Hoops Rumors Originals

Community Shootaround: Sweetening The Deal

Though the Cavaliers haven’t confirmed it, a report tonight says they won’t approve the trade of Kyrie Irving to the Celtics unless Boston throws in at least one more asset.

The sticking point is the condition of Isaiah Thomas‘ hip, which Cleveland officials contend is worse than they expected after seeing the results of Friday’s physical. The Cavs are believed to want another player or an extra draft pick included to compensate them for the time Thomas might miss, while sources say the Celtics insist they were honest about Thomas in trade talks and will resist any effort to sweeten the deal.

At this stage, both teams have incentives to get the trade done. Cleveland has been getting positive reviews for the package it was able to get for Irving, who put the franchise in a difficult position by demanding a trade. The Cavs picked up Thomas, who has been an All-Star the past two seasons, along with Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and the Nets’ unprotected first-rounder for next year. If the deal is called off, Cleveland would have to resume efforts to trade Irving less than a month from camp and would be hard pressed to obtain four similar assets.

The Celtics may have burned their bridges with Thomas (as did some of their fans who set his jersey on fire on social media), who has been greatly underpaid for his production during his two and a half seasons in Boston. There’s no way to know how long Thomas might be sidelined, potentially leaving the Celtics shorthanded in the backcourt for an extended stretch. Plus, Thomas will be a free agent next summer and may see the collapsed deal as a sign that he’s not appreciated in Boston. Crowder would also be returning to an uncomfortable situation, although he’s under contract through 2019/20.

Considering both teams’ situations and their desire to be the top seed in the East, should the Celtics sweeten the trade if the Cavaliers demand it, and how much should they agree to? Please leave your responses in the space below. We look forward to what you have to say.

Hoops Rumors Originals: 8/19/17 – 8/26/17

Every week, the Hoops Rumors writing team compiles original content to complement our news feed. Enjoy our favorite segments and features from the past seven days:

2018 NBA Free Agents By Team

Hoops Rumors’ up-to-date list of 2018 free agents by team is below. These are players who are eligible for restricted or unrestricted free agency after the 2017/18 season.

Players with team or player options for the 2018/19 season are listed, unless they’re still on their rookie scale contracts. Players whose 2018/19 contracts aren’t fully guaranteed are also listed. Potential restricted free agents are marked with (RFA). Players who were waived by their NBA teams will not be listed here.

This list will continue to be updated throughout the 2018 offseason, so be sure to use it and our list of 2018 free agents by position/type as points of reference. Both lists can be found anytime under “Hoops Rumors Features” on the right-hand sidebar of our desktop site, or in the “Features” menu of our mobile site. If you have any corrections or omissions, please contact us.

Updated 10-15-18 (1:06pm CT)

Atlanta Hawks

  • None

Boston Celtics

  • None

Brooklyn Nets

  1. Quincy Acy

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Community Shootaround: Challenging The Warriors

Tuesday night’s blockbuster deal that sent Kyrie Irving to the Celtics would have been clearly the biggest news of many NBA offseasons. But it has a lot of competition this summer in a league where Jimmy Butler, Paul George and Chris Paul have all been traded since the playoffs ended.

Still, Tuesday’s trade affects the balance of power in the East, both for the 2017/18 season and for years to come. The Cavaliers added an extra defender in Jae Crowder, who can harass Kevin Durant and the Warriors’ other wings if we get another Cleveland-Golden State matchup in the Finals. In landing Irving along with Gordon Hayward, the Celtics probably made the best two offseason acquisitions in the East.

But does that mean the Warriors should be afraid of either team — or anyone else?

Golden State brought back virtually all the key components of its championship team and picked up promising rookie Jordan Bell in the draft. Stephen Curry agreed to a five-year extension. Kevin Durant inked a one-year deal with a player option, but that was only to lead to a long-term contract next summer. Klay Thompson is under contract for two more seasons, and Draymond Green is signed for the next three.

So in addition to a wealth of talent, the Warriors will have continuity in their corner.

A lot of teams got better this summer. The Thunder got a bargain price on George. The Timberwolves traded for Butler and signed Jeff Teague and Taj Gibson. The Rockets traded for Paul and may have Carmelo Anthony before the season starts.

So with training camps about a month away, we want to know who you believe will be the Warriors’ top challenger. Please leave your comments below.

Cap, Tax, FA Implications Of Celtics/Cavs Blockbuster

Mid-to-late August is typically a quiet period on the NBA’s offseason calendar, but Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge and new Cavaliers GM Koby Altman certainly weren’t on vacation this week, having reached an agreement today on a blockbuster deal that will send Kyrie Irving to Boston. In exchange for Irving, the Cavaliers will receive Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic, and the Nets’ 2018 first-round pick (unprotected).

Here’s a breakdown of some of the current and future salary cap and luxury tax implications of the swap between the Eastern Conference’s top two contenders:

How salary-matching works in the deal:Kyrie Irving vertical

According to Basketball Insiders, the salaries changing hands in the trade are as follows:

  • To Celtics: $18,868,626 (Irving)
  • To Cavaliers: $6,796,117 (Crowder); $6,261,395 (Thomas); $1,645,200 (Zizic)

In total then, the Celtics are sending out $14,702,712 and taking back $18,868,626. Since the Celtics are a non-taxpaying team, they’re allowed to take back their outgoing salary plus an extra $5MM in this deal. Simply sending Crowder and Thomas to Cleveland wouldn’t have been enough, since those two salaries only total $13,057,512, which doesn’t get them to within $5MM of Irving’s figure. Adding Zizic allows the C’s to surpass that threshold.

How the Cavaliers will use a traded player exception and create a new one:

Heading into Tuesday, the Cavaliers had three traded player exceptions at their disposal. Those three TPEs were worth $4,837,500, $2,194,500, and $980,431. Trade exceptions can’t be combined with one another, so Cleveland can’t use any of those TPEs to absorb Crowder or Thomas — both of their salaries are a little too big. However, the Cavs can – and likely will – use that $2,194,500 TPE to acquire Zizic.

Having applied an existing trade exception to Zizic, that means that the Cavaliers are sending out Irving’s $18,868,626 salary and taking back $13,057,512 in Crowder and Thomas. The difference between those totals is $5,811,114, which is the amount of the new traded player exception generated by Cleveland in the deal. The Cavs will have one year to use that TPE.

How Irving’s waived trade kicker affects the Celtics’ cap situation:

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Community Shootaround: Tampering Probe

The Lakers and team president Magic Johnson are under scrutiny as the league announced this weekend it was investigating potential tampering between the club and Paul George.

The Pacers, who dealt George to the Thunder this summer, filed the charges. The Lakers and Johnson now face a variety of potential punishments if the league finds evidence of impermissible contact and/or tampering.

George is a unique case in that he publicly stated his desire to sign with the Lakers when he becomes a free agent next summer. That prompted Indiana to shop the four-time All-Star, with the Thunder winning the sweepstakes by dealing away Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis.

As ESPN’s Bobby Marks points out, the Hawks and Kings were fined four years ago for outlining their plans to pursue free agents from other teams. But it’s been 17 years since the league cracked down hard on any team for tampering.

The Timberwolves were fined $3.5MM, lost five first-round picks (though two were later reinstated) and saw their owner and GM suspended. Those penalties were handed down when the league uncovered evidence that the club and forward Joe Smith had a side agreement for a future contract to circumvent the salary cap before Smith became a free agent. Smith wound up signing with the Pistons after Minnesota was prevented from securing his services.

A fine is the Lakers’ most likely penalty if some evidence of tampering is uncovered. However, if the league believes the Lakers and George already have a verbal agreement, they could face penalties similar to the ones doled out to the Timberwolves in 2000. It could also prevent George from joining the Lakers.

The Lakers have hired legal representation and seem confident they will be cleared of the charges.

That brings us to our question of the day: If the league’s tampering investigation involving the Lakers and Paul George uncovers evidence of a verbal agreement, should the Lakers be prohibited from signing George in free agency or acquiring him in a trade? If not, what would be an appropriate punishment?

Please take to the comments section to weigh in on this hot topic. We look forward to what you have to say.

Decisions On 2018/19 Rookie Scale Team Options

Under the NBA’s new Collective Bargaining Agreement, the deadline for teams to sign fourth-year players to rookie scale extensions has been moved up from October 31 to the last day before the regular season begins, but Halloween remains an important date on the NBA’s calendar. It’s the last day that clubs can exercise team options on the rookie scale contracts of former first-round picks.

All the players whose options will be exercised or declined by October 31 are already under contract for the 2017/18 season. Their teams will have to make a decision on whether they want to lock in those players’ contracts beyond the coming season, picking up or turning down team options for the 2018/19 campaign.

For players who signed their rookie scale contracts in 2015 and have been in the NBA for two years, teams must decide on fourth-year options for 2018/19. For players who just signed their rookie deals last year and only have one season of NBA experience under their belts, teams will already be faced with a decision on third-year options for ’18/19.

In many cases, these decisions aren’t hard ones. Rookie scale salaries are so affordable – particularly with the salary cap poised to surpass $100MM next summer – that it usually makes sense to exercise most of these team options, even if a player isn’t a key cog on the roster. And for those players who do have a significant role on a team’s roster, the decision is even easier — it’s not as if the Knicks would even consider declining their option on Kristaps Porzingis. In fact, they’ve already picked it up.

Still, we’ll wait for a trusted reporter, the NBA, a player (or his agent), or a team itself to confirm that an option is indeed being exercised or declined, and we’ll track that news in this space.

Listed below are all the rookie scale decisions for 2018/19 team options that clubs must make by October 31. This list will be updated throughout the rest of the offseason, as teams’ decisions are reported and announced. The salary figures listed here reflect the cap hits for each team — players’ actual salaries will be a little higher, since recent first-round picks received pay bumps as a result of the new CBA.

Here are the NBA’s rookie scale team option decisions for 2018/19 salaries:

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Weekly Mailbag: 8/14/17 – 8/20/17

We have an opportunity for you to hit us up with your questions in this, our weekly mailbag feature. Have a question regarding player movement, the salary cap or the NBA draft? Drop us a line at HoopsRumorsMailbag@Gmail.com.

Is it really true that LeBron James will leave the Cavaliers next season for the Lakers? — Greg Dizon

Nobody knows the answer for sure, except for maybe LeBron and a few members of his inner circle. What we do know is that these rumors started shortly after the NBA Finals, and James hasn’t made a public statement to quash them. We also know that James was a strong supporter of former GM David Griffin and was upset that he wasn’t retained. And we’ve seen reports that James was disappointed by the team’s offseason moves, which amounted to re-signing Kyle Korver and adding Derrick Rose, Jose Calderon and Cedi Osman. Add in any lingering bitterness toward owner Dan Gilbert from their parting in 2011 and the feeling that James accomplished his mission when he brought the 2016 championship to Cleveland, and it’s easy to see why he might be on the move again. It may depend on what the Cavs do this season, or it may be a decision that has already been made.

Aside from the Lakers, where else could you potentially see LeBron in 2018-2019 if he leaves the Cavs? — Vijay Cruz

It’s hard to find another scenario that seems plausible, unless LeBron and his banana boat friends are all plotting to end up in the same place. Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade will both be free agents next summer (and maybe earlier for Wade if a rumored buyout happens in Chicago), while Carmelo Anthony has an early termination option. If Anthony winds up in Houston with Paul, the Rockets could emerge as a possible contender. An online betting site has already posted odds about LeBron’s next decision, listing the Cavs as favorites to keep him, followed closely by the Lakers. The Rockets and Spurs are tied at fourth, with the Celtics a surprising choice at third.

What’s happening with Giannis Antetokounmpo and EuroBasket? Why do NBA teams let their players risk injury in these international tournaments? — Ellis K., via Twitter

Antetokounmpo announced Saturday on social media that a knee injury will keep him out of this year’s competition and cited a failed physical administered by team doctors from Milwaukee. The Greek basketball federation is disputing the results of the physical and accusing the Bucks of using deception to prevent Antetokounmpo from playing. Greece’s fortunes rely on Antetokounmpo, who would probably be the best player in the tournament, but because he’s under contract to the Bucks, there’s little the national team can do. As to why teams let players participate, there’s a lot of nationalistic pride at stake in these competitions, so it would create rifts with international players to try to block them. Plus, players tend to play all summer anyway, so it’s safer to have them do it in an organized format with trainers and team doctors than on pick-up courts.

Community Shootaround: Joakim Noah

There’s an argument to be made about Phil Jackson’s worst move as president of the Knicks, but any list would have to include the signing of Joakim Noah last summer for $72MM over four years.

Even Noah feels bad about it, blaming himself for Jackson’s firing. He virtually apologized in comments reported today by Marc Berman of The New York Post.

“It’s tough, man, because I got a lot of love and respect for Phil,’’ Noah said. “He gave me an opportunity to play back home. Somebody I read all his books as a kid. I was just a big fan and still am. I have a lot of respect for him. It didn’t work out. That sucks. It’s something I have to live with. He believed in me, and I kind of let him down. That’s frustrating. He got a lot of blame that it was his fault. But we didn’t lose all those games because of Phil Jackson.’’

Noah’s first season in New York was a disappointment, but it was hardly a surprise. He was plagued by injuries and declining production during his final two years in Chicago, so no one could be shocked that in his first year with the Knicks he got hurt and his numbers went down.

Physical problems limited him to just 46 games last year and he was almost shut down for the year after arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in February. He only returned late in the season to trim eight games off a 20-game suspension imposed for using a substance banned by the NBA.

Noah’s performance on the court was just as frustrating as the things that kept him off of it. His scoring average dipped to 5.0 points per game, the worst of his career except for a 29-game season in 2015/16, and he took a career-low 4.4 shots per game.

Noah still has three seasons and $55MM left on his contract, so the Knicks are going to be stuck with him as an anchor on their cap unless they can find a way to include him in a trade. It’s a move that’s going to haunt the franchise for a long time, and there weren’t any obvious suitors that Jackson was bidding against to force such a generous offer.

But is signing Noah the main reason Jackson got fired? Or was it his long public feud with Carmelo Anthony, his attempt to trade Kristaps Porzingis after he skipped an exit meeting, his unbridled love affair with the triangle offense or the Knicks’ lousy play in general? In short, does Noah owe Jackson an apology or would the Zen Master have gotten dismissed regardless?

Please leave your comments below. We look forward to what you have to say.

Hoops Rumors Originals: 8/12/17 – 8/19/17

Every week, the Hoops Rumors writing team compiles original content to complement our news feed. This week, we were particularly productive with our original content. Enjoy our favorite segments and features from the past seven days: