Thunder Rumors

Atlantic Notes: Bynum, Knicks, Lin, Celtics, Green

The Dwight Howard/Andrew Bynum trade, like many of the offseason's marquee moves, has yet to pay dividends for any of the teams involved, writes Michael Lee of The Washington Post. Lee thinks the Lakers and Nuggets will turn around their slow starts this season, but he's less optimistic about the Sixers, whom he believes must give Bynum a hefty contract this summer, no matter when he comes back from injury, to justify their involvement in the trade. We've already heard conflicting views on what kind of deal Bynum can expect this summer, and as we wait to find out, there's more news on Philly's Atlantic Division rivals.

  • Presumably it's GM Glen Grunwald, if not owner James Dolan, calling the shots on Knicks personnel, but coach Mike Woodson said the decision to let Jeremy Lin go this summer was straightforward, as Newsday's Al Iannazzonne observes. "That’s a business decision," Woodson said. "I don’t think it was difficult. We just decided to go in a different direction, based on the guys I thought I liked in terms of Raymond (Felton), Jason (Kidd) and Pablo (Prigioni)."
  • Ian Begley of ESPNNewYork.com, who credits Dolan with making the call on Lin, says he's come around to the owner's side on this one after initially believing the Knicks should have kept Lin.
  • The Celtics signed Brian Cusworth toward the end of training camp and waived him shortly thereafter so their D-League affiliate could own their rights, reports Mark Deeks of ShamSports (Twitter link). We noted earlier today that the Timberwolves carried out the same sort of transactions with Demetris Nichols and Troy Hudson. Cusworth, a 7'0" center from Harvard, is on the roster of the Maine Red Claws for opening night tonight.
  • Jeff Green remains friends with Kevin Durant, but he has otherwise moved on from his Thunder days as he prepares to take on his old team tonight, he told reporters, including Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald
  • Offseason signee Mirza Teletovic, on the inactive list tonight, isn't seeing much of the court for the Nets, as Josh Newman of SNY.tv chronicles.

Western Notes: T-Wolves, Douglas-Roberts, Kings

After a Thanksgiving Thursday that didn't feature any NBA games, the season resumes in earnest tonight, with 12 games on the slate. Perhaps the most intriguing matchup of the evening involves the Lakers, still finding their rhythm under new coach Mike D'Antoni, traveling to Memphis to face the Grizzlies.

Yesterday, I suggested that the Grizzlies, Clippers, and Knicks have all shown signs of being ready to make the leap and become legit title contenders this season. The poll results are still very tight, but for now, the Clippers narrowly edge the Grizzlies as your choice for the club most ready to take that next step.

Here are a few of Friday's updates out of the Western Conference:

  • The Timberwolves signed Demetris Nichols and Troy Hudson late in October and quickly cut them, according to Mark Deeks of ShamSports (Twitter links). The purpose of the moves was to ensure that the T-Wolves' D-League squad could add Nichols and Hudson as "affiliate" players. Sure enough, both guys are currently on the Sioux Falls Skyforce roster.
  • Chris Douglas-Roberts was another player whose D-League affiliate rights were acquired by the Mavericks toward the end of the preseason. Douglas-Roberts, who is now a member of the Texas Legends, Dallas' affiliate, spoke to Eddie Sefko of the Dallas Morning News about the D-League experience: "Sometimes, the NBA isn’t just about basketball. It’s about business and it’s about being in the right place at the right time and the right system at the right time. I feel I’m an NBA player. So instead of going overseas and chasing the money, I’m going to be here for however long I’m here."
  • Kendrick Perkins still gets emotional when the Thunder head to Boston to play the Celtics, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe writes. "Going against guys that you played with for a long time, won rings, went through wars with, still brothers over there," Perkins said. "But at the end of the day, we're still trying to win games."
  • Jake Appleman of the New York Times examines the future of the Kings in Sacramento.

Thunder Assign Orton, Liggins To D-League

The Thunder have assigned a pair of players to their D-League affiliate, the team announced today in a press release. With the D-League regular season about to get underway, Daniel Orton and DeAndre Liggins will join the Tulsa 66ers.

Orton and Liggins both spent the 2011/12 season with the Magic. Orton, a first-round pick in 2010, didn't have his third-year option exercised by Orlando, while Liggins was an unrestricted free agent after his rookie season.

Oklahoma City added both players to its training camp roster, retaining Liggins for the regular season, but waiving Orton. Orton was re-signed by the team when a pair of roster spots opened up following the James Harden trade. So far this season, Liggins has seen limited minutes in four games, with Orton appearing in just one.

Odds & Ends: Grizzlies, Raptors, White, Thunder

Ryan Wolstat of the Toronto Sun proposes a trade that would send Zach Randolph and Tony Wroten to the Raptors for Andrea Bargnani, Aaron Gray and a second-round pick. Wolstat wonders if the new Grizzlies owners will try to shed salary before the season to avoid paying luxury tax. Memphis is about $4MM above the tax line (Twitter links). I'm skeptical about this one, since trading the team's best player wouldn't exactly make Robert Pera and company the most popular people in Memphis, especially considering the Grizzlies are off to a hot start. While we wait to find out whether any such deal materializes this season, here are a few notes from around the Association. 

  • High-level union officials are discussing whether they can make a credible case that the Rockets shouldn't be fining Royce White for his absences, but White's criticism of the team on Twitter makes the union's job more difficult, writes Ken Berger of CBSSports.com.
  • Kevin Martin isn't half the player James Harden is, opines Jarrod Rudolph of RealGM.com, who counts the deal as a mistake for the Thunder based on early results. (Twitter link).
  • Magic Johnson wanted Phil Jackson to coach the Lakers, and he lays the blame on executive vice president Jim Buss for what he believes is a mistake, as Ramona Shelburne of ESPNLosAngeles.com observes. "I love (owner) Dr. (Jerry) Buss," Johnson said on ESPN's NBA Countdown show. "I don't believe in Jim Buss."
  • Bill Dwyre of the Los Angeles Times, conversely, is confident the decision to hire Mike D'Antoni came from Jerry Buss. Dwyre concludes D'Antoni must have been the Lakers' No. 1 choice all along, speculating that the team didn't want to embarrass agent Warren LeGarie by making it look like they had D'Antoni, his client, already lined up to replace Mike Brown, also LeGarie's client, when Brown was fired.

Western Notes: Rockets, Lakers, Clippers, Harden

When Hoops Rumors unveiled its predictions for this season, all of us picked either the Lakers, Thunder or Spurs to come out of the Western Conference, and tonight two of those teams clash as the Spurs look to down the Lakers and run their early-season record to 2-0 against other Western contenders. The Spurs were a conference-best 6-1 coming into tonight, their only blemish a loss to the Clippers, who would love to leapfrog their L.A. rivals into the contending group. Here's the latest on the Tinseltown rivalry and other items out of the West.

  • Joseph Goodman of the Miami Herald lays the blame for Royce White's latest absence on Rockets executives, tweeting that the team is led by "a bush league front office without a soul."
  • The notion that Phil Jackson will wind up with the Clippers is a "conspiracy theory you can expect to now hear a zillion times this season," tweets Marc Stein of ESPN.com, though sources tell Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports that the rise of the Clippers played a role in the Lakers' decision to fire Mike Brown
  • Rockets owner Leslie Alexander hopes new star James Harden will attract others to Houston, writes Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle“I know it helps," Alexander said. "Even in the brief time I’ve been around him, he always talks, I just spoke to that guy, I just spoke to that guy. He speaks to a lot of major players in the league. It’s a big plus. How big, you really don’t know.”
  • Perry Jones III admits he isn't as comfortable now as he was in the preseason, but Thunder coach Scott Brooks isn't alarmed by the rookie's subpar performance in his limited regular season minutes, as The Oklahoman's Darnell Mayberry chronicles.
  • Mavs coach Rick Carlisle is "very pleased" with what he's seen out of recent signee Troy Murphy so far, observes Dwain Price of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

Odds & Ends: Odom, Duncan, Johnson, Blazers

The latest news and notes from around the NBA on Sunday evening:

  • Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times writes that the Clippers still aren't sure what contributions they can expect from Lamar Odom this season.
  • Tim Duncan is playing like an MVP candidate this season, says Dan McCarney of the San Antonio Express-News.
  • David D'Alessandro of the Newark Star-Ledges examines Nets guard Joe Johnson's slow start to the season.
  • The Trail Blazers have the least productive bench in the league so far, but Chris Haynes of CSNNW.comthinks the team should give their young reserves more playing time so they can develop and improve.
  • Marc Berman of the New York Post writes that the Knicks' J.R. Smith is an early candidate for Sixth Man of the Year.
  • Chris Forsberg of ESPNBoston.com has a new mailbag covering various Celtics topics.
  • Barry Tramel of the Oklahoman is impressed with new Thunder guard Kevin Martin.

Offseason In Review: Oklahoma City Thunder

Throughout the month of November, Hoops Rumors will look back at each team's offseason, from the end of the playoffs in June right up until opening night. Trades, free agent signings, draft picks, contract extensions, option decisions, camp invitees, and more will be covered, as we examine the moves each franchise made over the last several months.

Signings

Trades and Claims

Draft Picks

Camp Invitees

Departing Players

Rookie Contract Option Decisions

If you're wondering why we waited until the regular season was underway to begin our Offseason In Review series, let the Oklahoma City Thunder serve as Exhibit A. Had we recapped the Thunder's offseason even a week before opening night, we would've missed the move that easily overshadowed the rest of their summer transactions put together: the trade that sent James Harden to the Rockets.

For all of the talk and speculation about Harden vs. Serge Ibaka that preceded the team's decision, I didn't actually believe the Thunder would have to choose one or the other. It seemed more likely that Oklahoma City would lock up both players, perhaps to slight discounts, and find a way to make it work long-term financially. And it may have played out that way had Harden elected to accept the team's final extension offer, rumored to be worth about $54MM over four years. But when Harden didn't take that offer, the team didn't hesitate in flipping him to Houston.

And the more I look at the Thunder's options, the less I mind their decision to move Harden when they did. After all, here were a few of Oklahoma City's choices, if the club had determined the Sixth Man of the Year wasn't signing for less than the max:

  • Sign Harden to a max-salary extension and move forward with the current roster: This may have been the ideal choice for the players and management, but if ownership wasn't willing to foot the exorbitant tax bill it would've created, it wasn't really a viable option.
  • Sign Harden to a max-salary extension and amnesty Kendrick Perkins next summer to reduce the tax bill: The Thunder would still have been over the tax threshold, and would still be on the hook for Perkins' salary. The overall savings would've been minimal, and not having Perkins on the team would've hurt the frontcourt, especially against players like Dwight Howard.
  • Trade Harden at the deadline: If the team knew it had to deal Harden, making that move before the season started was the best time to do it. The Thunder might easily have lost leverage by February, and any players they acquired at that point would've had less time to adjust to the OKC system before the postseason rolled around.
  • Signed Harden to the max either last month or next summer and traded him before the end of the 2013/14 season: Was this a viable option? Sure. The Rockets or plenty of other teams would've been interested in acquiring Harden even if he was locked in at a maximum-salary price. But would it have helped the Thunder's tax problem? If Harden was earning a salary around $14MM in 2013/14, trading him would likely mean taking back nearly that much salary in return, which would still put Oklahoma City way over the tax line.

We don't know the ins and outs of the financial situation facing Thunder ownership, so we can't say definitively whether it was in the franchise's best interests to move Harden. But if we assume that paying Harden a maximum salary simply wasn't viable for the Thunder, GM Sam Presti chose the right time to strike. And it's hard to argue that Oklahoma City didn't get great value — Kevin Martin isn't Harden, but he's an excellent scorer to having come off the bench.

The real coup for the Thunder, however, involved all the future assets they landed in the deal. The way Oklahoma City originally built a championship contender was by drafting well and gathering assets, whether that meant draft picks or players on rookie deals. Having drafted Perry Jones III and acquired Jeremy Lamb to go along with multiple first-round picks, the Thunder are ensuring their success will be sustainable for years to come. With Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and Ibaka locked up, the Thunder can surround those stars with cheap, controllable players that will develop over the next several years.

The Thunder's 2012/13 title chances undoubtedly took a hit when they sent Harden to Houston. And for that reason, it's fair to say that the club took a step back with its offseason moves. But this team isn't the Knicks or Lakers, a veteran-heavy squad whose title window could be closing within a year or two. The Thunder still have two of the league's most dynamic scorers and one of the NBA's best interior defenders, all under the age of 25. Throw in rookies like Lamb and Jones, and the flexibility to add even more young prospects to the core over the next couple years, and this is a team that can contend for a championship for years to come, with or without Harden.

Wolves Rumors: Harden, Williams, Barea, Ridnour

Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities shares a number of interesting tidbits related to the Timberwolves in his latest Scoops piece, so let's dive right in and check out the highlights….

  • Wolfson hears from T-Wolves sources that Minnesota made a few calls on James Harden, and would have been willing to part with Derrick Williams, future first-round picks, and more. However, since the Thunder weren't all that interested in dealing within the division and had a strong offer from the Rockets, talks between the Wolves and OKC never got serious.
  • Williams, J.J. Barea, and Luke Ridnour are considered potential trade candidates, but the Wolves aren't engaged in any discussions now. Wolfson says that dialogue could pick up once the team has 15 games under its belt.
  • Owner Glen Taylor expects injured stars Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio to return in early December and mid-December, respectively.
  • Taylor also addressed the possibility of selling the franchise, telling Wolfson he may "get a deal within this year." However, Taylor added that he anticipates remaining with the organization for five or six years, slowly transitioning from majority to minority owner.
  • R.J. Adelman, Minnesota's director of personnel, likes Mickael Pietrus, but the veteran wing is still not open to signing for the minimum, which means he's out of the Wolves' price range.

New Faces: Lewis, Lin, Landry, Martin, Johnson

Between the Dwight Howard sweepstakes and the implementation of the new CBA, this offseason was one to rememeber.  While we are barely a week into the new season, it is only natural for glowing reports to emerge of players who have shined with their new teams.  They are premature for sure, but so many players changed teams that keeping tabs on them is always useful:

  • Now coming off the bench for the Heat, Rashard Lewis is healthy for the first time in two years, writes Chris Tomasson of Fox Sports.  Lewis was hampered by knee injuries the past few seasons, but has looked great so far in Miami, showing more lift in his jumpshot and even throwing down a few dunks last night against the Nets.  
  • Within the same piece, Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld looks at Jeremy Lin and Carl Landry.  While James Harden has deservedly gotten the Rockets headlines, Lin has quietly lived up to the hype during his brief time so far in Houston.  Meanwhile, Landry, a former Rocket, is proving once again that he is one of the NBA's most underrated players, this time averaging 17 points as a member of the Warriors.
  • The man traded for Harden, the Thunder's Kevin Martin, is shooting a ridiculous 62 percent from three point range and averaging over 19 PPG so far in Oklahoma City, writes Chris Sheridan.  While Harden is clearly the best piece moved in the deal, it isn't hard to imagine Martin's skills and those draft picks making it look respectable for Sam Presti and the Thunder.
  • Averging only 14 PPG, Joe Johnson is still getting acclimated to his new role on the Nets, writes Roderick Boone of Newsday.  The mixture in Brooklyn will probably take longer than most to jell, considering that not only is nearly the whole team new, but most of the high profile players have never played on anything close to an elite team before. 
  • Kosta Koufos hasn't been a member of the Jazz since 2010, but Bill Oram's story about the former Utah draft pick's rise into the Nuggets starting lineup sure makes it feel like it was yesterday.  After beating out JaVale McGee for the center spot, Koufos is averaging 6.6 points and 5.6 rebounds per game in Denver.
  • Shipped to Orlando after being drafted by Philly, Maurice Harkless played more than 22 minutes in his Magic debut on Wednesday, writes Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel.  Harkless didn't participate in preseason while he was recovering from a sports hernia, and still isn't 100 percent, but it sounds like the rookie is on his way. 

Western Notes: Blazers, Brown, Williams, Martin

The Western Conference got off to a bit of a slow start in inter-conference games this year, but Western teams turned that trend around last night. Of the six Wednesday night contests that pitted West vs. East, only the Sixers could earn a win for the Eastern Conference, beating the Hornets in New Orleans — the Suns, Mavericks, Timberwolves, Warriors, and Kings all defeated Eastern teams.

Here are a few of today's updates from around the Western Conference: