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Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 12/3/15

In a recent column from Chris Mannix of SI.com, the scribe opined that the Rockets need to make a run at hiring former Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau. Mannix’s reasoning was that Thibodeau’s hard-nosed defensive approach was needed if the team hoped to maximize the full potential of its roster, as well as revamp its woeful defense. Of course, it would remain to be seen how well Thibs’ personality would mesh with the likes of Dwight Howard and James Harden, neither of whom are well-known for their ability to accept tough coaching. Nevertheless, the idea of the Rockets straying from their preferred run-and-gun style of recent seasons and transitioning into a grittier defensive squad is an interesting one, though it’s no given that Thibs’ system would thrive in the much tougher and faster Western Conference.

This brings me to today’s topic: Should the Rockets make a run at hiring Tom Thibodeau as coach?

Is Thibs’ style just what the franchise needs to move forward in the West, or would his system be a hindrance given the competition in the conference? Could Harden and Howard thrive under Thibodeau, or would this grouping result in more back page headlines than wins? Head to the comments section below to share your thoughts, opinions, as well as best and worst case scenarios if coach Thibs were to join the Rockets. We look forward to what you have to say.

2016/17 Salary Cap Projection: Detroit Pistons

The NBA’s salary cap for 2015/16 has been set at $70MM, which is an 11% increase from last season, and the luxury tax line is fixed at $84.74MM. The last cap projection from the league prior to the official numbers being announced had been $67.1MM, and the projection for the tax line had been $81.6MM. Many league executives and agents believe that the salary cap will escalate to a whopping $95MM for 2016/17, a higher figure than the league’s last projection of $89MM. This significant bump is a result of the league’s new $24 billion TV deal that kicks in just in time for next season.

The increase in the salary cap will almost assuredly set off a flurry of activity in the free agent market next summer, and it will also make it easier than ever for teams to deal away their higher-priced stars. Prudent executives are acutely aware of exactly how much cap room they have to play with, not just for the current campaign, but for next season and beyond as well. While the exact amount of 2016/17’s salary cap won’t be announced until next summer, it always pays to know just how much salary is on the books for each franchise. With this in mind, we at Hoops Rumors will be breaking down the projected 2016/17 financial commitments for each franchise, and we’ll continue onward with a look at the Detroit Pistons:

  • Fully Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $47,377,414*
  • Partially Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $900,000
  • Non Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $11,855,067
  • Total Projected Salary Cap Commitments: $60,132,481

*Note: This amount includes the $5,400,000 due Josh Smith and the $452,049 owed to Aaron Gray, both of whom were waived via the stretch provision.

If the salary cap were to fall in line with the projection of $89MM, Detroit would have approximately $28,867,519 in cap space, or $34,867,519 if the cap were to be set at the higher mark of $95MM. Again, these are merely predictions until the exact cap amounts are announced, and they are not meant to illustrate the exact amount that the team will have available to spend this coming offseason.

Detroit will also need to make a decision regarding Andre Drummond, who is eligible to become a restricted free agent next summer. If the Pistons wish to retain the right to match any offer sheets the player were to receive the team would need to submit a qualifying offer worth $4,433,683. That amount would merely be a place holder until the player either inked a new deal or signed his qualifying offer, which would then set Drummond up for unrestricted free agency the following offseason.

Trades and long-term free agent signings made during the season will also have a significant impact on the figures above, and we’ll be updating these posts to reflect the new numbers after any agreements and deals have been made official.

The Basketball Insiders salary pages were used in the creation of this post.

Submit Your Questions For Hoops Rumors Mailbag

In addition to our regular weekly chat, which Chuck Myron facilitates every Wednesday, we have a second opportunity for you to hit us up with your questions in our weekly mailbag feature, which is posted every Saturday.

Have a question regarding player movement, free agent rumors, the salary cap, the NBA draft, or the top storylines of the week? You can e-mail them here: hoopsrumorsmailbag@gmail.com. Feel free to send emails throughout the week, but please be mindful that we may receive a sizable number of questions and might not get to all of them.

If you missed out on any past mailbags and would like to catch up, you can view the full archives here.

2016/17 Salary Cap Projection: Denver Nuggets

The NBA’s salary cap for 2015/16 has been set at $70MM, which is an 11% increase from last season, and the luxury tax line is fixed at $84.74MM. The last cap projection from the league prior to the official numbers being announced had been $67.1MM, and the projection for the tax line had been $81.6MM. Many league executives and agents believe that the salary cap will escalate to a whopping $95MM for 2016/17, a higher figure than the league’s last projection of $89MM. This significant bump is a result of the league’s new $24 billion TV deal that kicks in just in time for next season.

The increase in the salary cap will almost assuredly set off a flurry of activity in the free agent market next summer, and it will also make it easier than ever for teams to deal away their higher-priced stars. Prudent executives are acutely aware of exactly how much cap room they have to play with, not just for the current campaign, but for next season and beyond as well. While the exact amount of 2016/17’s salary cap won’t be announced until next summer, it always pays to know just how much salary is on the books for each franchise. With this in mind, we at Hoops Rumors will be breaking down the projected 2016/17 financial commitments for each franchise, and we’ll continue onward with a look at the Denver Nuggets:

  • Fully Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $56,907,812*
  • Partially Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $0
  • Non Guaranteed Salary Commitments: $2,690,150
  • Total Projected Salary Cap Commitments: $59,597,962

*Note: This amount includes Darrell Arthur‘s player option worth $2,940,630 and the $980,431 owed to Nick Johnson, who was waived by the team.

If the salary cap were to fall in line with the projection of $89MM, Denver would have approximately $29,402,038 in cap space, or $35,402,038 if the cap were to be set at the higher mark of $95MM. Again, these are merely predictions until the exact cap amounts are announced, and they are not meant to illustrate the exact amount that the team will have available to spend this coming offseason.

Trades and long-term free agent signings made during the season will also have a significant impact on the figures above, and we’ll be updating these posts to reflect the new numbers after any agreements and deals have been made official.

The Basketball Insiders salary pages were used in the creation of this post.

Several Recent Top 10 Picks No Longer In NBA

Martell Webster became the latest former top 10 draft pick to find himself out of the NBA when the Wizards released him Monday, and he has plenty of company. More than a quarter of all top 10 picks drafted between 2005 and 2011 aren’t currently under contract with an NBA team. Webster, the No. 6 pick in 2005, stands a decent chance to find his way back to the NBA once he recovers from hip surgery, but the same can’t be said for many of the rest. Jonny Flynn, who like Webster was once the sixth overall pick, hasn’t played an NBA regular season game since 2012. It shows the capriciousness of the draft, since the player drafted immediately after Flynn in 2009 is Stephen Curry, the reigning MVP.

The latest two players in the NBA to hit waivers are both former top 10 picks. The Pelicans cut Jimmer Fredette, the 10th selection from 2011, a couple of weeks before the Wizards split with Webster. All the players who’ve become top 10 picks since Fredette are still in the NBA, though not coincidentally, the vast majority of the top 10 picks from 2012 forward remain on their rookie scale contracts.

Here’s a look at every top 10 pick chosen since 2005 who’s no longer in the NBA:

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First-Round Pick Debit, Credit Totals

The Celtics and Sixers have a bunch of extra first-round picks coming their way, but they’re not the only ones. Seven other teams have traded for more first-rounders than they’ve traded away, including the Nuggets and Suns, who have three extra first-rounders apiece. The Nuggets also have the more favorable side of a pick swap, since they have the right to exchange their first-rounder for New York’s in 2016 if they want to, a vestige of the Carmelo Anthony trade.

Conversely, perhaps no team is in worse draft position than the Heat, who have to give up three first-rounders, including an unprotected 2021 pick. The Kings and Nets may also lay claim to the league’s least favorable draft position, since they have to give up two first-rounders and are on the short end of possible pick swaps, too.

Draft pick credits and debits become relevant as trade season unofficially begins December 15th, the date when most offseason signees become eligible to be traded. Boston and Philadelphia have draft assets to spare, while Miami, Sacramento and Brooklyn are limited, especially given the stipulations of the Stepien Rule, which prohibits teams from trading consecutive first-rounders.

Keep in mind that not all first-round picks are created equal. Many first-round picks are protected, and some of those protected picks are conditional; that is, the team that owes the pick could wind up never conveying the pick in certain circumstances. Sometimes the obligation converts into second-round picks. For instance, if the Timberwolves wind up with a top 12 pick this year, they don’t have to give up the first-rounder they owe the Celtics and would instead have to relinquish two second-rounders.

The conveyance of some first-round picks is contingent on others. The Kings would only have to swap first-rounders with the Sixers if they don’t give up their pick to the Bulls. That’s why there are five pick swap “plusses” and only four “minuses.”

These are the teams that have more first-round picks coming their way than they owe:

  • Celtics: +5 (+1 pick swap)
  • Sixers: +4 (+3 pick swaps)
  • Nuggets: +3 (+1 pick swap)
  • Suns: +3
  • Jazz: +2
  • Raptors: +2
  • Bulls: +1
  • Hawks: +1
  • Magic: +1

This is the break-even group, with a net zero first-round pick debt:

  1. Bucks: 0
  2. Hornets: 0
  3. Pacers: 0
  4. Pelicans: 0
  5. Pistons: 0
  6. Spurs: 0
  7. Wizards: 0

These teams owe more first-rounders than they have coming their way:

  • Cavaliers: -1
  • Clippers: -1
  • Knicks: -1
  • Mavericks: -1
  • Rockets: -1
  • Trail Blazers: -1
  • Warriors: -1 (-1 pick swap)
  • Grizzlies: -2
  • Lakers: -2
  • Thunder: -2
  • Timberwolves: -2
  • Nets: -2 (-1 pick swap)
  • Kings: -2 (-2 pick swaps)
  • Heat: -3

The RealGM traded draft pick details database and Mark Porcaro’s list of traded draft picks by round were used in the creation of this post.

Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 12/2/15

Joakim Noah has been gracious in his public remarks about his reduced role on the Bulls this season, but it’s nonetheless easy to tell that he’s frustrated and wants more playing time, as Nick Friedell of ESPNChicago.com observed after Noah’s comments to the media Tuesday. The season has been rough for the soon-to-be free agent, as new coach Fred Hoiberg benched him in favor of Nikola Mirotic, making Pau Gasol the team’s clear-cut first-string center. Hoiberg nearly reversed course before a game against the Sixers last month and planned to put Noah in at the tip instead of Mirotic, but Noah pulled up lame during warmups and didn’t play in the game at all.

Hoiberg has kept Noah on the bench since that night, and entering Wednesday’s game, he’s averaging 20.6 minutes per contest, the fewest of his career. Noah is only scoring 3.1 points a night, a number that seemed unfathomable two years ago, when he was the All-NBA First Team center.

It’s a nightmarish scenario for the Bill Strickland client who turns 31 in February and whose contract is up at season’s end. It also presents a tricky situation for the Bulls, since Gasol can opt out at the end of the season and hit free agency, too. Chicago, which entered the season with two marquee centers, could have zero by the end of July.

That leads to our question of the day: What should the Bulls do with Joakim Noah?

Shoehorning him into the starting lineup next to Gasol wouldn’t fit with Hoiberg’s offensive philosophy or with the league’s movement toward small ball. Trading Noah would present its own difficult circumstances, since his value is probably at an all-time low, and any team that trades for him is liable to see him walk away in free agency this coming summer. Noah has played with heart and has no doubt become an important figure in the Chicago locker room over the years, but the demotion has apparently placed a strain on him, and there’s no telling how much longer he’ll continue to affect a positive attitude. The Bulls could replace Gasol with Noah in the starting lineup, since Gasol’s numbers are off this season, too, but that might only create a similar set of problems.

So, what say you? What can the Bulls do to make the best of this situation? Take to the comments section below to share your thoughts and opinions. We look forward to what you have to say.

The Beat: Gery Woelfel On The Bucks

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Gery Woelfel

Nobody knows NBA teams better than beat writers, save for those who draw paychecks with an NBA owner’s signature on them. The reporters who are with the teams they cover every day gain an intimate knowledge of the players, coaches and executives they write about and develop sources who help them break news and stay on top of rumors.

We at Hoops Rumors will be chatting with beat writers from around the league and sharing their responses to give you a better perspective on how and why teams make some of their most significant moves. Last time, we spoke with Tony Jones of The Salt Lake Tribune about the Jazz. Click here to see all the previous editions of this series.

Today, we gain insight on the Bucks from Gery Woelfel of The Journal Times. You can follow Gery on Twitter at @GeryWoelfel, and check out his stories right here.

Hoops Rumors: Bucks officials seemed to do their best to temper the high expectations surrounding the team coming into the season, but I don’t think anyone expected a start this slow. What’s gone wrong?

Gery Woelfel: I think it’s a combination of things. I don’t know that it’s one thing in particular. They lost some really quality veteran leadership in Zaza Pachulia and Jared Dudley. That’s affected them somewhat. … They’ve been perhaps, maybe a little too arrogant, for lack of a better word, coming off last season. They went from 15 wins the prior season to 41. Certainly, you can just look at the Eastern Conference as a whole … the rest of the East is pretty good, too.
Hoops Rumors: What has the net effect of the addition of Greg Monroe been for the Bucks so far? He seems to be producing pretty much the same numbers he did with the Pistons. Do you think he’s been a net positive for the Bucks?
Gery Woelfel: Yeah, I do. He’s done a couple of things. One, the Bucks have really needed a low-post scorer, and then secondly, if you followed the Bucks-and-Bulls series last year, one of the real shortcomings of the Bucks was their lack of rebounding, and there were a couple of games in which they just simply got annihilated on the boards. … They definitely shored up their interior game.
Hoops Rumors: Monroe is taking the most shots, but Giannis Antetokounmpo is the leading scorer so far. Is Antetokounmpo the best player on this team?
Gery Woelfel: I personally don’t believe he’s the best player on the team. Actually, I think that distinction right now goes to Greg Monroe. He’s basically a double-double machine. Everytime he catches the ball, he’s almost immediately double-teamed. Giannis’ upside is off the charts, I think everybody knows that. The same holds true for Jabari Parker. In fact, I was talking to a former NBA player the other day, and he really believes that the Bucks should just turn the team over to Jabari Parker. He’s that talented.
Hoops Rumors: The Bucks gave John Henson a four-year, $44MM extension this fall and he’s averaging only 15.4 minutes per game, even fewer than he did last year. Why pay eight-figure salaries to someone who doesn’t play all that much?
Gery Woelfel: The Bucks have been known to make some very, very baffling decisions over the years. … I like John Henson. I wouldn’t give him that amount. Unfortunately for John Henson, I’m not so sure he’s Jason Kidd‘s kind of player. He didn’t play a lot last year over the course of the season. He didn’t really see extensive minutes until late in the season and in the playoffs. In that matchup against the Bulls, he did quite well, and that’s sort of what bought the extension. The Bucks look at him an asset, too. If they want to, they can trade him, and I’m sure there will be a team more than happy to take him off their hands.
Hoops Rumors: Marc Lasry has indicated in the past that he gives Jason Kidd’s voice just as much weight as John Hammond‘s when it comes to player personnel decisions. Is that the case, and how well are Hammond and Kidd working together?
Gery Woelfel: I think it’s pretty apparent to people around the NBA that deal with the Bucks that Jason Kidd is calling all the shots. … He decided that he didn’t want to pay Brandon Knight going forward. It was a very controversial trade. At the time the Bucks were seven games over .500. After the trade they were seven games under .500 and now of course they’re several games under .500 again this year.
Hoops Rumors: Knight has looked really impressive for the Suns so far. Is it too early to say that the trade was a mistake?
Gery Woelfel: I thought it was a horrendous decision. I said at the time I didn’t like the trade and I like it even less than now. Brandon Knight is a player some people around the NBA thought was an All-Star-caliber player last year. Now he’s off to a terrific start in Phoenix. The numbers don’t tell the whole story about Brandon Knight. The guy is just incredibly competitive. His work ethic. He was one of the first guys there and one of the last guys there, and most importantly, guys like playing with him, because he plays so hard. He’s totally into the game. I think his teammates appreciated that. … That’s not to demean Michael Carter-Williams, because Michael Carter-Williams really comes to the table with his length and his defense. He’s very capable of being one of the best defensive point guards in the league, but unfortunately he doesn’t bring it on a consistent basis. He was the worst 3-point shooter in the NBA as a starting point guard last year. … At this point in the NBA, it’s all about the three ball. You’ve got to be able to shoot the three ball, and unfortunately for Michael Carter-Williams, he can’t do that at this point in his career.

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4:04pm: We hosted the weekly live chat.

3:00pm: Kobe Bryant confirmed Sunday what long seem to be the most likely outcome, revealing his decision that this season will be his last. He’s set to exit as a legendary, if complicated, figure in NBA history, and quite possibly the most beloved Laker ever. An odd coda to his career is likely coming in July, when the Lakers will probably renounce his rights so they can remove his maximum-salary cap hold and pave the way for the acquisition of a player they surely hope is the next great Laker. In the meantime, teams across the league are preparing for December 15th, the date when most offseason signees become eligible to be traded. We can talk about all this and more in today’s chat.

 

Top 6 Most Important December Trades Since 2010

December 15th is the unofficial start of trade season in the NBA, and less than two weeks remain until that date, when most offseason signees become eligible for inclusion in trades. Some Decembers are more active than others, but several fairly significant transactions have taken place in recent seasons. We’ll rank the top six most important December trades of the last five years here:

1. December 14th, 2011

— The Clippers get Chris Paul and two second-round picks (one became Arturas Gudaitis, whose rights are held by the Kings, and the other was converted to cash, which went to the Nuggets).
— The Pelicans get Eric Gordon, Al-Farouq Aminu, Chris Kaman and a 2012 first-round pick (Austin Rivers).

  • No December move in the past five years has had the lasting impact that this one has. Paul transformed the Clippers, providing the proper complement to Blake Griffin. The Clippers never won 60% or more of their games in any season before this trade, which took place before the tip of the lockout-shortened 2011/12 campaign. They haven’t failed to win that many in any of the four seasons since. The Pelicans have only Gordon to show from the deal at this point, but it helped the franchise to reboot, win the lottery, and score Anthony Davis with the No. 1 overall pick in 2012.

2. December 9th, 2013

— The Kings get Rudy Gay, Aaron Gray and Quincy Acy.
— The Raptors get Greivis VasquezJohn SalmonsPatrick Patterson and Chuck Hayes.

  • Only one trade took place in December 2013, but it was a doozy, and a matter of addition by subtraction for the Raptors. Patterson is the lone player Toronto received that day who remains with the team, but offloading Gay, who clearly wasn’t a fit, allowed the Raptors to turn the reigns over to Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan, who’ve led the franchise to back-to-back playoff appearances. The Gay trade was to be the first move of a teardown north of the border, but instead it sparked a revival. That applied to Gay, too, and he delivered a career high 21.1 points per game last season for the Kings, who signed him to a three-year, $40MM extension in November 2014.

3. December 11th, 2011

— The Mavericks get Lamar Odom, a 2012 second-round pick (Darius Johnson-Odom) and the right to swap 2013 second-round picks with the Lakers (not exercised).
— The Lakers get a 2012 first-round pick (Mitch McGary).

  • The fortunes of both teams turned for the worse after this swap, which Mark Cuban called “by far the worst” personnel decision the Mavs have made in his tenure as owner, as Dwain Price of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram noted earlier this year (on Twitter). Dallas had won the championship just months before the move, but Odom never again played as well as he had for the Lakers, and the Mavs, who haven’t escaped the first round since, traded him to the Clippers in the summer of 2012. The Lakers used the trade exception they reaped from the deal to acquire Steve Nash, who never lived up to the contract or lofty expectations that accompanied him to L.A., and the franchise has been in a tailspin ever since. The Lakers traded away the pick that became McGary long before the Thunder used it on the former Michigan center.

4. December 18th, 2014

— The Mavericks get Rajon Rondo and Dwight Powell.
— The Celtics get Brandan Wright, Jameer Nelson, Jae Crowder, Dallas’ 2015 first-round pick if it falls anywhere from No. 4 to No. 14, and the move favorable of Dallas’ 2016 second-round pick and Memphis’ 2016 second-round pick.

  • Last year’s Rondo trade turned out to be another flop for Dallas, though not to the degree of the Odom deal. Wright and Nelson are long gone from Boston, but Crowder re-signed on a five-year deal, and the Celtics are likely to end up with that first-rounder after this season, as it’s now only top-seven protected. The threat of Rondo departing in free agency always loomed for Dallas, but few could have predicted that Powell, an early-season revelation, would be the most enduring figure from this trade for the Mavs.

5. December 18th, 2010

— The Magic get Gilbert Arenas.
— The Wizards get Rashard Lewis.

  • Washington moved on from the Agent Zero era amid a gun scandal, and the Magic gave up a key part of its 2009 Eastern Conference championship team. Neither player was ever quite the same after the move, but the Wizards have more successfully reinvented themselves since the deal, notwithstanding the early-season results this year. That’s in part because just months before trading Arenas, the Wizards used the No. 1 pick in the 2011 draft to select John Wall.

6. December 18th, 2010

— The Magic get Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu, Earl Clark.
— The Suns get Marcin Gortat, Vince Carter, Mickael Pietrus, cash and a 2011 first-round pick (Nikola Mirotic).

  • The best days of Richardson and Turkoglu were behind them, but the deal gave Gortat the chance to become a full-time starter for the first time. He proved worthy of the job, and the Wizards noticed, trading for him in 2013 and signing him to a five-year, $60MM contract the next summer. The Suns could still be reaping the benefits of the acquisition of the pick that became Mirotic had they not attached it to Goran Dragic in an ill-fated 2011 trade for Aaron Brooks.

Honorable mention: Corey Brewer was involved in two December trades, going from the Mavs to the Nuggets in 2011 and from the Timberwolves to the Rockets in 2014.

How would you rank these trades? Leave a comment to tell us.