AUGUST 13: The Celtics have officially signed Schroder, according to a team press release.
“We are really excited to welcome Dennis and his family to Boston,” president of basketball operations Brad Stevens said in a statement. “Dennis is a high-level player and competitor, who has consistently impacted winning with his play on both ends of the court.”
AUGUST 10: The Celtics and free agent point guard Dennis Schröder are in agreement on a one-year contract, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN (Twitter link). According to Wojnarowski (via Twitter), the deal will be worth the $5.89MM taxpayer mid-level exception.
Schröder has officially confirmed in an Instagram story that he’s joining the Celtics.
“This is one of the best franchises in NBA history and it will be a honour to put on the green and white and do what I love!” Schröder wrote. “I’m going out there every night and leaving it all on the floor for the city!! Who’s ready?!”
We first heard last week that the Celtics and Schröder were engaged in contract discussions, with a report earlier today indicating the team had offered him a one-year, $5.9MM deal.
Today’s report suggested Schröder was seeking a second-year player option and the full non-taxpayer mid-level exception (worth about $9.5MM), but the C’s wanted to maintain cap flexibility in 2022 and avoid hard-capping themselves this season. It appears Schröder relented.
Schröder had an up-and-down season for the Lakers in 2020/21 after being acquired from the Thunder last fall. His scoring average dipped to 15.4 PPG, his lowest mark since 2015/16, and his shooting numbers (.437 FG%, .335 3PT%) also fell off a little following a career year in Oklahoma City.
The 27-year-old struggled in the Lakers’ first-round playoff loss to Phoenix, putting up just 14.3 PPG and 2.8 APG on .400/.308/.846 shooting in six games (32.7 MPG), though he was coming off a case of COVID-19 near the end of the regular season.
Despite Schröder’s inconsistent play in Los Angeles, the extent to which his market collapsed is still surprising. He reportedly turned down a four-year extension offer worth in excess of $80MM during the season. When the Lakers agreed to trade for Russell Westbrook, it closed one door for Schröder, and the teams seeking a point guard in free agency didn’t have the German atop their lists of targets.
As a result, the Celtics – who traded away starting point guard Kemba Walker in June – will get a bargain for the 2021/22 season, while Schröder will look to rebuild his value in Boston before re-entering the free agent market in 2022.
As Chris Forsberg of NBC Sports Boston notes (via Twitter), if the Celtics remain committed to not using more than the taxpayer portion of their mid-level exception, they’ll be limited to one- or two-year minimum-salary deals for any other signings, including draft-and-stash prospect Yam Madar.
If you squint really hard you can see the other 70 some million he left on the table in the contract.
Biggest OOOOOFFF I’ve seen in quite some time, thanks Dennis, lauri has to be puking and jumping at any offer now
Dude is a clown that got what he deserved. He actually got a deal closer to what he’s worth and these other suckers got overpaid by teams wasting cap money. Only like 9-10 real difference makers in the NBA. The rest are just players getting maxed out by silly teams who want to convince their fan base to come watch games but have no chance at winning a title.
I think your misdirecting aggression that should be aimed at his agent?
It’s not like he has to listen to his agent if he doesn’t agree.
Teams do have a minimum payroll of around 101 million so they can’t just sign 15 players at $100K per. They have to spend on someone other than the 10 best players. Your comment is nonsensical with respect to NBA finances and it does not seem like you like basketball or pro sports in general. Don’t forget that it is just entertainment and if you are not entertained you could take up the ocarina or something.
Where did I say there was no minimum salaries? Also if you don’t reach the minimum you just just have to disperse money to Alrrady on the roster. All that other stuff you’re talking is just nonsense trying to sound high brow. Move along
Only one team wins. You might wanna follow quilting now.
You have some of the worst takes on this site. I know you aren’t talking
Why are you even here. Nine guys, overpaid guys. Go sit on it and wait for it. You can’t even explain what this sport is about. Salaries don’t mean anything. The market creates that. This is a team sport. That no overpaid player is winning by himself. You small minded donkey. You read my takes. Then thats the only education you’ve ever gotten. Go get vaxxed. So you can keep this board enlighten .
100% agree with this. I would say the number is closer to 6-7 difference makers. If you don’t have one, Or in Lebrons case, 2, of those guys, why not just try for high draft picks because you’re not winning anything.
The Suns were legitimately a half away from winning a title led by two non-top 10 players. Get outta here with that.
Nerlins Noel 2.0
He should fire his agent. What bad advice. How much more than 80 million did this dude think he was going to get? He’s good not great.
He told his agent he was not signing. If it was the agents fault you would have heard about his firing. DS is a piece of work.
Don’t forget he also sat out the Olympic qualifying and Olympics not to F up his free agency
This is hilarious. Also what’s wrong with today’s youth. Thought he was entitled and screwed himself.
In a way these kinda things keep the tides flowing correctly and make sure sea levels don’t rise too fast Imo
I hate when fans become too pro owner or 2 pro player.
It happens a little more in baseball as no cap makes spending power a little different.
Butttt this face palm serves notice to {future} everyone’s that there IS a market and thinking your stock is infallible has major repercussions . Ofc Dennis isn’t the first and won’t be the last but these reminders are necessary to keep a healthy marketplace in balance
I know it’s not apples to apples but a hard days work for a hard day’s pay should still hold some sort of relevancy in professional sports.
Same as it does for most of us in OUR own occupations
Exactly. Guys like Noel and IT come to mind as well.
At the end of the day Schroeder took a risk and bet on himself.
The fact is it wasn’t that bad of a bet. If LeBron and AD stay healthy Lakers probably make a run if not to the Conf Final then to the NBA. Maybe get another ring.
Then Dennis has leverage to get more cash. Very doubtful LAL looks to blow it up after a successful postseason.
As is they flamed out, other teams sought other options and now DS is rebuilding his value on a $5m deal.
I can’t believe people are still bringing up Noel. He is terrible. Yes, a decent defender and literally zero other skills.
Yea true Surfer….but it’s a lesson that a contract is NOT suppose to reflect the absolute highest upside a player can bring etc etc etc …It’s suppose to be FAIR for both…
I run into this problem more w the baseball folk where spending money is a lot different – They always claim the player should hold out till free agency Boras style and get that max bang for buck
Well many of those players don’t factor in injs/slumps/strikes (baseball ;( ) etc etc can derail that max number in half and sometimes more –
I just want fair contracts for everyone and a system that is in the middle. Once 1 side gets too much power in the market WE suffer as the fan
lmao, sure, Grandpa. Dennis Schroder’s idiocy is ‘what’s wrong with today’s youth’.
He took it to a new level.
That young whippersnapper is still making about $6 million more than you.
The dude bet on himself and lost. That isn’t entitlement, it’s a gamble. Imagine being as upset with life as you to find joy in people losing their value lol maybe find some happiness that doesn’t involve hating on other people.
it’s going to be interesting to see how he compliments the Jays…he’s an excellent BB player but I’m not sure where his motives lie!
Hope he gets his head straight, unlike during his Laker stint. Came in saying he was the starting PG, went into Covid protocol twice, sulked at times on the court, turned down a massive contract and said he was worth more than the 4/$84M that was offered, and had to wait this long for the MLE. Glad he’s an ex-Laker!
He thought the lakers couldn’t replace him so held them hostage.. lakers wised up and just replaced him.. hawks couldn’t wait to dump him.. just a bad locker room guy and doesn’t care about winning.. glad the lakers dumped him
This is more in line with his value ! The Nba is littered with dime a dozen scoring guards and Dennis does nothing to stick out amongst them
Schroder is a point guard.
Not really
He’s a point guard like lou willams and Jamal Crawford where point guards off the bench
I’d view him as a current day Derrick Rose type, a score-first point guard.
It’s his listed position and has been since he entered the league. I get that positions are fluid, but he’s more PG than SG. He’s also undersized for an SG.
You do know that SG stands for shooting guard not scoring guard right? The original comment wasn’t saying he wasn’t a point guard… it was saying he’s a score first guard… period. It had nothing to do with PG vs SG
This is the best free agent signing.
Celtics can easily trade him and Richardson away for a very good player.
$20 million a year player
Ball
Dinwiddie
Powell
Gary Trent
Fournier
any many …
Uh nobody was willing to offer him more than the mid level before money dried up because nobody views him as worth more than that. Media acted like he was worth 80 just because the Lakers were stupid enough to offer it, he isn’t going to bring in a great trade. He is on a one year deal and literally got passed up by all the pretty teams already.
This could be a blessing in disguise because if he turns his career around it gives the C’s a plan B for next season when they come to the realization that Beal or any other big free agents next season aren’t coming here and if he doesn’t turn it around enough he could be trade bait at the deadline
only 3yrs 78mil to make up!
Now Celtics can trade Dunn and Langford for Lauri via 3rd team Thunder
Next up, trading Smart
Would be the intelligent thing to do. They have Pritchard and Madar at PG. Clear salary, go at it next year.
Worst career decision since DeMarcus Cousins decided to wait to sign his max extension.
Oh, I forgot about that one. Yep, good memory.
Oladipo was pretty bad as well but yea this one will be remembered and linked to Dennis’s career probably forever…..
Future trivial pursuit game card question !
If he has a good year in Boston and signs a big deal next year, this will be forgotten. But if gets hurt or has a bad year, you are correct that he will never live it down.
A baseball comp I can think of would Ian Desmond turning down a huge extension with the Nats and then going into the tank for a couple years before the Rockies basically paid him most of the money he turned down. He could have been remembered as the idiot that lost $100 million. Instead he is remembered as the bad baseball player that stole a lot of money from the Rockies.
Ha, Desmond is a good one. Wasn’t he looking for like $150 million? I remember him and the Nats being really far apart despite the Nats making a very good offer.
Also, don’t forget about N. Noel. Think he turned down 80 million.
Noel has made up a big chunk of that money this off season. Boogie is never going to be signing for anything higher than vet’s minimum anymore.
True Boogie easily lost 100+ w no chance at a re-coup!
Smart and Schroder aren’t great but they’re going to be the most hated backcourt by opponents in the league bar none.
I love Marcus Smart !! … Dennis Schroder not so much.
I like him too, but he aint great.
Hated by the Celtics’ fans.
Celtics fans don’t hate Smart. Just saying he isn’t great. Which is obvious.
Schroder gives them the instant offense at the position that Smart lacks, they should be complementary. Both are streaky though, so the hope is they are hot/cold on separate occasions.
Ya only if Smart could get that through his thick skull instead throwing up 3 after 3
Last offseason I would have said they should never trade Smart but after some of his comments about “ no one’s going to stop me from take big shots” it was clear it’s about his ego not the team
Good fit, good price, good business, and on Boston’s full terms after Dennis tapped Uncle- Well played
Im a little bit surprised Dallas didn’t try and jump in w a 1/8 or something.
He wouldn’t be a very good fit there, really he is a streaky 6th man worth $5-$8 so I don’t think any team felt the need for him. Celtics were having a terrible off season so in sure they felt pressured to do anything. IMHO Dennis doesn’t move the needle for any team, he doesn’t play defense he disappears when needed and has a giant ego.
In fact his value is so low that the Celtics wouldn’t even give him a player option for year two, it was probably this on a veterans minimum. Dude has been toxic since Atlanta always complaining about not starting and his pay.
Ouch…happy for the Lakers…dodged a bullet…this guy seems like no good in the locker room….
He rejected $80 million? Say what? The C’s don’t need him.
They didn’t sign him to give out financial advice, they signed him to play PG. He is still pretty good at that.
I’m happy that he’s an ex Laker! He gave up 4/84 for 1/5.89. I guess he wasn’t a math major
Time will tell with the Lakers, but they could have had Caruso and Schroeder for 20 mil or less combined instead of a couple of the older guards. It is evident they didn’t want Schroeder back at any price, although maybe it was he who wasn’t coming back without a clear path at a starting job. It is just amazing that in that market they were too cheap to lock those guys down at that price. That amount of luxury tax is not out of the question in that market with that brand with a win now team to cheap out. I don’t think Schroeder is the only one that has shown poor judgment through this. Maybe they can win a title, but short those 2 guys their road will be a lot tougher.
You are 100% correct but it’s hard to interject concrete opinions with other people’s money- But yea, Gennie be clutching that purse pretty tight
I think Dennis was gone after game 6 vs Phx at any cost
Alex…Im surprised tbh…maybe 23 offseason played into more than we think…They’ll want to be as fluid as humanely possible at that point. They probably feel they can run this same playbook back next year w mins to hedge the gap year-
It is risky tho, he’s a last 2 minute of the game on court asset for the Lakers which is hard to capture on the free market (w little capabilities) w a team 60% already locked in on max’s for the starters
Not really, and that’s a lot of money for very slim value.
If they didn’t want him at any price, why did they offer him $80MM?
Shrunken Bag Alert
toby bag.
I have a feeling he goes to Boston with a “me first” attitude being more concerned with putting up numbers trying to raise his value than winning games, then gets traded to a bottom feeder like minny or N.O.
I dont think theres anything wrong with him, he just should have taken that money when it was on the table! He’s never even had a 5+ WS season, his best was 3.8 this past season. That’s good, but not $100M good! Boston look pretty nice with him. Plus he wants to beat the Lakers, I think that’s his motivation.
If revenge vs lakers was his thing he should have went to your warriors
In the meantime, his young ex teammate signed $190m extension in OKL…. Ouch!
Who was his agent? And is he enjoying his new life in Albuquerque?
Only Sillyman talks about Schroeder as a player and what he brings to Celtics, LMAO
I thought this board was about basketball. We knew long ago he wasn’t getting paid. Why take it out on him. Now you can dream of that 6 mill a yr he’ll be making.
Schroeder stats are better than Balls. So go figure. Always said he was a sixth man. He gives Boston what they need. And he has a lot to prove. He and Smart can definitely hold down PG. Celtics still need a rim protector. I expect his best yr. So Celtics did good. He can still get 20 mill a yr next yr. Just bring it .
Don’t forget about Pritchard as our coming PG. He’s looking in complete control in our 1st two Summer League gams and is shooting threes at a terrific % and from long, long distance.
As a Sixers fan I hate this deal but as an NBA fan I like it.
Celtics going to give people problems with Schroder Smart and Brown. Great landing spot considering there wasn’t much of a market left for him, can try hit the market again next year.
It’s not the end of the world, he’s already made 70 million dollars in his career. He’s going to a decent situation and will be a free agent next year at 28 years old.
Good point ….. man 70 mill before turning 28.
Buhbuhahah! what a joke WOW ,he went to a tight wad organization on a prove it deal and they will never pay him anywhere close to what he wants LOL, still sucks tho could have gave him that just to trade him later OH WELL LOL
How can you say they’re tight wads they offered Durant a max contract in his first trip through FA they paid max for Al, Hayward , Brown and Tatum they’ve paid just like everyone else
Who is it you think they low bald IT4 who I loved but if they did pay him people would be dogging them now because his career ended after that hip injury
Celts will pay for stars but that’s all. After that the thinking is anyone can fill out the roster. Recent example is solid vet Evan Fournier who was planning to stay. We’ve been filling our the roster with lowball contracts for awhile now. Ainge did a good job but it wasn’t enough. Still some of his youngsters may develop soon & Ainge’s work will be upgraded.
First off Fournier sucked when he came here and he didn’t want to stay he was good on bad team and garbage on a good one
Second you can’t pay everyone there is as salary cap plus they’ve paid guys they just don’t pan out sometimes
Matter of time when Tatum wants out going to be awhile before they get another Chip and Boston won’t budge on anything close to what Dennis wants, Boston brass acts like there players are greatest when it comes to trade talks lol
That’s with all of Boston teams
Yes, it’s a lot of money to have left on the table, BUT it will be there for him next summer if he performs. He was a bad fit with the Lakers. Playing with a team much better in transition will accentuate his strengths.
Very big IF.
JohnnyLucas. He WILL NEVER get an offer like that AGAIN. That was STUPID OF HIM
what this person said.
He also sat out Olympic qualifying and the Olympics to preserve his health for free agency….
Good for C’s
Love this deal, he fits in with what the Celts need.
He can recharge his value playing with the Js. Great signing, welcome to Boston, Dennis!
He the $76 million dollar man
This is a boost to the Celtics, being so cheap. Currently they have no teamwork to disrupt, and Schroder is liable to be a spur to Tatum, who can make a difference.
Tatum was a still shooter in the Olympics and looked poised everywhere. He may decide to leave the moving shots to others (Schroder). Not sure if that’s good or bad, but Celts needed a change and found a player for it late.
This move guarantees playoff spot now for cs
Only if Smart falls in-line in stead of trying to secure a big deal next offseason and one or two of past five draft picks finally shows something (-PP)
Agents work for athletes not the other way around so this falls on Dennis. Dennis has been a problem with Atlanta, OKC and LA and has an inflated sense of how good he really is. This was a major screwup on his part and I do not believe he will make up the difference. With that said he does have career earnings of 68 million so I do not think he will be standing in line at any soup kitchens.
Welcome to you Dennis Schroder! We’re happy to have you! Now come prove you are a true Boston Celtic!
Great deal any team should take him at $5.9 mill that is a steal but Smart is a better player and should get more minutes
Must of got some advise from JR Smith!
I am happy he turned the Lakers down. That contract would have been a nightmare for them. He and Boston deserve each other
Fumbled the bag
Lakers offered 2/33 in December. Dennis turned it turn si he could get a better offer 4/84 in February. But the Lakers never offered him the new deal
Lakers were hoping to SnT Schroeder. They knew by end of season they didn’t want him. But nothing materialized. Cause he never dropped his price. Truth is his stats are same as Lonzos. But nobody was giving him more than 15 mill. He definitely overpriced himself. But his agent should of known this. I would change agents. Celtics need him. He needs Celtics. He shows out this yr. He will get 12-15 mill a yr. Always said he’s a sixth man. His best yrs were with Hawks. He’s classic players who play to get paid. When you play and play right. You will get paid. What you’re worth. Teams will pay younger players cause they see upside. Schroeder is looked at as maxed out.