Pacers Rumors

Pacers Sign Hilton Armstrong

The Pacers have added one more player to their training camp roster, officially signing Hilton Armstrong, according to Scott Agness of Pacers.com (Twitter link). The move increases the club's camp roster to 17 players.

Armstrong, 28, hasn't appeared in an NBA game since prior to the lockout, when he finished the 2010/11 season with the Hawks. Since then, the former UConn big man has played in France and Greece, and joined the D-League's Santa Cruz Warriors last season. In 29 games with the team, Armstrong averaged 13.4 PPG and 6.8 RPG.

Along with the 13 players the Pacers have on guaranteed contracts, the team is also bringing Armstrong, Ron Howard, Darnell Jackson, and Rasual Butler to camp. It's not clear whether the Pacers will carry a full 15-man roster into the season, but if they do, Armstrong should get a chance to try to earn a spot on the bench behind Roy Hibbert and Ian Mahinmi.

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Odds & Ends: Bibby, Graham, Kuester

According to Jared Zwerling of Bleacher Report, Mike Bibby – who is reportedly well-liked by Spurs coach Gregg Popovich - was invited to San Antonio's training camp and had a good chance of making the team. However, the veteran guard now won't be able to attend because of a foot/heel injury (Twitter link). It's been a bit of a Jazz fest as far as news goes this evening, but here are some other noteworthy links we've gathered up from around the Association:

  • Bradford Doolittle of ESPN.com ranks the league's top ten frontcourts (Insiders only). 
  • Stephen Graham could possibly have an invitation to participate in Bucks camp this fall (Gery Woelfel of the Racine Journal Times via Twitter). There hasn't been any further mention of an official invitation, but we'll look to relay any updates as they surface. 
  • 76ers rookie head coach Brett Brown doesn't feel inclined to bring along a former head coach as an assistant, notes Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer“I don’t feel with this team that it’s mandatory that I have to surround myself with perspective or wisdom or, you know, an Owl that’s been there, done that…I feel that this year’s team is about development. And I feel like it’s about … teaching, relationships and energy more than NBA wisdom."
  • Former Pistons head coach and Lakers assistant John Kuester, however, has been rumored to be a potential candidate for Brown's coaching staff in Philadelphia.
  • The Score's Mark Deeks discusses Paul George's max contract extension as well as a potential one for Kings center DeMarcus Cousins. While Deeks understands the logic behind securing George for the long term, he feels that offering the same type of deal to Cousins would be an enormous gamble. 

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Eastern Notes: Bosh, Wizards, Bucks, George

With the NBA preseason nearly right around the corner, let's catch up on a few miscellaneous items from around the Eastern Conference….

  • Chris Bosh tells Shandel Richardson of the South Florida Sun Sentinel that he's better equipped to handle free agency now than he was back in 2010. Bosh will be eligible to opt out of his contract next summer, but the big man suggests that if the Heat win another title next spring, he, LeBron James, or Dwyane Wade probably aren't going anywhere.
  • Using the Wizards and Bucks as a couple of case studies, Mark Deeks of SBNation.com explains how not to not rebuild in the NBA.
  • Asked by WUSA's Dave Owens whether GM Ernie Grunfeld is "on the hot seat" heading into this season, Wizards owner Ted Leonsis was noncommital in his reply (link via the Washington Post). "We’re all on the hot seat," Leonsis said. "I’m on the hot seat. If the ratings aren’t good, you’ll be on the hot seat, too. I mean, we live in very accountable businesses, and we’re all accountable."
  • Paul George's max extension will limit the Pacers' flexibility for the next couple seasons, as Michael Pointer of the Indianapolis Star writes, which doesn't bode well for the odds of Lance Stephenson and Danny Granger remaining in Indiana beyond 2014. Pointer also notes that the fifth year of George's new deal is a player option.
  • In a piece for HoopsHype, Charley Rosen considers whether or not George is worth a five-year max extension.

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Pacers Sign Paul George To Five-Year Max Deal

WEDNESDAY, 9:53am: The Pacers have officially announced George's contract extension in a press release. For a breakdown on what the specifics of the deal should look like, check out our write-up from Monday.

TUESDAY, 3:46pm: George and the Pacers have finalized an agreement, and will make it official tomorrow, tweets Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star. The team has sent out a press release announcing an 11:00am press conference.

MONDAY, 1:15pm: While George has been talking about his extension as if it's a done deal, Pacers president Larry Bird tells Michael Pointer of the Indianapolis Star that it's close, but not quite finished.

"That’s why I’m not playing golf today," Bird told Pointer, during an appearance before a Pacers Foundation golf outing at Brickyard Crossing. "I’m going back to the office to work on it."

Even as Bird pumps the brakes a little, it sounds to me as if it will just be a matter of days before we hear an official announcement from the team.

SUNDAY, 9:21pm: The Pacers and Paul George are finalizing a five-year deal worth more than $90MM, league sources told Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears of Yahoo Sports.  George is represented by Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports, according to the Hoops Rumors Agency Database.

George, 23, was scheduled to become a restricted free agent following the conclusion of the 2013/14 season.  While there wasn't a ton of concern that George would flee the Pacers, fans were able to breathe even easier thanks to the star's comments over the summer.  Last week, George said point blank that a contract extension was "going to get done" between him and the club.

The forward was named the NBA's Most Improved Player for 2012/13, when he set career-highs in PPG (17.4), RPG (7.6), PER (16.8), and several other categories. He also helped lead the Pacers to within one game of the NBA Finals, even without the services of Danny Granger.

George boosted his scoring average from 17.0 PPG in the regular season to 19.2 PPG during the Pacers' playoff run.  He made himself a household name in the postseason and he could make himself known even more on a global scale if he's part of USA Basketball's 2014 team and the 2016 Olympic team in Brazil.

With George under contract for the forseeable future, the Pacers can now turn their focus to finishing what they started last season.  George will spearhead an improved team this season that will feature a healthy Granger and an improved bench with offseason additions Luis Scola and Chris Copeland off the bench.

Indiana re-signed David West to a three-year, $36MM extension in July and locked up Roy Hibbert with a four-year, $58MM deal last summer.  The Pacers had until October 31st to hammer something out with George, but it looks like they can use the next few weeks to go candy shopping instead.

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Central Notes: Granger, Thibodeau, Pistons

A few notes from around the Central Division.

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Pacers, Paul George Finalizing $90MM+ Deal

MONDAY, 1:15pm: While George has been talking about his extension as if it's a done deal, Pacers president Larry Bird tells Michael Pointer of the Indianapolis Star that it's close, but not quite finished.

"That’s why I’m not playing golf today," Bird told Pointer, during an appearance before a Pacers Foundation golf outing at Brickyard Crossing. "I’m going back to the office to work on it."

Even as Bird pumps the brakes a little, it sounds to me as if it will just be a matter of days before we hear an official announcement from the team.

SUNDAY, 9:21pm: The Pacers and Paul George are finalizing a five-year deal worth more than $90MM, league sources told Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears of Yahoo Sports.  George is represented by Aaron Mintz of CAA Sports, according to the Hoops Rumors Agency Database.

George, 23, was scheduled to become a restricted free agent following the conclusion of the 2013/14 season.  While there wasn't a ton of concern that George would flee the Pacers, fans were able to breathe even easier thanks to the star's comments over the summer.  Last week, George said point blank that a contract extension was "going to get done" between him and the club.

The forward was named the NBA's Most Improved Player for 2012/13, when he set career-highs in PPG (17.4), RPG (7.6), PER (16.8), and several other categories. He also helped lead the Pacers to within one game of the NBA Finals, even without the services of Danny Granger.

George boosted his scoring average from 17.0 PPG in the regular season to 19.2 PPG during the Pacers' playoff run.  He made himself a household name in the postseason and he could make himself known even more on a global scale if he's part of USA Basketball's 2014 team and the 2016 Olympic team in Brazil.

With George under contract for the forseeable future, the Pacers can now turn their focus to finishing what they started last season.  George will spearhead an improved team this season that will feature a healthy Granger and an improved bench with offseason additions Luis Scola and Chris Copeland off the bench.

Indiana re-signed David West to a three-year, $36MM extension in July and locked up Roy Hibbert with a four-year, $58MM deal last summer.  The Pacers had until October 31st to hammer something out with George, but it looks like they can use the next few weeks to go candy shopping instead.

Examining A Max Extension For Paul George

Word broke yesterday that the Pacers and Paul George are putting the finishing touches on a five-year, max extension for the rising star, a deal that should be done well before the regular season gets underway. Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports reported that George's new contract is expected to be worth more than $90MM, a figure that's noteworthy for a couple reasons.

First, given the fact that the small-market Pacers were willing to work out an extension rather than taking their chances in restricted free agency, where they'd still have a final say in the process, I assumed George would take a modest discount, and sign for slightly less than the max. When I posed the question in a poll last week, I predicted that he'd land a five-year contract worth in the neighborhood of $70MM, while most of you correctly predicted he'd get a five-year max instead.

There doesn't seem to be much incentive for the Pacers to get a deal done so early if they're willing to commit the most possible money to George. The team could do that at any point, and it would be a safer bet to do so next summer. Then, if George were to suffer a serious injury or a dip in production during the 2013/14, Indiana wouldn't already be on the hook for that five-year max.

Still, by finalizing a deal early, the team is sending a signal to George that he'll be the centerpiece in Indiana for the next several years. That emotional factor is one that Mark Deeks of SBNation.com wrote about last week, and it shouldn't be understated.

However, there's likely a more significant factor in play in extension negotiations between the two sides. As Chuck Myron of Hoops Rumors wrote when he examined George as an extension candidate, it behooves the 23-year-old to ink a max extension before Halloween because it makes him eligible for the Derrick Rose Rule, a wrinkle in the CBA that allows players with less than seven years of experience to receive a salary worth 30% of the cap instead of 25%.

In order to qualify for that 30% max, a player signing a rookie-scale extension must achieve one of the following during his first four NBA seasons:

  • Win the MVP award.
  • Make an All-NBA team twice.
  • Make the All-Star Game as a starter via fan balloting twice.

George has yet to be voted an All-Star starter, so unlike Blake Griffin a year ago, he can't qualify for the Rose Rule max that way. And unlike Rose himself, George seems unlikely to win the MVP award while on his rookie contract. But George has a realistic route to the 30% max by making another All-NBA team, after being named a Third Team All-NBA player in 2012/13.

Griffin's and James Harden's new contracts, which will take effect in 2013/14, show that the difference between the 25% max and 30% max becomes significant over the course of an extension. Here's how those max deals break down:

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The NBA's maximum salaries will increase next season, meaning that even if George only receives the 25% max, his overall salary will still be higher than Harden's; if he earns the 30% max, he'll earn more than Griffin. But the $90MM+ figure reported by Wojnarowski and Spears appears to assume that George will qualify for the Rose max. After all, in order for a player to make $90MM+ on the 25% max, the league's max salaries would have to increase by nearly 15%, which seems like an unrealistic jump, considering they only increased by about 1% this past year.

So when you hear George's extension being reported as a $90MM+ deal over the next few days, take that figure with a grain of salt. We won't know the exact numbers until next July, and George's ability to repeat his All-NBA 2012/13 season figures to dictate whether he actually qualifies for the sort of max extension that would take the overall value beyond $90MM.

Central Notes: Pacers, Watson, Rose, Bulls

Here's a quick look at the Central Division..

  • The HoopsWorld staff previewed the season ahead for the Pacers.  In the estimation of Joel Brigham, Indiana's best offseason addition was guard C.J. Watson.  Even though George Hill has done better at point guard than most expected, it will benefit them to have a more traditional one-guard, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.
  • Former MVP Derrick Rose is ready to lead the Bulls once again, the Associated Press writes.  The guard will step on to the court after a lengthy absence, but he says he has no doubts about being able to get back to top form.  "I put so much into my craft," he said. "I'm working hard. I think I'm one of the hardest workers in the NBA, if not the hardest worker. I think you should see it in my game when I step on the court."
  • Earlier today, Chuck Myron checked in on former Cavaliers guard Daniel Gibson in the latest installment of Free Agent Stock Watch.

Eastern Rumors: George, Pierce, Celtics

Paul George informed Michael Pointer of the Indianapolis Star this week that he's certain he'll sign an extension with the Pacers, and George's comments in Pointer's latest piece make the deal sound like a fait accompli

"It’s almost like now that I have this contract, I’ve got to do more work," George said."I’ve got to go out and play at the level the guys that are making this much money are playing at."

Andrew Perna of RealGM.com cautions that there's no deal yet (on Twitter), so we'll have to wait awhile longer to see whether the player that an overwhelming majority of Hoops Rumors readers believe will be the next to sign a rookie-scale extension actually ends up signing one. Here's more from the Eastern Conference:

  • Paul Pierce tells Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe that he doesn't think the Celtics will continue to have the trouble they've always had attracting free agents. "The city of Boston has changed so much since I’ve been here," Pierce said. "There are so many more things to do and the city has grown. I think it would be a great place to play."
  • Pierce isn't upset with the Celtics for trading him, and he can envision himself working for the C's once his playing days are over, as he also says to Washburn.
  • Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel discusses the false hope that cap space gives some teams and addresses Heat-related issues in his mailbag column, while Doug Smith of the Toronto Star gives the Raptors the mailbag treatment in his latest dispatch. 

Poll: Which Player Deserves Max Extension More?

We presented Hoops Rumors readers yesterday with a variety of values for a contract extension between the Pacers and Paul George, and asked which was the most likely result. More voters chose the five-year maximum-salary option than any other scenario. Such a deal would put him on par with John Wall, who maxed out with the Wizards in July. 

George had a breakout season last year and led the Pacers to within a game of the NBA Finals. Wall has never made the playoffs and only played 49 games last season after injury delayed his start, but he finished strong and clearly won over Wizards ownership. Their basic statistics are rather similar. George averaged 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists last season, while Wall put up 18.5 PPG, 4.0 RPG and 7.6 APG. George had the greater defensive impact for his team in terms of points allowed per 100 possessions, while Wall's 20.8 PER displays significantly more efficiency than George 16.8 PER.

Wall's already got his five-year max deal, and George is perhaps soon to follow. Regardless of how much George winds up with, do you think he's more deserving of the max than Wall is? Let us know with a vote, and share more on the subject in the comments.