Hoops Rumors Originals

Hoops Rumors Originals 2/7/16-2/13/16

Here’s a look back at the original analysis generated by the Hoops Rumors staff this past week…

  • If you missed the week’s live chat, you can view the transcript here.
  • Zach Links highlighted some of the better basketball blogs around in his weekly installment of Hoops Links.
  • Chuck Myron examined Roy Hibbert as a trade candidate and Arthur Hill broke down Eric Gordon.
  • Will Joseph answered reader questions in our Weekly Mailbag.
  • Chuck broke down how much players have made on 10-day deals thus far this season.
  • We asked in a reader poll if the Kings should fire coach George Karl and the majority of you voted no.
  • If you missed any of our daily reader-driven discussions, be sure to check out the Community Shootaround archives.
  • Chuck examined the max contract scenarios for Kevin Durant.
  • Here’s how you can follow Hoops Rumors on social media and RSS feeds.
  • Chuck ran down the contract status of each 2016 NBA All-Star.
  • You can keep track of where your favorite team currently stands in relation to the 2016 NBA Draft lottery with our reverse standings tracker.
  • We reviewed our commenting policy. Play nice everyone.
  • Here’s how you can follow specific players on Hoops Rumors.

Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 2/12/16

It seems as though former Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau‘s name is brought up in connection with virtually every new head coaching slot that becomes available. All the interest and speculation surrounding him is a testament to how Thibs’ coaching abilities are respected around the league, and the smart money is certainly on him returning to NBA sidelines sooner rather than later. Some “cursory contact” has reportedly taken place between the Timberwolves and Thibodeau, according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN.com, though the talks were not classified as serious. Thibodeau has apparently long wanted the Knicks coaching job, and while that currently appears unlikely to occur, he’s reportedly of interest to the Lakers and Nets as well. It should be noted that Los Angeles still has Byron Scott calling the shots, but his job security appears dubious at best for 2016/17.

There’s no denying that Thibodeau is a solid coach, but his style and system do have their detractors. Thibs was knocked for focusing too much on defense while in Chicago at the expense of the Bulls’ offense. He also had a tendency to overuse his veteran players, which progressively wore them down over the course of long NBA campaigns. Also of concern, especially for teams with youthful rosters, is Thibodeau’s reputation of being extremely hard on his players, which doesn’t always play well with today’s crop of stars. This would be of great concern in a spot like Minnesota, where a young team needs a coach who will nurture and develop that talent and challenge the players to become better.

This brings me to the topic for today: Which team in need of a head coach (or rumored to soon be in need of one) would Tom Thibodeau fit best with?

Do you think Thibs would be a good fit with the Wolves’ young roster, or should he look for a team that has more of a veteran presence given his past resistance to playing younger players when veterans were available to take those minutes? If you don’t think the Knicks, Wolves, Nets or Lakers would be the right match, tell us what post would be the ideal fit for Thibodeau. Take to the comments section to share your opinions. We look forward to what you have to say.

Reader Power Rankings: Midseason Update

Prior to the start of the 2015/16 season, we at Hoops Rumors asked our readers to predict how each team would rank by regular season record in a series of polls. While these polls were not necessarily scientific, nor legally binding, with the All-Star break upon us we thought it would be amusing to see just how well our readers can predict the future. Listed below, in descending order, are the 2015/16 preseason power rankings along with each team’s record for comparison’s sake. Feel free to take to the comments section to brag about what you got right, as well as to own up to what you got wrong. Enjoy!

  1. Cavaliers: 38-14
  2. Warriors: 48-4
  3. Spurs: 45-8
  4. Thunder: 40-14
  5. Clippers: 35-18
  6. Rockets: 27-28
  7. Grizzlies: 31-22
  8. Bulls: 27-25
  9. Hawks: 31-24
  10. Wizards: 23-28
  11. Heat: 29-24
  12. Raptors: 35-17
  13. Pelicans: 20-33
  14. Bucks: 22-32
  15. Mavericks: 29-26
  16. Pacers: 28-25
  17. Celtics: 32-23
  18. Suns: 14-40
  19. Jazz: 26-26
  20. Hornets: 27-26
  21. Kings: 22-31
  22. Pistons: 28-25
  23. Magic: 23-29
  24. Trail Blazers: 27-27
  25. Timberwolves: 17-37
  26. Nets: 14-40
  27. Lakers: 11-44
  28. Nuggets: 22-32
  29. Knicks: 23-32
  30. 76ers: 8-45

Max Contract Scenarios For Kevin Durant

Kevin Durant today denied that he’s given thought to signing a two-year deal with a player option when he hits free agency this summer. It’s a contractual strategy that LeBron James has pursued the last two years to provide for the most flexibility and money possible, and given the rapid escalation in the salary cap that’s about to take place and Durant’s relative youth, it would be an even smarter idea for him than it would be for LeBron.

First, let’s look at what Durant would make if he signs a five-year, maximum-salary contract with the Thunder, based on the NBA’s maximum-salary projections:

  • 2016/17: $24,900,000
  • 2017/18: $26,767,500
  • 2018/19: $28,635,000
  • 2019/20: $30,502,500
  • 2020/21: $32,370,000
  • Total: $143,175,000

He’d see slightly less if he signed a max deal for as many years as he could with another team. Only the Thunder can give him a fifth year, and everyone else is limited to offering 4.5% raises instead of 7.5% raises. Again, the figures here rely on the league’s projection for next year’s maximum salaries.

  • 2016/17: $24,900,000
  • 2017/18: $26,020,500
  • 2018/19: $27,141,000
  • 2019/20: $28,261,500
  • Total: $106,323,000

Signing a two-year deal with a player option after the first season would take him down a more lucrative path, assuming the NBA and the players union don’t significantly alter maximum salaries or contract parameters when they negotiate the next collective bargaining agreement, which will likely kick in for the 2017/18 season. It’s a distinct possibility that they will indeed make changes, as Bobby Marks of The Vertical on Yahoo Sports notes (Twitter link). So, uncertainty exists, but the existing structure makes the short-term deal an intriguing option.

We haven’t seen maximum-salary projections for 2017 yet, but the salary cap is projected to hit a whopping $108MM that summer, a drastic escalation not just from the $70MM cap for this season but also from next season’s projected $89MM cap. The sizes of maximum salaries are tied, though indirectly, to the size of the cap, so using the $108MM projection, it’s possible to estimate how much Durant’s max will be.

The NBA has three different maximum-salary tiers. Players with six or fewer years of experience see a max of roughly 25% of the cap. Those with seven, eight or nine years of experience are eligible for approximately 30% of the cap. And veterans of 10 or more seasons can get as much as about 35% of the cap. Durant is in his ninth season, so he’ll fall into the 30% tier for his free agency this year. That’s reflected in the $24.9MM figure used in the scenarios above. He’d fall into the 35% category after one more season, taking his starting salary in a contract he’d sign in 2017 even higher. I estimated for an earlier piece that the 35% maximum salary for 2017/18 will be $35.603MM, based on the league’s projections and formula for determining max salaries, which Larry Coon explains at the bottom of question No. 16 in his Salary Cap FAQ.

So, with that number in mind, and assuming the next collective bargaining agreement doesn’t bring about drastic change, here’s what Durant could get if he signs a deal with the Thunder this summer that allows him to opt out next year and re-signs on a five-year max deal in 2017:

  • 2016/17: $24,900,000
  • 2017/18: $35,603,000
  • 2018/19: $38,273,225
  • 2019/20: $40,943,450
  • 2020/21: $43,613,675
  • 2021/22: $46,283,900
  • Total: $229,617,250

Durant wouldn’t have the advantage of signing a five-year deal with higher raises with a team other than the Thunder in 2017, even if he signs with that non-OKC team this summer. That’s because he’d need to have been with that team for at least three seasons to accrue full Bird rights. So, here’s what Durant would get if he signs a max deal in 2017 outside of Oklahoma City:

  • 2016/17: $24,900,000
  • 2017/18: $35,603,000
  • 2018/19: $37,205,135
  • 2019/20: $38,807,270
  • 2020/21: $40,409,405
  • Total: $176,924,810

That would give Durant close to $37MM more than he would make over the same five-year period if he simply re-signed for five years at the max with Oklahoma City, even though the Thunder can pay him more than anyone else on a long-term deal this summer. That’s why it would behoove Durant to at least consider the option of signing a short-term deal this year, even given the uncertainty of collective bargaining agreement negotiations ahead. For all we know, the environment for max players could be better under the next labor deal than it is under this one, and with LeBron and Chris Paul, both of whom are currently on max deals, playing prominent roles in the union, that’s certainly not out of question.

Deadline Deals Involving Recent Signees

Expiring contracts draw more talk this time of year, but while their value wanes in favor of long-term deals that give teams security as the salary cap rises, perhaps more attention should focus on trades involving players with freshly signed pacts. Ten of the 39 players under contract who were involved in deadline-day trades last year were in the first year of their respective deals. Chief among them was Isaiah Thomas, who went from the Suns to the Celtics in a swap that’s given Boston an All-Star under contract at less than $7MM a year through the 2017/18 season.

Such trades also illustrate how quickly the league’s perception of a player can change. The Heat signed Shawne Williams for the minimum salary before last season, and he wound up starting 22 games for them. Miami nonetheless shipped him to the Pelicans in the three-team Goran Dragic trade, one that also saw first-year player Zoran Dragic go to the Heat. New Orleans released Williams a few days after the trade, but the Pistons claimed him, played him fewer than 10 minutes per game and traded him in their offseason deal for Ersan Ilyasova. The Bucks waived him shortly thereafter, and he hasn’t been in the NBA since.

Here are each of the players who were in deadline-day trades last year after just having signed earlier in the season:

Note: Terms listed are those in effect at the time of the signing. Contract values are rounded to the nearest $1K.

The Basketball Insiders salary pages were used in the creation of this post.

Contract Status For Every 2016 NBA All-Star

Some of the All-Stars gathered in Toronto this weekend will be making news not for their on-court prowess but for their impending free agency. Eight of the 26 All-Stars, including injury replacements Pau Gasol and Al Horford, are either on expiring deals or have player options they’re likely to use to hit the market this year. One of those, Kobe Bryant, is headed into retirement, but Kevin Durant, LeBron James, DeMar DeRozan, Andre Drummond, Dwyane Wade, Gasol and Horford are all headed for new deals. Five more can hit free agency as soon as next year, including MVP Stephen Curry. However, the Warriors have fellow All-Star Draymond Green tied up until 2020, and the same is true for the Pelicans and Anthony Davis.

Here’s a look at the length of time that each All-Star is under contract:

Eastern Conference

  • Carmelo Anthony — signed through 2018/19, can opt out in 2018.
  • DeMar DeRozan — signed through 2016/17, can (and likely will) opt out this summer.
  • Andre Drummond — contract expires this summer.
  • Paul George — signed through 2018/19, can opt out in 2018.
  • LeBron James — signed through 2016/17, can (and likely will) opt out this summer.
  • Kyle Lowry — signed through 2017/18, can opt out in 2017.
  • Paul Millsap — signed through 2017/18, can opt out in 2017.
  • Isaiah Thomas — contract expires in 2018.
  • Dwyane Wade — contract expires this summer.
  • John Wall — contract expires in 2019.
  • Chris Bosh (injured) — contract expires in 2019.
  • Jimmy Butler (injured) — signed through 2019/20, can opt out in 2019.
  • Pau Gasol (injury replacement) — signed through 2016/17, can (and likely will) opt out this summer.
  • Al Horford (injury replacement) — contract expires this summer.

Western Conference

The Basketball Insiders salary pages were used in the creation of this post.

Hoops Rumors Community Shootaround 2/10/16

The Raptors are looking at power forwards in advance of the trade deadline, according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN.com, who relayed that Toronto has checked on the availability of Thaddeus Young, Kenneth Faried and Markieff Morris. The Raptors’ current salary structure would make it tough for the team to deal anyone from its existing roster, as Josh Lewenberg of TSN.ca pointed out, but the team has an extra first-round pick for each of the next two drafts, and GM Masai Ujiri has signaled that he wants to trade at least one of those picks at some point. Despite its apparent willingness to upgrade at the four spot, Toronto doesn’t have the cap room or trade exception to absorb either Young, Faried or Morris without relinquishing salary in return.

Toronto has started veteran Luis Scola at power forward in each of its first 51 contests, whose averages of 9.5 points and 5.3 rebounds aren’t anything to get excited about. Any of the three players mentioned above would provide a clear upgrade at the four spot for the Raptors, though acquiring any of them would likely leave a hole elsewhere on the roster thanks to the team’s need to send out salary in any transaction. But if Toronto is set on making a splash at this year’s trade deadline, nabbing either Faried, Morris or Young would certainly qualify as an impact move.

This brings me to the topic for today: If the Raptors make a move to acquire a power forward, who would be the best fit — Kenneth Faried, Markieff Morris or Thaddeus Young?

Take to the comments section below to share your opinions on the matter, including who and what it might take to land one of the three men mentioned above. We look forward to what you have to say.

Submit Your Questions For Hoops Rumors Mailbag

In addition to our regular weekly chat, which Chuck Myron facilitates every Wednesday, we have a second opportunity for you to hit us up with your questions in our weekly mailbag feature, which is posted every Sunday.

Have a question regarding player movement, free agent rumors, the salary cap, the NBA draft, or the top storylines of the week? You can e-mail them here: hoopsrumorsmailbag@gmail.com. Feel free to send emails throughout the week, but please be mindful that we may receive a sizable number of questions and might not get to all of them.

If you missed out on any past mailbags and would like to catch up, you can view the full archives here.

Hoops Rumors Chat Transcript

4:03pm: We hosted the weekly live chat.

3:00pm: One coach lost his job this week, and another almost did. The All-Star Game is four days away, and the trade deadline is just four days after that, with the Hawks leading the way as rumors ignite. Plus, a broken foot for Marc Gasol has cast the Grizzlies season into limbo, with major implications for the Western Conference playoff race. It gives us plenty to talk about in today’s chat.

How Much Players Have Earned On 10-Days

The cost of 10-day contracts is often overlooked. That’s in large measure because the financial outlay is so small compared to the multimillion-dollar salaries common in the NBA. Almost every 10-day deal is for the minimum salary, and they’re prorated down to 10/170ths of the full-season minimum. The most any player could make on a standard 10-day contract this season would be $88,187, and that’s only if the player is a veteran of 10 or more years. Players can sign as many as two 10-day contracts with a single team, and more if they end up with different teams, but while the money adds up, it doesn’t amount to much. The most any player has earned on 10-day contracts so far is the roughly $160K that Ryan Hollins has pulled down on two 10-day deals with Memphis.

Those contracts only cost the Grizzlies a total of $111,444, since the league reimburses teams for amounts that exceed the prorated two-year veteran’s minimum. Still, rookie and one-year vets are cheaper 10-day investments, and it’s no surprise that many of them are among the players who’ve received 10-day contracts so far this season.

One rookie, Jordan McRae, is on a 10-day deal that pays him an unusual amount. He’s making $37,065 instead of the standard $30,888 on the second of his two 10-day pacts with Phoenix because it’s actually a 12-day contract. All 10-day contracts have to cover at least three games, and the All-Star break necessitates a longer deal.

Here’s a look at what every player on a 10-day contract has earned this season: