Paul George

Poll: Which Player Deserves Max Extension More?

We presented Hoops Rumors readers yesterday with a variety of values for a contract extension between the Pacers and Paul George, and asked which was the most likely result. More voters chose the five-year maximum-salary option than any other scenario. Such a deal would put him on par with John Wall, who maxed out with the Wizards in July. 

George had a breakout season last year and led the Pacers to within a game of the NBA Finals. Wall has never made the playoffs and only played 49 games last season after injury delayed his start, but he finished strong and clearly won over Wizards ownership. Their basic statistics are rather similar. George averaged 17.4 points, 7.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists last season, while Wall put up 18.5 PPG, 4.0 RPG and 7.6 APG. George had the greater defensive impact for his team in terms of points allowed per 100 possessions, while Wall's 20.8 PER displays significantly more efficiency than George 16.8 PER.

Wall's already got his five-year max deal, and George is perhaps soon to follow. Regardless of how much George winds up with, do you think he's more deserving of the max than Wall is? Let us know with a vote, and share more on the subject in the comments.

Poll: Which Player Deserves Max Extension More?
Paul George 64.30% (317 votes)
They're both equally deserving or undeserving 23.53% (116 votes)
John Wall 12.17% (60 votes)
Total Votes: 493

Poll: Will Paul George Sign A Max Extension?

While there were a few rumors linking Paul George to the Lakers earlier this offseason, that always seemed to be wishful thinking on the part of L.A. fans, rather than a realistic scenario. Even if he were to hit the open market next summer, George would be a restricted free agent, meaning the Pacers could match any offer sheet he signs. And with Danny Granger's big contract set to come off the books in 2014, there's no reason why Indiana wouldn't have matched any offer for George.

However, it looks like it won't even come to that. George recently indicated that he plans to ink a new long-term extension with the Pacers before the season begins. The two sides are still negotiating, but they appear on track to get something done before the Halloween deadline.

The question now becomes what sort of deal George will sign. The rising star was named the league's Most Improved Player this past spring, and at age 23, there's still plenty of room for further growth. I'd be a little surprised if he ever won an MVP award, but when we posed that question in a June poll, over 38% of the respondents said they believe he'll earn that honor at some point — those results at least show that it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

In other words, in a league where Eric Gordon receives a maximum-salary contract offer coming off an injury-plagued season, there's little doubt that George would receive the same sort of offer as a free agent. But will the small-market Pacers be willing to guarantee him that much money ahead of free agency? If so, you might assume the two sides would've already finalized an agreement. After all, it didn't take long for John Wall to ink his maximum-salary extension with the Wizards. A year ago, Blake Griffin signed his max deal with the Clippers as soon as free agency opened, and James Harden finalized his own max extension with the Rockets immediately after the team acquired him.

Of course, money likely won't be the only sticking point in contract talks. The Pacers will also have the option of offering George a five-year extension, making him the franchise's designated player. As we explain in our glossary entry on designated players, that means the team couldn't give a five-year rookie-scale extension to another player during the duration of George's new contract.

At this point, there are no candidates for that designated player tag on the Pacers' roster besides George, unless Solomon Hill is a lot better than we think. So my guess is that Indiana gives George that fifth year, and he compromises by agreeing to sign for a little less than the max — perhaps something in the five-year, $70MM range gets it done.

As we wait to see what sort of compromises the two sides are willing to make, let's get your thoughts. Where do you think George and the Pacers will eventually land?

What sort of extension will Paul George sign?
Five-year max 46.47% (191 votes)
Four-year max 21.65% (89 votes)
Five years, less than the max 16.06% (66 votes)
Four years, less than the max 9.98% (41 votes)
No extension this fall 5.84% (24 votes)
Total Votes: 411

Eastern Notes: George, Pacers, Deng

Hoopsworld's Yannis Koutroupis explores the possible implications from a potential contract extension for Paul George and suggests that Danny Granger has now become an expendable piece. Losing Lance Stephenson - who is coming off of a career year and may have likely played himself out of Indiana's price range next summer – would be a bitter pill to swallow, opines Koutroupis. Here's more out of the Eastern Conference: 

  • Granger believes that Indiana can contend for a title next season and calls the addition of Luis Scola "our biggest free agent pickup" (Scott Agness of NBA.com). 
  • ESPN's Chad Ford (via Twitter) notes that Luol Deng has been working out at BYU-Hawaii over the last several weeks and says that the Bulls forward appears to be in fantastic shape.
  • Erildas Budraitis of RealGM catches up with CSKA Moscow's Jeremy Pargo, who last played for the 76ers and Cavaliers during the 2012/13 season.  The 6'2" point guard admitted that he probably won't think of returning to the NBA for another one or two years and calls his exit from Cleveland "unfortunate."
  • Earlier today, Yahoo's Marc J. Spears reported that Cavs number one overall pick Anthony Bennett resumed playing five-on-five basketball this week. 
  • Nets star Deron Williams is even more eager to get the season started after hearing head coach Jason Kidd and teammate Jason Terry say they expect him to be a part of the MVP conversation in 2013/14 (link via Jared Zwerling of Bleacher Report). 
  • Despite NBA commissioner David Stern's recent efforts to quell tension between the Knicks and Nets owners, the players don't seem to be necessarily following suit. When Paul Pierce was asked today about J.R. Smith calling him a bitter person recently, the Brooklyn forward tersely responded with "Who? Who are we talking about right now? Exactly" (Tim Bontempts of the New York Post). 

Paul George Plans To Sign Extension With Pacers

The Pacers have until October 31st to reach an agreement on a new contract for Paul George, avoiding going through the process of restricted free agency next summer. And according to George, he and the team plan to work out an extension by that Halloween deadline.

"[A long-term contract] is going to get done," George told Michael Pointer of the Indianapolis Star. "There will be a deal signed and sealed on the table before the season. We’re on the same page."

Pacers president Larry Bird also expressed optimism this week about getting something done before the season, according to Pointer. Bird noted that it would remove a potential distraction from the equation, and give George some long-term security.

"We are working it on it now," Bird said. "We’ve got a way set up where we definitely think we can get something done, but it’s going to have to work for both parties."

Because the Pacers would have the ability to match any rival offer sheet George signed in the summer of 2014, there has never been any real concern that the rising star would leave Indianapolis anytime soon. However, it wasn't clear whether the two sides would be able to reach an extension agreement this offseason, or whether George would hit the open market next July.

As Chuck Myron of Hoops Rumors wrote when he examined George's extension candidacy earlier this summer, the 23-year-old would certainly receive a four-year maximum salary offer in free agency. As such, Indiana will likely have to offer something in that neighborhood, unless the former 10th overall pick is willing to take a discount. We'll have to wait and see what sort of deal is reached by George and the Pacers, but perhaps the club could offer a fifth year in exchange for the CAA client accepting slightly less than the max.

George was named the NBA's Most Improved Player for 2012/13, when he set career-highs in PPG (17.4), RPG (7.6), PER (16.8), and several other categories. He also helped lead the Pacers to within one game of the NBA Finals, even without the injured Danny Granger.

So far this offseason, two players eligible for rookie-scale extensions have inked new deals: John Wall signed a five-year max contract with the Wizards, while Larry Sanders reached a four-year, $44MM agreement with the Bucks.

Extension Candidate: Paul George

It's not often that a player somewhat unexpectedly joins the ranks of the superstars, but that might just have happened with Paul George this past season. The former 10th overall pick from Fresno State stepped into Indiana's spotlight with Danny Granger injured, and transformed from a 12.1 points-per-game scorer who played slightly less than 30 minutes a night into an All-Star, a third-team All-NBA selection, and a second-team All-Defensive player. He backed it up when he took the team a round farther in the playoffs than it had been with Granger as the No. 1 option the year before, challenging LeBron James nose-to-nose in seven stirring games.

The question that remains is just how George's emergence changes Pacers president Larry Bird's long-range plans for the team. Bird sat out this past season, turning the club over to venerable executive Donnie Walsh, but Larry Legend has returned to a small-market team with an unusual wealth of talent. Bird and GM Kevin Pritchard kept a key piece of that talent around with a new three-year deal for David West, and made necessary upgrades to the bench with the signings of Chris Copeland and C.J. Watson and the trade for Luis Scola. Either Granger or Lance Stephenson will join that second unit next season, further strengthening what had been the team's major weakness in 2012/13. 

All of the team's major moves this summer look like winners, but it's the last big decision of the offseason that could have the greatest long-term impact on the franchise. Comparative value would dictate a five-year, maximum salary extension for George after the Wizards handed out such a deal to John Wall last month. Even though George has only played at his current level for one season, he seems at least as deserving of a max deal as Wall, who showed his brilliance only in stretches during an injury-shortened 2012/13 campaign. The idea that Wall could win the MVP this season, triggering a higher maximum salary via the Derrick Rose Rule, is generally dismissed as unattainable. Yet nearly 40% of Hoops Rumors readers voted in June to indicate their belief that George will someday win the MVP award. 

Wall's extension was done by the end of July, after Wizards owner Ted Leonsis made it clear early in the process that Wall was a priority. Blake Griffin's max extension last summer came together just as the negotiating period began. James Harden signed his max extension with the Rockets two days after they acquired him from the Thunder. The Pacers have left George hanging to some degree, forcing him to bat down speculation that he'll sign with his hometown Lakers in free agency. It's clear that George wants to remain with the Pacers, and Bird would obviously like to see him in Indiana long-term, saying last month on radio that the team is prepared to make Paul a "major offer." A "major offer" doesn't necessarily add up to the max, and George indicated in June that he thought of himself as a max player, so perhaps there is a financial gulf between the Pacers and Aaron Mintz, George's agent.

I predicted back in June that George would wind up with a four-year, $50MM extension, and that was based on the notion that the Pacers would hesitate to do the max. That would add up to about $10MM less than the max over the course of the deal, and roughly $25MM less than a five-year max extension would entail. The savings could allow the Pacers a chance to re-sign Granger, who'll be a free agent next summer, without going into the tax. Of course, Mintz and George could reject such an offer and wait until George becomes a restricted free agent in 2014, when he'd be free to sign an offer sheet with another team. It seems reasonable to expect that some team would float a max offer George's way in that scenario, barring a major regression this coming season, leaving the Pacers to either match and reduce their flexibility with other players, or watch their young superstar walk away.

It could be that Bird is content to go all in on this year, let Granger go after this season, and sign a cheaper replacement in the summer of 2014 to accommodate a max deal for George. In that scenario, it would behoove George to get a deal done this summer, giving him the opportunity to make another All-NBA team — or win the MVP — and trigger the Rose rule, which would afford him a more lucrative contract than the Pacers or anyone could give him next year. Bird and the Pacers, then, would be the ones preferring to wait past the extension deadline so they can avoid the possibility of getting stuck with a more expensive max deal for George. 

The idea that George could hit the open market next year, even as a restricted free agent, merely adds to the intrigue already surrounding the summer of 2014. Bird was never short on confidence as a player, so I'm sure he'd be willing to let George hit free agency and take his chances on re-signing him to a team-friendly deal. Similarly, I'm sure Mintz would relish the opportunity to hock a young superstar to the highest bidder. Ultimately, the decision may come down to George, a 23-year-old with a short track record of success. He could be willing to compromise and take less money as a hedge against a decline in performance. He may be ready to get into a staredown with Bird and put pressure on the Pacers to equal the deal that the Wizards gave Wall. George's financial future, and that of the team he wants to stay with for years to come, is at stake.

Eastern Notes: Wade, George, 76ers

Heat superstar Dwyane Wade, like teammate LeBron James, can potentially opt out next summer and become a free agent, but told reporters on Thursday that there really isn't much to make of it right now and made it clear about where he stood: "Everyone knows where I want to be…That's what it's all about to me, is making sure we focus on this season, winning this championship…I want to be in Miami and I have nothing else to talk about. So there won't be (any) exciting news over here" (Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun Sentinel). Wade also touches upon his health and is excited about the addition of center Greg Oden. Here's more out of the Eastern Conference tonight: 

Paul George Hopes To Stay In Indiana

Pacers guard Paul George is a native of Los Angeles and it's rare that a day goes by where he doesn't hear the pleas of Lakers fans for him to suit up in purple and gold in 2014.  However, it doesn't sound like George is looking to leave the Pacers for L.A., or anywhere else for that matter, writes Marc Stein of ESPN.com.

"I'm happy, man. I'm happy in Indiana. It's overwhelming (to hear) that they would want a player like me to come play for their team. But right now I'm focused on Indiana. I'm happy to be in Indiana. Our future is bright in Indiana. I wouldn't want to leave something great," said the 23-year-old.

George confirmed after today's Team USA practice that he has already opened contract extension talks with the Pacers.  While he isn't getting into specifics about the discussions, one source close to the process told Stein this week that a max extension with the Pacers, most likely before the Oct. 31 deadline for players from the 2010 draft class, is a "foregone conclusion."

The former 10th overall pick had a breakout season in 2012/13, averaging 17.4 PPG, 4.1 APG, 7.6 RPG, and 1.8 SPG.  He stepped up even more for Indiana in the postseason where he helped them take the Heat to seven games in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Eastern Notes: Brown, George, Raptors, Blair

Although their pursuit of Bobby Brown is said to be gathering "momentum," the Knicks aren't the only team interested in the Euroleague star. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports tweets that Brown also has offers from Chinese teams, and is drawing interest from other NBA clubs as well. Here are a few more notes from around the Eastern Conference:

  • Appearing on 1070 The Fan, Pacers president Larry Bird said the team is prepared to make a "major offer" to Paul George this offseason to try to lock him up before he hits restricted free agency (hat tip to Pro Basketball Talk).
  • Doug Smith of the Toronto Star hears that the Raptors saved about $2MM in guaranteed money in their buyout agreement with Marcus Camby.
  • A report last weekend suggested that the Wizards are interested in DeJuan Blair, and Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv confirms (via Twitter) that the interest is mutual. Washington has already used its full mid-level and bi-annual exceptions, leaving only the minimum salary to offer, unless a sign-and-trade can be negotiated.
  • While Sam Amico of FOX Sports Ohio says Daniel Gibson is very unlikely to return to the Cavs, he names the Bucks and Pacers as potential suitors for the 27-year-old (Twitter link).

Odds & Ends: Evans, Lakers, Miller, Magic

Maurice Evans didn't latch on with an NBA team during the 2012/13 season, and hasn't appeared in an NBA game since he played for the Wizards in April 2012. Nonetheless, the veteran wing isn't about to call it a career just yet. Jared Zwerling of ESPNNewYork.com tweets that Evans hasn't retired, is healthy, and is talking to a few teams in Europe. It doesn't appear anything is finalized, though Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld tweets that Evans is "set to sign" with a club overseas. As we wait to see where the 34-year-old lands, let's round up a few more odds and ends from around the league:

  • The Lakers paid $500K to Jordan Farmar's former team in Turkey to buy him out of his contract, according to Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times (via Twitter).
  • Mike Miller calls a reunion with the Grizzlies a "definite possibility" if he clears waivers, tweets Ronald Tillery of the Memphis Commercial Appeal.
  • After reaching deals with Ronnie Price and Jason Maxiell, the Magic are done with free agent signings for this offseason, says Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel (via Twitter).
  • Breaking down some comments made by Paul George on ESPN Radio, Matt Moore of CBSSports.com writes that the Pacers shouldn't have to worry about the Lakers making a play for George anytime soon, but that it may be an issue that resurfaces in a few years.
  • Bob Sansevere of the St. Paul Pioneer Press spoke to Timberwolves president Flip Saunders about how the roster is coming together, and his expectations for the coming season.

Poll: Will Paul George Win An MVP?

As we saw earlier today, Paul George is extension-eligible this offseason and sees himself as max contract type of player.  After this postseason, George has catapulted himself into the discussion with the game's elite players.  If his breakout regular season didn't ensure him of eventually landing a max deal, his playoff performance almost certainly did.  At only 23-years-old, George is young enough and good enough on both ends of the floor to carry only a small amount of risk over the course of a big-dollar, long-term pact.

At this point, whether or not George deserves a max deal probably isn't the question.  It is what he does once he gets it that will dictate how George compares to the NBA's best players.  If his teammates' confidence in him is any indication, the former Fresno State Bulldog might be destined for huge things.

"He's the future.  He has a chance to be MVP of this league next year," Roy Hibbert said last night before Game 7.  A confident George agreed with him.  "The more and more I get comfortable in this league and the more and more I find myself, I think I am capable of achieving that award," he said, eventually adding, "In my career, I wouldn’t be satisfied if I don't win the award."

Those are big words, especially considering that George scored only seven points last night in a game where he was primarily covered by the current MVP of the league, LeBron James.  So what do you think… is Paul George good enough to win an MVP?  Will he do it over the course of his career?