9:01pm: The trade is now official, the Hawks announced in a press release. According to Atlanta’s announcement, three of the five second-round picks the team is sending out in the deal are going to Portland, while the other two are going to Golden State. Here’s the breakdown:
To the Blazers:
- Either the Hawks’, Nets’, or Hornets’ 2023 second-round pick (whichever is second-most favorable).
- The Hawks’ 2024 second-round pick (the Hawks previously traded this pick to Portland with top-55 protection; those protections are now removed).
- The Hawks’ 2025 second-round pick (protected 41-60).
- Note: Portland will receive this pick if it’s between 31-40 and Oklahoma City will receive it if it’s between 41-60 (based on a prior trade).
To the Warriors:
- The Hawks’ 2026 second-round pick.
- The Hawks’ 2028 second-round pick.
The Blazers are still receiving five second-rounders in total, however. According to the Warriors’ own press release announcing the deal, they’ve sent two other second-round picks to Portland. Those picks are the Grizzlies’ 2026 second-rounder (top-42 protected) and the Warriors’ own 2028 second-rounder.
1:55pm: The trade is being expanded further, according to Wojnarowski, who reports (via Twitter) that the Warriors are sending five second-round picks and Knox to the Trail Blazers in exchange for Gary Payton II.
It’s unclear if those are the same five second-rounders Golden State is getting from the Hawks, but the Warriors are essentially trading out Wiseman and getting back Payton, who was a key rotation player on last season’s championship team.
Interestingly, the Warriors just faced the Blazers last night, getting an up-close look at the defensive stalwart, who will now rejoin Golden State. Payton signed a three-year, $26.1MM deal with Portland in the offseason, but has only appeared in 15 games in 2022/23 — he was slow to recover from abdominal surgery.
In addition to getting back a player they’re very familiar with, the Warriors will also save a good chunk of money toward the luxury tax over the next two seasons, as Payton’s cap hit is smaller than Wiseman’s.
1:34pm: Kevin Knox is headed from Detroit to Golden State in the trade for salary-matching purposes, reports Wojnarowski (via Twitter). Knox isn’t a lock to remain with the Warriors, Woj notes.
1:04pm: The Pistons will acquire James Wiseman from the Warriors in a three-team trade that will send Saddiq Bey to the Hawks, tweets ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. Golden State will get five second-round picks from Atlanta in the deal, Wojnarowski adds (Twitter link).
Detroit needs to send out another $2.5MM to match salaries, so at least one more player will be involved in the deal, tweets Yossi Gozlan of HoopsHype.
According to Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link), the Warriors also had Wiseman discussions with the Trail Blazers and Spurs. The Pistons and Hawks discussed a separate deal involving John Collins, but sources tell Fischer that those talks have stalled.
Reports that the Pistons and Warriors were discussing a deal involving Wiseman broke earlier this afternoon. Detroit has been interested in the 21-year-old center since the 2020 draft, and Golden State was willing to move on from a player who never lived up to expectations after being the second overall pick.
He has appeared in just 21 games this season after sitting out all of 2021/22 with injuries and has spent a significant portion of the season in the G League. The Warriors picked up Wiseman’s fourth-year option, so he will be under contract for $12.1MM next season. He will be eligible for an extension this summer, but it’s extremely unlikely that the Pistons will want to make that type of commitment.
Bey has been a productive forward for Detroit since being selected 19th overall in 2019. Through 52 games (30 starts, 28.8 MPG) in ’22/23, he’s averaging 14.8 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 1.6 APG and 1.0 SPG on .404/.345/.861 shooting.
The 23-year-old is still on his rookie contract, which is very affordable considering he’s been a regular contributor in each of his first three seasons. He’s making $2.96MM this season and will make $4.56MM in ’23/24. Like Wiseman, he will eligible for a rookie scale extension in the offseason.
Rory Maher contributed to this post.
Damn, Wiseman was who I was hoping Raptors would get. But I guess after JP deal, wasn’t gonna make sense
Saves the GSW a ton of luxury tax money.
Why?
Because
James Wiseman. He’s owed $9.6 million this year and $12.2 million next year, meaning that San Antonio, Detroit, Utah or Indiana could trade for him without sending anything back. Such a transaction would save the Warriors about $51 million in salary and tax this year and an estimated $85 million in salary and tax next year; a total of $131 million in savings to dump a guy who rarely plays.
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umm… Payton Jr makes around that tho on a 3 year deal.
5 2nd round picks. Will the warriors flip those picks?
Some of those picks for Bojan
with what salary matching?
No way to get to 20M.
This is a s**t trade where ownership is taking garbage back to get out of money on an asset with future value. Nothing about this deal helps the team this season, and it only helps in future seasons financially.
Chapman’s vacuum you are right unless it’s expanded to be part of this deal. Or would a trade exception be created for the Warriors here? Not sure about those rules.
Still not close to the 20M bojan makes.
Wiggins cant be dealt and other than him nobody is making more than 5M so you cant make 20M happen without like 6 salaries from cheap guys.
Stupid stupid trade where the warriors get worse this year and next…
F*** Joe Lacob after all the money value Steph has added he goes cheapskate and makes a lose now lose later move to save some money next year!
This is utter incompetence at asset management and they could have given him more playing time the rest of the year if this seasons not going great anyways and had him ready for next year.
Christ second rounders are flying everywhere today
Your question has now been answered and it is a Yes! Gary Payton to the Warriors for five 2nds.
So we give up Wiseman for a guy we could have just signed this last summer for nothing? F***ing incompetent! Should have just paid the money for a couple years even if it was a loss since thats what Curry deserves after all the future money he made Joe! Lose a couple million a year now sell later for 15B douchebag owners!
They couldn’t afford the cap space signing GP2 after last season. But with Wiseman gone I read they actually save more cap space with GP2 back.
portland made out on that trade. Why all 5 2nd round picks? GSW should have kept at least 1. Should have said 4 but not 5.
Sad, but sometimes you have to admit wrong and cut loss for greater good. Luxury tax does matter especially next yr. Wiseman value is so low now unfortunately.
Sell low
Warriors luxury tax is still $113 million after the deal
Add Knox $6 million contract plus $52 million tax 2 years
Warriors, you are a hugest loser in the nba
Get rid of Bob Myers
Embarrassment post
If deadline is 8pm today
This trade would expand to 10 teams 20 players
Oh get rid of Wiseman? A player who, hasn’t shown much of anything when it comes to contributing to winning(and it’s not like GSW was giving him any runway to improve anyways) has flipped him for Gary Payton II.
The only reason they didn’t bring GP2 back was bc they couldn’t afford to outright sign him. They didn’t have his bird rights, so, like Porter, a team with cap space picked him up. He got a 3yr deal.
The Dubs we’re going to have to decide whether or not to pick up Wiseman’s pricey 5th year option this summer, and still don’t know what to expect from him.
Yet Wiseman will be making more than GP2.
The Warriors haven’t had a legitimate point of attack/point guard defender outside GP2 since pre-injury Klay, and, as Steph+Klay+Dray age, it makes sense to have a hyper athletic defensive maestro in Gary Payton through his age 32 season to keep Steph/Poole/Klay from being tasked with defending the likes of Kyrie/Ja Morant/Lillard/etc.
I’m pretty sure Bob Myers just made every Dubs fan’s day by doing this.
I think you pulled the trigger a tad too quick in your eagerness to put down another grown man
Seems like somebody started celebrating before the game ended, I feel like I’ve seen that rerun before #DUBDYNASTY
@Sillivan…yea the warriors are trash team. Smh ♂️ Trash teams all make the finals 6 out of the last 9 years winning 4. Your comment, probably like you, is the real trash.
Were they wrong? Or has Kerr just refused this season to give him a shot after game 3? He went to the G improved then came back and looked better in the NBA. Almost immediately got hurt again and once he returned was given zero chances to show he belonged. Kerr really fked his development up, but they should have given him more of a look the last month before dealing him for worthless assets. Could have gotten worthless assets from the same team this summer.
I wouldnt care if they were bringing back a player that would help this year as a playoff rotation guy, but this is just a money saving move where your jettisoning an asset that could still be worth a lot in the future for nothing. Could have given him the rest of the year to develop and more time this summer healthy before making a call for next year…
Thats why it’s a sad day. But his value could sink even lower and W’s have to do something in the offseason regarding luxury tax. Anyways, what a fiasco. Lets hope they will sign someone in the bought out mkt and not give up this season.
He would have been worth exactly this in the summer after Kerr doesnt play him more! All he really could have done with any min he recieved the rest of the year is increase his value since it couldnt get much lower without him playing a lot for multiple years and regressing more. He was worth as little as he could be.
The sneaky upside with Wise was next year you could have extended him on the cheap so that if he does pop he makes like 7M per over 4 years or something. Sign what could be a future starter to backup money.
Lets be happy with GP2
I’m starting to like this trade depending on Paytons health.
Wiseman isn’t a fit on the Warriors.. he needs to be a scoring option, not just a role player down low.
He’s a better scorer than he is an overall Center is what I’m saying.
for GS, with Curry currently pined, needed PG help so got the guy they think helps most.
GP2is a worthless asset? Damn… poor dude actually helped the Warriors and you treat him like trash
Wow. Really? 5 second rounders? SmH
5 2nds? I guess Wiseman really does stink. He and Bagley can discuss being drafted too high, and then not playing much. Hawks did well
Right. 2nd rounders are pretty much useless in this league except as trade filler. Occasionally a team will get lucky and draft someone good but the vast majority of them are nothing. Would love to see a team go out and get like 10 of them in an upcoming draft.
Dude still has talent
Wiseman is worth 2 lottery protected Firsts
My grade on Warriors
Huge F
How is he worth 2 firsts? He’s done absolutely nothing so far…
Top 20 protected firsts
I don’t think that’s Wisemans doing, other than health he’s been sat on the bench or in the G league because of the Warriors status of Dynasty
His other chance was to come out of the draft healthy, on fire, playing like Barnes did for TO last year.
Just wasn’t meant to be
He has a good chance to be something in Detroit
I think Sullivan had too many parsley brownies for lunch
It’s oregano!
Sillyvan this is somehow dumber than 95% of the other things you say on this site
Stop giving yourself grades
How many C’s do the Pistons need?
They’ll take as many second pick flops as they can.
Exactly the type of deal we needed to make. We get another wing defender that can take a lot of Jalen Johnsons pt without actually trading Jalen. Detroit made the weird decision to add Bojan thus off-season when they already had Saddiq & that has turned out terribly so far. Those guys were a terrible fit defensively. Saddiq & Dre is a much better fit. Add John & Jalen to the mix & we have 4 very good defensive forwards all signed for yrs to come. 5 2nds is a lot but Saddiq is worth it
Yeah Saddiq Bey really puts the Hawks in contention again!
Would rather have him for Wiseman than a bunch of useless second round picks to become future Ryan Rollins!
Lol u think Ryan Rollins is washed up or something?
That dude was washed the day he was drafted lols!
He was being touted in the summer as the 3rd PG this season ;)_ _ _
The only way he is anything is if this new CBA changes the G to be more like minor leagues where you can develop guys there without putting them on standard contracts.
I feel like you & I follow pro basketball for totally opposite reasons.
Did you watch RR this season? That dude was soooooo bad and sooooooo far away. I honestly have no idea what they saw in him based on what he did when he got some min. Even in garbage time against other worse players he would just drive into traffic and turn it over, its literally his only “move”.
The Ryan Rollins “shake and give away”
You truly should pick another sport to follow
On the flip I think the G would be a lot better if half the contracts were team controlled spots that didnt take an NBA rotation spot so you could have draft and develop guys.
Just about the only time I see G games with anything but a mostly empty gym is when GSW sends real guys like Kuminga down, so seeing more players that could be part of the NBA team in the future would increase interest in the G a lot since most of the current players are basically just FAs nobody is going to sign.
Why do u watch G-League games lol u clearly hate basketball
How do the financials work? Hawks using a trade exception to sign Bey?
Pistons seem to be doing a very good deal. Sending out Bey and Knox for Wiseman, without adding picks. Or do I undervalue Bey / overvalue Wiseman here?
Well, atlanta finally replaced the wing depth they lost by giving up 5 picks…
I see why GS took the picks, but Bey for Wiseman could have been godlike for them…
I originally saw Bey as a 4/3 that might be able to play some smallball 5 put of the draft, but after his first year I thought he could play the wing on the right team. I’m really surprised Detroit is giving him up, but I’ve been confused about some things they’ve done the last 2.5 years
That being said, his inconsistency with his shot isnt as important with what he’ll have around him. I personally think it’s a significant step forward for Atlanta after what I thought was a bad deal for Huerter. Doesnt exactly replace his skillset but it gives them something they needed. I think all of the sudden they’re much better with this deal
This just in… The Thunder are receiving 27 2nd round picks from various teams for the rights to Emir Preldzic.
I thought GSW had to do something with (trade) Wiseman before the deadline, or see the price go down dramatically in the off season. Now, I’m thinking it already had, so what was the point. The league has certainly changed. There was a time not too long ago, when a guy with this athletic profile could have been in prison for 3 years and still netted a late 1st.
Because Kevin Knox is the answer we’ve been waiting for!
This value is BS and a pure salary dump move for a player with real talent if they would invest in his development.
Its not like theyre lighting the world on fire this season with a .500 record so they could have at least developed while in mediocrity
Clearing payroll to resign Green is the only positive i can see in all of this.
So f*** Lacob!!!!
His team is worth over 10x what he paid for it because of Steph/Klay/Dray so you bite the bullet and lose some money till they retire in return for all the future money they have given you….
Cheapskate play that hurts the team this year and maybe in 5 years since if Loon gets hurt in a couple of weeks I dont see those second rounders doing anything….
This is all to save money and the “upside” will be converting Ty Jerome and Lamb to full contracts…. So worth it! LOLS F*** team owners they all suck even the “good” one!
It’s financial (and not minor either, because there’s another year of JW at 12.5 mm locked in). It doesn’t justify the return completely, because they could have just taken Bey who’s not making much more than Knox, although he goes out another year.
Because all his added value is from Steph and is equal to far far more than any season to season losses he might incur, and because he wont pay Steph the 250M per he has been worth since even with the structure the top stars are wildly underpaid, he owes it to Steph to pay whatever it takes to put as much talent around him as possible till he is 38-44 and decides to hang it up.
The money is real but he comes out so far ahead whenever he sells the team that not doing the full Balmer and spending till it hurts is the cheap douche move!
With Kevin Knox now in the deal I hope that means there is another deal in the works.
I think you’re right. Better check the Warriors or Woj Twitter feed to see if something’s coming up?
Return on Wiseman…a bunch of second round picks and Knox?
Good God.
F*** Joe Lacob and Bob Myers! Cheap f***s have no asset management skills!
No, a bunch of 2nd round picks minus Knox.
I predict they flip those picks for GP2
Well thats not happening and you know it. Could have just had both GP and Wise if Joe wasnt a cheap douchebag. I mean Curry only made his 450M asset worth north of 10B and brought in 4 titles he doesnt deserve operating at a loss for a few years at all!!!!!!!!!!
This did not age well.
Chapman’s vacuum, seriously?
What have the Ws done since the day they won the title that wasnt just cheap. Im sorry for assuming this was entirely about cost savings. Everything else is still correct!
The whole reason Ryan Rollins is uselessly occupying a roster spot is because 2nd round picks are the cheapest contract in BB. The difference in the taxes between his money and the 1.8M DLee would have cost is low enough though that having a playable rotation guy instead of hot garbage would have been worth it!
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent prediction, friend!
2014 Draft:
#2 overall pick-Jabari Parker
2nd-Rounders that draft:
PG-Spencer Dinwiddie
SG-Joe Harris
SF-Jerami Grant
PF-Dwight Powell
C-Nikola Jokic
6th man-Jordan Clarkson
Not all hope is lost, maybe the Dubs can get a 2nd-round draft class like that a decade or so later…;)
Ok now the trade makes more since but long term weaver wins this trade it will be interesting to see how it plays out in Detroit my guess is noel will go somewhere today for cash or 2nd
Noel makes $9M and will be probably cut in the off-season
We got our mojo back !!
Let’s go !!!!
That is great they got Payton back think they need another forward 3 D in the bench and a back up big might get it through buyout market
Portland better hope the Lavine deal goes down in NY, or Hart lifts NY solidly into the playoffs, or they will have a lot of phone calls centered on trading 2nd round picks in the near future.
I actually think Knox would have been a good fit for what GS needed at the 4/3, though obviously Payton was a big loss for them. They havent been missing that as much as the spacing and versatility they lost with Porter, with Devincenzo there. Still doesnt hurt for them to have him, especially b/c they havent been using Iguodala, which is something else they’ve been missing….
Still think Bey would have been godlike for them in this, and very confused by detroit…
Now that portland is in this, it goes back t ok what I was saying earlier in the thybulle trade. So now they do move Payton and have 2784 more 4s and 2s left, with Thybulle there to replace a lot of what they lose, besides Paytons shooting…Portland als ok continues to add hopeful wing shooters, and if they can get that from 1 or 2 of those guys, it would be significant, and the picks and that are worth also moving off Payton’s money
i think Bey looking to get paid and Detroit didn’t see him as a long term fit… As a Pistons Fan I wished we had more time with bey I would have felt better trading Bojan but I like the idea of wiseman..
I don’t get why Wiseman is going for GP2 … Even OKC could have been interested more than Detroit who has 4 bigs already.
Looks like Portland made a panic trade @ TD just to sign Grant on a max deal next off season…
Warriors were really missing GP2’s defense. He fit perfectly with their system.
Nice to see him back with the Warriors.
GSW miss Otto and Bjelica more … With DiVi and Lamb you don’t really need GP2 on a Mid level contract … Probably waiting a buy out to cut JaMichael Green
Big mistake trading Wiseman l……
Glad he’s out of GS.
Why did the Hawks feel the need to keep blocking Jalen Johnson? Lol. Yet somehow they still think John Collins will breakout any day now. Hawks getting Bey was the dumbest part of the deal.
not signing Payton resulted in DD signing. we now have DD and Payton. AND saved money. Any genius can Google how this played out….except for ChapmansVacuum. That effing idiot couldn’t understand any effing scenario that actually occurred. F chapman. F his vacuum. Lacob is THEE reason GS has 4 rings cuz he pays the EFFING tax that allows morons like effing chapman to enjoy 4 EFFING titles. CV, please PLEASE find a different team to follow because this team, the Gsw, is not for you. F off dude.
Neutral trade; no motor guy for no motor guy. Knox and Wiseman are the most frustrating players to coach. All the physical tools, but no fire.