The Warriors are trading Jordan Poole and future draft picks to the Wizards for Chris Paul, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN (Twitter link).
Golden State has no plans to waive Paul, and the two sides are looking forward to working together, sources tell Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report (Twitter link).
According to Shams Charania of The Athletic (Twitter links), Golden State will be sending Washington a protected 2030 first-rounder and a 2027 second-rounder, along with Ryan Rollins, who was a second-round pick last year.
[UPDATE: The Wizards also reportedly receiving Patrick Baldwin.]
The 2030 first-round pick is top-20 protected, per ESPN’s Zach Lowe (Twitter link), and those protections can’t be pushed to 2031 since the pick is already seven years out. That means there’s a zero percent chance that the Wizards will get a top-20 selection from the Warriors. The pick seems likely to turn into a 2030 second-rounder if it falls within its protected range, though that has yet to be confirmed.
Rollins’ $1.7MM salary for ’23/24 was fully guaranteed, tweets Anthony Slater of The Athletic, and removing him from the books will open up a roster spot, likely for a veteran. The former Toledo guard’s ’24/25 salary is partially guaranteed at $600K.
Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports was first to report (via Twitter) that Golden State was actively discussing a Poole trade. Fischer heard the Wizards tried to land Golden State’s first-round pick in tonight’s draft — No. 19 overall — as part of the trade, but the Warriors were able to keep it.
As John Hollinger of The Athletic notes (Twitter link), the trade will have to be finalized in July when Poole’s four-year, $125MM extension kicks in, as Poole is currently on the last year of his rookie contract. Poole is currently subject to the poison pill provision due to the difference between his 2022/23 and ’23/24 salaries.
Paul’s $30.8MM contract for ’23/24 is expected to be fully guaranteed as part of his initial trade from Phoenix to Washington, tweets ESPN’s Bobby Marks. It had previously only been guaranteed for $15.8MM. However, Paul’s $30MM salary for ’24/25 is fully non-guaranteed.
While the Warriors have been linked to Paul in the past, it’s still a shocking turn of events to shed Poole’s contract for a 38-year-old future Hall-of-Famer. Despite being known for his incredible basketball IQ, Paul’s teams typically play in a slow, methodical style, which doesn’t seem like an obvious fit with Golden State’s motion offense.
The deal is yet another indication that the Warriors are abandoning their “two timeline” plan to develop their young players alongside their veterans and instead are going all-in on the present. The club traded former No. 2 overall pick James Wiseman in February in order to reacquire Gary Payton II, who had signed with Portland in free agency last summer.
According to Slater (Twitter link), the Warriors are placing a big bet on their medical staff, led by Rick Celebrini. Paul has a lengthy injury history, including sustaining a groin strain during the postseason, which sidelined him for four games in Phoenix’s second-round exit to the Nuggets.
Poole, the 28th pick of the 2019 draft, struggled mightily as a rookie for Golden State, but he turned a corner in the second half of year two, which lead to a breakout third season. He averaged 18.5 PPG, 4.0 APG and 3.4 RPG on .448/.364/.925 shooting during the ’21/22 regular season, playing a key role off the bench in helping the Warriors win their fourth title in eight seasons.
However, his ’22/23 season was derailed before it even started after being punched by Draymond Green in training camp. There was an awkwardness between them for the remainder of the season, and while Poole showed flashes of scoring brilliance, he also frustrated with turnovers, decision-making, and poor shot selection. Poole averaged 20.4 PPG, 4.5 APG and 2.7 RPG on .430/.336/.870 shooting during the regular season, but was ice cold in the playoffs, averaging just 10.3 PPG and 3.5 APG on .341/.254/.765 shooting.
Poole is still only 24 years old, so the Wizards will be gambling on him returning to his previous upward trajectory. They’ll also pick up some marginal draft assets as part of the deal for taking on his long-term contract.
Paul, one of the most accomplished point guards in league history, holds career averages of 17.9 PPG, 9.5 APG, 4.5 RPG and 2.1 SPG on .472/.369/.870 shooting in 1214 regular season games across 18 NBA seasons. While he was still effective in ’22/23, he also averaged a career-low 13.9 PPG to go along with 8.9 APG, 4.3 RPG and 1.5 SPG on .440/.375/.831 shooting in 59 regular season games.
Now this is an interesting move
Warriors are sending 2030 first round pick and 2027 second to Wizards
So the Wizards can go out and scout guys currently in 6th grade. Ok
Honestly it makes the most sense. If you’re gonna take the GSW firsts you want them as far in the future as it gets. This dynasty is nearing its end but it’s easy to see another 3-4 years with the main core of guys. By 2030 it’s possible they’ll be back to the warriors pre-curry and the pick is more favorable to DC.
That’s not how it works when the pick is top 20 protected. If they are bad they keep their first round pick
Poole is a system guy. Now we will see the real Poole !!!!!!!!
For Chris that’s amusing. Warriors pulling a Yankee ……
Wow..
Wow! Dubs lost big time on that trade! Old unreliable and oft injured in the playoffs CP???
This trade is about dumping Poole’s contract and getting the team chemistry fixed
I get it, but he’s young and they’re trying to lose anyway. If he regains last seasons form, it’s a win, if not, it’s what they expect. Depending on the picks it seems like a lot for one year of another overpaid player.
its not about Poole play and more about Poole being a problem in the lockerroom. Curry has to pull him aside to fix his attitude. they basically chose Green over Poole because Poole got a little bigheaded.
Poole could be better long term, but Paul is better right now in the role Poole was filling. I think for this to work they may have already talked to Paul about role in order to agree. He should be leading the second unit and working more as a scorer/distributer than Poole ever could.
I wouldnt even start him, but you can go small with Curry/Paul/Klay/Wigs/Dray when you want to press the gas on scoring and distributers on the floor. Paul will do a better job than Poole of filling in if Steph misses time since he is a better PG than Poole who was more combo, and Paul should himself sit on the other side of B2Bs from Curry so he can be more rested than he was in PHX.
It will be a bummer if Poole works out in the time after Curry retires, but this should, when combined with the extra bump in the tax recently, keep them out of the second apron the year after even if they bring Paul back on a smaller contract, so the team should have access to things like the TP MLE and other things they would have lost with Pooles money around. They may have a slight downgrade in talent in a year or two on Pooles roster spot if CP is gone, but should be able to spread around some extra depth they couldnt have signed that fits better.
Lets be honest here too, until Curry retires Poole was never going to start, because it would never have functioned defensively with both of them long term.
Gotta love Dunlevy telling everyone a few days ago that Poole would be here for years and years to come… The season of smoke screens!
Poole’s money was much bigger issue than his attitude.
He still has upped his PPG every year.
@MattFoley: The Warriors are not “trying to lose”.
I think he meant Washington, which I also dont think is necessarily true. They have a lot they can still do with moving parts
I think its more about getting players that are younger with the plan unclear now. They could try to build around the younger players they already have who take steps forward, and the draft picks they make in the next year or two. Or they could go full OKC and just flip anything on the roster whenever it has good value for a longer rebuild. Try to pump and dump players like Deny and Poole.
Good for both sides, very happy as a warriors fan!
No the Wiz. It sure seems like tanking is the plan to me. Maybe they try to keep Kuzma, but i don’t foresee it at this point. Probably hoping for a S&T w. him too.
They should offer him a deal and then move him midseason once his trade restrictions leave. He gets to get paid, and eventually play for a contender. Any team with room this year wont be good now. They should have traded him at the deadline if this was the plan. Thats why the moves made no sense since I think all of Beal/Porz/Kuz were worth more then. They kept the trade chips that have much lesser value now then decided to tear it down. Prolly should have just resigned them since that was the direction they had already chosen and burnt it down next year…
They need to get under that second tax apron. New cba kinda forced this. Steph is the only elite player on that roster. The rest are nice quality but probably a bit overpraid. Cp3 running second unit with moody and kuminga will be great for those two young fellas. Hope they can get a actual center as well. They are slowing down and some big guys give them too many fits. Plus they are coming in at 7’4 with guard skills now.
GPII, Loon, Wigs, Moody, Kuminga, and possibly Dray depending on the number he gets are all on contracts that are far below their market value. PBJ/19 this year could also be for next season. I also am super glad they dumped Rollins too since you can find ok depth bigs a dime a dozen, and they can bring back Ty to fill out 3rd string PG duties. 3 2-ways this year will be good for them too.
I didn’t think they’d be able to find anyone that’d take Poole’s contract. Props to them. The Wizards appear to be using the OKC rebuild/ tank plan.
Poole’s gonna thrive as the primary offensive weapon in DC. I bet he ends up top ten in scoring in the NBA, and THEN they move him. Very nice trade for them considering the alternative was just buying out CP. On the other hand, no idea what GS has in mind here. Is CP gonna be cool coming off the bench and playing only when Steph’s sitting? Because otherwise neither can even start to defend a 2, and you’re talking about playing two traffic cones on defense at the same time.
Enjoy watching him lose his leading foot into the splits over and over again. One of these times hes going to tear his groin bad.
Except curry isn’t the same horrible defender he used to be, your info is 10 years old
As noted, this is just a total salary dump for GS And for the Wiz, they can allow Poole to run up some empty stats for a year or two and then flip him to some other desperate GM
yea…dont expect these commenters to understand that logic McAdoo. or the logic that this leads to draymonds resigning
Saving money. I wouldn’t be surprised if cut before his entire salary is guaranteed
It is already fully guaranteed in order for the matching to work for Beals 45M.
Holy s….
GS again. Unreal. Getting rid of that contract and getting back arguably still the best 2 way guard in the NBA
I just dont really get the need b/c if anything, they needed help on the wing to replace Iguodala, and a spacing 4/3 off the bench. They also gave up those pieces for Payton. I guess he could slide over more towards the wing, but definitely some move g parts here.
Washington building an all guard/all shooting, very little defense roster so far…lots of deals still to make for them
No one would argue Paul is still the best 2-way guard in the NBA. Come on
Best two way guard to ever be traded 6 or 7 times.
That’s a stretch for sure, but I like this move. Not a fan of Poole and I’m happy to see them dump that contract.
Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, who else would you put with those 3…again, 2 way. Not 1 or the other or a little of both but not really
Devin Booker would have continued being a ball stopping, volume shooting scorer that couldnt play defense, or playmake without Chris Paul, Mikal Bridges, Jae Crowder, Cam Johnson, and Torrey Craig around him. People hate Chris Paul for some reason, and I will never understand. If not for Monty Williams deciding to go away from everything they did all year after being up 2-0 in the 2021 finals, he would have led them to a championship. He has been hurt at bad times in the playoffs, at least 3 or 4 times; I’m not denying that, but it doesmt take anything away from him as the player he was, and still is
SGA, anyone? Or Haliburton?
The fact that you even mentioned Lowry in this conversation is just hilarious lol. Maybe prime Lowry. Certainly not old-man Lowry (or CP3, for that mattter)?
Edwards, even White and Smart.
It’s clear you missed what I said…Marcus Smart is one of my all time favorite players. I liked Derrick White a lot on his draft, and with the Spurs. Neither are what I was talking about, though Smart is right there. I also obviously didnt say there arent other 2 way guards. I meant at higher levels of responsibility. There are obviously guards that can defend and playmake and shoot, but they arent at those guys level of hierarchy
You pretty clearly said Paul was arguably the best 2 way guard in the NBA, and Syco correctly pointed out he clearly is not.
It seems you missed the entire thread, not just a single post. I specified what I meant, and I still havent seen anyone mention anyone that is “clearly correct”
Both are capable defenders, but havent been as consistent as they could be, and SGA’s effort isn’t always there on that end. I did almost mention Haliburton though, but he has been on some bad defensive teams. I’d feel better about moving him in there if his team made it a little easier on him with another defender there (which I expect them to add this offseason)
People have been laughing at chris Paul and Kyle Lowry for years, yet they are winning players, so…
I like CP3 but at this point in his career he’s only a two-way guard if you’re going half way in either direction. He can still read the floor on both ends but he can’t drive to the bucket and no one on the opposing team seemed to care if he shot the ball. On defense he’s slow to react to younger guys and won’t fight through a screen.
The Suns looked better this season when Cam Payne was running the point. Hate to say it, but it’s true. If CP3 accepts a role off the bench, things could work out well for him at Golden State. Clearly, he has lost a step (or two) but can still be effective for 15-20 minutes per game.
It isn’t Chris Paul hate to mention there are a variety of better 2 way guards then him currently. He’s lost 2 steps. He can’t d up nearly as well as he used to and his offense is limited.
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People hate Chris Paul because he’s police.
Thats where dumping Rollins to free up more roster spots, and getting a 3rd 2way are beneficial. They also should be enough below the second apron next year to get the MLE back. I would think even if he comes back Paul gets 15M or below on the next deal.
Young player. There is also a salary “floor” that you have to achieve with your roster just like there is a salary “cap”.
So who else should they spend it on? The Wizards have waved the white flag, so star players aren’t signing there. Which means they would have to overpay just to get someone interested in signing there. Why overpay on a long term deal for a veteran when they are probably 3-4 years, at a minimum, from being a legit contender. And throwing short term deals at a bunch of players hoping some of them hit is a terrible way to build up the roster.
Poole ain’t no 3rd tier player. He’s immature and a gunner, but that guy can flat score the rock. Watch what he does when he’s the #1 option.
Agree. Poole is a talent. Only 24 years old prime years ahead. Will be in a much better situation now that Poole will not be in the shadow of Curry, Thompson, Green and Wiggins. Excellent trade for the Wizards.
He still is loose with the handle, super loose with the heat check 3s when ice cold, sloppy with the passing, and a trainwreck on defense (especially switched on a big). He is a scorer that can score on or off ball, but Im not sure how much of the other stuff can be fixed…
No doubt Poole will be a 20 plus point scorer a game next year. The trade more has to do with be able to resign Green and open up more maneuver room in the future. The new CBA screwed over the warriors is why they had to trade Poole.
A true rebuild like the Wizards have to do is a process. That process typically involves being really bad for a couple of years to get good picks to hopefully draft members of your future core. They ain’t trying to win games right now.
yup, kicks in this year actually.
Well at least Poole will not need to disappoint in the playoffs playing in Washington.
Lol
Wow!
Let’s all overreact before all the details are in (like always)!
I mean, it’s clear the Warriors soured on Poole enough to trade him for Chris Paul. Whatever the context of the deal or picks involved, you don’t do that if you still believe in the player (and their big contract).
Curious to see what those picks are. Even just one future 1st feels worth it to me for Washington.
It is a great day to be Jon Kuminga! Remember Mike Dunleavy Jr. is now calling the shots on deals, and not Bob Myers. Pulling the trigger right out of the gate.
How do you figure that? This trade makes it almost a certainty that Draymond is coming back which means Kuminga stays on the bench (if he is not traded).
He will get his trade wish.
Kuminga is a Lebron James clone. He’s not being traded. Draymond will move to the second unit eventually and Kuminga will take over from him in the starting/closing lineups.
LeBron James clone lmao
Kuminga can play with the second unit in a more prominent scoring role with CP setting him up for open 3s, cuts, and will be the best alley oop tosser he has ever played with. Kuminga can come in for Looney with the starters for some small ball action, then be one of the main scorers with the second unit, and get the easiest looks of his career with both.
Good gamble for warriors. Not a fan for Poole as a future franchise player . Hope Chris Paul wins a championship
Young player, who has proven himself to a degree, with upside. Can be the “star” player to build around for the next few seasons and is young enough that he can still be an important part of their team if/when their roster is retooled and ready to be a playoff contender again.
Someone already explained it. There’s a salary floor. Money has to be spent. Why not spend it on a young player that might mature away from the GSW?
You have to build around something right? Like really who else is on the roster that you can point to and say “this guy is going to put butts in the seats and help get us through the next year or two”? They don’t have a top 3 pick to draft a foundational player, Monte Morris and Tyus Jones are caretakers, and the trio of Kispert/Avdija/Davis don’t exactly inspire a ton of promise as building blocks either…maybe as rotation players but not as foundational stars. No star is going to be asking to get traded to Washington and there is no young, star player to throw money at in free agency. Washington’s plan was to reset and try to get as many of their current long term contracts off the books, that doesn’t mean they’re not adverse to adding one if its an appropriate player.
Now trade Paul for a center. Maybe the bulls. Or somewhere that can absorb his contract
My god I would love for you to run GSW.
Instead we get Kerr and his dreamland all-guard rotations that get completely destroyed by bigs and height.
Nice trade if you want to keep your heartbeat of the team DayDay Green. Before this I was all but certain Green was going to the Lakers.
Wizard’s get poole and picks for a aging overpaid chris paul a guy they were going to keep to his dismay or waive at some point. Nice move.
Dear Washington Wizards,if you read HoopsRumors,could you please send Tyus Jones to Bulls?I can come to Washington and play for free if you send him to Chi
This to me makes no sense….
But good for you Washington.
You’ve gone from Beal and KP amd not even making the play in to Tyus Jones and Jordan Poole plus picks. Saving yourselves millions, embracing the rebuild and now moving in the right direction
Now CP3 will get his ring! Glad to see Jordan Poole go. Draymond will be back to mentor the young that are left. Also Kuminga is a 3 and he will be used as an Iggy type, not a Draymond type
I think Wiggins might also be traded, for this reason. Blocking Kuminga.
WOW
So the management group that was “light years” ahead of everyone has now dumped wiseman and Poole after telling us they would win now and in the future. Lmfao. Oops! Got a little too cocky me thinks
And people will still tell you Myers was a great GM. Too funny.
(I don’t think he was terrible, but closer to middle of the pick than the top-tier of GMs).
Being able to admit you’re wrong is a sign of good management and the players they got back will help them win sooner than the guys they gave away.
I’m a huge cp3 fan but he’s hurt EVERY YEAR. How is this going to help them win sooner? Are they better than phoenix or Denver? Oops!
Load management, he will be healthy for the playoffs
Have you not watched a Steve Kerr-coached, regular season game? He falls over himself to play the useless 2-way players who cost the Dubs the game! CP3 won’t play more than once a week for the first couple months lol
You seem to have soured on the coach who brought 4 championships to the Bay Area. Granted, 2 of those ‘chips were purchased, and the first title was due to fortunate timing (Cavs 2nd and 3rd best players were injured)… but I digress.
Lol at “2 of those chips were purchased” You’re delusional. Keep telling that to yourself.
Again, injuries are a part of the game. Warriors lost to Raptors because of injuries. It happens.
Going by your logic, Lebron James also “purchased” his first 2 chips when he created the Miami superteam.
yes they have a deeper team than PHX. Also Booker, KD, Beal missed 50% of games combined over last 3 years.
@elbow yeah injuries could doom phoenix
Dont get trapped in the sunk cost fallacy.
4 rings say otherwise, spender
Your 4 rings are in the past lmao. Denver won the title a month ago and I’m already on to next season. Keep living in the past
OKC rebuild plan. Take on everyone’s bad contracts and charge them draft picks. They clearly have zero interest in trying to win any time soon.
They basically halved what they were paying for Beal with a similar skillset, and added rotation pieces in areas where they were losing FAs. They still have a lot of things they can do, with a lot of moving pieces. They need help with a 3 and D wing, possibly 2, and a defender at the 4, and those are areas that should be there for them in the draft
No kidding. If it wasn’t clear from the Porzingis trade, they’re waving the white flag. They’re not trying to compete this season. This isn’t a “shake things up and retool to be back in the playoffs this season” set of moves…it’s a “move anything of value while minimizing/being selective of any long term deals you bring back and start building towards the next potential playoff contender”.
Maybe finally warriors fans will admit that Poole clearly didn’t have positive trade value
They gave up him AND had to attach picks and a young player to get a player in CP3 that was going to be waived anyways LMAO.
Im confused by this move… I understand not wanting Pooles contract but CP was the best solution?
Is he going to come off the bench? Neither he nor Steph should be at the 2 so whats the play? Even if you did move Steph to the 2 guard spot, you’re displacing either Klay or Wigs in preference of a last year CP.
I don’t like it
He starts when Curry rests. Rests sometimes when Curry starts. Then will be the main PG when Curry sits, along with some 2 guard lineups with Curry/CP and Kuminga/Wiggins/Dray playing switch everything for stints.
Say what you will about Poole and the Dubs, but it’s still a pretty nice asset to have out of a #28-overall draft pick just 4 years ago! His 4-yr/130M extension doesn’t kick in until this season(Dubs had him at under 4M last year) and CP3 has only 2-yr/60M left! Saving 70Mil is huge for the Dubs!
Lmfao
CP3 has 30,8 million guaranteed, Poole 123 million. They save much more, although they get a bit more luxury tax with Paul vs. Poole this year.
You also don’t count repeater luxury tax. Chris Paul might sell lots of jerseys also…
Literally zero people are buying Chris Paul Warriors jerseys. He is literally one of the most hated players of all-time amongst all Warriors fans.
The savings is much more than 70 million. Paul has only one year guaranteed for 30 . Add the luxury tax savings and it takes the total savings well over 100 million.
Been waiting all week for this. You could do worse than Chris Paul as a veteran backup point guard who wants to win.
Now trying to guess Kuminga and the 19th pick in the draft for who? That’s next.
Warriors have made their decision to go 1 timeline 1 year too late :(
Thats it… They dont have matching salaries for any other deals. Kuminga makes like 4M. Poole was the big matching piece and every other salary on the books over 5M is one they want.
Jonathan Kuminga makes 6 million but perhaps you’re right. So what do they do now, draft a young big guy at 19 and hope for the best with veterans on the minimum contracts? Better hope Chris Paul knows how to recruit LOL.
I think for the right big man perhaps a Difference Maker they would throw in Moses Moody so that’s four more million. But to your point what difference maker makes 10 or 11 million dollars a year?
Chris Paul as a sixth man for a team that functions based on elite ball movement sounds like a fabulous fit on paper. Jordan Poole as a young guy with potential upside makes sense as a short and long-term bet for the Wiz. But it definitely feels weird for the Warriors. Have they really lost that much confidence in Poole? Sure, he was godawful in the playoffs, but this is still a good young player. And it’s going to be weird defensively to try and play both CP3 and Steph. Don’t think that’ll work. Granted, Poole isn’t better than Paul defensively, but it still feels off.
It’s his attitude that ruins all of his skill set. He is way to big headed and destroys the Warriors team chemistry
I still don’t think CP3 is the best option there. Poole has enough value as combo guard who can score and playmake that he can’t become a negative asset from one bad playoff run and some locker room issues. He’s not Dillon Brooks. Trading him *and* a first for a guy who was going to be waived, has a partial guarantee for next season, and who isn’t a great natural fit for the team is a weird move.
Its all about moving Poole’s money, not his performance or clubhouse attitude based.
Poole shined most when he played for Steph replacing his scoring. CP can replace Steph when he sits better because he is a better PG. Poole was so bad as a distributer that Dray had to play with the second unit. CP will be fantastic at getting Kuminga/Moody/Wiggins looks with the second unit. CP is older and needs to play less to stay healthy. This will let him do that.
His health is they only downside of this for me till Steph retires, because he is much better at the Poole role than Poole was.
So they did end up getting a first rounder for Beal after all.
The new CBA is where bad contracts go to die. No teams who are currently near or may eventually flirt with the 2nd tax apron are going to want $$$ taken up by the Pooles of the world. Expect to see more of these deals with lighter returns.
Wow, pretty good trade for Wiz. A FRP and a youngster for a guy they were going to waive anyway. Although I don’t think Poole will be in DC long term, he can put up big numbers there next season and generate some more assets down the road
1st rd pick is in 2030, know any good prospects in that draft. also it is protected 1-20, did you read the part about 0% chance it’s a top 20 pick?
so the 24th pick in the 2030 draft, wow!
That’s still surprising value for a guy who was going to be waived.
you better come back here in 7 years and tell us all who this pick turns out to be.
non-lottery tickets that don’t matriculate for 7 years doesn’t seem that valuable – but maybe they don’t want to be competitive the next 7 years?
Not sure how anyone what so ever says this is bad for GS?! Jordan Poole and that contract were problems . Even cp3 for 12-18 mpg is more reliable at 38 than Poole. I’m a Kings fan by the way and it’s not like I’m rooting for the dubs to improve. This was a win for them full stop
CP3 will replace Divencenzo basically. The warriors will pick up a 6th man or finally develop both Kuminga and Moody
CP3 replaces Poole basically. Moody has an opportunity to earn Divencenzo’s minutes.
Interesting new info with Rollins being added. He and Poole had some similarities skillset wise, so I had thought be might be in line to get some chances in summer league, but guess not. Makes sense though. You can find guards like them
Very Good, and needed, move by WSH. Winger finally (yes, 2 days, but a long 2 days) sold some of that remote cap space he’d been stockpiling. Poole is criminally overpaid, but is a young dynamic scorer. Not a bad guy for WSH to park in its cap space, at this price. It justifies his quick trigger on Beal. Now, if he can flip another one of his PGs for a 1st, it will have been a sucessful pre-draft period for the new guy.
If warrior’s keep him they will have more assist and lass turnovers than Poole for sure
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I can’t help but wonder if Brad Stevens is smiling about this trade as the Celtics hold the W’s first round pick next year (protected 1-4).
Calm down gs isn’t tanking
Relax – I didnt suggest they were. Just curious as to his view of the trade.
Clear salary dump for the Warriors. Not exactly the 1st move I thought they’d make when Mike took over.
However, from the Wizards side…
Poole is 23. They basically got a cheaper Bradley Beal. If you look at the numbers, Poole is more efficient than Beal was at a younger age. Poole’s 23 yr vs Beal’s 25 yr, projecting out as him being main option on that Wizards team. 25ppg player easily. Winning, no, that’s not even their plan but, he’ll put up points, sell jerseys and is on a team friendly deal when compared to Beal.
Take their moves in totality.
They traded Bradley Beal and KP for Poole, Shamet, Gallinari, Muscala, Tyus Jones, #35 overall, GSW 30′ Pick, Suns Picks:
2024 second-round pick
2025 second-round pick
2026 first-round pick swap
2026 second-round pick
2027 second-round pick
2028 first-round pick swap
2028 second-round pick
2030 first-round pick swap
2030 second-round pick
That being said, I think they did well. They still have to move Kuzma and I’m pretty sure they will end up moving Shamet, Morris, Gallinari, Wright, etc…
Poole, Kispert, Johnny Davis, and Gafford are the only ones I think end up remaining beyond this season. They’re in a good spot to take Hendricks and a couple international players.
I think they keep Delon Wright, and possibly Gallinari, of those players, and I could see Johnny Davis being in the other group, with a new front office there t ok bring in their own guys, and his value as an asset tanking
There are pieces there for them in the draft tonight, and a couple of them kind of clash with Davis’ potential opportunities
Well I think they’ll keep some guys to start the season, but they’re one of the teams poised to make a lot of deadline deals with all those expiring contracts.
Idk if they have a ton of guys they like in this year’s draft, but I’d be on the phone with Brooklyn maybe to take on Ben Simmons for 21 an 22 if Kris Murray is sitting there. Simmons and Bertans are kind of the worst contracts. Everyone else that’s a “bad contract” goes beyond 2 years or is expiring this year.
Now CP3 will get his ring! Glad to see Jordan Poole go. Draymond will be back to mentor the young that are left. Also Kuminga is a 3 and he will be used as an Iggy type, not a Draymond type. Also CP3 will be used as a Devincenzo type because he will definitely command a big payday
How is cp3 getting a ring? Gs can’t even beat the lakers lmao
“Can’t even beat the Lakers”
How many times this Warriors team have faced the Lakers in the playoffs?
One series doesn’t prove anything. Let’s see what happens next year.
GSW cant beat Lebron in non-Finals playoffs, you mean? True.
GSW is 3-1 vs Lebron in the NBA Finals. True.
The dynasty is over. You’re not beating the lakers nuggets or suns. Nighty night
Warriors won the championship last year. No team can win a title every year.
We’ll see what happens next season.
38 year old over the hill but not a bad player for a 24 year old coming of age soon to be superstar type of player might be overpaid today but not tomorrow.
Warriors are going to regret this deal over long period.
Draft choices are ridiculous in this to get a 38 year old.
That means there’s a zero percent chance that the Wizards will get a top-20 pick from the Warriors.
How are GSW to regret saving money with all the rule changes coming up? One of Poole, Wiggins, Klay or Dray had to go. Now GSW can not play 2-way players next year and win it all again, thank god.
Good riddance. Poole is overrated. His defense is crap and he’s inconsistent on offense.
Now, I hope Warriors get a decent big out of all this.
Wizards slowly making good moves. Tyus Jones. Poole. Future picks. A
Add that to Kuzma Gafford Kispert Davis and #8 pick (should be Gradey D!ck or Derek Lively) they’ve got a nice young Core going forward.
Wonder if they deal Monte Morris a d Landry Shamet somewhere.
the 1st rd pick is 7 years from now. and a 2nd rd, those are worth nothing in the NBA.
And every GM would disagree with you, as evidenced by the fact that they’re included in so many deals. Sometimes as the return, sometimes to help grease the wheels, sometimes for matching purposes.
2nds after, say, pick 45 are fairly useless. But anything from 40 onward can be pretty valuable.
So WAS gives Beal away to save 200 million, and now gets Poole for 140 million?
WTF?!?!
“Trust the Process” vs “Two Timelines” – what a totally odd series of events leading to the massive failure of both, which in GSW’s case wasn’t even a failure, as they still won a title out of it. Maybe that was what he meant “two timelines, until we win a title”? Which they did in the first year, so…no need to do two timelines anymore?
I’m not entirely mad, Poole was an awkward fit and CP3 plays defense, plus the money freed up means the core is staying GSW for life, which will anger all these haters trying so desperately to break up Steph, Klay and Dray. You lost today.
Thinking about how CP3+Draymond+GP2 are going to be part of the worst lineup to face in the league – you will be getting nutshotted if you face those 3 on court at the same time. Wear a cup! Haha, Curry is definitely retiring with 8 rings.
Is that the best they could get for Poole? Strange. Didn’t see that coming. They still got a good team I just thought they’d be looking for interior defence or size. They are small and were mediocre to terrible in every inside and defensive category.
it’s not just about talent in trades, it’s also about contracts.
I know, but it still doesn’t fix their problems.
GSWs biggest problem is that they are too guard-heavy to begin with. This removes Poole and that spot with Paul at least in 1 year.
It seems like a desperate move… Maybe something the Draymond wanted more than Myers did…
If you’re GSW I think you’ve got to target Lively or Nnaji. Maybe you trade back for Nnaji. Unlikely they can move up in the draft.
Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond, Looney as your starters.
CP3, GP3, MJ of Delaware, Kuminga, Moody, Baldwin, Nnaji as a 2-way, and a vet Min or 2.
1 injury away from lottery team. :(
This a GREAT MOVE by the Warriors. Poole has only had one good season. 3 of his 4 were crappy. He can’t play defense. Along with GPII, it makes there BIGGEST weakness last season stronger. The second unit kept loosing leads because of pourus defense. Kuminga will be better next season. It gives more time for Moody, Baldwin, and Santos to develop. Now they can get a big like Noah Clowney.
Not really. They could have gotten way more for poole and wiseman years ago. The management costed the warriors another ring
Warriors might flip paul to lakers for dlo and lakers pick at 17th
Why would GSW do with Dlo? Have him sell hot dogs?
Guranteed they won’t. Pick is tonight, SNT’s are for July, and GSW can’t do a SNT in any event.
Warriors are making one more big run at it next year, and Paul makes more sense than Poole for 2023/24.
Klay’s contract, like Paul’s is up at the end of next season. If both leave, Warriors dip below the luxury tax and possibly look at stripping it down and restarting. Their payroll this season is going to be north of $200M anyway, and Klay, Dray and Steph will all be 35 or older at the end of next season. Clearing Poole now, who wasn’t a fit with the balance of the team and is overrated, helps them now and in the long term. Sure he scored 20 a night this past year, but it was an inefficient 20, and his modest 4.5 assists a game was paired with an ugly 3.1 turnovers.
@greg People always forget that part about the Warriors. The Warriors employ a motion offense. Being able to accurately pass the ball is important. High turnovers kill them every time.
Poole had to go. It wasnt just because of Draymond although it all started because of the punch. It was also because of major falling out with Kerr and Curry in the postseason. It got so bad that it was irreparable, and Poole probably wanted out. He got the money, so he’s still happy. Warriors are the one that got scrwed this past year. Wiseman, Poole, Rollins…. They could have added another bona fide star a yr ago…. Now just another old team especially in another yr from now.
If I’m Rick Celebrini and have a reputation for getting, and keeping players healthy I want my name no where near CP3, or responsibility for his health.
A walking full body cast come play-off time.
The Washington Wizards have been completely irrelevant my entire adult life (and I’m 50)!
Warriors are too cool for Poole.
Tyus Jones and Jordan Poole could be a very successful back court with the right defensive pieces around them…
And they’re in the East… Good chance to make the 10…
Why the Warriors made this trade I will never know… With Draymond wanting more money and CP3 on the books they really can’t add anyone else…
They were already too injury prone…
They still havent solved their massive luxury tax issue for this coming yr. :(
Seems good for all parties involved with this trade.
I may be the only one here, but every time Paul played the Dubs in the playoffs, it looked like Paul wanted to fight the entire team, bench and coaching staff of the Warriors. Looked like he absolutely hated the entire organization. To see him a Warrior is a jaw-dropper for me, but anything other than Poole dribbling off his knee and behind the back off his forehead while being a bigger black hole than Corey Maggette is fine by me.
Hope poole doesn’t piss off the rest of the wiz roster like he did for the warriors… or else he’s going to be booted out in no time.