days ago

Same as i said philly has to give up another pick or player ( dario saric) if they want dunn at 3 and they can have james young also

JT19
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JT19
4 months 5 days ago

Saric is probably a bit much considering his potential. Saric and Okafor > #3 pick

hill
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hill
4 months 5 days ago

But the C’s could get Greg Monroe for less and he’s young, more efficient and a good chemistry guy.

JT19
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JT19
4 months 5 days ago
Okafor is younger and only had one year on a terrible team that needed him to score (which explains his inefficient season). They’re very similar players in that they are big men (although Okafor is probably more suited for the center spot while Monroe is probably more suited for the power foward spot) who are good offensive players and rebounders, but don’t provide much rim protection. You know what you’re going to get with Monroe (as you kind of alluded to) but Okafor has the potential to be better. The Celtics could definetly get Monroe for less (probably one of… Read more »
D
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D
4 months 5 days ago

I thought the same and think it’s not a hard sell, it makes sense for both teams. There may need to be some other pieces involved but it’s a good basis for a mutually beneficial trade

ITrustedTheProcess
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ITrustedTheProcess
4 months 5 days ago
You’re delusional if you think #3 gets you Okafor. #3 + one of Bradley/Smart/Young gets the conversation going. Neither team has any use for good-but-not-great players. Sixers because they need to form an identity before shaping the team; Celtics because they are full of them. Okafor is the only player in the C’s current war chest of assets (aside from Nets picks) that has the chance to be great. IT is very good (not the argument I’m trying to make). Point is, if you are acquiring the best player in a trade Okafor >>>> #3 you have to give up… Read more »
JT19
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JT19
4 months 5 days ago
Totally agree that the Celtics would have to give up a little more, but besides the fit for them, the #3 pick would benefit the 76ers because they could finally get their point guard. The 76ers might be willing to take a package that is perceived as not being equal if they feel that one of Murray/Dunn is exactly the type of guy they need and could end up benefitting them more in the long run. I think the 76ers would jump at a chance to get the #3 pick Young/Hunter/Olynyk for Okafor or Noel. This all depends on how… Read more »
Bbone34
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Bbone34
4 months 6 days ago

If there isn’t a trade available for a star or to move up to 1 or 2 the pick should be Hield. He’s immediate help on offense. I think the improving thing is overrated, he’ll continue to improve his shot along with everything else. He has a good attitude and relatively good size for what the Celtics have at guard

Scott
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Scott
4 months 6 days ago
I think need to look hard at trading the pick and hope there is a taker. I know Butler has been mentioned, but I wonder how willing the Bulls are to move him. I’d think it would have to start with the #3, #16, Bradley, and one or two future 1st round picks. Could throw in one or two of their 2nd rounders this year too just for fun. If they can’t find a take, then they could look to draft Dunn, then move Smart to Sacramento and hope Brown falls to them at 8. Should have other good players… Read more »
lakersfan27
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lakersfan27
4 months 5 days ago

I don’t see them giving the pick away for a PG who can’t shoot.

JT19
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JT19
4 months 6 days ago

I’m not sold on Murray being a good fit next to Thomas. Hield would probably be the perfect player for them to draft, but 3rd overall is probably a little high for him. If I was the Celtics I’d look to trade back no further than 7th. Could get Hield plus some future draft capital/role players.

mikey
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mikey
4 months 6 days ago

I don’t get why they aren’t looking at big men more. There are rumors for Dunn, Murray, and Hield but they are fine in the backcourt. If they don’t like any bigmen then they should trade the pick for a big man like love, okafor, or someone else.

JT19
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JT19
4 months 5 days ago

There aren’t any solid big men worth drafting at 3. As you go further into the lottery, then other guys start to make sense but a big man (outside of Simmons if you want to consider him one) at #3 is a reach.

Woods
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Woods
4 months 5 days ago

If you keep the pick, I like Jamal Murray’s game, but I don’t know if he would fit with the Celtics current players.

A trade scenario that I think could help both teams would be to target a trade with Milwaukee who desperately needs a PG. Trade #3, #16, and Crowder for Jabari Parker and #10. Bucks get Dunn to pair with Middleton, Giannis, and Monroe if they keep him. I’d like to see the Celtics pick up Valentine at the #10 spot.

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